Re: openSUSE Build Service

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom corne...@solcon.nl wrote: I have set up a project for building binaries from svn in the open(SUSE) BuildService. After reading the discussion on the Ubuntu ppa I did not think a similar approach would be feasible for OBS. Great - thanks a lot Cor.

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: John McCabe-Dansted wrote: Possibly we could try to get Rainer recognized as a Per-package Uploader for LyX, if Rainer wants this. Getting involved in Ubuntu is reputably easier than Debian. This would involve some

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: yes this was the idea. otherwise i dont believe we can't do much about the whole thing except extremistic solutions like doing ppas and ask ubuntu

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, John McCabe-Dansted gma...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: yes this was the idea. otherwise i dont believe we can't do much about

Re: \textvisiblespace

Le 02/07/2011 22:24, Guenter Milde a écrit : Frankly, inserting special characters is a nightmare to me. You look at an endless list of unicode characters, and you only know whether they render in the GUI main font. Then you insert it in the document, it shows or not on your screen (depending on

Re: r39231 - in lyx-devel/trunk: lib/doc src

Le 03/07/2011 02:47, Richard Heck a écrit : If there are no string changes, go now, if you wish. Any news on ftp? The news as of 30/06 is that there is no news :( This is getting really annoying. JMarc

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

Le 03/07/2011 15:17, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : Whenever I try to run a recent version of trunk I get the error below. This does not seem to be a regession in LyX but rather a regression in the Ubuntu boost... except that they don't seem to have changed that recently. I don't really know what

LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Checking http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, and it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: Some fresh blood for the pkg-lyx team would be cool too (Sven,

Re: LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Rainer M Krug wrote: Checking http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, and it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: Some fresh blood for the pkg-lyx team would be cool too (Sven,

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote: Le 03/07/2011 15:17, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc'   what():  std::bad_alloc The problem is that external boost is in general compiled without

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the trust you put in me, but I do not nearly know enough about building software, configuration and ubuntu to feel comfortable with this role. I don't think that Ubuntu would let you fill the role without a

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, John McCabe-Dansted gma...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the trust you put in me, but I do not nearly know enough about building software, configuration and ubuntu to feel comfortable with

Re: LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Rainer M Krug wrote: Checking http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, and it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: Some fresh blood

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to Hmm, if we wanted to be really fancy we could add an upgrade to lyx-2.0.latest in the about dialog, and replace the You have crashed, please report a

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:10 PM, John McCabe-Dansted gma...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to Hmm, if we wanted to be really fancy we could add an upgrade to

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

Le 04/07/2011 13:15, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : The problem is that external boost is in general compiled without stdlib-debug. Therefore you need to do that same with LyX itself. Does option --disable-stdlib-debug help? That seems to help I do not know how to make this test automatic,

Re: openSUSE Build Service

Op maandag 4 juli 2011 10:54:13 schreef Rainer M Krug: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom corne...@solcon.nl wrote: I have setup a project called lyx-unstable in my home project, with two packages: lyx (this is a regular build from branch-2.0.x) and lyx-unstable (from trunk). The

Re: openSUSE Build Service

Op maandag 4 juli 2011 01:08:01 schreef Pavel Sanda: Cor Blom wrote: I have set up a project for building binaries from svn in the open(SUSE) BuildService. After reading the discussion on the Ubuntu ppa I did not think a similar approach would be feasible for OBS. btw these pages can be

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Rainer M Krug wrote: Check every week for updates and if there is a newer version, if there is one, offer to download it and install it. this is really not our bussines. each distro has its own package managment and there is no man power to care about all of them (if you don't want to cripple

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

John McCabe-Dansted wrote: I think asking Ubuntu to drop LyX from their official repos, was the extremistic part of that solution, not the creation of a PPA. that was it :) p

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Rainer M Krug wrote: Check every week for updates and if there is a newer version, if there is one, offer to download it and install it. this is really not our bussines. each distro has its own package managment and there is

Re: openSUSE Build Service

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom corne...@solcon.nl wrote: Op maandag 4 juli 2011 10:54:13 schreef Rainer M Krug: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom corne...@solcon.nl wrote: I have setup a project called lyx-unstable in my home project, with two packages: lyx (this is

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to their system (if ubuntu is happy with that) and also put the info in the help files One innocent Easter egg would be just this: for all non-stable

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: I thought about that as well, but it might be problematic with Ubuntu: the reason why ubuntu-tweak was not included in the ubuntu cd, was that it contained mechanisms to add ppas to the system - it seems that ubuntu does

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Liviu Andronic wrote: Is this feasible? you know where the problems is only after the release. pavel

Re: openSUSE Build Service

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom corne...@solcon.nl wrote: I do not think that's a good idea - LyX installed by the system should always be the last *released version*, and not BRANCH_2_0_X. Normal users should not use this repository, but stay with the package in Publising. Does

Re: openSUSE Build Service

Op maandag 4 juli 2011 18:01:28 schreef Liviu Andronic: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom corne...@solcon.nl wrote: I do not think that's a good idea - LyX installed by the system should always be the last *released version*, and not BRANCH_2_0_X. Normal users should not use this

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: the image ubuntu makes for lyx is bad. they are pushing not well tested versions of qt/lyx into repo, but they do not update bugfixing releases so user gets unstable lyx at the end. it happened with their last LTS 10.04 (not

