Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieb Rob Oakes: Rob, those links are very helpful and clarifying things which are not obvious to the novice! Wolfgang http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/02/custom-lyx-nih http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/14/customize-lyx-character-sty

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread José Matos
On 12/11/2012 09:29 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieb Rob Oakes: Rob, those links are very helpful and clarifying things which are not obvious to the novice! Wolfgang If other doubts arrive (probability ~= 1) do not hesitate to use this list. Now

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Rob Oakes
Hi Wolfgang, I'm glad they were helpful: On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 10:36 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieben Sie: Hi, Rob, has this been done already: TeXLive 2009 is included with Ubuntu 10.04, if you are able to update your Linux

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... The reason

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Gregory Jefferis wrote: Returning to the original question of merging + VCS, we currently use git + lyx for collaborative editing of papers in the lab (normally =3 people) using git's built in merge. For us this a tremendous improvement over the emailed word file strategy. We have not

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: We currently use integrated SVN support of LyX for this. The merge conflicts are avoided by locking the whole document or childern (parts of the text). It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
Hi Mateo, John, Ray, Jacob (and everyone else), It seems APA6 is useful to a lot of people and in particular to you guys. How about we make a layout for it together then? I will be happy to help. As soon as I get caught up on some things, I will clean up what I am using and see if we can

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of documents (as opposed to source code). Conditions I had in mind were: a) - small team working on e.g. scientific paper - avoid endless

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 11/12/2012 5:23 a.m., Richard Heck wrote: On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: (1) If an inset name contains a vertical bar, |, the part after the bar is not shown in the Insert Custom Insets list, but is retained in LyX format. Using the schema, inset definition = Custom Insets

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of documents (as opposed to source code). Conditions I had in mind

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 11/12/12 23:00, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Thanks for the responses to this and my other custom inset queries Richard. I've put in a bug report about ResetsFont in custom insets. I'm going to continue to use the pipe symbol for its unintended purpose -- I've yet to see any deleterious

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Nico Williams wrote: I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. That's because you probably work with people with computer science background. The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is push red button, push green button and I know what I'm talking

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012, Pavel Sanda wrote: Nico Williams wrote: I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. That's because you probably work with people with computer science background. The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is push red

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Gregory Jefferis
(wrote this up and noticed that much of it duplicates what Nico said – merging is easy and branching is not so bad either) On 11 Dec 2012, at 18:25, Pavel Sanda wrote: Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 12/12/12 00:06, Nico Williams a écrit : Anyone who would use track changes can merge. In any case, a merge capability would be huge. Sure, but not trivial to implement... JMarc

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/11/2012 05:02 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 11/12/12 23:00, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Thanks for the responses to this and my other custom inset queries Richard. I've put in a bug report about ResetsFont in custom insets. I'm going to continue to use the pipe symbol for its unintended

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieb Rob Oakes: Rob, those links are very helpful and clarifying things which are not obvious to the novice! Wolfgang http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/02/custom-lyx-nih http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/14/customize-lyx-character-sty

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread José Matos
On 12/11/2012 09:29 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieb Rob Oakes: Rob, those links are very helpful and clarifying things which are not obvious to the novice! Wolfgang If other doubts arrive (probability ~= 1) do not hesitate to use this list. Now

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Rob Oakes
Hi Wolfgang, I'm glad they were helpful: On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 10:36 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieben Sie: Hi, Rob, has this been done already: TeXLive 2009 is included with Ubuntu 10.04, if you are able to update your Linux

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM, José Matos jama...@lyx.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still supported, so that's strange... The reason

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Gregory Jefferis wrote: Returning to the original question of merging + VCS, we currently use git + lyx for collaborative editing of papers in the lab (normally =3 people) using git's built in merge. For us this a tremendous improvement over the emailed word file strategy. We have not

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: We currently use integrated SVN support of LyX for this. The merge conflicts are avoided by locking the whole document or childern (parts of the text). It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
Hi Mateo, John, Ray, Jacob (and everyone else), It seems APA6 is useful to a lot of people and in particular to you guys. How about we make a layout for it together then? I will be happy to help. As soon as I get caught up on some things, I will clean up what I am using and see if we can

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of documents (as opposed to source code). Conditions I had in mind were: a) - small team working on e.g. scientific paper - avoid endless

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 11/12/2012 5:23 a.m., Richard Heck wrote: On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: (1) If an inset name contains a vertical bar, |, the part after the bar is not shown in the Insert Custom Insets list, but is retained in LyX format. Using the schema, inset definition = Custom Insets

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org wrote: Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of documents (as opposed to source code). Conditions I had in mind

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 11/12/12 23:00, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Thanks for the responses to this and my other custom inset queries Richard. I've put in a bug report about ResetsFont in custom insets. I'm going to continue to use the pipe symbol for its unintended purpose -- I've yet to see any deleterious

