Minimal LyX installation

[Gunnar]

What is the bare minimum for a LyX installation if the only thing that should 
be done is writing new LyX documents and producing pdf's?

LyX, LaTeX, ghostscript, what else? As I remember, the LyX installer installed 
both Perl and Python. Will LyX work without them?

The reason for asking is that the amount of installed software should be kept 
at a minimum.

Re: side-by-side installation of 1.3.7 and 1.4.0

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Maybe that sounded complicated, but it takes less than
 15 seconds to switch back and forth by renaming folders. 
 I don't know if it is this easy using Linux, but there should
 be a way.

You need not renaming your folders. Call one folder LyX137 and the other
LyX140 (place them wherever you want, too), than in your batch files
call the lyx binary using the -userdir option to point it to the
location of the right folder.

C:\LyX\bin\lyx.exe -userdir C:\whatever\LyX137  - for lyx 1.3.7
C:\LyX140\bin\lyx.exe -userdir C:\whatever\LyX140   - for lyx 1.4.0

--
Enrico

LyX on Cygwin

[Stephen Harris]

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin

Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
   (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)

I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.

I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.

The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.

The Pre3 release had a configure file but that isn't
worthwhile trying to build. 


I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/


Regards,
Stephen

Re: Default behaviour of float

[Enrico Forestieri]

Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there some way (e.g. in a .layout) to tell LyX to automatically
 center the contents of a float environment (image and caption)?

Put the following in the preamble:

\renewenvironment{figure}[1][]{%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\centering
  }{%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  }

--
Enrico

Re: LyX on Cygwin

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin
 
 Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
 (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)
 
 I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.
 
 I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.

Well, x could also mean 0pre5 ;-)

 The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
 the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.

Are you sure? The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded from
ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/ had one ...

 The Pre3 release had a configure file but that isn't
 worthwhile trying to build. 
 
 I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
 configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
 Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
 And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
 The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
 was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/

As regards cvs, it's simply a matter of running ./autogen.sh.
However, if you followed the directions, the script lyxconfig-cygwin
should have informed you that configure was missing and should have
also suggested what to do... run autogen.sh in the same directory
containing configure.ac:

  cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
  ./autogen.sh

Please, tell me if something is not clear.

--
Enrico

Re: xforms needed question

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 17 February 2006 02:30, Tom Poe wrote:
 Stephen:  Well, futzed around, then decided to log out, set session to
 KDE, and ran the command, 'yum xforms'.  It worked magically!  This was
 my first experience with yum.  I then ran the command 'yum install lyx'
 and again, magic!  I am now up and running.  Thanks, much!
 Installed: lyx.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
 Dependency Installed: aiksaurus.i386 1:1.2.1-7 lyx-qt.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
 mathml-fonts.noarch 0:1.0-19.fc4
 Complete!

  Ah, you could have told that you are using FC-4, :-)
  Some of us in the devel team use it.

  The packager for Fedora Extras, Rex Dieter from kde-redhat is very 
responsive so you are in good hands. :-)

  OT here, if you use KDE and Fedora I suggest you to visit 
http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

 Tom

  All the best,
-- 
José Abílio

Re: LyX on Mac --Very first draft of a visual installation guide

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Anders Ekberg wrote:

 Thanks Christian,
 
 I will try to upload the pictures and add additional material (you're  
 right, the example files could be good). I will also try to continue  
 with instruction on how to add templates, etc. Unfortunately I'm  
 locked up until the end of next week, so it may take some time.

No worries there, just ask if you run into any problems.

/C

-- 
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: I need workaround of encoding problem

[Helge Hafting]

Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters
and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell.
 



 


Common problem for unicode users, because
lyx doesn't support unicode.  That cause trouble
when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx
gives it iso8859 encoded text.
Here's what I do:
1. Start an xterm or similiar command line
2. Figure out what LANG setting you have, like this:
echo $LANG
   



with this nothing is show.

