[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Hi Stefan, there's another print, Novus Partus by Besard (1617), that contains music for the tiorbino. Anything that is feasible on the theorbo should also be feasible on the tiorbino, I suppose. And I love that video by Albane Imbs. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

14:08 An: Mathias Rösel Cc: 'Lutelist'; 'Wolfgang u. Lenser-Emmerich Anita Emmerich'; 'Wolfgang u. Lenser-Emmerich Anita Emmerich' Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tiorbino According to the LSA database: labelled: Johannes Hieber und Andreas Pfanzelt //. Repair label: Louvet/ m (ai) tre luthier de paris à

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

According to the LSA database: labelled: Johannes Hieber und Andreas Pfanzelt //. Repair label: Louvet/ m (ai) tre luthier de paris à avignon/ mai 1778 pur Mr. Carpentraz// David At 13:27 +0200 19/6/20, Mathias Rösel wrote: On a side note, the names of the luthiers who built the tiorbino

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

On a side note, the names of the luthiers who built the tiorbino that is now kept in Geneva, are given as: Johannes Hieber and Andreas Pfanzelt (both on the museum's page and on Barber's / Harris's page). The name of Hieber's colleague in Padua, though, apparently was Martin(o) Pfanzelt,

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

--ba078705a85c0e35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oops, forgot the pics Le jeu. 18 juin 2020 à 09:47, Bruno Cognyl-Fournier a écrit : > This is the version Colin Everett, now deceased Canadian luther, made. He > made

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

This is the version Colin Everett, now deceased Canadian luther, made. He made several of these, 13 and 14 courses. Mine is 57/92 and tuned as an archlute in G. It us very easy to play and allows me to play everything from early Italian to Zamboni and all the English and french

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear all, I just asked Cleveland for some more informations. I will share them here. Andreas Am 18.06.2020 um 11:46 schrieb Davide Rebuffa <[1]davide.rebu...@fastwebnet.it>: Il giorno 18 giu 2020, alle ore 11:16, Davide Rebuffa <[2]davide.rebu...@fastwebnet.it> ha

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear Andreas, Yes I'm sorry, you are right, 5 courses on the petit jeu is not what Castaldi calls for. I must change my notes which I made many years ago! But the relative length of the extension on this instrument does make it _look_ more like the pictures which Castaldi engraved himself

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Many thanks for the clarification, Davide! M On 18/06/2020 11:16, Davide Rebuffa wrote: Dear all, The instrument in Cleveland could be a a very rare example of a 14-course small archlute (not a "liuto attiorbato" because it has single bourdons) or a 14-course tiorbino in G. The brand

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear Martin, It's up on Cleveland's website with lots of good photos at https://www.clevelandart.org/art/1918.368 Almost all original but according to my notes it has new bridge and nuts so we will never know for sure but they have it strung as 8 single strings in on the extension. Rather

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Hi All, I don't have many details of the Cleveland instrument, but I do have the poster!  I see 14 pegs for the petit jeu (7x2) and 8 pegs for the grand jeu (4x2), making it a 12-course liuto attiorbato. I think it was Larry Brown who had some measurements, if I remember correctly the petit

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

The Brussel instrument is depicted in „The Lute in Europe 2" p. 114. Because of the disposition of the petit jeu with 5 courses (1x1 + 4x2) I think it could be a Chitarra attiorbata. The tiorbina tablature in Castaldi asks for 6 courses in the petit jeu. Andreas Am 17.06.2020

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear David, dear Bruno, thanks to both of you so much! I agree that the Cleveland instrument, beautiful as it may be, seems more likely to be a small arciliuto. And I'm grateful for your pointing at MH Brussels No.1578. I shall try to get pictures and/or plans. Mathias To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I have three possibles listed: the Hieber Pfanzelt in Geneva, 490 & 760 mm, 1x1, 5x2 + 5x1 MH in Brussels No.1578, 538 & 1069mm, currently 9x1+ 8x1 but the bridge is not original so I suspect it was originally a 13 course tiorbino with 1x1, 4x2 in lower pegbox. This is what Castaldi calls

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Doesn't Besard's Novus Partus ask for a tiorbino for some of the ensemble pieces? On 11/20/19 9:12 AM, Richard Brook wrote: I agree with Howard If there is a free (or quite inexpensive) tiorbino around I would like to put in a request. Dick Brook On Nov 19, 2019, at 3:26 AM, howard

