Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 17-Jul-2001 R. Lahaye wrote: A window like the math-panel could help out here. Support is a must, I bet, if LyX 1.2.0 persues the [666] insets style. Sure this would be a good idea IMO and we would also need the grafical representation then we just could add specialchar-insets for any

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread R. Lahaye
) symbol? I now use in texmode \AA. But that results in Thisis 2 [666]| || | \AA| || in size. Can't be

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Have I missed the trick about how to make this example a > "one-liner" in LyX. You seemingly missed a bit of the ongoing "Lars bashing"... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread R. Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > Have I missed the trick about how to make this example a > > "one-liner" in LyX. > > You seemingly missed a bit of the ongoing "Lars bashing"... Should I learn from this reply that in LyX WYSIWYM "This is 2 A apart." will not anymore fit on one line (A as the

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
in size." | | Where "A" is the Angstrom (the tiny distance) symbol? Of course you could just use 'Å'... alternatively "accent-circle A" | I now use in texmode \AA. But that results in | | This

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > | > "R. Lahaye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > | Where "A" is the Angstrom (the tiny distance) symbol? | > | > Of course you could just use 'Å'... alternatively "accent-circle A" | | Great! Didn't know that! | |

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread R. Lahaye
Lars Gullik Bjnnes wrote: > > \oe not in latin1 > \o is '' '' > \l not in latin1 > \SS is 'ß' Black Magic! > We do not have good support for the unaccented special chars. A window like the math-panel could help out here. Support is a must, I bet, if LyX 1.2.0 persues the

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-17 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 17-Jul-2001 R. Lahaye wrote: > A window like the math-panel could help out here. > Support is a must, I bet, if LyX 1.2.0 persues the [666] insets style. Sure this would be a good idea IMO and we would also need the grafical representation then we just could add specialchar-insets f

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-13 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:49:35AM +0100, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: That's the reason why I liked to have the support for latex font (to be changed to a paragraph layout property, of course) in Paragraph (just the caracter passthrough and ignore fonts stuff). With the verbatim

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Kayvan == Kayvan A Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kayvan Question: How can I get a particular paragraph style to have a Kayvan certain color? I would like to have the Scrap layout show up Kayvan as red. Use in the font definition Color red or even Color latex although I'm not sure the

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-13 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 10:06:21AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Kayvan == Kayvan A Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kayvan Question: How can I get a particular paragraph style to have a Kayvan certain color? I would like to have the Scrap layout show up Kayvan as red. Use in the

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-13 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 10:49:35AM +0100, Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos wrote: > > That's the reason why I liked to have the support for latex font (to > > be changed to a paragraph layout property, of course) in Paragraph > > (just the caracter passthrough and ignore fonts stuff). > > With the

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Kayvan" == Kayvan A Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kayvan> Question: How can I get a particular paragraph style to have a Kayvan> certain color? I would like to have the Scrap layout show up Kayvan> as red. Use in the font definition Color red or even Color latex although I'm not

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-13 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 10:06:21AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Kayvan" == Kayvan A Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Kayvan> Question: How can I get a particular paragraph style to have a > Kayvan> certain color? I would like to have the Scrap layout show up > Kayvan> as

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-11 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: It has never been supported, it has just happened to work by chance. And you can continue to use it, just don't complain when it breaks. Well we just have to remember it Lars. When we do old document read that if we get to an inset in LaTeX mode we

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-11 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: Why not always draw the inset inlined? If the user wants, he can put the inset in a paragraph of its own. Well this is easy to answer! Inlined TextInsets can not break row! So you would have to write all your LaTeX code in one row, this may be nice for some

Re: 666

2001-07-11 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 10-Jul-2001 Eran Tromer wrote: But these are mere trifles, now that LyX starts with Juergen's new development banner... :-) We like to have visual feedback of a lived Developer's meeting ;) Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr.