 


I get nb_NO.UTF-8, you probably have something else.
Change to a LANG without the UTF-8 part. In my case:
export LANG=nb_NO

   


export LANG=es_ES

 


Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the
modified  language.  You should still get the lyx
GUI in your language, assuming it is translated.
And now the spellchecker works too. :-)
   


No work for me :-(
Lyx 1.4.0pre appears without menu, only
 


Strange.  If the menu isn't translated, then you should get
it in english instead.  This looks like a broken installation.


a icon bar, I clicked icon for file open
and, choose my file (saved with 1.4.0pre)
and I get error in conversion.
Then I open with lyx (from icon),
deleted list of fig,
repeat process and when I open the file
lyx go out (aborted) with an error message.

 


Fixing this is planned for lyx 1.5.0, which will
have unicode support.
Helge Hafting
   



Which is the date when You expect lyx 1.5.0 will be
released?
 


I can only guess - a year or two.  The spellchecker
and rest of lyx is supposed to work fine when LANG
doesn't contain the UTF-8 part though.

The lack of unicode should not prevent you from using
ñ, you merely have to use an encoding where the ñ exist.
Unicode will allow all symbols in the same document, so
it becomes possible to mix russian, lating and greek letters
at the same time.

Helge Hafting

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 Hi there! I was messing around after looking at this tutorial
 (http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XY-pic) on how to get XY pic to work on LyX
 and I got some limited tree support with xytree and TIPA working!

That's nice indeed. Even if I knew we have some provisional code for tipa in 
our sources, I never figured out how to use it, and stuck with ERT.

I think you should create an info page on the LyX wiki for this.

 I heard that this support was going out in LyX
 1.4, but this makes me very sad. Since it's so easy to add the support
 for trees and TIPA like this, why not add it for real in the next
 release? I'm sure it would make many linguists very happy.

AFAIK xymatrix was removed because it was rather buggy. Anyway, I think 
there's interest to readd it again soon, maybe even enhance it, see:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2238

Concerning TIPA, I'm tempted to have a look in the next development cycle (for 
1.5), but don't hold your breath. There are so many things to do, and even if 
I'm a linguist myself, I don't need phonetic symbols frequently enough to get 
annoyed by the lacking support ;-)

Jürgen

footnotes and foot bibliography

[Romuald POTEAU]

Dear Lyx users,

I am writing a document with the bibliography given as footnotes, thanks 
to the footbib package. I would like to insert comments, usually given 
as footnotes, as a part of the bibliography. In other words, is it 
possible to number these comments within the numbering scheme of the 
bibliography.


...
[2] W. Heisenberg, /Z. Phys/ (1929) 167
[3] Coupled-Cluster methods provide numerical results considered as very 
accurate

[4] A. Einstein/, Journal of  Physics/ (1935) 198
...

Thank you very much,
Romuald Poteau

Re: xforms needed question

[Rex Dieter]

Tom Poe wrote:
I checked for xforms download, and ran into problems trying to locate 
the proper file.  The Redhat link for rpm, for example, gave me an error 
message that it couldn't change ftp directory.  Does anyone know where I 
can download Xforms files?  Or, should I try to use QT, and follow the 
INSTALL directions?  I'm using the Gnome GUI, not the KDE GUI.

Here's message when I tried to install 1.3.7 on FC4:


FYI, xforms, lyx-1.3.7 (with lyx-qt and lyx-xforms) are available from 
Fedora Extras.


-- Rex

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Concerning TIPA, I'm tempted to have a look in the next development cycle (for 
1.5), but don't hold your breath. There are so many things to do, and even if 
I'm a linguist myself, I don't need phonetic symbols frequently enough to get 
annoyed by the lacking support ;-)


do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

Herbert

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Herbert Voss wrote:
 do you know the following packages?

 Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

 typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

 Linguistic: autosegmental representations
 http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.

Jürgen

RE: Creating an Index

[Jack M. Lyon]

Helge Hafting wrote:

 Showing the generated index is indeed possible, by
 using the existing mechanism for showing rendered formulas.  Well,
 it takes a lot more time as you typically need to render the entire
 document to get the page numbers.  So index preview should
 be optional.

