Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Sven Schreiber
James W Dow schrieb: LyX is a wonderful word processor. It is best one for writing mathematics directly from the keyboard. Please don't spend a huge time developing it for Windows. Windows will gradually fade away. Putting nice programs like LyX on that operating system just delays people

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well depends on the effort needed to make it happen... and since we are in the Open Source world it is really is the community on the operating systems in question that should to the work to make it happen. I agree. LyX is developed on

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stephen Harris wrote: A version of MikTeX (called ProTeXt)

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Marc J. Driftmeyer
Okay now what you just said spits on the entire *nix community. I myself use LyX less than I do LaTeX with Kile on Debian [don't get me started with the transition LyX is having with the Debian upgrades after Sarge] and I use LyX for OS X and TeXShop for OS X. This particular section is

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Angus Leeming leeming at ... writes: [...] Should we

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So if I read this correctly, because a Win32 port of LyX has been made possible to show the Windows User the Power of the UNIX/Linux World Design approach to Software and what Free Tools can produce using the TeX/LaTeX systems and their many

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Sven Schreiber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There is no way that they switch OS because we need some specialized apps that only run under Windows. (Please don't reply with hints on wine, qemu, etc., I've tried it all.) What app you have that don't run under vmware? Bottom line: If Angus (and

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+. The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it yourself. There is not really much developer attention on gtk. -- Lgb

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Helge Hafting
Gour wrote: Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So if I read this correctly, because a Win32 port of LyX has been made possible to show the Windows User the Power of the UNIX/Linux World Design approach to Software and what Free Tools can produce using the TeX/LaTeX systems

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Sven Schreiber
Before this develops into a flamewar, let me rectify something: I *like* Linux more than I like Windows, but that doesn't change the fact that some very specialized apps simply don't exist on *nix. I'm very glad though that many open-source apps are cross-platform so that I can work with them.

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread John Coppens
On 08 Nov 2005 13:19:46 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) wrote: Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+. The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it yourself. There is not really much developer attention

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Helge Hafting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Not really. The win32 version of lyx does not in any way make it a more serious solution. More accessible of course, but no more serious. Who said that? Me? Marc? Now, if we're making wishes - scratch the bloated gtk and go for fltk.

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Sven Schreiber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi Sven! I don't understand why such a statement results in angry accusations. I hope you didn't take my argument as a angry accusations, at least it was not meant to be so, just a slightly provoking statement to backup your statement :-) People are

Re: Lyx on Windows and layout error

2005-11-08 Thread Banibrata Dutta
Hi Stephen: Thanks for the explanation. I am using WindowsXP Professional (with absolute lates SP's installed). I did a Large ( not Total) MixTex installation. Do you think that matters ? The size difference between Large Total seems to be less than 15MB. I'd certainly perform the actions

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
John Coppens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'd have a go at the GTK+ version, in which I am also interested, but I'll surely need a hand, as I am not an ace programmer. Can someone indicate what has to be done? As I wrote earlier, I cannot code, but can contribute my time to testing. Probably

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Forget Windows Gour wrote: Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'd also like to see more focus

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Banibrata Dutta
Hi Folks, We may try to wish-away windows or maybe flame-it-down, but the fact is that by saying things like -- don't spend any more effort on developing it further on Windows, what you are saying is turn the development into a prejudiced-OpenSource, not a truely world-hugging OpenSource as

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
John Coppens wrote: | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+. The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it yourself. There is not really much developer attention on gtk. I subscribed to this list to get LyX info for Linux, not Windoze. Lately, way

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Yes, there is code-share, but every individial port (win32, gtk) takes | away the energy time of devs, and that's why I'd prefer to e.g. have | gtk port which could (if) cover Win32, Linux-like OS-es MaC OS in one | stroke. Note that code share is in the very

Please don't (was Re: Forget Windows)

2005-11-08 Thread William F. Adams
While I agree w/ Marc in wanting a Cocoa / GNUstep front-end for LyX, I would like to echo the statements of Banibrata and others that it's better to have a wide variety, and please don't abandon people who need to use Windows for one reason or other. Having Windows as an option makes LyX far

