Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 12.03.2012 20:40, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Especially in your installer, you change MikTeX's setting, which is just rude and forces me to wait. I explained several times in detail why this is the best solution ... Yes, but I find it unethical. I choose to set MikTeX to Ask me and

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 12.03.2012 20:40, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Especially in your installer, you change MikTeX's setting, which is just rude and forces me to wait. I explained several times in detail why this is the best solution ... Yes, but I find it unethical. I choose to set MikTeX to "Ask me"

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Especially in your installer, you change MikTeX's setting, which is just rude and forces me to wait. I explained several times in detail why this is the best solution ... Yes, but I find it unethical. I choose to set MikTeX to Ask me and you just override this. Tomorrow you decide to

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Especially in your installer, you change MikTeX's setting, which is just rude and forces me to wait. I explained several times in detail why this is the best solution ... Yes, but I find it unethical. I choose to set MikTeX to "Ask me" and you just override this. Tomorrow you decide to

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 29.02.2012 08:15, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Yes, and I want the installer to ask me: Do you really want to wait ? Or do you want to install the packages on the fly when needed ? This is not that easy to implement. However, note that the bundle installer is designed for new

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 01.03.2012 05:33, schrieb Paul Johnson: I think you are missing the point that in MikTeX it is a KNOWN bug that the ASK option is broken and it fails to make the menu pop up and ask the user about the packages. Thus, the only way (according to the MikTeX folks) is to use YES or NO on the

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 01.03.2012 07:18, schrieb Paul Johnson: Sorry to write again before waiting for you to answer. I could not sleep, so decided to try the LyX-2.0.2-4 installs in the lab systems. This time I tried several variations. I have ALL SUCCESS to report on the Lyx Installer-2.0.2-4, but still a

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Op 3-3-2012 14:31, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 29.02.2012 08:15, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Yes, and I want the installer to ask me: Do you really want to wait ? Or do you want to install the packages on the fly when needed ? This is not that easy to implement. However, note that the bundle

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 03.03.2012 14:50, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: I didn't mention the bundle installer. But this problem only occurs for new installations and thus only with the bundle installer. All this doesn't answer my question why we can't have the user decide what he wants to do. Because

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 29.02.2012 08:15, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Yes, and I want the installer to ask me: "Do you really want to wait ? Or do you want to install the packages on the fly when needed ?" This is not that easy to implement. However, note that the bundle installer is designed for new

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 01.03.2012 05:33, schrieb Paul Johnson: I think you are missing the point that in MikTeX it is a KNOWN bug that the ASK option is broken and it fails to make the menu pop up and ask the user about the packages. Thus, the only way (according to the MikTeX folks) is to use YES or NO on the

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 01.03.2012 07:18, schrieb Paul Johnson: Sorry to write again before waiting for you to answer. I could not sleep, so decided to try the LyX-2.0.2-4 installs in the lab systems. This time I tried several variations. I have ALL SUCCESS to report on the Lyx Installer-2.0.2-4, but still a

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Op 3-3-2012 14:31, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 29.02.2012 08:15, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Yes, and I want the installer to ask me: "Do you really want to wait ? Or do you want to install the packages on the fly when needed ?" This is not that easy to implement. However, note that the

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 03.03.2012 14:50, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: I didn't mention the bundle installer. But this problem only occurs for new installations and thus only with the bundle installer. All this doesn't answer my question why we can't have the user decide what he wants to do. Because

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

I still don't understand why we can't have Miktex to ask to install a package when needed ? At least we can ask the user if he wants to install all possible packages and wait half an hour. So many people are put off by having to wait so long the first time they try LyX. Dear Vincent: I

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote: I think you are missing the point that in MikTeX it is a KNOWN bug that the ASK option is broken and it fails to make the menu pop up and ask the user about the packages. I didn't know that. It works perfectly for

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

I still don't understand why we can't have Miktex to ask to install a package when needed ? At least we can ask the user if he wants to install all possible packages and wait half an hour. So many people are put off by having to wait so long the first time they try LyX. Dear Vincent: I

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > >> I think you are missing the point that in MikTeX it is a KNOWN bug >> that the ASK option is broken and it fails to make the menu pop up and >> ask the user about the packages. > > > I didn't know that. It works

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote: The LyX windows installer SHOULD set the MikTex package install on the fly option to NO, No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and their LyX could not provide all its features.