Another option might be to show the constructed index but *without* the
page numbers. Usually indexers don't care so much about seeing the
actual page numbers, but they do care about seeing the *structure* of
the index as they work. An index *with* page numbers might look like
this:

Aker, 317; two lions of figure of, 185
Akhenaton, 149, 252
Akhmim, 26
Alexandria, 141

But it could also be displayed *without* page numbers, like this:

Aker, ?; two lions of figure of, ?
Akhenaton, ?, ?
Akhmim, ?
Alexandria, ?

Or something along those lines.

Maybe give users the option.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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http://www.editorium.com
___
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Helge Hafting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Creating an Index
 
 
 Jack M. Lyon wrote:
 
 Helge Hafting wrote:
 
   
 
 the index is normally _not_ for documenting
 every occurence of some word.
 
 
 
 Amen.
 
 How about creating a real indexing feature for LyX that would allow
 users to index a document in the way Helge has described:
 
   
 
 I did it the other way around, I
 read the manuscript and indexed every important concept
 I came across.
 
 
 
 Sorry if this sounds like a plug--I really mean it as a suggested
 addition to LyX--but you might look at my indexing add-in 
 for MS Word as
 a model for what could be done in LyX:
 
 http://www.editorium.com/dexter.htm
 
   
 
 Interesting!
 
 Indexing is done, by hand, in a sortable table. After the entries are
 finished, they're embedded in the document.
 
 For LyX, it might be possible to do this even more 
 elegantly, by showing
 the generated index every time the document is generated 
 with LaTeX, or,
 better still, by showing it (updated) in the LyX UI every 
 time an index
 entry is added to or modified in the table.
 
 It's important for the indexer to be able to see and edit all index
 entries in the same place and at the same time rather than just have
 them spread througout the document--hence, the table.
 
 Wow, this would be a *cool* feature for LyX. What do you think?
   
 
 It'd be a cool feature, sure.  And very useful.  Lyx being 
 open source means
 this can be integrated rather than being an add-on. I think 
 the perfect
 solution would be to still have all the index entries spread 
 throughout the
 document - so that they move around automatically as I cut/copy and
 paste.  But there should also be this table view for smart 
 editing of
 the index.  Showing the generated index is indeed possible, by
 using the existing mechanism for showing rendered formulas.  Well,
 it takes a lot more time as you typically need to render the entire
 document to get the page numbers.  So index preview should
 be optional. 
 
 Helge Hafting
 
 
 
 

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Herbert Voss wrote:


do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/



I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.


here are some examples with code

http://perce.de/pub/linguistic.pdf

Herbert

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Stacia Hartleben]

I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
support? That makes me really sad :(

On 2/17/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Herbert Voss wrote:
  do you know the following packages?
 
  Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees
 
  typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/
 
  Linguistic: autosegmental representations
  http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

 I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.

 Jürgen

RE: Creating an Index

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Jack M. Lyon wrote:


Usually indexers don't care so much about seeing the actual page numbers,
but they do care about seeing the *structure* of the index as they work.


  Which brings up another issue that might be a wrench in the gears:
different standards for indexes (e.g., British vs. American) and publisher or
subject area preferences.

  I was, of course, totally ignorant of all this until I read Nancy Mulvany's
book and learned that my publisher does not hire professional indexers, but
leaves us authors to struggle through the process all alone.

Rich

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Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
 really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
 support? That makes me really sad :(

at least the tipa part will be useful.

Jürgen

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Herbert Voss wrote:
 here are some examples with code

I see that your book grew quite a bit ;-)

Jürgen

Re: software manuals using Lyx

[Bo Peng]

 Can anyone tell me if there is an up-to-date HOWTO somewhere for using
 Lyx for DocBook output of software user's manuals?

Personally I am using python/manual.cls and an adapted layout file.
This works reasonably well but there is no chm output and other fancy
stuff.

I tried the lyx/docbook before, following the same kinds of tutorials,
but none of them worked. This may be because I am not familiar with
XML/docbook etc but the bizarre error messages, incompatible tool
sets, limited support from lyx  really dismayed me. Maybe things have
been better now.

