On 2017-01-07, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 07.01.2017, 18:40 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
>> If you are ready to alter the style combo-box temporarily, then two
>> pairs of bindings should be enough too, isn't it?
> No. Because I can alter the combo box to more than two values
Am Samstag, den 07.01.2017, 19:58 +0100 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> > I tested the latest GUI-related commit and I have a bug to report.
> > Create a new document, Language: French, Quotes style: language
> > default.
> > Close and reopen the properties. Then instead of language default,
> >
Am Samstag, den 07.01.2017, 18:40 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
> If you are ready to alter the style combo-box temporarily, then two
> pairs of bindings should be enough too, isn't it?
No. Because I can alter the combo box to more than two values
temporarily.
> The only thing that
> still
Le 05/01/2017 à 06:39, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 23:27 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
There I do not follow anymore: if without the checkbox you would need
12
key bindings, how is the checkbox helping? Or do you mean that even
the
checkbox does not address your
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 14:14 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> A few comments on the UI:
Please check out recent master.
Jürgen
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Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 23:27 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
> There I do not follow anymore: if without the checkbox you would need
> 12
> key bindings, how is the checkbox helping? Or do you mean that even
> the
> checkbox does not address your needs?
Well, it is easier to alter the
Le 04/01/2017 à 17:54, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
Let me rephrase: This is style-dependent. Some styles require you to
use "foreign" quotes for all foreign text, some for "whole sentences".
Most German style sheets I know, however, require you to use the same
quotation marks (of the matrix
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 17:12 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
> What is so bad about this document setting? Two things:
>
> * If I check dynamic quotes, then it behaves in an unfriendly way
> inside foreign language: it becomes hard to insert foreign
> language
> quotes inside foreign
Le 04/01/2017 à 15:42, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 15:02 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
Starting with the important point:
So, here are two suggestions for improving dynamic quotes, good
enough (AFAIU) to be a default behaviour, sparing the need for a
document
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 16:34 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> This is an interesting point actually. In an ideal world, I'd like an
> UI
> which is not intimidating to people who just want, well, quotes, but
> which can additionally cater for the needs of typography die-hards.
The
Le 04/01/2017 à 16:19, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
> Except if you need to change from French "vernacular" quotation style
> to the French Imprimerie Nationale style
This is an interesting point actually. In an ideal world, I'd like an UI
which is not intimidating to people who just want,
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 15:45 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> I see. I probably do not need dynamic quotes, then :)
Except if you need to change from French "vernacular" quotation style
to the French Imprimérie Nationale style ;-)
> The way I saw it was:
> 1/ there is a default style
Le 04/01/2017 à 15:31, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
Again, this is a separate feature. Dynamic quotes, on the contrary, is
strong if letting you quickly change between different styles of a
given language (such as ,,this``and >>this<< both current in German).
I see. I probably do not need
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 15:02 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
> But for dynamic quotes you wrote:
>
> > There is even the need for dynamic and static quotes within the
> > same
> > document.
>
> which the document setting does not address, but additional LFUN
> bindings (default or custom)
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 14:47 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> This is not what I meant. Rather "Language default" that auto, if
> you
> prefer.
> If we use this setting then the quote type changes with document
> language, but if we set a given one, it will not change with
> document
Le 04/01/2017 à 14:23, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 13:52 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
I find too that the above does not make the case for a new document
setting that changes the default behaviour of a LFUN.
Note that the quote document setting has done that
Le 04/01/2017 à 14:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
to the language. I understand that the second menu changes with
language, but this is not intuitive IMO. I'd prefer a line
Auto («outer» and "inner")
that shows better what is happening.
This is an unimplemented and orthogonal feature,
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 14:14 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
> A few comments on the UI:
>
> * concerning the dialog: there is something that I miss in this
> dialog,
> but I have difficulties to express what it is. First, I think there
> should be a Auto setting for quote types,
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 13:52 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch:
> I find too that the above does not make the case for a new document
> setting that changes the default behaviour of a LFUN.
Note that the quote document setting has done that since always.
> > > Also note that an LFUN change is
I come late into this thread, which I kind of neglected (shame on me!).
A few comments below.
Le 04/01/2017 à 13:41, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit :
Yes, this is why we need static quotes (or just a convenient way to
insert
Unicode quote characters) besides the "dynamic" quotes.
Indeed. And no,
Le 01/01/2017 à 18:29, Guenter Milde a écrit :
On 2016-12-31, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Is there a use case for the document specific setting?
(I.e. is there someone in need for one keybinding inserting "dynamic"
quote insets in one document but "static" quote insets in another
document?)
Am Sonntag, den 01.01.2017, 17:29 + schrieb Guenter Milde:
> > There is even the need for dynamic and static quotes within the
> > same
> > document. If I need different quote styles within one document
> > (e.g.,
> > English style within English quotations within a German document),
> > I
> >
On 2016-12-31, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 30.12.2016, 22:39 + schrieb Guenter Milde:
>> Currently, there are two ways to activate a keybinding for inserting
>> "dynamic" quote insets:
>> a) add or change a keybinding in Tools>Preferences>Editing>Shortcuts
>> b) change the
Am Freitag, den 30.12.2016, 22:39 + schrieb Guenter Milde:
> Currently, there are two ways to activate a keybinding for inserting
> "dynamic" quote insets:
>
> a) add or change a keybinding in Tools>Preferences>Editing>Shortcuts
>
> b) change the default behaviour of the "quote-insert" LFUN
Le 30/12/2016 à 23:39, Guenter Milde a écrit :
Dear Jürgen, dear LyX developers,
I am glad to see the "dynamic quotes" and optional arguments to the
quote-insert LFUN are implemented. Now,
M-x quote-insert * * dynamic
inserts a quote-inset that
* is rendered blue in the GUI, so we can see
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