Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-14 03:52, Daniel wrote: On 2023-10-13 18:07, Daniel wrote: On 2023-10-13 17:24, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 17:08 +0200 schrieb Daniel: I agree that the menus of these apps are complex. But that might be in their nature. Well, they are aware of it:

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-13 18:07, Daniel wrote: On 2023-10-13 17:24, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 17:08 +0200 schrieb Daniel: I agree that the menus of these apps are complex. But that might be in their nature. Well, they are aware of it:

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-13 17:44, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 13/10/2023 à 17:08, Daniel a écrit :  > I agree that the menus of these apps are complex. But that might be in their nature. I guess the Ribbon was a (maybe controversial) attempt to solve this problem. But I think LyX with its hidden menus

Re: Europe CV not compiling

2023-10-13 Thread Dan
11 d’oct. de 2023, 1:08 per udifog...@gmail.com: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 1:50 AM José Matos wrote: > >> >> On Tue, 2023-10-10 at 23:58 +0200, Dan wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I stumbled upon a problem compiling with pdflatex the "Europe CV" >> > example. I get the following error, in both

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-13 17:24, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 17:08 +0200 schrieb Daniel: I agree that the menus of these apps are complex. But that might be in their nature. Well, they are aware of it:

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 13/10/2023 à 17:08, Daniel a écrit : > I agree that the menus of these apps are complex. But that might be in their nature. I guess the Ribbon was a (maybe controversial) attempt to solve this problem. But I think LyX with its hidden menus is actually worse to figure out. I am still

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 17:08 +0200 schrieb Daniel: > I agree that the menus of these apps are complex. But that might be > in their nature. Well, they are aware of it: https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/01/22/way-down-in-the-libreoffice-menus/ > I guess the Ribbon was a

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-13 16:37, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 16:27 +0200 schrieb Daniel: It seems to have a not unusual length as compared to Writer and Word. which have both a horrible UI. I regularly get lost in the intransparent structure when using either of these apps.

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-13 15:10, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 10:43:45AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 08:05 +0200 schrieb Daniel: It seems to be a rather universally accepted UI rule that menu items should not be hidden. Feel free to can check your

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 16:27 +0200 schrieb Daniel: > It seems to have a not unusual length as compared to Writer and Word. which have both a horrible UI. I regularly get lost in the intransparent structure when using either of these apps. > However, I have noticed that LyX does have

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-13 16:18, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 16:11 +0200 schrieb Daniel: An example would be interesting. As I mentioned, I enabled all menu items and didn't notice too long menus (not longer than in other popular apps anyway). The Insert menu is already too

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 16:11 +0200 schrieb Daniel: > An example would be interesting. As I mentioned, I enabled all menu > items and didn't notice too long menus (not longer than in other > popular apps anyway). The Insert menu is already too long now, with entries hidden. > But I am a

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
On 2023-10-13 10:43, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 08:05 +0200 schrieb Daniel: It seems to be a rather universally accepted UI rule that menu items should not be hidden. Feel free to can check your favorite apps or search the recommendation on the web. (There is also

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 10:43:45AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 08:05 +0200 schrieb Daniel: > > It seems to be a rather universally accepted UI rule that menu items > > should not be hidden. Feel free to can check your favorite apps or > > search the

Re: Big number of inverted docbook5 tests

2023-10-13 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:59:17 +0200 schrieb Thibaut Cuvelier : > On Thu, 12 Oct 2023, 11:11 Kornel Benko, wrote: > > > > > Master trunk as of today: > > I count 406 tests for docbook5. 149 of them are inverted. > > Thibaut, is there a reason for such a huge ratio? > > > There are two major

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 10:43 +0200 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: > And > > "Don't put more than 12 items within a single level of a menu. Add > separators between logical groups within a menu. Organize the menu > items into groups of seven or fewer strongly related items." > > It also says:

Re: Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 08:05 +0200 schrieb Daniel: > It seems to be a rather universally accepted UI rule that menu items > should not be hidden. Feel free to can check your favorite apps or > search the recommendation on the web. (There is also the more extreme > recommendations to not

Don't hide menus

2023-10-13 Thread Daniel
It seems to be a rather universally accepted UI rule that menu items should not be hidden. Feel free to can check your favorite apps or search the recommendation on the web. (There is also the more extreme recommendations to not even disable menu entries but I think it is generally agreed that