Re: 666

2001-07-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? What about using the hyphenation special inset for that? Andre Convincing argument. Andre And what about = ? (with \documentclass[german...]{...}) This will not work, because we

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-11 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > It has never been supported, it has just happened to work by chance. > And you can continue to use it, just don't complain when it breaks. Well we just have to remember it Lars. When we do "old document read" that if we get to an inset in LaTeX mode

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-11 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: > Why not always draw the inset inlined? > If the user wants, he can put the inset in a paragraph of its own. Well this is easy to answer! Inlined TextInsets can not break row! So you would have to write all your LaTeX code in one row, this may be nice for some

Re: 666

2001-07-11 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 10-Jul-2001 Eran Tromer wrote: > But these are mere trifles, now that LyX starts with Juergen's new > development banner... :-) We like to have visual feedback of a "lived" Developer's meeting ;) Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr.

Re: 666

2001-07-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? >> What about using the hyphenation special inset for that? Andre> Convincing argument. Andre> And what about "= ? (with \documentclass[german...]{...}) This will not

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Dekel == Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dekel On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:58:53PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller Dekel wrote: On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:15, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: \, - should be supported in LyX Totally agreed! See my mail from June 26 for this

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to allow Lars definitions of insets in the layout files. It should suffice to Lars be able to run lfuns from the layout files. (rather to bind Lars lfuns to layout styles.) And what

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Jürgen == Jürgen Spitzmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: \/ - we should have support for this Jürgen Totally agreed. In what context do you use it? I thought \emph took care of ithat. JMarc

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 10:31 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Jürgen == Jürgen Spitzmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: \/ - we should have support for this Jürgen Totally agreed. In what context do you use it? I thought \emph took care of ithat. I use it to produce correct ligatures/

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to allow | Lars definitions of insets in the layout files. It should suffice to | Lars be able to run lfuns from the layout

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: | | I think \emph has nothing to do here (?) no, ... only with italic correction. -- Lgb

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
Then I opt to not have a LaTeX style at all, and stay with the compability convertion and a Insert ERT button. The only reason I have for proposing the altered LaTeX Layout at all is to have it working in a similar way as before, but it is not really needed. How about Literate scraps?

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Lars the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to Lars allow | Lars definitions of insets in the layout

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Kayvan A. Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Then I opt to not have a LaTeX style at all, and stay with the | compability convertion and a Insert ERT button. | | The only reason I have for proposing the altered LaTeX Layout at all | is to have it working in a similar way as before, but

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Lars The only reason I have for proposing the altered LaTeX Layout Lars at all is to have it working in a similar way as before, but it Lars is not really needed. Howerver, we have to work out a reasonable way of

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: | | I think Lars \emph has nothing to do here (?) Lars no, ... only with italic correction. And \/ is exactly meant for italic correction (I guess this is what Lars alluded to). In fact,

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 11:56 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: And \/ is exactly meant for italic correction (I guess this is what Lars alluded to). In fact, the right way to break an hyphentation is \texcompwordmark{} (and probably a nifty | or whatever in german babel). In fact, I was

666

2001-07-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
Konni has just discovered the new feature. It sounds as she does not like it... ... it still sound that way... What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? And what about the red color in math? Should I fake it simply by changing the color? Andre' -- André Pönitz

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Konni has just discovered the new feature. It sounds as she Andre does not like it... ... it still sound that way... Andre What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? What about using the hyphenation special inset for that?

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
Andre What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? What about using the hyphenation special inset for that? Convincing argument. And what about = ? (with \documentclass[german...]{...}) Andre And what about the red color in math? Andre Should I fake it simply by changing

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Herbert Voss
Andre Poenitz wrote: Konni has just discovered the new feature. It sounds as she does not like it... ... it still sound that way... greetings to her, because it's the same with me. i have a lot of texts with a lot of different tex-stuff and it's annoying with the new feature ... Herbert

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
-stuff and it's annoying with the new feature ... Herbert After trying this out extensively since yesterday I have to say: we are three now (the support of more insets shure makes it better, but I still think 666 is more evil than ERT). Jürgen

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
it's the same with me. i have a lot of texts with a lot of different tex-stuff and it's annoying with the new feature ... Herbert After trying this out extensively since yesterday I have to say: we are three now (the support of more insets shure makes it better, but I still think 666

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dekel> On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:58:53PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller Dekel> wrote: >> On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:15, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > \, - >> should be supported in LyX Totally agreed! See my mail from June 26 >> for this >>