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I own a Colin Everett small archlute. 56.5/104..which I guess you could consider a tiorbino, although I have never strung it as such. I tune it in standard renaissance lute tuning, and I find if quite useful to play everything from 6 course music to 13 course zamboni. Very easy for

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I agree with Howard If there is a free (or quite inexpensive) tiorbino around I would like to put in a request. Dick Brook > On Nov 19, 2019, at 3:26 AM, howard posner wrote: > >> On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, yuval.dvo...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 8:47 AM, yuval.dvo...@posteo.de wrote: > > I was offered a Tiorbino, and I'm wondering what one can do with it (except > of playing Bellerofonte-Castaldi): Are there any proofs that it was used for > playing solo instead of a big theorbo or for playing continuo? Probably

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

What's with this thing about "historic accuracy" anyway? I am pretty sure people back then weren't half as dogmatic as historically informed musicians today. Depictions of ensembles often seem quite random in their choice of instruments. Also, what's the point of this scene: "Hey guys, I

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

If I understand it well the tiorbini is tuned one octave higher than a standard theorbo - hence you can play anything for theorbo, if you don't mind historic accuracy but just pure fun. Jurgen -- “Close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there.” Jalāl ad-Dīn

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

I've had a tiorbino before and I find it awesome for playing solo theorbo music. It sounds muck like a small harp. I even played De Visee on it and twas divine. Susan Original message From: yuval.dvo...@posteo.de Date: 11/17/19 9:47 AM (GMT-07:00) To:

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

- Forwarded Message - From: Martyn Hodgson To: Anthony Hart Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017, 7:40 Subject: Re: [LUTE] Tiorbino Dear Anthony, Extant instruments can be a minefield - what were they considered as

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Dear Anthony, There's one tiorbino made by Johannes Hieber and Andreas Pfanzelt in Geneva, Musée d'art et d'histoire, inv. no. IM 80. This instrument has a new soundboard with a new bridge, but the pegs give the following informations: petit jeu: 11 pegs (suggesting 1x1 + 5x2, 48.4 cm string

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

Hi Anthony, The Cleveland "tiorbino" is a puzzle. The current bridge shows 6x2 + 8x1, but there are 14 pegs in the lower pegbox and 8 in the upper. My best guess is that in its original form it was a 11c liuto attiorbato, 7x2 and 4x2. The string length of around 61cm for the petit jeu

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino

just for your information, I have a Tiorbino made by Colin Everett in Ottawa.. I tune it at standard Renaissance pitch (like a regular lute) my 7th through 13th course ( I don,t have 14 courses on this instrument, although Colin also made 14 courses) are singles and I have recently

[LUTE] Re: tiorbino

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:14:47 -0500, Bruno Fournier wrote dear collective wisdom, I am thinking of stringing my Colin Everette small archlute as a tiorbino. As some of you might know, Colin built many renaissance lutes on the tiorbino model, with 13 or 14 courses but was stringing it as

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

In fact my first performance of Castaldi's Capricci (in the same programma with Pittoni) was with the tiorbino part played on harpsichord - as it now appeares not to far from historical practice. Very interesting, thanks, Rob. Jurek ___ On 2008-02-05, at 10:55, Rob Lute wrote: I

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

Diego, did you read the essay? Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

On 2008-02-05, at 14:21, tiorba wrote: In fact my first performance of Castaldi's Capricci (in the same programma with Pittoni) was with the tiorbino part played on harpsichord - as it now appeares not to far from historical practice. Very interesting, thanks, Rob. Jurek It's indeed

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising new evidence

Yes, Diego, what is the introduction by Castaldi left out of the Minkoff print? Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino, by Castaldi

Tremendous thanks for this, Diego. Transcibing such in an old and foreign language text from an original would be a nightmare for me. Jurek _ On 2008-02-05, at 21:56, Diego Cantalupi wrote: That's the (difficult) text. I'll try to upload he page later ALLA NOBILE, SPLENDIDA E

[LUTE] Re: Tiorbino - surprising no evidence

Dear Diego, On 2008-02-05, at 21:51, Diego Cantalupi wrote: Changing instrumentation in music of the time is as natural as breathing. Almost all title pages of printed music testify to it. Not so easy... it's very difficult, if not impossible, to find any music for theorbo in mensural