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris wrote: Yes, I looked at fltk and it is intended to be cross-platform. I've also seen some great screenshots and fltk was used for (and a variation is used for making special effects in movies) porting flpsed using Minsys rather than Cygwin on Windows. The result was as good as

Re: Suggestion

2005-11-08 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Alex Streit wrote: Hi all, I am using LyX 1.3.6 (Mac), although I've noticed the same behaviour on Linux and Windows builds. One thing that keeps getting me is that I find the selection behaviour un-intuitive. Because it is very much a character - to - character selection, which makes it hard

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Stephen Harris techmech at ... writes: The TeXLive

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread William F. Adams
On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Angus Leeming wrote: However, before any eager soul jumps on this frontend bandwagon, I'd like to introduce a note of caution and suggest that you really, really shouldn't create yet another frontend to LyX. Time is limited, there are only so many of us and another

Re: Suggestion

2005-11-08 Thread Roy Schestowitz
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 15:09:51 GMT, [Paul A. Rubin] wrote : \_ Alex Streit wrote: Hi all, I am using LyX 1.3.6 (Mac), although I've noticed the same behaviour on Linux and Windows builds. Yes, all are rather uniform in terms of their behaviour. One thing that keeps getting me is

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Ingar Pareliussen
Tysdag 8. november 2005 15:57 skreiv Lars Gullik Bjønnes: Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Yes, there is code-share, but every individial port (win32, gtk) takes | away the energy time of devs, and that's why I'd prefer to e.g. have | gtk port which could (if) cover Win32, Linux-like OS-es

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Note that code share is in the very high 90's %. Really? Did not know that. So, it means that, in case qt goes non-gpl or something, it would not be too hard to port to another toolkit? It is packaging that takes time, and you won't get that

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
William F. Adams wrote: I think we'd all like to see improved core functionality in future releases. The last three or four years have seen increased prettiness and stability and *much* nicer code but little real increase in what LyX can actually do. Now that we have something that's at least

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Ingar == Ingar Pareliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ingar As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits Ingar increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Ingar Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and Ingar each have to be translated manually.

Memoir Install?

2005-11-08 Thread Gill, Jack
I'm a LyX nubie. I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, and have installed LyX via the Ubuntu package manager. How do I install Memoir? Where do I put the sty files, etc? Jack

importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread hagit lev
Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Ingar Pareliussen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and each have to be translated manually. Good point. So as a

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Ingar Pareliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Forget Windows So as a translator I would like to have only one toolset to work with, and if I could have chosen I would loved a

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Adrien Rebollo
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Ingar == Ingar Pareliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ingar As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits Ingar increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Ingar Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and

Re: importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread Roy Schestowitz
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 17:32:49 GMT, [hagit lev] wrote : \_ Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Although this depends on various settings

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Ingar Pareliussen
Tysdag 8. november 2005 17:59 skreiv Gour: Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Note that code share is in the very high 90's %. So, it means that, in case qt goes non-gpl or something, it would not be too hard to port to another toolkit? Lyx source code was divided in 2000(-01?)

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Ingar Pareliussen
Tysdag 8. november 2005 18:48 skreiv Stephen Harris: SH: Hmmm. I like the KDE desktop and looked into the Cygwin port of KDE to Windows, which has been abandoned. Now the effort is to produce a native Windows KDE. I thought I read that this effort relied on Qt (3?) similar to LyX? For the

Re: importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 18:32 schrieb hagit lev: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? You can import any figure material directly if you have

Re: Suggestion

2005-11-08 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 17:47 schrieb Roy Schestowitz: I noticed that too, but never complained. I re-adjusted my mind and got accustomed *over time*. This behaviour is attributed to the LaTeX/LyX for- mat underneath, yet a few tweaks could probably correct this. Selections do

Re: importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread Paul A. Rubin
hagit lev wrote: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and