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Nico Williams wrote: I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. That's because you probably work with people with computer science background. The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is push red button, push green button and I know what I'm talking

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012, Pavel Sanda wrote: Nico Williams wrote: I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. That's because you probably work with people with computer science background. The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is push red

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Gregory Jefferis
(wrote this up and noticed that much of it duplicates what Nico said – merging is easy and branching is not so bad either) On 11 Dec 2012, at 18:25, Pavel Sanda wrote: Nico Williams wrote: It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching and merging. Locking simply does

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 12/12/12 00:06, Nico Williams a écrit : Anyone who would use track changes can merge. In any case, a merge capability would be huge. Sure, but not trivial to implement... JMarc

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/11/2012 05:02 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 11/12/12 23:00, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Thanks for the responses to this and my other custom inset queries Richard. I've put in a bug report about ResetsFont in custom insets. I'm going to continue to use the pipe symbol for its unintended

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieb Rob Oakes: Rob, those links are very helpful and clarifying things which are not obvious to the novice! Wolfgang > http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/02/custom-lyx-nih > http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/14/customize-lyx-character-sty

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread José Matos
On 12/11/2012 09:29 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieb Rob Oakes: > Rob, those links are very helpful and clarifying things which are not > obvious to the novice! > Wolfgang If other doubts arrive (probability ~= 1) do not hesitate to use this list.

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Rob Oakes
Hi Wolfgang, I'm glad they were helpful: On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 10:36 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Montag, 10. Dezember 2012, 21:31:25 schrieben Sie: > > Hi, Rob, > > has this been done already: > > TeXLive 2009 is included with Ubuntu 10.04, if you are able to update your > Linux

Re: No bibliography environment in DocBook document class

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM, José Matos wrote: > On 12/10/2012 10:46 PM, Nico Williams wrote: >> Why is there no bibliography environment in the DocBook document >> classes? There must be a reason, of course, but then, bibtex is still >> supported, so that's strange... > >

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Gregory Jefferis wrote: > Returning to the original question of merging + VCS, we currently use git + > lyx for collaborative editing of papers in the lab (normally <=3 people) > using git's built in merge. For us this a tremendous improvement over the > emailed word file strategy. We have not

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > We currently use integrated SVN support of LyX for this. > The merge conflicts are avoided by locking the whole document or childern > (parts of the text). It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching

Re: APA6 class with LyX?

2012-12-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
> > Hi Mateo, John, Ray, Jacob (and everyone else), > > It seems APA6 is useful to a lot of people and in particular to you > guys. How about we make a layout for it together then? > I will be happy to help. As soon as I get caught up on some things, I will clean up what I am using and see if we

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Nico Williams wrote: > It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching > and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of > documents (as opposed to source code). Conditions I had in mind were: a) - small team working on e.g. scientific paper - avoid endless

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 11/12/2012 5:23 a.m., Richard Heck wrote: On 12/08/2012 04:17 AM, Andrew Parsloe wrote: (1) If an inset name contains a vertical bar, |, the part after the bar is not shown in the Insert > Custom Insets list, but is retained in LyX format. Using the schema, inset definition => Custom Insets

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Nico Williams wrote: >> It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching >> and merging. Locking simply does not scale. This is true even of >> documents (as opposed to source code). > > Conditions I had

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 11/12/12 23:00, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Thanks for the responses to this and my other custom inset queries Richard. I've put in a bug report about ResetsFont in custom insets. I'm going to continue to use the pipe symbol for its unintended purpose -- I've yet to see any deleterious

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Nico Williams wrote: > I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. That's because you probably work with people with computer science background. The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is "push red button, push green button" and I know what I'm talking

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Nico Williams
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Nico Williams wrote: > > I believe merging is easier than locking, even for small teams. > > That's because you probably work with people with computer science > background. > The moment you step out of these waters the most you can expect is

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Gregory Jefferis
(wrote this up and noticed that much of it duplicates what Nico said – merging is easy and branching is not so bad either) On 11 Dec 2012, at 18:25, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Nico Williams wrote: >> It is precisely because locking doesn't scale that we have branching >> and merging. Locking simply

Re: LyX document diff/merge tools for cooperative editing?

2012-12-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 12/12/12 00:06, Nico Williams a écrit : Anyone who would use track changes can merge. In any case, a merge capability would be huge. Sure, but not trivial to implement... JMarc

Re: Pipe in FlexInset Names

2012-12-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/11/2012 05:02 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 11/12/12 23:00, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : Thanks for the responses to this and my other custom inset queries Richard. I've put in a bug report about ResetsFont in custom insets. I'm going to continue to use the pipe symbol for its unintended