Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-06 Thread Daniel
On 03/04/2019 18:46, Jürgen Womser-Schütz wrote: Am 03.04.2019 um 16:57 schrieb Daniel: On 03/04/2019 15:05, Jürgen Womser-Schütz wrote: MikTex itself provides a nice description for the installing procedure on Windows: https://miktex.org/howto/install-miktex LyX-users should take account of

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Womser-Schütz
Am 03.04.2019 um 16:57 schrieb Daniel: > On 03/04/2019 15:05, Jürgen Womser-Schütz wrote: >> MikTex itself provides a nice description for the installing procedure >> on Windows: https://miktex.org/howto/install-miktex >> LyX-users should take account of only one setting:  "Install missing >>

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 03/04/2019 à 16:57, Daniel a écrit : On 03/04/2019 15:05, Jürgen Womser-Schütz wrote: MikTex itself provides a nice description for the installing procedure on Windows: https://miktex.org/howto/install-miktex LyX-users should take account of only one setting:  "Install missing packages

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-03 Thread Daniel
On 03/04/2019 15:05, Jürgen Womser-Schütz wrote: MikTex itself provides a nice description for the installing procedure on Windows: https://miktex.org/howto/install-miktex LyX-users should take account of only one setting:  "Install missing packages on-the-fly" should be set to "Always". Why

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-03 Thread Jürgen Womser-Schütz
> Richard Kimberly Heck Tue, 02 Apr 2019 10:02:05 -0700 > >On 4/2/19 11:05 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Le 02/04/2019 à 16:53, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : A solution would be to point people to a nicely crafted page explaining what needs to be installed and what the choices

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-02 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/2/19 11:05 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 02/04/2019 à 16:53, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : >>> A solution would be to point people to a nicely crafted page >>> explaining what needs to be installed and what the choices are. >> >> You mean like this? >> >>

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 02/04/2019 à 16:53, Richard Kimberly Heck a écrit : A solution would be to point people to a nicely crafted page explaining what needs to be installed and what the choices are. You mean like this? https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive Yes :) I admit I did not know it. Does the installer

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-02 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/2/19 5:29 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 01/04/2019 à 23:21, Jürgen Womser-Schütz a écrit : >> I am a newbie in this discussion. >> >> But what's about the idea to build a windows installer which gives the >> user the possibility to choose between MikTex and TexLive? >> I am not sure to

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 01/04/2019 à 23:21, Jürgen Womser-Schütz a écrit : I am a newbie in this discussion. But what's about the idea to build a windows installer which gives the user the possibility to choose between MikTex and TexLive? I am not sure to be right, but both seems to be functional (after the MikTex

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-01 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/1/19 5:21 PM, Jürgen Womser-Schütz wrote: > I am a newbie in this discussion. > > But what's about the idea to build a windows installer which gives the > user the possibility to choose between MikTex and TexLive? > I am not sure to be right, but both seems to be functional (after the >

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-01 Thread Jürgen Womser-Schütz
I am a newbie in this discussion. But what's about the idea to build a windows installer which gives the user the possibility to choose between MikTex and TexLive? I am not sure to be right, but both seems to be functional (after the MikTex problems are now solved)? Maybe this would be the best

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-01 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 01:37:58PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > I forgot to say that it hurt me a lot to hear that after more than 10 > years contributing to LyX on Windows my expertise count nothing. So all > my countless hours of work were for nothing with the state we currently > have. It does

Re: about the Win installer

2019-04-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
On 01.04.2019 02:29, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 26.03.2019 um 21:03 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > > Why is this insulting? If you can't understand that, then there's nothing anyone can do to help you. I forgot to say that it hurt me a lot to hear that after more than 10 years contributing to

Re: about the Win installer

2019-03-31 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 26.03.2019 um 21:03 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > > Why is this insulting? > > If you can't understand that, then there's nothing anyone can do to help you. I think I made clear what I meant, if you are insulted by any criticism then I can't help you. But you never asked me for help but

Re: about the Win installer

2019-03-26 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 3/26/19 11:32 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > On 26.03.2019 03:55, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > >> It has been said before, but I'll say it again: It's insulting for those >> of us who put in as much time on LyX development as we do to be told >> that we don't care about the needs of average users and

Re: about the Win installer

2019-03-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
On 26.03.2019 03:55, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: That has not been true for a while now. It is very much not true now that we've shifted lyx.org to a much more reliable server. Every server can stop working. Therefore having mirror is always a good idea. It has been said before, but I'll

Re: about the Win installer

2019-03-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Le 26/03/2019 à 03:22, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : But that is my main problem with LyX - the development focus on developers needs, not on the needs of average users. Average users don't need a dozen more expert features every release but a better workflow allowing them to write more in shorter time,

Re: about the Win installer

2019-03-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 26/03/2019 à 03:22, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Am 11.02.2019 um 06:10 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: Yes, we decided no longer to offer a bundled installer. That was a decision we made as a group. My point of view is: A group of non-Windows developers (at least not on a daily basis) and with

Re: about the Win installer

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 3/25/19 10:22 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 11.02.2019 um 06:10 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > >> Yes, we decided no longer to offer a bundled installer. That was a >> decision we made as a group. > > My point of view is: A group of non-Windows developers (at least not on > a daily basis) and

Re: about the Win installer

2019-03-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 11.02.2019 um 06:10 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: Yes, we decided no longer to offer a bundled installer. That was a decision we made as a group. My point of view is: A group of non-Windows developers (at least not on a daily basis) and with lots of background knowledge made a decision

Re: about the Win installer

2019-02-28 Thread Uwe Stöhr
On 28.02.2019 08:38, Scott Kostyshak wrote: I confirm that after updating TL 2018, I can now compile the Embedded Objects manual. Uwe let me know that the bug was in arydshln 1.75 and since last weekend the new version 1.76 of this package is available where the bug is fixed. For the records:

Re: about the Win installer

2019-02-27 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 09:30:37PM -0500, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 01:53:18AM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > > A minor issue is that the EmbeddedObjects manual can currently not be > > compiled because of a bug in a LaTeX package. I reported this already. > > Thanks for

Re: about the Win installer

2019-02-10 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 2/10/19 7:53 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Now the controversial part: > In the installer I see that you removed support for MiKTeX. You require > now that the users have enough knowledge to set up MiKTeX in advance > before installing MiKTeX. This is not the case, especially not for > newbies.

Re: about the Win installer

2019-02-10 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 01:53:18AM +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > A minor issue is that the EmbeddedObjects manual can currently not be > compiled because of a bug in a LaTeX package. I reported this already. Thanks for reporting it! Where did you report it, so that I can follow? I saw this problem