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to allow Lars> definitions of insets in the layout files. It should suffice to Lars> be able to run lfuns from the layout files. (rather to bind Lars> lfuns to layout

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> \/ - we should have support for this Jürgen> Totally agreed. In what context do you use it? I thought \emph took care of ithat. JMarc

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 10:31 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > "Jürgen" == Jürgen Spitzmüller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> \/ - we should have support for this > Jürgen> Totally agreed. > In what context do you use it? I thought \emph took care of ithat. I use it to produce correct

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to allow | Lars> definitions of insets in the layout files. It should suffice to | Lars> be able to run lfuns from

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: | | I think \emph has nothing to do here (?) no, ... only with italic correction. -- Lgb

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
> > Then I opt to not have a "LaTeX" style at all, and stay with the > compability convertion and a "Insert ERT" button. > > The only reason I have for proposing the altered "LaTeX Layout" at all > is to have it working in a similar way as before, but it is not really > needed. How about

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Lars> the solution is still simple. And now we do not need to Lars> allow | Lars> definitions

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > Then I opt to not have a "LaTeX" style at all, and stay with the | > compability convertion and a "Insert ERT" button. | > | > The only reason I have for proposing the altered "LaTeX Layout" at all | > is to have it working in a similar

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Lars> The only reason I have for proposing the altered "LaTeX Layout" > Lars> at all is to have it working in a similar way as before, but it > Lars> is not really needed. > > Howerver, we have to work out a reasonable

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jürgen Spitzmüller) writes: | | I think Lars> \emph has nothing to do here (?) Lars> no, ... only with italic correction. And \/ is exactly meant for italic correction (I guess this is what Lars alluded

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 11:56 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > And \/ is exactly meant for italic correction (I guess this is what > Lars alluded to). In fact, the right way to break an hyphentation is > \texcompwordmark{} (and probably a nifty "| or whatever in german > babel). In fact, I was

666

2001-07-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
Konni has just discovered the new "feature". It sounds as she does not like it... ... it still sound that way... What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? And what about the red color in math? Should I fake it simply by changing the color? Andre' -- André Pönitz

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Konni has just discovered the new "feature". It sounds as she Andre> does not like it... ... it still sound that way... Andre> What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? What about using the hyphenation special

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Andre> What about '\-' within words to specify hyphena(...)ion? > > What about using the hyphenation special inset for that? Convincing argument. And what about "= ? (with \documentclass[german...]{...}) > Andre> And what about the red color in math? > > Andre> Should I fake it simply

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Herbert Voss
Andre Poenitz wrote: > > Konni has just discovered the new "feature". > It sounds as she does not like it... > ... it still sound that way... greetings to her, because it's the same with me. i have a lot of texts with a lot of different tex-stuff and it's annoying with the new "feature" ...

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
e. > i have a lot of texts with a lot of different tex-stuff > and it's annoying with the new "feature" ... > > Herbert After trying this out extensively since yesterday I have to say: we are three now (the support of more insets shure makes it better, but I still think 666 is more "evil" than ERT). Jürgen

Re: 666

2001-07-10 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
nsively since yesterday I have to say: we are > three now (the support of more insets shure makes it better, but I > still think 666 is more "evil" than ERT). > > Jürgen Well, I still haven't made up my mind. I am still trying to get the Literate stuff worked out. Pros for t

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
R. Lahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Hi, | | I've just updated CVS (July 9th) and throughout the document | all inlined math equations have a grey box with [666] prefixed. | | I also have the [666] boxes around a TeX mbox inside a footnote. | | This bug must have been introduced during

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
' [around line 49 of file | /usr/share/lyx/bind/cua.bind] mm... yes I forgot to remove tex-mode from cua.bind. | MenuItem(): LyX command `tex-mode' does not exist. Not quite sure where this is comming from. | Also, there are some sinister [666] boxes all over the place. ;-) | | What changed? Mr. Evil

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Kayvan A. Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 11:24:32PM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: | Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: | | Hi folks, | | Also, there are some sinister [666] boxes all over the place. ;-) | | What changed? | The ChangeLogs? insets lib for clues

