Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> | | Lars> | Lars> Ok, I have created RH 8.

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:30:56PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> | >> | Lars> Ok, I have created RH 8.0 rpms from this. >

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-16 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:30:56PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > | Lars> Ok, I have created RH 8.0 rpms from this. > | > | Lars> If any interest I'll put that on ftp

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> | Lars> | Lars> Ok, I have created RH 8.0 rpms from this. Lars> | Lars> | Lars> If any interest I'l

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-16 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Ok, I have created RH 8.0 rpms from this. | | Lars> If any interest I'll put that on ftp. | | Will rh8 rpms work on rh7 also? Since rpms should be independent from | the

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-16 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Ok, I have created RH 8.0 rpms from this. Lars> If any interest I'll put that on ftp. Will rh8 rpms work on rh7 also? Since rpms should be independent from the gcc version (no c++), we should distribute only one version of the

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-14 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Ronny Buchmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2002 13:13 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: | > Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:01, Angus Leeming wrote: | > >> Ok, it's out. | > >> | > >> Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.8

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Ronny Buchmann
Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2002 13:13 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:01, Angus Leeming wrote: > >> Ok, it's out. > >> > >> Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX 1.3? > | > | I would say that it needs to go, b

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Stephan Witt
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Stephan" == Stephan Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephan> Yesterday I tried to compile 1.0-release on my solaris Stephan> machine. I can't say it compiles out of the box, but the Stephan> problems where solveable. But I didn't try to install the Stephan> shared

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> IMHO we should let 0.88 go now, and wait a short while into the | Lars> freeze period before we make final decision on 0.89. (currently | Lars> I am inclined to keep 0.89 f

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Tuesday 10 December 2002 11:15 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | | > | Lars> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok,

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> IMHO we should let 0.88 go now, and wait a short while into the Lars> freeze period before we make final decision on 0.89. (currently Lars> I am inclined to keep 0.89 for 1.3.0) Agreed. Is there special code for 0.89 vs 1.0? J

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 11:15 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > | Lars> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok, it's out. > | Lars> | > | Lars> | Are we going to kee

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok, it's out. | Lars> | | Lars> | Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX | Lars> 1.3? | | Lars> _I_ woul

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:51 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Angus> On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:15 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes > > Angus> wrote: > >> But it does the compose key preprocessing first. > > Angus> Not totally true. I

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:15 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Angus> wrote: >> But it does the compose key preprocessing first. Angus> Not totally true. It passes all FL_KEYPRESS events to the Angus> XWorkArea handler. It just so happ

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:15 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > But it does the compose key preprocessing first. Not totally true. It passes all FL_KEYPRESS events to the XWorkArea handler. It just so happens that during composition the passed "key" is null. That's why this can be made to wo

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> On Tuesday 10 December 2002 9:57 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Angus> wrote: >> > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Lars> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok, it's out. Lars> | Lars> | Are we go

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 11:07:10AM +0100, Juergen Vigna wrote: > >So what was the final decision on this? I think we should get rid of > >0.88 now, since it is the most problematic. Note however that this > >will cause problems for people who use solaris and for cjk-lyx, > >because of shortcomings

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 10:07 am, Juergen Vigna wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > So what was the final decision on this? I think we should get rid of > > 0.88 now, since it is the most problematic. Note however that this > > will cause problems for people who use solaris and for cjk-lyx

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Angus Leeming
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 9:57 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Lars> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok, it's out. > Lars> | > Lars> | Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX > Lars> 1.3? > > La

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Stephan" == Stephan Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stephan> Yesterday I tried to compile 1.0-release on my solaris Stephan> machine. I can't say it compiles out of the box, but the Stephan> problems where solveable. But I didn't try to install the Stephan> shared libs, because of the susp

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Juergen Vigna
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: So what was the final decision on this? I think we should get rid of 0.88 now, since it is the most problematic. Note however that this will cause problems for people who use solaris and for cjk-lyx, because of shortcomings ion xforms support for input methods. But thi

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Stephan Witt
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok, it's out. Lars> | Lars> | Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX Lars> 1.3? Lars> _I_ would like us to ditch support for 0.88 and

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok, it's out. Lars> | Lars> | Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX Lars> 1.3? Lars> _I_ would like us to ditch support for 0.88 and 0.89 at once, Lars> especi

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-10 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 09 December 2002 7:20 pm, John Levon wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:20:15AM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > > How about this as a hacked-together first-stab at an announcement. It > > sort of > > here's the state of the next LDN as it is : > http://compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/www-user/news/

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:20:15AM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > How about this as a hacked-together first-stab at an announcement. It sort of here's the state of the next LDN as it is : http://compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/www-user/news/ I can certainly modify that as needs be john -- "Saying that

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread John Levon
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:55:04AM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > The most commonly reported xforms bug of the last few months has been crashes > in the xforms xpm image loader due to its fragile handling of weird > ImageMagik-generated xpm color tables. Ditching support for xforms 0.88 would >

