[LUTE] fonts and replies

[wayne lute]

Hi Martyn

 The lute list converts all text to plain text.  No fonts, no font sizes, no 
colors, and some non-North-American letters get garbled.  This is done while 
removing any possible viruses from the message.  It is also because in the past 
HTML  formatted messages confused many people.

 If you want to keep your message clear I recommend that firstly you delete any 
text that isn’t relevant.  This is important as otherwise a person can get 
confused  reading the message with replies.  Many people are too lazy to clean 
up their messages.  Secondly I recommend that you separate thoughts and 
paragraphs with a blank line.  The blank lines between paragraphs will stay 
with most mail readers.

 When you reply to a message, that message has been formatted by the list 
robot, by the original senders email program, and by your program.  As your 
conversation goes back and forth  these three processes interact in strange 
ways and add more and more layers to the message.  So it really helps if you 
take the time to clean up the formatting and delete unnecessary text each time 
you reply.  I know this interferes with the feeling of being in the moment 
which is so important to computer gamers, but it makes the results a lot more 
readable.

 Wayne




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[LUTE] no attachments on the lute list

[wayne lute]

A brief translation of the previous message . . .

Hi Sarge - this list does not accept attachments.

   Wayne



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[LUTE] Re: Arcadelt

[wayne lute]

Hi Sarge - this list does not 
accept attachments.WayneBegin forwarded 
message:From: "Frank A. Gerbode, M.D." mailto:sa...@gerbode.net; class="">sa...@gerbode.netSubject: [LUTE] Re: ArcadeltDate: 
November 6, 2019 at 1:54:35 PM ESTTo: !
 mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; class="">lute@cs.dartmouth.eduHmmm. Looks like 
the attachments didn't go through. Does this list not accept 
attachments?In any case, the files will be accessible 
for a short time at http://gerbode.net/ftp; 
class="">http://gerbode.net/ftp--SargeOn 11/6/2019 10:44, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. wrote:--D41830CF615DFBC1BEDBF55AContent-Type: 
text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowedContent-Transfer-Encoding: 
8bitHere is a literal intabulation I made of the 
3-part chanson, transposeda fourth down. It/is/ a bit thin, but 
could be beefed up a bit and a fewornaments or divisions added.--!
 SargeOn 11/6/2019 06:53, Rainer wrote:Should be "nous voyons que les 
hommes".According to Brown there are two 
intabulations for guitar - a bit thinfor the lute.RainerAm 05.11.2019 um 23:42 schrieb mailto:theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu; 
class="">theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu:ÂÂÂ Lutetopia:ÂÂÂ Does anyone know if there is an in tabulation 
of the ArcadeltchansonÂÂÂ "nous 
voyons ques les hommes"? (It is a charming little tune).ThanksÂÂÂ trjÂÂÂ --To 
get on or off this list see list information athttp://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html; class="!
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class="">sa...@gerbode.net)11132 Dell AveForestville, CA 95436-9491Home phone: 
707-820-1759Website: http://www.gerbode.net; 
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territory, but it's all we've got."--D41830CF615DFBC1BEDBF55AContent-Type: 
text/html; charset=utf-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bithtml head meta http-equiv="Content-Type" 
content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" 
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cite="mid:mailto:10-08115d63-65e6-e915-81f9-1df237555...@t-online.de; 
class="">10-08115d63-65e6-e915-81f9-1df237555...@t-online.de"Should be "nous voyons que les 
hommes". br !
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thin for the lute. 
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class="">theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu/a: 
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tune). Thanks 
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[LUTE] stolen theorbo

[wayne lute]

A Matthew Durvie theorbo was stolen from Dr. Gregory Hamilton  oct. 8th in 
Irving Texas.  you can contact him at 8325450900

  Wayne


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[LUTE] Re: The Lord my careful Shepherd is

[wayne lute]

> 
> I lack Rainer’s gift for detail, but I am intrigued at the thought that a 
> collection of music from around 1600 may still have been in use 80 or 90 
> years later, or that someone 80 or 90 years later was in desperate need of 
> scratch paper to write down Psalm 23.
> 

Back then all paper was as expensive and as durable as artist’s hand made 
watercolor paper is today.