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: Am 20.02.2012 03:22, schrieb Paul Johnson: No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and their LyX could not provide all its features. In my case, it hangs checking for dvilualatex. This

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > >>> The LyX windows installer SHOULD set the MikTex package install "on >>> the fly" option to NO, >> >> >> No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation >> and their LyX could not provide

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 20.02.2012 03:22, schrieb Paul Johnson: > > No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and > their LyX could not provide all its features. > > >> In my case, it hangs checking for "dvilualatex".

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

The LyX windows installer SHOULD set the MikTex package install on the fly option to NO, No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and their LyX could not provide all its features. I still don't understand why we can't have Miktex to ask to install a package

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 28.02.2012 18:03, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and their LyX could not provide all its features. I still don't understand why we can't have Miktex to ask to install a package when needed ? We do. But we could

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

At least we can ask the user if he wants to install all possible packages and wait half an hour. But the installer is already telling you that it can take a long time. You can also see the install progress in the installer. Yes, and I want the installer to ask me: Do you really want to

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

> The LyX windows installer SHOULD set the MikTex package install "on >> the fly" option to NO, >> > > No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation > and their LyX could not provide all its features. > I still don't understand why we can't have Miktex to ask to install

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 28.02.2012 18:03, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and their LyX could not provide all its features. I still don't understand why we can't have Miktex to ask to install a package when needed ? We do. But we could

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

At least we can ask the user if he wants to install all possible packages and wait half an hour. But the installer is already telling you that it can take a long time. You can also see the install progress in the installer. Yes, and I want the installer to ask me: "Do you really want to

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 20.02.2012 03:22, schrieb Paul Johnson: The LyX windows installer SHOULD set the MikTex package install on the fly option to NO, No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and their LyX could not provide all its features. In my case, it hangs checking for

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Am 20.02.2012 03:22, schrieb Paul Johnson: The LyX windows installer SHOULD set the MikTex package install "on the fly" option to NO, No, because then new users would have an incomplete MiKTeX installation and their LyX could not provide all its features. In my case, it hangs checking for

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

I just ran another test. As the administrator, I set MikTeX to YES for install packaes on the fly. Then, working as a NON administrative user, I start LyX. LyX will start if there is a pre-existing valid configuration. However, running Reconfigure results in a bad situation. The

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

I just ran another test. As the administrator, I set MikTeX to YES for install packaes on the fly. Then, working as a NON administrative user, I start LyX. LyX will start if there is a pre-existing valid configuration. However, running Reconfigure results in a bad situation. The

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote: A LyX window does not appear on the screen, and Lyx does not appear as an application.  However, in the second tab,  one can see processes for LyxLauncher.exe and lyx.exe, and also processes for latex and mf-config

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >> A LyX window does not appear on the screen, and Lyx does not appear as >> an application.  However, in the second tab,  one can see processes >> for LyxLauncher.exe and lyx.exe, and also processes for latex and >>

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

A LyX window does not appear on the screen, and Lyx does not appear as an application. However, in the second tab, one can see processes for LyxLauncher.exe and lyx.exe, and also processes for latex and mf-config appear and disappear. LyX does not start, the processes stay stuck, but if you

Re: Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

A LyX window does not appear on the screen, and Lyx does not appear as an application. However, in the second tab, one can see processes for LyxLauncher.exe and lyx.exe, and also processes for latex and mf-config appear and disappear. LyX does not start, the processes stay "stuck", but if you

Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages on fly to NO, or else LyX won't run

Hi: I posted yesterday about the problem that LyX will not start on Windows 7 systems. I got no responses, but I've kept at it and I think I have a suggestion about the LyX installer. I don't know why these things go wrong the way they do, but I've replicated this problem/solution on 7 different

Windows Installer could use work: must set miktex packages "on fly" to NO, or else LyX won't run

Hi: I posted yesterday about the problem that LyX will not start on Windows 7 systems. I got no responses, but I've kept at it and I think I have a suggestion about the LyX installer. I don't know why these things go wrong the way they do, but I've replicated this problem/solution on 7 different