Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: This is what I was suggesting (and is implemented in the patch). It is clearly not popular though. You really find this useful? Single hit of end key bring me to the end while there is no comparable jump back to original row in case I hit down arrow more times than

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2013 um 23:56:09, schrieb Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org Scott Kostyshak wrote: This is what I was suggesting (and is implemented in the patch). It is clearly not popular though. You really find this useful? Single hit of end key bring me to the end while there is no

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel Benko wrote: It is not only move the cursor, but also selecting parts of text. I agree that for selecting text it feels more natural (basically because one tends to be more careful about each keystroke compared to the situation when you just move in the document). But that does not

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013 um 00:42:41, schrieb Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org Kornel Benko wrote: It is not only move the cursor, but also selecting parts of text. I agree that for selecting text it feels more natural (basically because one tends to be more careful about each keystroke

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
What does OSX do? This could be part of our mac-like cursor handling. JM arc Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org a écrit : On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Should we do begining-of-line when in the first lien to be consistent as well? This is what I was

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel Benko wrote: But that does not explain why don't you simply use ctrl+shift+end. Have you tried? It feels uhm complicated. Yes I have. It didn't look so bad to me, bad as said in the selection scenario the proposal makes more sense compared to just movement. Pavel

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Jerry
On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote: LyX users influence development by posting tickets on trac. A few brave users participate in discussions on lyx-devel. I think there is a clear way for LyX users who would like to get in touch with LyX developers. I think

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org: What does OSX do? It moves to the very end of the last paragraph and does the same while extending the selection. This could be part of our mac-like cursor handling. Yes, indeed. It should be part of it, IMHO. Stephan

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.06.2013 um 12:33 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net: Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org: What does OSX do? It moves to the very end of the last paragraph and does the same while extending the selection. This could be part of our mac-like

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Cyrille Artho c.ar...@aist.go.jp wrote: Hi Scott, I think an annual survey is too slow and does not help if a patch is ready and the next survey is 11 months away. I think a few questions (like yours below) sent to the lyx-users and/or lyx-devel mailing lists

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote: On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote: LyX users influence development by posting tickets on trac. A few brave users participate in discussions on lyx-devel. I think there is a clear way for LyX

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote: This is what I call a real democracy, so good news from LyX developers. Now my 2c (personal opinion, not necesarily ok) (A1) continuous spell-check by default. I don“t like this, I first write and then spell check

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Scott Kostyshak wrote: This is what I was suggesting (and is implemented in the patch). It is clearly not popular though. You really find this useful? I do, but I recognize that I'm strange in this sense. Scott

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
20/06/2013 13:01, Stephan Witt: Am 20.06.2013 um 12:33 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net: Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org: What does OSX do? It moves to the very end of the last paragraph and does the same while extending the selection. This

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
20/06/2013 16:06, Scott Kostyshak: Having thought about it for all of five seconds now, would it make sense to solicit the users' list before each survey to get ideas for the survey, then follow up with some benevolent editing to create the actual survey? Good idea. LyX users might also be

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.06.2013 um 16:09 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org: 20/06/2013 13:01, Stephan Witt: Am 20.06.2013 um 12:33 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net: Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org: What does OSX do? It moves to the very end of

Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Rubin
Before I file a ticket on this, I want to make sure it is not intended behavior. If I have more than one file open (so the display is using tabs), and if one of the file names contains an ampersand character, the tab label does not display the ampersand and instead marks the next character as an

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag 20 Juni 2013, 15:53:44 schrieb Paul Rubin: Before I file a ticket on this, I want to make sure it is not intended behavior. If I have more than one file open (so the display is using tabs), and if one of the file names contains an ampersand character, the tab label does not

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
20/06/2013 16:37, Stephan Witt: Yes. Originally it was: if (!atFirstOrLastRow) { do_something(); } now it is: if (atFirstOrLastRow) { if (lyxrc.mac_like_cursor_movement) { scotts_doing(); } // do nothing - Pavels preference } else { do_something(); } Ok? What would happen with

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Paul Rubin ru...@msu.edu wrote: Before I file a ticket on this, I want to make sure it is not intended behavior. If I have more than one file open (so the display is using tabs), and if one of the file names contains an ampersand character, the tab label

Re: [LyX GSoC/scroll/testing] cs.po - start 2.1 translations.

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Heck
On 06/20/2013 03:42 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Pavel, something is fishy here It should be fine. Pavel didn't actually commit this. It must have been something odd that happened with this testing branch of Hashini's.\ rh JM arc Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org a écrit : The branch,

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Rubin
Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes: Depending on the OS, it may not be a good idea to have ampersand chars in file names. Probably true, but I don't recall having problems with it either in Linux or in Windows, and I'm afraid I'm a bit prone to using it. Paul

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Rubin
Jürgen Spitzmüller spitz at lyx.org writes: Bug. Okay; I'll file a ticket. Thanks.