Re: openSUSE Build Service

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom wrote: > I have set up a project for building binaries from svn in the open(SUSE) > BuildService. After reading the discussion on the Ubuntu ppa I did not > think a > similar approach would be feasible for OBS. > Great - thanks a lot

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > > Possibly we could try to get Rainer recognized as a Per-package > > Uploader for LyX, if Rainer wants this. Getting involved in Ubuntu is > > reputably easier than Debian. This would involve some

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > yes this was the idea. otherwise i dont believe we can't do much about > the > > whole thing except extremistic "solutions" like doing ppas and

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Liviu Andronic > wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > >> yes this was the idea. otherwise i dont believe we can't do

Re: \textvisiblespace

Le 02/07/2011 22:24, Guenter Milde a écrit : Frankly, inserting special characters is a nightmare to me. You look at an endless list of unicode characters, and you only know whether they render in the GUI main font. Then you insert it in the document, it shows or not on your screen (depending on

Re: r39231 - in lyx-devel/trunk: lib/doc src

Le 03/07/2011 02:47, Richard Heck a écrit : If there are no string changes, go now, if you wish. Any news on ftp? The news as of 30/06 is that there is no news :( This is getting really annoying. JMarc

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

Le 03/07/2011 15:17, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : Whenever I try to run a recent version of trunk I get the error below. This does not seem to be a regession in LyX but rather a regression in the Ubuntu boost... except that they don't seem to have changed that recently. I don't really know what

LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Checking http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, and it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: "Some fresh blood for the pkg-lyx team would be cool too" (Sven,

Re: LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Rainer M Krug wrote: > Checking > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx > I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, and > it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: > > "Some fresh blood for the pkg-lyx team would be cool too" > (Sven, >

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 03/07/2011 15:17, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : >> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' >>   what():  std::bad_alloc > > The problem is that external boost is in general compiled

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > Thanks for the trust you put in me, but I do not nearly know enough about > building software, configuration and ubuntu to feel comfortable with this > role. I don't think that Ubuntu would let you fill the role without a

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > Thanks for the trust you put in me, but I do not nearly know enough about > > building software, configuration and ubuntu to feel

Re: LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Rainer M Krug wrote: > > Checking > > > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx > > I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, > and > > it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: > > > >

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to Hmm, if we wanted to be really fancy we could add an "upgrade to lyx-2.0.latest" in the about dialog, and replace the "You have crashed, please

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:10 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to > > Hmm, if we wanted to be really fancy we could add an "upgrade to

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

Le 04/07/2011 13:15, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : The problem is that external boost is in general compiled without stdlib-debug. Therefore you need to do that same with LyX itself. Does option --disable-stdlib-debug help? That seems to help I do not know how to make this test automatic,

Re: openSUSE Build Service

Op maandag 4 juli 2011 10:54:13 schreef Rainer M Krug: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom wrote: > > > I have setup a project called "lyx-unstable" in my home project, with two > > packages: lyx (this is a regular build from branch-2.0.x) and > > lyx-unstable (from

Re: openSUSE Build Service

Op maandag 4 juli 2011 01:08:01 schreef Pavel Sanda: > Cor Blom wrote: > > I have set up a project for building binaries from svn in the open(SUSE) > > BuildService. After reading the discussion on the Ubuntu ppa I did not > > think a similar approach would be feasible for OBS. > > btw these

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Rainer M Krug wrote: > Check every week for updates and if there is a newer version, if there is > one, offer to download it and install it. this is really not our bussines. each distro has its own package managment and there is no man power to care about all of them (if you don't want to cripple

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > I think asking Ubuntu to drop LyX from their official repos, was the > "extremistic" part of that solution, not the creation of a PPA. that was it :) p

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Rainer M Krug wrote: > > Check every week for updates and if there is a newer version, if there is > > one, offer to download it and install it. > > this is really not our bussines. each distro has its own package > managment

Re: openSUSE Build Service

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom wrote: > Op maandag 4 juli 2011 10:54:13 schreef Rainer M Krug: > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom wrote: > > > > > I have setup a project called "lyx-unstable" in my home project, with > two > > >

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to > their system (if ubuntu is happy with that) and also put the info in the > help files > One innocent Easter egg would be just this: for all

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I thought about that as well, but it might be problematic with Ubuntu: the > reason why ubuntu-tweak was not included in the ubuntu cd, was that it > contained mechanisms to add ppas to the system - it seems that ubuntu

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

Liviu Andronic wrote: > Is this feasible? you know where the problems is only after the release. pavel

Re: openSUSE Build Service

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom wrote: >> I do not think that's a good idea - LyX installed by the system should >> always be the last *released version*, and not BRANCH_2_0_X. > > Normal users should not use this repository, but stay with the package in > Publising.

Re: openSUSE Build Service

Op maandag 4 juli 2011 18:01:28 schreef Liviu Andronic: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom wrote: > >> I do not think that's a good idea - LyX installed by the system should > >> always be the last *released version*, and not BRANCH_2_0_X. > > > > Normal users should

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > the image ubuntu makes for lyx is bad. they are pushing not well tested > versions of qt/lyx into repo, but they do not update bugfixing releases > so user gets unstable lyx at the end. it happened with their last LTS 10.04 >