Aurthur--
Thanks for that info. I had seen the harpsichord version on Scribd, but
no lute version there. O'dette's version is for 6 course lute and seems
wonderfully complicated so I am hoping someone has it.
Sterling
Hello Sterling,
The harpsichord version is readily available as No. 103 in Apel and Davison,
_**Historical Anthology of Music**_
(the famous "HAM" to countless generations of music history students). Widely
available in most libraries.
Also see John Ward's article "The 'Dolfull Domps'" in
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See if these work for you.
Michael
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Director, Lute Rental Program
Member, Board of Directors
www.lutesocietyofamerica.org
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:05 PM, sterling price <
Hi all--
I am looking for My Lady Careys Dompe as played by Paul O'Dette on the
Royal Lewters cd. Gathering from the liner notes I think it is Paul's
arrangement of the harpsichord version. Any ideas?
Thanks--
Sterling
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Dear Rainer,
you're right: I didn't notice the dots.
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: an impossible ornament
Datum: 2017-02-21T17:27:22+0100
Von: "Rainer"
An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu"
On 21.02.2017 16:28,
Dear Rainer,
OK I'm a fan of Occam's razor too. But we can't do experiments on the
past, the only evidence we have is what we have, and that is deeply
unsatisfactory, I agree.
So according to the evidence, Vallet didn't notate vibrato before 1620
because he didn't use it, then suddenly he
Dear Martin,
???
So you say,
there is an undocumented and invisible ornament that cancels the meaning of the hold
"slur" and indicates vibrato?
As evidence you offer a book published 5 years later and books by others -
published later.
I would propose to apply Ockhams razor: this
Dear Rainer,
Bar 7 is unplayable on a lute of any size if you try to hold all the
notes. In fact I think it's likely that he intends a vibrato on the
first note of the bar. There are no signs for vibrato in this book, but
there are in the 1620 book (Regia Pietas), and the vibrato sign
On 21.02.2017 16:28, jo.lued...@t-online.de wrote:
Dear Rainer,
agreed, when we take the pinky for the fifth finger, but where's the problem
(unless one trie to play this on a 67 cm scale)?
Addendum: Bar 7 IS unplayable on a 67cm lute - at least for my hands.
Why doesn't he use the 7th
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On 21.02.2017 16:28, jo.lued...@t-online.de wrote:
Dear Rainer,
agreed, when we take the pinky for the fifth finger, but where's the problem
(unless one trie to play this on a 67 cm scale)?
The d on the 1st course
Dear Rainer,
agreed, when we take the pinky for the fifth finger, but where's the problem
(unless one trie to play this on a 67 cm scale)?
Joachim
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Betreff: [LUTE] an impossible ornament
Datum: 2017-02-21T16:06:35+0100
Von: "Rainer"
An:
This ornament has to be played with the fifth finger:
Vallet 1615, CNRS No. 65, page 161
or
original source page 75
Bar 3.
Good luck :)
Rainer
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As I commented in my previous post, I don't consider this as an issue at
all. Indeed it was also common practice in many French baroque
tablatures to use lines to indicate the duration of open bass strings. I
see them serving as a visual guide and a reminder to the player.
Best,
Matthew
On
As I already said, sometimes Vallet uses hold lines on empty strings.
Here is an example: In "La Courante Sarabande" (CNRS No. 74, page 177 or
original source page 83) in bar 21 (first bar in 3rd stave in the original) there is a
hold line starting on the open 6th course.
I think it should
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