As a not-so newby, and a perfoming luteplayer, I'm not interested in a
modern version of a period instrument. I find I can hold my own in terms of
volume in any group, especially if the rest plays on period instruments like
I do. But even in a modern, and large!, orchestra I know what to do to
Carbonchi's 'Lo dodici chitarre spostate' from 1643 (Florence) comes to
mind. Imagine to strum a passacaglia with twelve guitars, all tuned one
semitone apart with 12 different alfabeto chords at the same time. Comes
close to 'garage revival rock'. But meantone? Best, L.
Although Colonna's 25
I think the ability to be heard in large ensembles, whether modern or
baroque lies in the style of playing and playing on a historically
plausible instrument (e.g. large instruments as suggested by our good
old Lynda Sayce). Having said that, Lynda is quite audible with her
1608
Dear Chris,
I think this lute dont look so good that I would buy it for a moment in
which your daughter can play it. For me it looks a litle bit heavy and also
the model I dont like for a 10-11 curse lute. Maybe you can see who made it.
There are lutes from germany around the year 1970 who are
ARIA is a Japanese firm founded in Nagoya by Shiro Araisic in 1956. They
make electric guitars, for the most part, and acoustic Dreadnoughts. No longer
make lutes. --ajn
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Dear all,
does anyone know what the ground for Francescos duet from the Castelfranco Ms
is? An original composition, a tenor or a chanson? (Sounds to me like the
latter...)
Regards,
Stephan
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There is one thing I think I know for sure it is not a Pakistani Lute. It
would be nice to know who the maker is, it looks to be a decent instrument.
Ten course? My father once made the statement that a thing is really only
worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. In todays market for
It is an opinion of a matematician-harpsichordist friend of mine: that he
did, unequivocally.
RT
Werckmeister never accurately described equal temperament. Neidhart's
temperament was actually a whole set of temperaments, having in common
that
they were more consonant in the more frequently
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Date: Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:25 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Can anyone provide some insight into this instrument for me?
Thanks to the kind folks who have responded so far. I have a bit
more
information: the lute has the
Dear Rob,
If you are new to the list you will have missed an
interesting discussion on soundboard thicknesses
on the list a few months ago - you should be able
to find it in the archives. I feel that heretical thinking
is a good thing! It keeps us thinking and challenging
received opinions, which
Hello luters,
Just out of curiosity: how many of you, if any, play the lute with
nails? I've been looking online at the various old paintings of
lutenists, and I can't see that any of them had long nails; but on
the other hand, one occasionally hears of people that do play with
nails.
On Mar 26, 2006, at 6:00 AM, Rob Dorsey wrote:
it's darned hard to hear a lute, even a 140 theorbo, and you tend
to form a habit
of really bearing down to match the sound of the ensemble with the
attendant
loss of tone.
I agree. I think the biggest mystery of the lute is the stringing.
I used to play with the nails many years ago. I got a pretty good sound as
well but I didn't then realize that I was only playing one string in the
pair that makes up a course. Once I learned to play with the finger tips
and to strike both strings in a course I noticed the difference in the
Beste Teun
Take your lutes to someone who can tell you a bit more. Where do you live?
If you go to Sebastian Nunez in Utrecht he will not only give you good
advice, but strings as well.
David
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Really? That isn't a typo? That is little more than an inch at the nut.
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The distance between the lowest and
highest strings is 2.6 cm at the nut and 6.8 cm at the bridge.
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
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On Mar 26, 2006, at 5:13 AM, bill kilpatrick wrote:
here's a lovely detail of some plectrum picking on a
5c. lute:
http://schulze-kurz.mine.nu/Seite_Ekkehard/Instrumente_Galerie/
Laute/lauteMA3.jpg
taken from an interesting collection of chordaphone
illustrations here:
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Jean-Philippe Rameau was the first writer to
describe ET, in his Traite de l'harmonie, published in Paris in 1754,
so after Bach's death.
On Mar 26, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Ed Durbrow wrote:
...It
could be continuo and solo instruments were set up differently and
not expected to do double duty. Could be we just don't know enough
about stringing. Maybe they didn't mind a bray sound. Many
mysteries with the lute.
I've wondered about
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Are we seeing a quill plectrum protruding from
between the second joint
of the first and second fingers? And what is the
third finger doing? The
left hand is fretting notes both where the quill
would strike the
strings and several courses
the March 26 show
listen here:
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(I tried to crosspost this, but it didn't come through...)
I'd like to take the opportunity to once again point out Bradley Lehman's
Bach-tuning,
which can be studied at http://www.larips.com
According to his argumentation, equal could well have meant to be
_equal-sounding_
in several
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the March 26 show
listen here:
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Hi,
thanks for the link, I found the text on the page about the show, full of the
ignorance one
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haven't seen very many current photos of lutenists with their right
hands held in that position shown in the paintings.
Like David, I am curious to hear an explanation of the close hand.
Paul Pleijsier
Hoi Paul
Talk to Toyohiko, he is doing that these days. Gradually, to be fair, but
step
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This is what my playing sounds like w/ nails.
Sean
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This is what my playing sounds like w/ nails.
On carbon, that is.
David
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David et al,
Its funny that you should mention the old
paintings to support a no-nails approach. I've often
looked at the (in reference to what I've been taught
today) seemingly awkward right hand positions of
lutenists in many old paintings and wondered how the
players could _not_ have
Body frets ARE historical feature on baroque lutes.
RT
Seems to be accurate enough.
No temperament is accurate with lutes, once left hand starts fretting,
and
even more so higher up the neck, especially with such high action as,
say,
But that's the whole point of movable frets. You can
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I don't think you can mail attachments to the list.
Do you have a link through which we can view it?
Chris
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Dear Rob,
My apologies - I misunderstood what you were
saying - you want to improve on historical lute
building practice. It seems likely that instrument
makers in the past had the same goal, so why not?
I wish you well with it, and hope you will let us know
how your work develops.
Best wishes,
David,
I play all of my instruments with some degree of nail, but I change the
angle of my wrist and the angle of the finger stroke for each
instrument. It's not so hard to do once you get used to it.
But, when playing fast 16th century division music I play with no
thumbnail (which I usually
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For me - playing without nails is like tap dancing barefoot.
Joseph Mayes
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That's the way the Lute is supposed to sound, more of a soft shoe.
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For me - playing
Richard,
Thanks for all the information you sent!
David R
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David,
As the other David pointed to you, Toyohiko Satoh has been playing the past
few years with a technique that represents what the paintings demonstrate,
which is the right hand almost on the bridge, with the right hand
perpendicular to the bridge. He will be performing in this manner in
Is tap dancing your ideal sound???
RT
For me - playing without nails is like tap dancing barefoot.
Joseph Mayes
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This is what my playing sounds like w/ nails.
On
Anyone see the Simpsons tonight? The British boy
played lute for the Simpsons before his Mandarin
Chinese lesson.
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I missed that bit, darn it. But playing lute seems to be an occasional running
joke on the Simpsons. Martin, the gifted kid, played lute in a school talent
show in a previous episode.
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Anyone see the Simpsons tonight? The British boy
played lute for
Lots of lutes at the climax of Shrek, as all the characters sing 'I'm a
believer', the Monkeys hit.
Rob
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hi all,
i found my solution:
using audacity thanks to thomas for this information!
and a dynamic microfon from the 70th: telefunken TD 26, which works well for my
needs.
the little holder fits perfectly in distance and angle to my music stand.
thanks to my mother. she bring it back to light
You are a lute freak! ;-)
Rob
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Oh yes! Everybody told me that - seems
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