[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?

2011-07-11 Thread Markus Lutz
Dear Grzegorz, it might be possible, that there are other portraits/engravings of Weiss, but we don't know. Hoffmann wrote about the engraving of Weiss, that was published as frontispiz in the Bibliothek ... and he writes about an engraving by Folin on a portrait of Denner. As the engraving by

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?

2011-07-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Good point Rob, but, if we're thinking of one of the pictures, I recall it seems to show a large lute with a single neck. Whilst this could, of course, be the engraver's own fancy it might suggest the performer is playing a gallichon (large continuo type)..

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?

2011-07-11 Thread Rob MacKillop
Interesting point, Martyn. I don't have the picture to hand. How many strings or tuning pegs are shown? I still think the four-string gallichon of circa 90cms length would make a great baroque bass instrument. It's not an instrument I've ever seen associated with Weiss, but that

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Odp: Re: another portrait of S.L. Weiss?

2011-07-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
If my memory isn't playing me false and the instrument is a single neck it might indeed rule out Weiss since, as you suggest, there's no record of him being associated with the gallichon/mandora. It'll take me time to dig out the pic which is buried somewhere in what passes for my

[LUTE] Vihuela

2011-07-11 Thread Valery Sauvage
Oskar de Mari-Jones, on Youtube, post two new videos of vihuela : [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydwo9tHP8DM [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCDmyu13xvU Enjoy ! Val -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydwo9tHP8DM 2.

[LUTE] Re: Bachelar still known in 1690

2011-07-11 Thread adS
On 09.07.2011 19:33, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Historische Beschreibung der Edelen Sing- und Klingkunst ... by Wofgang CasparPrintz. which you can find here: http://diglib.hab.de/drucke/xb-1894/start.htm Excellent. See page 135 (picture 157). Rainer To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Bachelar still known in 1690

2011-07-11 Thread adS
On 11.07.2011 19:53, adS wrote: On 09.07.2011 19:33, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Historische Beschreibung der Edelen Sing- und Klingkunst ... by Wofgang CasparPrintz. which you can find here: http://diglib.hab.de/drucke/xb-1894/start.htm Excellent. See page 135 (picture 157). Rainer

[LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'

2011-07-11 Thread tom
Playing in churches or stone-built castles is fine, and I can see why people like the reverberative acoustics. Lots of different kinds of music sound very good in these spaces. BUT - are we talking about HIP Renaissance lute, Baroque lute, or Medeival music? Stone-built castles were

[LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'

2011-07-11 Thread Edward Mast
Good points, Tom. I recently listened to (on FM radio) a Spanish lute piece played by Hopkinson Smith. Had I not been familiar with the instrument, I would have guessed that it was about the size of a grand piano. I can understand recording engineers wanting to 'enhance' a sound that to

[LUTE] Re: Bachelar still known in 1690

2011-07-11 Thread magnus andersson
Thanks Rainer. Would anyone like to post a translation of the following paragraphs 20 and 21 which talk about the unknown inventor of the theorbo, and about Kapsberger? Best wishes, Magnus --- On Mon, 7/11/11, adS rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de wrote: From: adS rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de

[LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'

2011-07-11 Thread G. Crona
Hi people This whole discussion begins to approach the (almost ZEN) question of: What is the pure lute sound? And: What did the lute sound like yesteryear? As for myself, I have to say that I admire the quest for finding the perfect lute sound of the ancients. Those persuing it today are

[LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'

2011-07-11 Thread tom
A piece may sound wonderful (and touch the listener) on any instrument or in any combination of instruments. But, there must also be a reason to why f.ex. guitarists wish to alter the sound of their playing so much with all kinds of wave manipulation and distortion. (There must be 1001 or