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: R. Lahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Hi, | | I've just updated CVS (July 9th) and throughout the document | all inlined math equations have a grey box with [666] prefixed. | | I also have the [666] boxes around a TeX

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:15:54AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: mm... yes I forgot to remove tex-mode from cua.bind. | MenuItem(): LyX command `tex-mode' does not exist. Not quite sure where this is comming from. | Also, there are some sinister [666] boxes all over the place

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:17:49AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | So how can I get Literate documents working again? So I gather that the scrap envir has (mis-)used (la)tex-mode as a write-through...? Yup. It's not a mis-use, though, IMO. -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
That is not a bug, it is a feature. tex-mode is dead. Long live '666' So what are people supposed not for their LaTeX bits in math e.g.? It currently displays as math text which is not exactly what people are used to... Andre' -- André Pönitz

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Kayvan A. Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | R. Lahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | Hi, | | | | I've just updated CVS (July 9th) and throughout the document | | all inlined math equations have a grey box with [666

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Kayvan A. Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:17:49AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | So how can I get Literate documents working again? | | So I gather that the scrap envir has (mis-)used (la)tex-mode as a | write-through...? | | Yup. It's not a mis-use,

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | That is not a bug, it is a feature. | | tex-mode is dead. Long live '666' | | So what are people supposed not for their LaTeX bits in math e.g.? | | It currently displays as math text which is not exactly what people are | used to... all text

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Kayvan == Kayvan A Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kayvan On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:17:49AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes Kayvan wrote: | So how can I get Literate documents working again? So I gather that the scrap envir has (mis-)used (la)tex-mode as a write-through...? Kayvan Yup. It's

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:34:22AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | Great. How about the Scraps that use TeX mode? Where's the solution | for that? I am thinking about it... - easiest solution is to map all scrap envirs to '666', but that is not a nice solution. - second option

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:36:16AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Kayvan A. Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:17:49AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | So how can I get Literate documents working again? | | So I gather that the scrap envir has

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Kayvan A. Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:34:22AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | Great. How about the Scraps that use TeX mode? Where's the solution | | for that? | | I am thinking about it... | | - easiest solution is to map all scrap envirs to '666

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:42:12AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: It *is* a mis-use. It would be better to have some kind of 'Verbatim' layout property (which is obviously not a font property). Yes, that would be better. Let's do it! ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A.

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Kayvan == Kayvan A Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Kayvan On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:17:49AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes | Kayvan wrote: | | So how can I get Literate documents working again? | | So I gather that the scrap envir has

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
| So what are people supposed not for their LaTeX bits in math e.g.? | | It currently displays as math text which is not exactly what people are | used to... all text in 'tex-mode' should be in an inset. For all other places than mathed this is '666', do mathed need a new mathinset

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
thinking about it... | | - easiest solution is to map all scrap envirs to '666', but that is not | a nice solution. | | - second option is to enhance the layout format a bit so that scrap | automatically inserts a '666' box with a 'scrap' label. | | I like the second solution better

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
mathed this is '666', do mathed need a new mathinset to | accommodate this? | | From what I understand, until now tex-mode in mathed only was some kind of | 'Character layout' that was used to | a) display the stuff in red and | b) to prepend a backslash when exporting to LaTeX. | | I think

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
? Where's the solution | | | for that? | | | | I am thinking about it... | | | | - easiest solution is to map all scrap envirs to '666', but that is not | | a nice solution. | | | | - second option is to enhance the layout format a bit so that scrap | | automatically inserts a '666

Re: LyX CVS problems: Literate documents don't work and [666] boxes.