 Wayne




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[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

[wayne lute]

the 1991 LSA quarterly issue 2 has an interview with Julian Bream, where he
exposes all his secrets!

 Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Franz Mechsner" 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute
> Date: June 18, 2019 at 7:13:58 PM EDT
> To: "Dan Winheld" 
> Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>
>   Dear Dan,
>
>   Julian Bream actually pioneered lute playing very early. Watch
>   this beautiful movie on him that makes me smile (lute things come
>   somewhere in the
>   middle): [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
>
>   Warm regards and best
>   Franz
>
>   Dr. Franz Mechsner
>   Zum Kirschberg 40
>   D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
>   +49(0)33841 441362
>   franz.mechs...@gmx.de
>
>
>   Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 um 01:07 Uhr
>   Von: "Dan Winheld" 
>   An: "Franz Mechsner" , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Julian Bream on Lute
>   Nope. Never heard of him.
>   On 6/18/2019 3:49 PM, Franz Mechsner wrote:
>> Dear collective wisdom,
>>
>> I just heard some pieces played by admired guitarist Julian Bram on
>   the
>> lute. It seems to me he played kind of classical guitar style on the
>> lute. Strange, but It sounds wonderful to me, not only bold for the
>> time. Does anyone understand how he played the (maybe special) lute
>   and
>> produced the wonderful sound on a lute admittedly built for him?
>>
>> Best and curious
>> Franz
>>
>> Dr. Franz Mechsner
>> Zum Kirschberg 40
>> D-14806 Belzig OT Borne
>> +49(0)33841 441362
>> franz.mechs...@gmx.de
>>
>>
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>
> References
>
>   1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUdunh_wMCI
>   2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html


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[LUTE] TAB for windows 64 bit

[wayne lute]

I have a 32 bit version of the tab executable at 
https://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/wtab/ 
 as well as a 64 bit version.  Just 
in case you worry about pointer to int conversion.

  Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Rainer 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: TAB for windows 64 bit
> Date: April 14, 2019 at 3:07:44 AM EDT
> To: lute net 
> 
> I create a  new 32-bit executable for Windows from time to time - from an new 
> source version released by Wayne.
> Anybody who wants to receive these new versions please let me know.
> 
> I also have a manual based on Leonard's manual.
> 
> 
> I don't think creating a 64 bit version makes sense. Nobody needs to create 
> tab files with several Giga bytes :)
> 
> Rainer
> 
> On 09.04.2019 12:48, Wayne wrote:
>> Hi lute people -
>> I have compiled a windows 64 version of my tab program, and put it at
>>   https://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/wtab/
>> This is a very “raw” distribution and is only for people who are very 
>> comfortable
>> with command prompt and already are familiar with using my tab program.  
>> There
>> are some tips at
>>   https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/tab-with-vs.html
>> but I won’t be able to give people a lot of help.
>>Wayne
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[LUTE] Tip - Lute Scribe character / font question

[wayne lute]

Hi Lute People and Jurgen -

  Looks like you don’t know that the lute list does not like pictures, which 
in this case is a shame. 
Perhaps you could post them on a web site or google documents.  They show 
characters, 
especially the letter e, in lute-scribe input format and as  output by my 
“tab” programt.  Jurgen says . . .

Hello there,
I am asking about the "e" in lute scribe - in the editor the character appears 
as a "normal" minuscule e whereas in print the character has changed to a 
tilted small capital "E" as documented in the attached screenshots - actually I 
very much like that capital E but I cannot find it in the font. How does this 
miracle happen?

Thanks for a hint,
Jurgen

you can email Jurgen at eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com 
  and you can read about my tab 
program at https://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/AboutTab.html

Wayne

  
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Jurgen Frenz 
> Subject: [LUTE] Lute Scribe character / font question
> Date: March 4, 2019 at 9:14:51 PM EST
> To: Lute List 
> Reply-To: Jurgen Frenz 
> 
> ogѕхэ7uЗ§oMЙoVкуmКпо_зЎЕзpЈžзЇЕ<ЉzзБЗњej)м
> Њьz
> 
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[LUTE] Re: tab program

[wayne lute]

you would type 

{ Bourr\'ee }

with the warning that some modern text editing programs change the characters 
around.  the single quote, for example, may be rewritten as a special character 
which is half of a pair of balanced quotes.  Mac TextEdit does this, and you 
have to turn off smart editing.  I use a programmers editor like vim or emacs 
that doesn’t make the switch.

 Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Alain Veylit 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: tab program
> Date: July 26, 2018 at 2:40:11 PM EDT
> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> 
> A quick question about Wayne's tab program: how do I get the French accents 
> (e acute, e grave) to display correctly in the titles? I am getting slashed 
> Os instead of 'é' (e acute) for example, and a slashed L for 'è'. The c 
> cedilla however is fine, and u umlaut ...
> 
> Example: { Bourrée }
> 
> Also: if I have two pieces in a single tab file, can I get extra vertical 
> spacing between the two pieces?
> 
> Alain
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] check your email addresses

[wayne lute]

Hello Lute List People -

 Occasionally I check the spam traps for the lute list and I see messages from 
people who are really members of the lute list.  These people have one email 
address on the robot’s list, but send their message from another address.  It 
could be because they moved, or got a new service, or it could be because their 
provider changed their address.  The robot does not recognize the new address 
and so blocks the message.  If you post something to the lute list and it 
doesn’t get through, check to see if the address you are sending is the same 
as the one that messages addressed to you use.

  Wayne


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[LUTE] London Weiss manuscript is online

[wayne lute]

If you download a whole single page you don’t get the don’t ge the same 
amazing resolution!  

   Wayne

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Markus Lutz 
> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] London Weiss manuscript is online
> Date: June 20, 2018 at 5:48:46 AM EDT
> To: Barocklautenliste 
> 
> Dear members of the baroque lute list,
> Tim Crawford has written, that now the London Weiss manuscript is online. It 
> can be viewed and also be downloaded via the following link:
> http://access.bl.uk/item/viewer/ark:/81055/vdc_100059002407.0x01
> 
> It seems as if only downloading single jpgs works (at least for me).
> It is a very good scan, although the given resolution isn't that detailed.
> But you can look online into the pages in a very high resolution!
> 
> Best regards
> Markus
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Markus Lutz
> Schulstraße 11
> 
> 88422 Bad Buchau
> 
> Tel  0 75 82 / 92 62 89
> Fax  0 75 82 / 92 62 90
> Mail mar...@gmlutz.de
> 
> 
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[LUTE] The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

[wayne lute]

You may be right, but I can always claim that my computer was hacked.

  Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Rainer <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's 
> book about tuning
> Date: May 13, 2018 at 1:34:33 PM EDT
> To: wayne lute <wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> 
> Wayne, this may be slightly illegal :)
> 
> Rainer
> 
> On 13.05.2018 19:26, wayne lute wrote:
>> Hi Lute people  -
>>   Martyn sent me a copy of Annette Otterstedt’s review of David Dolata's 
>> book about tuning and it is avilable on my web site
>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Otterstedt.pdf 
>> <http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Otterstedt.pdf>
>>   Wayne
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[LUTE] The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

[wayne lute]

Hi Lute people  -

  Martyn sent me a copy of Annette Otterstedt’s review of David Dolata's book 
about tuning and it is avilable on my web site

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Otterstedt.pdf 


  Wayne


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[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets

[wayne lute]

Hi Martyn -

  That is a bogus address.  Because anti-spam measures are really fierce these 
days
I have to send out many messages with a fake “From: “ address.  The real 
address is
in the “Reply=To:” filed which you may not see in your mail reader without 
asking
for all the headers.  Anthony’s real address is agno3ph...@yahoo.com 


  Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Martyn Hodgson 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets
> Date: March 12, 2018 at 7:17:36 AM EDT
> To: Anthony Hind , John Lenti 
> 
> Cc: Lutelist Net 
> Reply-To: Martyn Hodgson 
> 
>   Dear Anthony,
>   Your email address agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu bounces back (it didn't
>   use to)! Have you another for a personal communication?
>   Martyn
> __
> 
>   From: Anthony Hind 
>   To: John Lenti 
>   Cc: Lutelist Net 
>   Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018, 10:15
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re : Re: Loose frets
> A very good tip, John, as is the idea of pre-wetting the fret
>   material.
> I wish I had thought of that these last few years, suffering from
> severely slipping frets in similar changing conditions. However, as I
> had resorted to a nylgut chanterelle, which quickly frays gut frets,
>   I
> decided to try Mimmo's new synthetic fret material. This has only
>   been
> on my lute for a few weeks, so I can't report on durability; however,
>   I
> can say that, as expected, this material is not effected by humidity,
> but also less expectedly, it seems slightly softer than modern gut
> (therefore, presumably not from Nylgut, as has been suggested). This
> would have the advantage of not damaging gut strings, as reportedly
> nylgut frets would do; but the possible disadvantage of making
>   stopped
> strings sound very slightly softer (but less so, I would judge, than
> the much softer sounding double gut frets, with which I do have
> experience, and appreciated for their greater durability). In spite
>   of
> their slippery surface, with the knot advised for them by Mimmo, they
> do seem to slip far less than gut frets.
> Regards
> Anthony
> [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> Le lundi, mars 12, 2018, 8:13 AM, John Lenti
>   <[1]johnle...@hotmail.com> a
> Ã ©crit :
>   I'm a little reluctant to share something that might seem almost
>   immoral, but what the hell, I make my living playing the lute and I
> tie
>   a lot of frets, so I'll chip in here: when I go, as I do almost
> weekly,
>   from my home in Seattle, where the weather is always perfect for
>   gut-strung-and-fretted instruments, to a place like the mountains
>   of
>   Montana or the desert of Tucson and the humidity is 1% and my frets
>   (usually it's 1, 5, and 6 on my main touring instrument) start
> slipping
>   and sliding around, and I don't feel like re-fretting, I tape them
> down
>   with masking tape.
>   Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
> 
>   __
>   From: [2][2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   <[3][3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
> behalf
>   of howard posner <[4][4]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
>   Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 9:01:32 AM
>   To: [5][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Loose frets
>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 8:12 AM, John Mardinly
> <[6][6]john.mardi...@asu.edu>
>   wrote:
>> 
>> My frets never come loose and they have not worn out yet. They
>   are
>> metal.
>   I want to know how you tied them on in the first place.  You must
> have
>   really strong fingers.
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>   2.
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>   .da
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>   rtmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html=02|01||b2e0482fe1c54b991ec6
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> ata=IZZ6Zu8XFrfsZCfWdhf7SHgTi7418M8H6c6WDYZPwhA==0
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>   References
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> 2. mailto:[11]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
> 3. mailto:[12]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
> 4. mailto:[13]howardpos...@ca.rr.com
> 5. mailto:[14]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> 6. 

[LUTE] Re: Bad lute music

[wayne lute]

John meant to say . . . 

Beethoven’s deafness was caused by “inner ear” problems, sometimes called 
labyrinthitis, a form of nerve deafness, not mechanical problems, such 
as damage to the eardrum or the small bones of the inner ear. As such, it is 
unlikely that the bone conduction would have been any use to him. 

A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: John Mardinly 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bad lute music
> Date: November 11, 2017 at 12:17:52 PM EST
> To: howard posner 
> Cc: Lutelist 
> 
> гM4ь6м>;р>јпa|а;уNЛпNћЎкВчИ*'ЕщэO*^Еьmў™ZŠw!jЛ
> 
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[LUTE] what about the lute database

[wayne lute]

Hi -

 There is a database of original lutes at 
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/associated/database/dbsearch.php 
 which at 
one time seemed like an active project, but it looks like nothing has happened 
in ten years.  Can anyone tell me what happened to this project?  I was 
reminded of it because I had to do some repair work to it.  It was sponsored by 
the Lute Society or America but I don’t see it on their new web site.

 Wayne


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[LUTE] Re: do you know these ads? -now removed

[wayne lute]

Hi Lute people -

 Thanks to you people who pointed out that the pictures came from ebay.  I have 
removed the ads from my web page.

