Re: phone support

[Anthony via luv-main]

> All Android devices have an icon in the status bar if there's no SIM
> installed
> which is annoying.  You just need to keep all those old SIMs from when you
> change telcos and change SIM sizes.
>

Well, if you don't like the [!] icon in the notification tray, you can
switch it for an aeroplane :) ... putting a phone in flight mode should
remove the "Emergency calls only" warning, and on most handsets I've seen,
you can toggle the WiFi and/or Bluetooth back on after going into flight
mode. Will also prevent phone asking for SIM pin, if SIM (inactive or no)
has one.
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Re: phone support

[Russell Coker via luv-main]

On Friday, 2 December 2016 2:49:46 AM AEDT Andrew McGlashan via luv-main 
wrote:
> On 01/12/16 23:41, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 09:43:46PM +1100, russ...@coker.com.au wrote:
> >> I encourage anyone with Android phones in such situations to give them
> >> to the LUV hardware library.  Even 5yo Android phones are nice little
> >> embedded Linux systems that can be used for running your own programs.
> 
> Most older phones are good for something, but not with their original
> stock Android -- that wouldn't be safe to use; however, CM can go on
> many older phones, but sometimes that means that certain features are
> broken.
> 
> A less old phone can make great value and not be 5 years old.

My relative in question just bought a new Android phone from Kogan for $41 
including delivery insurance (they had a free delivery on that item).

Installing CM is a lot of pain, for me it's not worth saving $41.

While stock Android isn't safe for Internet banking etc, there are many uses 
where it should be OK.  Craig suggested a VOIP handset, that should be safe if 
firewalled to prevent other access.  Anything that you need a phone without 
net access and where you don't want to use your best phone (EG a GPS for 
hiking) would be a good use too.

> > most android phones will work in WIFI-only mode without a SIM card.
> 
> The E71 has a strange "feature", the WiFI only works if you have a SIM
> card inserted -- the SIM doesn't need to be active though.

All Android devices have an icon in the status bar if there's no SIM installed 
which is annoying.  You just need to keep all those old SIMs from when you 
change telcos and change SIM sizes.

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Re: phone support

[Andrew McGlashan via luv-main]

On 01/12/16 23:41, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 09:43:46PM +1100, russ...@coker.com.au wrote:
>> I encourage anyone with Android phones in such situations to give them
>> to the LUV hardware library.  Even 5yo Android phones are nice little
>> embedded Linux systems that can be used for running your own programs.

Most older phones are good for something, but not with their original
stock Android -- that wouldn't be safe to use; however, CM can go on
many older phones, but sometimes that means that certain features are
broken.

A less old phone can make great value and not be 5 years old.

> they also make nice WIFI VOIP handsets if you're running asterisk or
> similar, especially if you've got a charging dock so that they can stand
> upright.  Makes a quite decent alarm clock too.

Yes, I use an old Nokia E71 as an alarm clock... battery lasts a long time.

> most android phones will work in WIFI-only mode without a SIM card.

The E71 has a strange "feature", the WiFI only works if you have a SIM
card inserted -- the SIM doesn't need to be active though.

> I'm still using my old HTC Desire HD, but i'll probably replace it
> sometime in the next few years. When i do, i'll keep using it as a WIFI
> handset for asterisk until the battery dies.

Yes.

A.



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Re: phone support

[Craig Sanders via luv-main]

On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 09:43:46PM +1100, russ...@coker.com.au wrote:
> I encourage anyone with Android phones in such situations to give them
> to the LUV hardware library.  Even 5yo Android phones are nice little
> embedded Linux systems that can be used for running your own programs.

they also make nice WIFI VOIP handsets if you're running asterisk or
similar, especially if you've got a charging dock so that they can stand
upright.  Makes a quite decent alarm clock too.

most android phones will work in WIFI-only mode without a SIM card.


I'm still using my old HTC Desire HD, but i'll probably replace it
sometime in the next few years. When i do, i'll keep using it as a WIFI
handset for asterisk until the battery dies.

craig

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