Re[2]: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Alex
Dear All, Ingar As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits Ingar increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Ingar Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and Ingar each have to be translated manually. JML Note we could make an effort to change

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread William F. Adams
On Nov 8, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Angus Leeming wrote: You have a strange definition of ``for free'', William. There are 295 files in the Qt frontend totalling some 27,000 lines of code. And that's neglecting the .ui files that define the dialog structure. Yes, but all those lines and the QT

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread William F. Adams
On Nov 8, 2005, at 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to create a translation code internally, to handle the differences in GUIs? I have (almost) finshed the translation of Qt strings. It would be useful, If I could reuse all of them, without doublecating thoose strings. This

Re: Re[2]: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Ingar As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits Ingar increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Ingar Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and Ingar each have to be translated manually. JML Note we

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread John Coppens
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:53:06 + Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I don't think that's true. Looking back over the mail list archive as far as 22 Oct, I see the list of messages below. (Sorted alphabetically.) Most all of 'em are probelms that aren't specific to Windows, even

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 22:18 schrieb John Coppens: Anyway, I see there is some interest (mine included) for a native GTK+ version, so I'll try and compile one (I suspect it compiles at least?). Yes, it does, and it is also somewhat useful, since it borrows xforms dialogs. Who is the

Re[4]: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Alex
Dear Angus List, Ingar As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits Ingar increase the amount of work for the translators as well. JML Note we could make an effort to change this: use the shortcut Is it possible to create a translation code internally, to handle the

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
William == William F Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have (almost) finshed the translation of Qt strings. It would be useful, If I could reuse all of them, without doublecating thoose strings. William This is one of the things one could get ``for free'' w/ a William move to

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus It doesn't actually make anybody's life easier because the Angus different frontends do actually have subtly different dialogs Angus and messages. I suspect 50% of the strings would turn out to be common. JMarc

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Alex == Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex Why? The GUI indepence means same content, different look. Isn't Alex it? The idea is that each frontend author is free to implement the dialogs as he wants. There is no contraint on their layout and/or text. JMarc

Re: Memoir Install?

2005-11-08 Thread Paul Smith
On 11/8/05, Gill, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a LyX nubie. I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, and have installed LyX via the Ubuntu package manager. How do I install Memoir? Where do I put the sty files, etc? Jack, If you have a working LaTeX installation, memoir should be accessible from

Re: Memoir Install?

2005-11-08 Thread Paul Smith
On 11/8/05, Gill, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded the files from CTAN, followed the instructions in the readme file, and it still didn't show up. I restarted LyX several times, and nothing. Then I rebooted the PC, and there it is. In such a situations, one must reconfigure LyX

Write debug info to file

2005-11-08 Thread Abel Fernández Fernández
Is there any way of write debug info in a text file? I do this -- lyx -dbg latex for show debug info, but this write into console. Thx. P.D. sorry for my bad english ;)

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
William F. Adams wrote: For those interested in such stats, the whole LyX source tree (neglecting non-Qt frontend code) comprises 970 files and 170,000 lines of code. The thing is *big* and doesn't need to get any bigger. I thought that the whole point to GUI-Independence was that it would

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:53:39 +0100 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex == Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex Why? The GUI indepence means same content, different look. Isn't Alex it? The idea is that each frontend author is free to implement the dialogs as he wants.

Re: Write debug info to file

2005-11-08 Thread Georg Baum
Abel Fernández Fernández wrote: Is there any way of write debug info in a text file? I do this -- lyx -dbg latex for show debug info, but this write into console. You can redirect the standard error output to a file on unix systems: lyx -dbg latex 2err.log On windows it looks maybe

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Sven Schreiber
James W Dow schrieb: LyX is a wonderful word processor. It is best one for writing mathematics directly from the keyboard. Please don't spend a huge time developing it for Windows. Windows will gradually fade away. Putting nice programs like LyX on that operating system just delays people

