Re: Imitations

2004-08-08 Thread Vance Wood
while another voice moves on. =20 Vance Wood. - Original Message -=20 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Imitations Thanks for your reply, Vance. For from thinking I am too ignorant to = cope with normal notation, my

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2004-08-08 Thread kaleido
Hi, I´ve read this as well as the ricercar thread, after a while abroad, and as I see it, lute tablature, notated in your own favourite way, (there are many...) is the most logical way to play a chordophone. What has not been mentioned is the need to keep the fingering as long as you possibly

Re: Imitations

2004-08-07 Thread Vance Wood
Hi Richard: Essentially that is true if not a bit broad brushed. With tablature you are given the exact intent of where particular notes are played etc. Without the staff notation or mensural notation your understanding of the music is based mostly on your ability put together the mechanics.

Re: Imitations

2004-08-07 Thread Vance Wood
and = uneducated musicians who are unable or too lazy to learn staff notation = or read regular music as we understand it today. Vance Wood. - Original Message -=20 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 8:13 AM Subject: Re: Imitations

Re: Imitations

2004-08-06 Thread Thomas Schall
Very well said! Best wishes Thomas Am Die, 2004-07-27 um 20.14 schrieb Denys Stephens: Dear Tom, The thing to do, as you have already noticed, is to use your ears - in learning a new piece you need to explore the way the voices work for you and bring it out in your performance. We don't

Re: Imitations

2004-08-04 Thread Vance Wood
Hi Richard: As you gain proficiency with sight reading tablature and become more acquainted with Milano's work you will start to recognize many of his tendencies. It is a good thing to understand the voicing in his work ,obviously, because that is what Milano is all about. There is another

RE: Imitations

2004-07-28 Thread Ed Durbrow
Hello, all! Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable edition = of his works? I have access to the Ness edition, but, given the numerous = page turns, I find it impossible to play from it. I have thought about = retyping every piece into Fronimo, but that would take a very

RE: Imitations

2004-07-28 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
-Original Message- From: LGS-Europe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Imitations Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable edition = of his works? The facsimile of many/most/all

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear Tom, The thing to do, as you have already noticed, is to use your ears - in learning a new piece you need to explore the way the voices work for you and bring it out in your performance. We don't have Francesco's works in mensural notation except in modern editions - which are an editor's

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread Ed Durbrow
RichardTomBeck wrote: I'm playing some pieces by Francesco da Milano, which are technically not too demanding. The problem I find is in recognising all the imitations in the various voices. In staff notation these would be obvious, but I find myself initially going plink-plonk-plonk-plink till my

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread arckon
Tom (et al)-- Ed's suggestion of following a voice as far as you can is a good one. For practice, get hold of someting simple like Valderrano's duos, where the two voices are quite apparent. To help keep those voices in mind as you play, you could try using different colored highlighters

RE: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread STEPHEN ARNDT
Hello, all! Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable edition = of his works? I have access to the Ness edition, but, given the numerous = page turns, I find it impossible to play from it. I have thought about = retyping every piece into Fronimo, but that would take a very

RE: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread lutesmith
Dear Stephen, I remember being driven to distraction by all those page turns too. That one and the CNRS N. Vallet (the facsimile has only a few page turns--hooray). Yes, the piano reduction is a help for some and often gives some good suggestions from the editor for voicing and those

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
Write it out in staff notation is an obvious answer. If not to play from, then at least to study the counterpoint from. It's a bother, but worth while the effort if you're confused. I often encounter places I'm not sure about, that have more than one solution or that I'd have never recognised just

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
Speaking of Francesco da Milano, does anyone know of a playable edition = of his works? The facsimile of many/most/all? of the books are available (I have some Minkoff and Arnaldo Forni here). David

Re: Imitations

2004-07-27 Thread Ed Durbrow
The pieces by FdM I'm playing are Fantasias 31, 32, 41, 81 and Ricercars 4,= =20 67. So those are Ness numbers? I just couldn't believe the music would actually be so barren and aimless,=20 but only after a while did it occur to me that there might be more to it tha= n=20 that. FdaM is one of