[LUTE] Meaning of title "Silva de Sirenas"

[Eloy Cruz]

Dear List

The DRAE (Diccionario de la Real Academia Española) has, as first meaning:
Silva
1. f. Colección de materias o temas diversos, escritos sin método ni orden.

A collection of diverse  matters or subjects,  written without a method or 
order.

Silva as “selva” (jungle, forest) is meaning no. 5, and it’s marked 
“desus” (not used any more).

Regards


eloy





> On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:01 PM, Tristan von Neumann <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Also, there's Monteverdi's "Selva Morale e Spirituale" :)
> 
> 
> 
> Am 12.04.2018 um 00:37 schrieb Roman Turovsky:
>> Definitely not.
>> Stephen Fryer is correct -
>> A Forest of Sirens, a poetic title.
>> RT
>> On 4/11/2018 5:10 PM, d.p.medve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I am not an expert in Spanish but, as far as I understand, "silva" means
>>> simply "collection" (primarily of poetry, but in this case of music).
>>> It probably derives from the Latin word for "forest" (as a "collection" of
>>> trees), but I would not translate it literally.
>>> There are a number of similar titles from about the same period:
>>> "Silva de varios romances"
>>> "Silva de poesía"
>>> etc.
>>> So, I would translate the title as "A collection [of songs] of the sirens".
>>> 
>>> Dmitry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> On Behalf Of
>>> Jurgen Frenz
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 4:36 PM
>>> To: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>> Subject: [LUTE] Meaning of title "Silva de Sirenas"
>>> 
>>> Hello there,
>>> 
>>> another thread on this list motivated me to ask - the title of
>>> Valderrabano's publication "Silva de Sirenas" renders if latin was the
>>> source language "Arctic Forest" which I would find hard to believe and
>>> _nothing_ when setting Google translate to Spanish as source.
>>> 
>>> artic google.png
>>> 
>>> Hence my suspicion that 500 year old Spanish was using words
>>> differently. But what does the title mean in English (German/French)
>>> today? Would anybody know?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for helping, best wishes
>>> 
>>> Jurgen
>>> 
>>> --
>>> "There is a voice that doesn't use words. Listen."
>>> 
>>> JalÄl ad-DÄ«n Muhammad Rumi
>>> 
>>> 
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[LUTE] Meaning of title "Silva de Sirenas"

[Jurgen Frenz]

   Hello there,

   another thread on this list motivated me to ask - the title of
   Valderrabano's publication "Silva de Sirenas" renders if latin was the
   source language "Arctic Forest" which I would find hard to believe and
   _nothing_ when setting Google translate to Spanish as source.

   artic google.png

   Hence my suspicion that 500 year old Spanish was using words
   differently. But what does the title mean in English (German/French)
   today? Would anybody know?

   Thanks for helping, best wishes

   Jurgen

   --
   "There is a voice that doesn't use words. Listen."

   JalÄl ad-DÄ«n Muhammad Rumi


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