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
do it! But then you are in the realm of special casing again... with the '666' change we only remove code so that the core of LyX gets cleaner and easier to understand... Also inline-'666' and display-'666' is now the same as uses all the same constructs. This is a win also. -- Lgb

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 10:12:06AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | the label name. | In the layout format we need to be able to give a lfun to run when | selected (you won't easily be able to move away from this envir | though). | | ert-insert scrap | | and when called from

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
_if_ mathed tex-mode uses the lyxfont::latex then it must go at once. It mathed tex-mode is _not_ using it, it can be allowed back in. Can you snoop around and see what the state is? It uses f.setLatex(LyXFont::ON) which looks like the thing you want to ban, but I thing it would be

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: That is not a bug, it is a feature. tex-mode is dead. Long live '666' I have to say that I don't like it. For example, suppose I want to have \foo{$x$}. Previously, I could do ctrl+l \foo{ ctrl+m x escape } ctrl+l Now, I

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
On Monday, 9. July 2001 09:13, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: tex-mode is dead. Long live '666' This made me so curious that I downloaded and installed CVS for the first time... I really like the new ERT (sorry: 666) Inset, but as I mentioned in an earlier message, its major disadavantage

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Dekel Tsur wrote: I have to say that I don't like it. For example, suppose I want to have \foo{$x$}. As said in my earlier mail this is really easy to realize! 1. When the inset is closed, the label is the first few char of the inset contents. 2. When the inset is opened

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: I really like the new ERT (sorry: 666) Inset, but as I mentioned in an The 666 was one decicion on the developers meeting (just as the removal of the LaTeX-font-attribute)! earlier message, its major disadavantage are the small LaTeX-commands

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:15, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: \, - should be supported in LyX Totally agreed! See my mail from June 26 for this (http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg23855.html) '\ ' - I thought we already supported this somehwo IMHO not. Only ~ (protected

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 09:13:35AM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | That is not a bug, it is a feature. | | tex-mode is dead. Long live '666' | | I have to say that I don't like it. Why? Because you cannot use LyX as an tex-editor as easily anymore

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:03, Juergen Vigna wrote: The 666 was one decicion on the developers meeting (just as the removal of the LaTeX-font-attribute)! And of course I do accept your decision! I'm not requesting something, I only try to help you by providing you a different view: human

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:03, Juergen Vigna wrote: The 666 was one decicion on the developers meeting (just as the removal of the LaTeX-font-attribute)! And of course I do accept your decision! I'm not requesting something, I only try to help

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I am not sure if that is really good. What people use micor-ert for today most often something that we really should have direct support for in LyX. Well but we don't and probably won't be able to do so for a long time. So IMO it's easy to realize

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 09-Jul-2001 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: bad example since you are trying to use mathed in side a tex-mode... this was never supposed to word and did so only by chance. And it will crash right now :). I'll commit a change soon which will fix this! BTW.: I completely agree with Lars here. Or

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On 09-Jul-2001 Andre Poenitz wrote: | We REALLY don't want a frustrated Lgb! #:O) | | We don't really want frustrated users either. | | Well you surely not, I can understand that! #:OP But it is a little bit moot to begin talking about frustrated

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:58:53PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: On Monday, 9. July 2001 12:15, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: \, - should be supported in LyX Totally agreed! See my mail from June 26 for this (http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg23855.html) We also need

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:27:05PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: LyX is not an tex-editor, and using tex-mode has always been: The user is now on his own. Several users (and developers) have taken advantage and misused tex-mode for different purposes (float placemnet f.ex.) I don't want

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Why? | The ability to mix lyx insets with latex code like the above is a great | feature of LyX. Just because you doesn't use doesn't mean that it shouldn't | be supported anymore. It has never been supported, it has just happened to work by chance. And

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Why? | The ability to mix lyx insets with latex code like the above is a great | feature of LyX. Just because you doesn't use doesn't mean that it shouldn't | be supported anymore.

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:08:03PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | Why? | | The ability to mix lyx insets with latex code like the above is a great | | feature of LyX. Just because you doesn't use doesn't

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Eran Tromer
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: rather a problem with how we place the error boxes. You mean, all over the place? Even in the absence of floats or large insets, errors sometime show up a few pages too early, and sometimes *in the the wrong order*. Plus their dialog box doesn't give enough context

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 07:03:19PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: Well no IMO this can not be resolved in an automatic manner (just to much overhead, but we can have this as an option in the InsetERT. We may also remove the drawing of the label in the inlined version, if that is desiderable.

Re: [666] grey-boxes around inlined math

2001-07-09 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:45:02PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | It does make sense if you want to have indented latex code. What I'd really like to have it some kind of editor inset that the InsetERT could build upon instead of the InsetText that is a lot more complicated than what

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