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: > This is what I was suggesting (and is implemented in the patch). It is > clearly not popular though. You really find this useful? Single hit of end key bring me to the end while there is no comparable jump back to original row in case I hit down arrow more times than

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2013 um 23:56:09, schrieb Pavel Sanda > Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > This is what I was suggesting (and is implemented in the patch). It is > > clearly not popular though. > > You really find this useful? Single hit of end key bring me to the end while > there

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel Benko wrote: > It is not only move the cursor, but also selecting parts of text. I agree that for selecting text it feels more natural (basically because one tends to be more careful about each keystroke compared to the situation when you just move in the document). But that does not

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Donnerstag, 20. Juni 2013 um 00:42:41, schrieb Pavel Sanda > Kornel Benko wrote: > > It is not only move the cursor, but also selecting parts of text. > > I agree that for selecting text it feels more natural (basically > because one tends to be more careful about each

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
What does OSX do? This could be part of our mac-like cursor handling. JM arc Scott Kostyshak a écrit : >On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: >> Should we do begining-of-line when in the first lien to be consistent >as well? > >This is what I

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel Benko wrote: > > But that does not explain why don't you simply use ctrl+shift+end. > > Have you tried? It feels uhm complicated. Yes I have. It didn't look so bad to me, bad as said in the selection scenario the proposal makes more sense compared to just movement. Pavel

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Jerry
On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > LyX users influence development by posting tickets on trac. A few > brave users participate in discussions on lyx-devel. I think there is > a clear way for LyX users who would like to get in touch with LyX > developers. I

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : > What does OSX do? It moves to the very end of the last paragraph and does the same while extending the selection. > This could be part of our mac-like cursor handling. Yes, indeed. It should be part of it, IMHO.

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.06.2013 um 12:33 schrieb Stephan Witt : > Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : > >> What does OSX do? > > It moves to the very end of the last paragraph and does the same while > extending the selection. > >> This could be part of

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Cyrille Artho wrote: > Hi Scott, > I think an annual survey is too slow and does not help if a patch is ready > and the next survey is 11 months away. > > I think a few questions (like yours below) sent to the lyx-users and/or > lyx-devel

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 4:49 AM, Jerry wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > >> LyX users influence development by posting tickets on trac. A few >> brave users participate in discussions on lyx-devel. I think there is >> a

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote: > This is what I call a real democracy, so good news from LyX developers. Now > my 2c (personal opinion, not necesarily ok) > > >> (A1) continuous spell-check by default. > > > I don“t like this, I first write and then

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Scott Kostyshak wrote: >> This is what I was suggesting (and is implemented in the patch). It is >> clearly not popular though. > > You really find this useful? I do, but I recognize that I'm strange in this sense. Scott

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
20/06/2013 13:01, Stephan Witt: Am 20.06.2013 um 12:33 schrieb Stephan Witt : Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : What does OSX do? It moves to the very end of the last paragraph and does the same while extending the selection. This

Re: annual survery of LyX users

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
20/06/2013 16:06, Scott Kostyshak: Having thought about it for all of five seconds now, would it make sense to solicit the users' list before each survey to get ideas for the survey, then follow up with some benevolent editing to create the actual survey? Good idea. LyX users might also be

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.06.2013 um 16:09 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : > 20/06/2013 13:01, Stephan Witt: >> Am 20.06.2013 um 12:33 schrieb Stephan Witt : >> >>> Am 20.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes : >>> What does OSX do? >>> >>> It

Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Rubin
Before I file a ticket on this, I want to make sure it is not intended behavior. If I have more than one file open (so the display is using tabs), and if one of the file names contains an ampersand character, the tab label does not display the ampersand and instead marks the next character as an

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Donnerstag 20 Juni 2013, 15:53:44 schrieb Paul Rubin: > Before I file a ticket on this, I want to make sure it is not intended > behavior. If I have more than one file open (so the display is using tabs), > and if one of the file names contains an ampersand character, the tab label > does not

Re: [PATCH] LFUN_DOWN: if cursor is on last line, move to end

2013-06-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
20/06/2013 16:37, Stephan Witt: Yes. Originally it was: if (!atFirstOrLastRow) { do_something(); } now it is: if (atFirstOrLastRow) { if (lyxrc.mac_like_cursor_movement) { scotts_doing(); } // do nothing - Pavels preference } else { do_something(); } Ok? What would happen with

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Before I file a ticket on this, I want to make sure it is not intended > behavior. If I have more than one file open (so the display is using tabs), > and if one of the file names contains an ampersand character, the tab label >

Re: [LyX GSoC/scroll/testing] cs.po - start 2.1 translations.

2013-06-20 Thread Richard Heck
On 06/20/2013 03:42 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Pavel, something is fishy here It should be fine. Pavel didn't actually commit this. It must have been something odd that happened with this testing branch of Hashini's.\ rh JM arc Pavel Sanda a écrit : The

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Rubin
Liviu Andronic gmail.com> writes: > Depending on the OS, it may not be a good idea to have ampersand chars > in file names. > Probably true, but I don't recall having problems with it either in Linux or in Windows, and I'm afraid I'm a bit prone to using it. Paul

Re: Ampersand in file name: bug or feature?

2013-06-20 Thread Paul Rubin
Jürgen Spitzmüller lyx.org> writes: > > Bug. Okay; I'll file a ticket. Thanks.