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well depends on the effort needed to make it happen... and since we are in the Open Source world it is really is the community on the operating systems in question that should to the work to make it happen. I agree. LyX is developed on

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stephen Harris wrote: A version of MikTeX (called ProTeXt)

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Marc J. Driftmeyer
Okay now what you just said spits on the entire *nix community. I myself use LyX less than I do LaTeX with Kile on Debian [don't get me started with the transition LyX is having with the Debian upgrades after Sarge] and I use LyX for OS X and TeXShop for OS X. This particular section is

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Angus Leeming leeming at ... writes: [...] Should we

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So if I read this correctly, because a Win32 port of LyX has been made possible to show the Windows User the Power of the UNIX/Linux World Design approach to Software and what Free Tools can produce using the TeX/LaTeX systems and their many

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Sven Schreiber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There is no way that they switch OS because we need some specialized apps that only run under Windows. (Please don't reply with hints on wine, qemu, etc., I've tried it all.) What app you have that don't run under vmware? Bottom line: If Angus (and

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+. The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it yourself. There is not really much developer attention on gtk. -- Lgb

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Helge Hafting
Gour wrote: Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So if I read this correctly, because a Win32 port of LyX has been made possible to show the Windows User the Power of the UNIX/Linux World Design approach to Software and what Free Tools can produce using the TeX/LaTeX systems

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Sven Schreiber
Before this develops into a flamewar, let me rectify something: I *like* Linux more than I like Windows, but that doesn't change the fact that some very specialized apps simply don't exist on *nix. I'm very glad though that many open-source apps are cross-platform so that I can work with them.

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread John Coppens
On 08 Nov 2005 13:19:46 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) wrote: Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+. The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it yourself. There is not really much developer attention

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Helge Hafting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Not really. The win32 version of lyx does not in any way make it a more serious solution. More accessible of course, but no more serious. Who said that? Me? Marc? Now, if we're making wishes - scratch the bloated gtk and go for fltk.

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Sven Schreiber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi Sven! I don't understand why such a statement results in angry accusations. I hope you didn't take my argument as a angry accusations, at least it was not meant to be so, just a slightly provoking statement to backup your statement :-) People are

Re: Lyx on Windows and layout error

2005-11-08 Thread Banibrata Dutta
Hi Stephen: Thanks for the explanation. I am using WindowsXP Professional (with absolute lates SP's installed). I did a Large ( not Total) MixTex installation. Do you think that matters ? The size difference between Large Total seems to be less than 15MB. I'd certainly perform the actions

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
John Coppens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'd have a go at the GTK+ version, in which I am also interested, but I'll surely need a hand, as I am not an ace programmer. Can someone indicate what has to be done? As I wrote earlier, I cannot code, but can contribute my time to testing. Probably

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Forget Windows Gour wrote: Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'd also like to see more focus

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Banibrata Dutta
Hi Folks, We may try to wish-away windows or maybe flame-it-down, but the fact is that by saying things like -- don't spend any more effort on developing it further on Windows, what you are saying is turn the development into a prejudiced-OpenSource, not a truely world-hugging OpenSource as

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
John Coppens wrote: | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+. The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it yourself. There is not really much developer attention on gtk. I subscribed to this list to get LyX info for Linux, not Windoze. Lately, way

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Yes, there is code-share, but every individial port (win32, gtk) takes | away the energy time of devs, and that's why I'd prefer to e.g. have | gtk port which could (if) cover Win32, Linux-like OS-es MaC OS in one | stroke. Note that code share is in the very

Please don't (was Re: Forget Windows)

2005-11-08 Thread William F. Adams
While I agree w/ Marc in wanting a Cocoa / GNUstep front-end for LyX, I would like to echo the statements of Banibrata and others that it's better to have a wide variety, and please don't abandon people who need to use Windows for one reason or other. Having Windows as an option makes LyX far

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
Stephen Harris wrote: Yes, I looked at fltk and it is intended to be cross-platform. I've also seen some great screenshots and fltk was used for (and a variation is used for making special effects in movies) porting flpsed using Minsys rather than Cygwin on Windows. The result was as good as