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:48:06AM -0400, Garst R. Reese wrote: > Why not release 1.3.0 and 1.4.0 at the same time, with the caveats that > 1.3.0 will not be supported and 1.4.0 does not support 0.88 and 0.89. > You need not answer if this is too stupid to be believed. This would not really remove

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 09 December 2002 12:38 pm, Kornel Benko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Montag, 9. Dezember 2002 12:29, José Matos wrote: > > On Monday 09 December 2002 11:20, Angus Leeming wrote: > > > We are happy to announce the release of the GPL-licensed, version 1.0 > > > of > >

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Greg Hosler
On 09-Dec-2002 Angus Leeming wrote: > On Monday 09 December 2002 12:12 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:29:19AM +, José Matos wrote: >> > Kayvan has rpms for 1.0RC5.2, the spec file can be used unchanged for >> > 1.0.0. This is gives both binary and source code rpm. Thi

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Monday 09 December 2002 12:12 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:29:19AM +, José Matos wrote: >> > Kayvan has rpms for 1.0RC5.2, the spec file can be used unchanged for >> > 1.0.0. This is gives both binary and source code rp

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Kornel Benko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Montag, 9. Dezember 2002 12:29, José Matos wrote: > On Monday 09 December 2002 11:20, Angus Leeming wrote: > > We are happy to announce the release of the GPL-licensed, version 1.0 of > > The licence is LGPL IIRC. > > [...] > > > Get the xforms src distro at

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread José Matos
On Monday 09 December 2002 12:12, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:29:19AM +, José Matos wrote: > > Kayvan has rpms for 1.0RC5.2, the spec file can be used unchanged for > > 1.0.0. This is gives both binary and source code rpm. This will cover > > all systems based on rpms. >

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 09 December 2002 12:12 pm, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:29:19AM +, José Matos wrote: > > Kayvan has rpms for 1.0RC5.2, the spec file can be used unchanged for > > 1.0.0. This is gives both binary and source code rpm. This will cover > > all systems based on rpms

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:29:19AM +, José Matos wrote: > Kayvan has rpms for 1.0RC5.2, the spec file can be used unchanged for > 1.0.0. This is gives both binary and source code rpm. This will cover > all systems based on rpms. Where do I get this spec file? Andre' -- Those who desire to

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:01, Angus Leeming wrote: >> Ok, it's out. >> >> Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX 1.3? > | I would say that it needs to go, but maybe hold off until binary | distributions of xforms1.0 are available.

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 09 December 2002 11:29 am, José Matos wrote: > The licence is LGPL IIRC. > Kayvan has rpms for 1.0RC5.2, the spec file can be used unchanged for > 1.0.0. This is gives both binary and source code rpm. This will cover all > systems based on rpms. Thanks, José. It starts to read a li

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Darren Freeman
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 21:01, Angus Leeming wrote: > Ok, it's out. > > Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX 1.3? I would say that it needs to go, but maybe hold off until binary distributions of xforms1.0 are available. I for one never got the source to compile, and would l

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread José Matos
On Monday 09 December 2002 11:20, Angus Leeming wrote: > > We are happy to announce the release of the GPL-licensed, version 1.0 of The licence is LGPL IIRC. [...] > Get the xforms src distro at > > ftp://ncmir.ucsd.edu/pub/xforms/OpenSource/xforms-1.0-release.tgz > > Binary distros for L

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 09 December 2002 10:52 am, José Matos wrote: > The idea is to get the word spread before the change. That will get some > time for people to prepare the transition. How about this as a hacked-together first-stab at an announcement. It sort of tails off towards the end, but I'm expectin

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread José Matos
On Monday 09 December 2002 10:38, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > It would be nice if we could find some kind of consensus on this one. > > I am using 0.89.6 but I won't mind upgrading to 1.0. > > Installing xforms is not too hard and could be done by the "average power > user". So I am leaning a bit to

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Angus Leeming
On Monday 09 December 2002 10:38 am, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:28:31AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > | Ok, it's out. > > | > > | Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX 1.3? > > > > _I_ would like us to ditch support for 0.88 and 0.89 at once, >

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 11:28:31AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | Ok, it's out. > | > | Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX 1.3? > > _I_ would like us to ditch support for 0.88 and 0.89 at once, > especially 0.88. > > But, at least in an interim period, this will

Re: xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok, it's out. | | Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX 1.3? _I_ would like us to ditch support for 0.88 and 0.89 at once, especially 0.88. But, at least in an interim period, this will mean a lot of hassle for a lot of people.

xforms 1.0 final released

2002-12-09 Thread Angus Leeming
Ok, it's out. Are we going to keep support for xforms 0.88 and 0.89 in LyX 1.3? Are we going to force people to upgrade in the 1.4 cycle (and get rid of * the xpm image loader * all those #ifdef (FL_VERSION < 1) etc statements. I guess that the COPYING notice should now change to reflect GPL xfo