  Wayne



> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: wbc 
> Subject: [LUTE] do you know these ads?
> Date: March 15, 2017 at 1:15:00 PM EDT
> To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> 
> Hi Lute people -
> 
>  I just got two ads, one for a romantic guitar and one for a vihuela, I 
> posted them on my lutes for sale web page -  
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html 
>  - but something about 
> the ads has me concerned.  They both came in within a few minutes, both are 
> terse and don’t describe the instrument much at all.  Neither pictures are 
> great.  And the names are a but odd.  Could you folks take a look at what now 
> are the first two entries and tell me what you think, especially if you 
> happen to know the people or instruments involved.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] was Baroque guitar tablature - now follow a link

[wayne lute]

Hi Monica -

  The lute mail list robot often messes up links in the body of the message, 
but 
down at the bottom of the message is a “References: section with the correct 
link.
The Referenced link just worked for me, but your mail reader might be different.

http://signtracks.com/facsimiles/Guitar/Baroque/Langhenhove/319_page_0205.jpg 


 Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk" 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Baroque guitar tablature
> Date: September 1, 2016 at 4:43:01 AM EDT
> To: 
> Cc: LutList 
> 
> 
> Can't actually access the page you have given.  However I have a copy 
> of the ms.
> 
> The vertical dasshes below and above the highest line indicate the 
> strumming. Down from the line is a bass to treble stroke and up from 
> the line is a treble to bass stroke.
> The open courses should be included in the chords provided that they 
> belong to the basic triad.  They don't include the "As" unless this is 
> essential to make sense.  
> A dot after a stroke may indicate that it is a dotted note - but I 
> can't see which specific piece you are referring to.
> An x is usually a descending appoggiatura from the note above.
> Oblique dashes below the stave  usually mean that the chord is to be 
> sustained.
> If you can tell me the page number or the title of the specific pieces 
> I might be able to shed a bit more light.
> BEst
> Monica
> Original Message
> From: al...@musickshandmade.com
> Date: 01/09/2016 8:05 
> To: "Lute List"
> Subj: [LUTE] Re: Baroque guitar tablature
> 
> I am hoping someone can help me understand some of the symbols on this
>   piece of Baroque guitar tablature - maybe Monica?
>   Here is a facsimile copy:
>   [1]http://signtracks.com/facsimiles/Guitar/Baroque/Langhenhove/319_page
> 
>   _0205.jpg
>   1 ) Small vertical dashes above the first line: I understand this is 
> an
>   indication of strumming with the hand from the bottom up - or is it 
> the
>   other way?
>   2) The dots after a vertical dash - like this "|."  : is that a 
> dotted
>   (invisible) flag value -- or a bar line -- or?
>   3) the 'x' - often following the dotted dash mentioned above:  a 
> shake
>   or mordent??? If so it looks a little far away from its note...
>   4) the 'y' that looks like the 'x' described above but more like a 
> 'y'
>   (or a 'v') and bigger: 
>   5) Oblique dashes on the first and/or 5th line: no idea what these
>   are...
>   I am also kind of wondering if open strings are not sort of implied
>   within a chord ...
>   Any help on any of the above appreciated. To me, it looks like 
> pretty
>   amazing short-hand from someone who knew the instrument extremely
>   well...
>   Alain
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> References
> 
>   1. 
> http://signtracks.com/facsimiles/Guitar/Baroque/Langhenhove/319_page_0205.jpg
> 
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[LUTE] Crawford Young is visiting the San Francisco Bay Area.

[wayne lute]

(forwarded message, reply to Mike)

Dear Ones,

Crawford Young is visiting the San Francisco Bay Area.

You are all invited to my house Saturday April 2, at 1pm for an open house to 
greet Crawford, have a lute party and see a slide show on Crawford’s PhD 
project on researches into the Early Cittern.  My address is 4118 Peregrine 
Way, Pleasanton CA.  

This is Crawford’s only visit to the USA and the Bay Area this year.

Crawford will be staying here for 3 weeks and will be leaving on April 18th.  
During this time he will be available for lute lessons and ensemble coaching 
either at my house or at yours, if you are in the Bay Area.  This is an ideal 
time to make connections and arrangements. If you wish to contact him directly 
you can email or text message Crawford at crawl...@hotmail.com 
, or Mike Peterson at mb...@comcast.net 
.