Cheers,
Bo

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Maria Gouskova]

Stacia, this is great--I thought the only way to do trees and IPA in  
LyX was in ERT. I don't know how many linguists are on this list, but  
what do people think of starting a wiki page LyX for Linguists,  
similar to LaTeX for linguists?


http://www.essex.ac.uk/linguistics/clmt/latex4ling/

Linguists, as opposed to, say mathematicians, have pretty specific  
typographic and formatting needs that aren't obvious in LyX, such as:


- a numbered paragraph environment, in parentheses, with numbering  
sequential throughout the document
- table editing: double lines, dashed lines, shaded table cells (for  
Optimality Theory)

- pointy hand symbol (for Optimality Theory)
- IPA fonts
- trees, syntactic and autosegmental/prosodic
- aligned glosses
- math symbols intermingled with phonetic symbols
- switching from one language's orthography to another in the same  
document/paragraph/line


Some of this is covered on Doug Arnold's LaTeX for linguists page,  
but it would be nice to have a LyX-specific translation for  
newcomers. If one ends up doing everything in ERT, LyX loses some of  
its considerable charm!


I'd be happy to contribute what I've learned about the tasks above.  
(I don't know how to do everything in that list, though.)


Maria

On Feb 17, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Stacia Hartleben wrote:


I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
support? That makes me really sad :(

On 2/17/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Herbert Voss wrote:

do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst- 
jftree/


Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/


I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.

Jürgen

Re: xforms needed question

[Tom Poe]

Jose' Matos wrote:


On Friday 17 February 2006 02:30, Tom Poe wrote:
 


Stephen:  Well, futzed around, then decided to log out, set session to
KDE, and ran the command, 'yum xforms'.  It worked magically!  This was
my first experience with yum.  I then ran the command 'yum install lyx'
and again, magic!  I am now up and running.  Thanks, much!
Installed: lyx.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
Dependency Installed: aiksaurus.i386 1:1.2.1-7 lyx-qt.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
mathml-fonts.noarch 0:1.0-19.fc4
Complete!
   



 Ah, you could have told that you are using FC-4, :-)
 Some of us in the devel team use it.

 The packager for Fedora Extras, Rex Dieter from kde-redhat is very 
responsive so you are in good hands. :-)


 OT here, if you use KDE and Fedora I suggest you to visit 
http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/


 


Tom
   



 All the best,
 

Hi, Jose:  Thanks, much.  I just installed FC4, and am back to using 
Gnome session.  I just brought up a Lyx file, and checked for DVI 
feature.  In a little while, I'll edit the file and see how it treats my 
1.34? file.  I was using FC1, before.

Tom

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Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Stacia Hartleben]

I tried to get Covington (numbered examples) working but I can't seem
to do it using this same method. Everyone please vote on this bug at
bugzilla, or add comments: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325

It's obvious LyX can support this stuff, we just have to get it
implemented in a better way! I noticed when I went back to my
document, it forgot to do instant preview until I clicked the formula
boxes a bunch of times, which was inconvenient.

It's also bad that after just learning this, the support will go away
in LyX 1.4. Please vote on this bug too, to reintroduce xymatrix
support:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2238


On 2/17/06, Maria Gouskova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stacia, this is great--I thought the only way to do trees and IPA in
 LyX was in ERT. I don't know how many linguists are on this list, but
 what do people think of starting a wiki page LyX for Linguists,
 similar to LaTeX for linguists?

 http://www.essex.ac.uk/linguistics/clmt/latex4ling/

 Linguists, as opposed to, say mathematicians, have pretty specific
 typographic and formatting needs that aren't obvious in LyX, such as:

 - a numbered paragraph environment, in parentheses, with numbering
 sequential throughout the document
 - table editing: double lines, dashed lines, shaded table cells (for
 Optimality Theory)
 - pointy hand symbol (for Optimality Theory)
 - IPA fonts
 - trees, syntactic and autosegmental/prosodic
 - aligned glosses
 - math symbols intermingled with phonetic symbols
 - switching from one language's orthography to another in the same
 document/paragraph/line

 Some of this is covered on Doug Arnold's LaTeX for linguists page,
 but it would be nice to have a LyX-specific translation for
 newcomers. If one ends up doing everything in ERT, LyX loses some of
 its considerable charm!

