Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 01/01/2017 à 18:29, Guenter Milde a écrit : On 2016-12-31, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Is there a use case for the document specific setting? (I.e. is there someone in need for one keybinding inserting "dynamic" quote insets in one document but "static" quote insets in another document?)

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 01.01.2017, 17:29 + schrieb Guenter Milde: > > There is even the need for dynamic and static quotes within the > > same > > document. If I need different quote styles within one document > > (e.g., > > English style within English quotations within a German document), > > I > >

Re: [LyX/master] Add ability to use refstyle's plural and capitalization features.

2017-01-04 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 03/01/2017 à 04:40, Richard Heck a écrit : commit 73f59e87bd62e00bbfbceee59b8876aa59e75f58 Author: Richard Heck Date: Sat Jun 18 19:29:15 2016 -0400 Add ability to use refstyle's plural and capitalization features. --- lib/lyx2lyx/lyx_2_3.py| 67

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 04/01/2017 à 14:23, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 13:52 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: I find too that the above does not make the case for a new document setting that changes the default behaviour of a LFUN. Note that the quote document setting has done that

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 13:52 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: > I find too that the above does not make the case for a new document > setting that changes the default behaviour of a LFUN. Note that the quote document setting has done that since always. > > > Also note that an LFUN change is

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 14:14 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > A few comments on the UI: > > * concerning the dialog: there is something that I miss in this > dialog,  > but I have difficulties to express what it is. First, I think there  > should be a Auto setting for quote types,

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 04/01/2017 à 15:31, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Again, this is a separate feature. Dynamic quotes, on the contrary, is strong if letting you quickly change between different styles of a given language (such as ,,this``and >>this<< both current in German). I see. I probably do not need

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
I come late into this thread, which I kind of neglected (shame on me!). A few comments below. Le 04/01/2017 à 13:41, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Yes, this is why we need static quotes (or just a convenient way to insert Unicode quote characters) besides the "dynamic" quotes. Indeed. And no,

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 15:02 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: > But for dynamic quotes you wrote: > > > There is even the need for dynamic and static quotes within the > > same > > document. > > which the document setting does not address, but additional LFUN > bindings (default or custom)

Re: [LyX/master] TocWidget: fix an erroneous collapse and optimise updates based on profiling

2017-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 03/01/2017 à 21:53, Guillaume Munch a écrit : We can maybe measure how useful this cache is, and remove it if the difference is not important (which is probably the case). Removing the cached pointer requires some thinking as well, since CursorSlice has no way of finding the inset on its

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 04/01/2017 à 14:28, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : to the language. I understand that the second menu changes with language, but this is not intuitive IMO. I'd prefer a line Auto («outer» and "inner") that shows better what is happening. This is an unimplemented and orthogonal feature,

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 14:47 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > This is not what I meant. Rather "Language default" that auto, if > you  > prefer. > If we use this setting then the quote type changes with document  > language, but if we set a given one, it will not change with > document 

many lyx2lyx tests failing on master

2017-01-04 Thread Scott Kostyshak
For example, open de/Additional.lyx and export to LyX 2.2.x format. I get the following: Warning: An error ocurred in 525, Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/scott/lyxbuilds/master/repo/lib/lyx2lyx/lyx2lyx", line 96, in main() File

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 04/01/2017 à 17:54, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Let me rephrase: This is style-dependent. Some styles require you to use "foreign" quotes for all foreign text, some for "whole sentences". Most German style sheets I know, however, require you to use the same quotation marks (of the matrix

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 23:27 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: > There I do not follow anymore: if without the checkbox you would need > 12 > key bindings, how is the checkbox helping? Or do you mean that even > the > checkbox does not address your needs? Well, it is easier to alter the

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 16:34 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > This is an interesting point actually. In an ideal world, I'd like an > UI  > which is not intimidating to people who just want, well, quotes, but  > which can additionally cater for the needs of typography die-hards. The

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Guillaume Munch
Le 04/01/2017 à 15:42, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 15:02 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: Starting with the important point: So, here are two suggestions for improving dynamic quotes, good enough (AFAIU) to be a default behaviour, sparing the need for a document

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 15:45 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > I see. I probably do not need dynamic quotes, then :) Except if you need to change from French "vernacular" quotation style to the French Imprimérie Nationale style ;-) > The way I saw it was: > 1/ there is  a default style

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 04/01/2017 à 16:19, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : > Except if you need to change from French "vernacular" quotation style > to the French Imprimerie Nationale style This is an interesting point actually. In an ideal world, I'd like an UI which is not intimidating to people who just want,

Re: [LyX/master] Some tooltips.

2017-01-04 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2017 um 18:51:01, schrieb Richard Heck > commit e2ef07207e2a4f75a3a11c46f69098cf88ef6482 > Author: Richard Heck > Date: Wed Jan 4 12:50:51 2017 -0500 > > Some tooltips. > --- ... > > + > +Use capitalized form

Re: [LyX/master] Add ability to use refstyle's plural and capitalization features.

2017-01-04 Thread Richard Heck
On 01/04/2017 07:53 AM, Guillaume Munch wrote: > Le 03/01/2017 à 04:40, Richard Heck a écrit : >> commit 73f59e87bd62e00bbfbceee59b8876aa59e75f58 >> Author: Richard Heck >> Date: Sat Jun 18 19:29:15 2016 -0400 >> >> Add ability to use refstyle's plural and capitalization

Re: dynamic quotes

2017-01-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2017, 17:12 +0100 schrieb Guillaume Munch: > What is so bad about this document setting? Two things: > > * If I check dynamic quotes, then it behaves in an unfriendly way >    inside foreign language: it becomes hard to insert foreign > language >    quotes inside foreign

Re: [LyX/master] Some tooltips.

2017-01-04 Thread Richard Heck
On 01/04/2017 01:50 PM, Kornel Benko wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2017 um 18:51:01, schrieb Richard Heck >> commit e2ef07207e2a4f75a3a11c46f69098cf88ef6482 >> Author: Richard Heck >> Date: Wed Jan 4 12:50:51 2017 -0500 >> >> Some tooltips. >> --- > ... >>

Re: master fails to compile with Qt 5.8dev

2017-01-04 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 01:40:12PM -0500, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 07:23:53PM +0100, Guillaume Munch wrote: > > I am not sure, but it is fixed LyX-wise at 6d375dde. > > Thanks. I'll try again in a couple of weeks (traveling now). Tested and works well now. Thanks! Scott