Crawford is interested in doing a lute concert towards the end of his stay, but 
we have not yet made any arrangements yet.  Last year we had the concert at 
Ifshin Violins in El Cerrito, which was a success.  Is there any interest in 
arranging a house concert locally on Saturday April 16?  If so, let me or 
Crawford know.

Mike Peterson
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[LUTE] Re: Performing lute in ensemble

[wayne lute]

To go in a completely different direction, one of the items sold on my “lutes 
for sale”
web page was a lute-banjo.  (The owner made it as a travel instrument.)  I bet 
that 
if you could put a lute neck on a Mastertone style pot you could keep up with 
modern strings!

Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Daniel Shoskes 
> Subject: [LUTE] Performing lute in ensemble
> Date: December 27, 2015 at 7:43:13 AM EST
> To: Lute List 
> 
> Dear list: I’ve been having fun with the Lauffensteiner g minor 
> “concerto” (andante:https://youtu.be/q9dV2QbcBc8 
> ). In the Brussels Ms it has parts for 2 violins 
> and 1 cello (OK, 2 treble clef instruments and a bass clef instrument with 
> figures). In performance of pieces like this, how do people handle balance of 
> instruments? Clearly having the other instruments in gut would help but 
> it’s still a struggle to have the lute loud enough in comparison with the 
> strings. Mics? Mutes? Just play as loud as you can all the way through?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Danny
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[LUTE] Re: Single versus triple roses

[wayne lute]

Herbert -

I think that a string has many resonant narrow frequencies, all musically 
related to each 
other.  A cymbal has many narrow resonant frequencies, all *not* musically 
related
to each other.  So our ears do not add them up into one musical note.
But the cymbal does resonate.

 Wayne


 Begin forwarded message:
 
 
 From: Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu 
 mailto:wa...@physics.utexas.edu
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Single versus triple roses
 
 As an exercise, I pose this question.  A cymbal has no definite
 pitch, but it rings for a long time.  So it does not follow the 
 rules below.  Why?
 
 
 On Sat, 29 Nov 2014, Herbert Ward wrote:
 
 But I invite all you proper physicists out there to explain why!
 
 I have a PhD in experimental physics.
 
 The term resonant frequency is a bit complicated.
 
 A string has a resonant frequency (its pitch).
 But a string's resonant frequency is obviously different from
 a lute's resonant frequency.  For when I tap my lute, it does not
 ring at a specific pitch like (F# or Bb or 413.7 Hz).
 
 A lute's resonant frequency is very broad (I guess several octaves).
 A string's resonant frequency is very narrow (I guess 0.5 Hz).
 
 As the math works out:
 lute   haves a broad resonant frequency  = short ring time
 string haves a narrow resonant frequency = long ring time
 
 The physical difference is how much damping there here.
 You can google damped harmonic oscillater for more info.
 
 Many factors apply to both lutes and strings:
1. lighter = higher pitch
2. stiffer = higher pitch
3. heavier = lower pitch
4. looser = lower pitch
 
 As to why a smaller rosette makes a lower pitch, I'm not sure.  It
 might be simply because the is more mass in the soundboard  (#3 above).
 Or it might have be related to how wooodwind sound holes work.  Or maybe
 both.  An experiment to resolve the question would, I'm afraid, involve
 the destruction/degradation of the soundboard on a good lute.
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!

[wayne lute]

Begin forwarded message:

 From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
 
 My Pignose Hog 30 
 is my go to amp for playing at outdoor events!  (along with a Sennheiser
 microphone and a line adaptor)
 
 How’s the bass response? Does it make a lute sound like a lute?
 I used to use the original model in my electric days, though I can’t for the 
 life of me remember what I used it for.
 

The Hog 30 is designed for bass, so it is clean and has much better bass than 
the little Pignose.  It is over a foot tall, so not as portable as the little 
one, but has big rechargeable batteries that last a long time, and if what goes 
in sounds like a lute, what comes out sounds like a lute.
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[LUTE] please edit the message you are replying to

[wayne lute]

Hi People -

  I would like to request that when you reply to one point in a long 
posting you edit the posting to remove the parts that you are not 
replying to.  For example, in Nancy's reply to Ernesto's message
she is referring to one comment he made, and I can't find that 
comment in his long message (or I am not willing to put that
much effort into finding it.)

  Wayne



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