 I'd be happy to contribute what I've learned about the tasks above.
 (I don't know how to do everything in that list, though.)

 Maria

 On Feb 17, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Stacia Hartleben wrote:

  I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
  really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
  support? That makes me really sad :(
 
  On 2/17/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Herbert Voss wrote:
  do you know the following packages?
 
  Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees
 
  typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-
  jftree/
 
  Linguistic: autosegmental representations
  http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/
 
  I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.
 
  Jürgen
 

text figures and lining figures

[mail.k]

Can anyone tell me how to use oldstyle figures in my body text (i.e., 
text figures or the j version of the fonts)


and lining figures for my footnotes (the x version of the font)?

I prefer the appearance of osf, but in the footnotes I must use a more 
scientific look.




(I've asked this question about six weeks ago, but no one knew at the time).



Many thanks,


Eran

XY-Pic and LyX

[H. Peter Gumm]

Hi all,

rumors are that LyX 1.4 is not going to support XY-Pic
anymore. I cannot believe that the developers are serious
about this. If they were, the reasons for me to use LyX
would be gone. To name these reasons specifically, they
are:
  Instant-preview
  XY-Pic
and, last but not least Uwe's installer, which makes it
so easy to get LyX up and running under Windows.

Ironically, the two bugs that are reported in bugzilla
regarding XY-Pic can be circumvented. I have just found
two easy solutions and documented them in a new chapter
Hacks of my manual Using XY-Pic in LyX at
 http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/LyX/xypic/xypic.pdf

(The html-translation - supplied by Stephen Harris - has not
yet been updated.)

Let the developers know, that there is no demand for a
new version if is less than the existing one.

H.Peter

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Text of diagram with the font of the main document

[Paul Smith]

Dear All

I have a diagram which I can export as PNG, JPG, PDF or SVG. What
should I do so that the text of the diagram appears with the same font
of the main document? Is that possible?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: LyX on Cygwin

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: LyX on Cygwin



Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin

Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
(replace x   ^ to match your archive name)

I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.

I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.


Well, x could also mean 0pre5 ;-)


The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.


Are you sure? The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded from
ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/ had one ...



Yes, I am sure that in both lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 (or tar.gz)
there is no configure file. Nor is there an autogen.sh file
nor a configure.ac. All of those files are missing, the ones
you would normally expect to see in lyx-devel.


I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/


As regards cvs, it's simply a matter of running ./autogen.sh.
However, if you followed the directions, the script lyxconfig-cygwin
should have informed you that configure was missing and should have
also suggested what to do... run autogen.sh in the same directory
containing configure.ac:

 cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
 ./autogen.sh

Please, tell me if something is not clear.

--
Enrico




 cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
 ./autogen.sh


I don't see how it is possible to run this command as the files
are non-existent. The files can be found in the cvs lyx-devel
directory, but your instructions don't say to use cvs for 
obtaining installation files which don't come as bz2 or tar.gz

you say Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src

(replace x   ^ to match your archive name)


I've already had the experience of not being able to compile
the cvs files, but I was able to compile Lyx1.4.0pre3, so it is
by no means certain that one can just adapt your configure
switches to the current cvs files.

Lyx1.4.0pre3 came with about 20 files not contained in
Lyx1.4.0pre5. Since you say the files were contained 


The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded ... had one

it seems that somebody has deleted files from 
lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 and tar.gz for that matter and repackaged.

(no configure, configure.ac or autogen.sh plus many others)

The problem I reported remains just as murky,
Stephen

Re: Minimal LyX installation

[Paul A. Rubin]

Gunnar wrote:
What is the bare minimum for a LyX installation if the only thing that should 
be done is writing new LyX documents and producing pdf's?