Re: Suggestion

2005-11-08 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Alex Streit wrote: Hi all, I am using LyX 1.3.6 (Mac), although I've noticed the same behaviour on Linux and Windows builds. One thing that keeps getting me is that I find the selection behaviour un-intuitive. Because it is very much a character - to - character selection, which makes it hard

Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Jean-Pierre Chrétien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp Stephen Harris techmech at ... writes: The TeXLive

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread William F. Adams
On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Angus Leeming wrote: However, before any eager soul jumps on this frontend bandwagon, I'd like to introduce a note of caution and suggest that you really, really shouldn't create yet another frontend to LyX. Time is limited, there are only so many of us and another

Re: Suggestion

2005-11-08 Thread Roy Schestowitz
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 15:09:51 GMT, [Paul A. Rubin] wrote : \_ Alex Streit wrote: Hi all, I am using LyX 1.3.6 (Mac), although I've noticed the same behaviour on Linux and Windows builds. Yes, all are rather uniform in terms of their behaviour. One thing that keeps getting me is

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Ingar Pareliussen
Tysdag 8. november 2005 15:57 skreiv Lars Gullik Bjønnes: Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Yes, there is code-share, but every individial port (win32, gtk) takes | away the energy time of devs, and that's why I'd prefer to e.g. have | gtk port which could (if) cover Win32, Linux-like OS-es

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Note that code share is in the very high 90's %. Really? Did not know that. So, it means that, in case qt goes non-gpl or something, it would not be too hard to port to another toolkit? It is packaging that takes time, and you won't get that

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Angus Leeming
William F. Adams wrote: I think we'd all like to see improved core functionality in future releases. The last three or four years have seen increased prettiness and stability and *much* nicer code but little real increase in what LyX can actually do. Now that we have something that's at least

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Ingar == Ingar Pareliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ingar As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits Ingar increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Ingar Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and Ingar each have to be translated manually.

Memoir Install?

2005-11-08 Thread Gill, Jack
I'm a LyX nubie. I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, and have installed LyX via the Ubuntu package manager. How do I install Memoir? Where do I put the sty files, etc? Jack

importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread hagit lev
Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and when I tried to

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Gour
Ingar Pareliussen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and each have to be translated manually. Good point. So as a

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Harris
- Original Message - From: Ingar Pareliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Forget Windows So as a translator I would like to have only one toolset to work with, and if I could have chosen I would loved a

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Adrien Rebollo
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Ingar == Ingar Pareliussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ingar As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits Ingar increase the amount of work for the translators as well. Ingar Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and

Re: importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread Roy Schestowitz
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 17:32:49 GMT, [hagit lev] wrote : \_ Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Although this depends on various settings

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Ingar Pareliussen
Tysdag 8. november 2005 17:59 skreiv Gour: Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Note that code share is in the very high 90's %. So, it means that, in case qt goes non-gpl or something, it would not be too hard to port to another toolkit? Lyx source code was divided in 2000(-01?)

Re: Forget Windows

2005-11-08 Thread Ingar Pareliussen
Tysdag 8. november 2005 18:48 skreiv Stephen Harris: SH: Hmmm. I like the KDE desktop and looked into the Cygwin port of KDE to Windows, which has been abandoned. Now the effort is to produce a native Windows KDE. I thought I read that this effort relied on Qt (3?) similar to LyX? For the

Re: importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 18:32 schrieb hagit lev: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? You can import any figure material directly if you have

Re: Suggestion

2005-11-08 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 17:47 schrieb Roy Schestowitz: I noticed that too, but never complained. I re-adjusted my mind and got accustomed *over time*. This behaviour is attributed to the LaTeX/LyX for- mat underneath, yet a few tweaks could probably correct this. Selections do

Re: importing material into figures

2005-11-08 Thread Paul A. Rubin
hagit lev wrote: Hi I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them first to jpeg and only then import ? Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file was a huge picture, and

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