LyX, LaTeX, ghostscript, what else? As I remember, the LyX installer installed 
both Perl and Python. Will LyX work without them?


The reason for asking is that the amount of installed software should be kept 
at a minimum.




Perl is not needed unless you need to convert TeX files to LyX (or maybe 
old LyX files to newer LyX formats).  I don't have Perl installed and 
have suffered from its absence.


Python is a different story.  At least through version 1.3.7 (don't know 
about 1.4.x), a Python script is used to do graphics conversions, in 
particular (in 1.3.7) to go from DraftDVI (DVI with no images) to DVI 
(with images).  So if you want to view DVI files with images, you'll 
need Python.  I'm not sure whether it's used by the export commands (in 
particular, exporting PDF).


/Paul

Re: Using XY packages

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 07:35:14PM -0600, Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 Wow, I actually did get it to work, which is sad since the support is
 going away in 1.4!

It will come back.

If I had known that only a single person was actively using that thing I
would not have removed it.

Andre'

Re: LyX on Cygwin

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
  the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.
  
  Are you sure? The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded from
  ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/ had one ...
  
 
 Yes, I am sure that in both lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 (or tar.gz)
 there is no configure file. Nor is there an autogen.sh file
 nor a configure.ac. All of those files are missing, the ones
 you would normally expect to see in lyx-devel.

Just to be sure I have downloaded again
ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2
and those files are there...

   cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
   ./autogen.sh
 
 I don't see how it is possible to run this command as the files
 are non-existent. The files can be found in the cvs lyx-devel
 directory, but your instructions don't say to use cvs for 
 obtaining installation files which don't come as bz2 or tar.gz
 you say Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
  (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)

But the files *are* there...
Anyway, things do not change with a cvs version, simply replace
lyx-1.4.x with lyx-devel ;-)

 I've already had the experience of not being able to compile
 the cvs files, but I was able to compile Lyx1.4.0pre3, so it is
 by no means certain that one can just adapt your configure
 switches to the current cvs files.

Try it, it should work.

 Lyx1.4.0pre3 came with about 20 files not contained in
 Lyx1.4.0pre5. Since you say the files were contained 
 
 The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded ... had one
 
 it seems that somebody has deleted files from 
 lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 and tar.gz for that matter and repackaged.
 (no configure, configure.ac or autogen.sh plus many others)

I think that nobody did that ;-)
It may be a problem with the software you used to unpack the archive.
Try using the cygwin tools:

   cd /usr/local/src
   tar jxvf /path/to/lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2
or
   tar zxvf /path/to/lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.gz

if you downloaded the .gz version.

 The problem I reported remains just as murky,

Don't be desperate, try again. I am sure it is not so difficult.
Did you succeeded in compiling Qt?

--
Enrico

LyX fails picture conversion

[Paul Smith]

Dear All

I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run

View -- PDF (pdflatex)

I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
appears the following:

$ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.
$

Any clue?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: LyX fails picture conversion

[Paul A. Rubin]

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All

I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run

View -- PDF (pdflatex)

I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
appears the following:

$ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.
$

Any clue?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



LyX calls the convertDefault.sh shell script to convert your EPS file 
into another format (not sure which, possibly PDF).  The shell script in 
turn calls the ImageMagick convert utility, which apparently failed. 
The error message you got was from the shell script, so we don't know 
what (if any) error message convert issued.


From a command prompt in the directory containing the EPS file, try

convert myfile.eps myfile.pdf

and see if (a) convert runs and (b) it pulls off the conversion 
successfully.  If so, chances are it's something like LyX not having 
permission to run convert or LyX not supplying the right path to the 
image file.  If convert fails, hopefully it will give an informative 
error.  If you can't run convert, that in itself will tell you something.


HTH,
/Paul


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Re: Text of diagram with the font of the main document

[Paul A. Rubin]

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All

I have a diagram which I can export as PNG, JPG, PDF or SVG. What
should I do so that the text of the diagram appears with the same font
of the main document? Is that possible?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



Whether you can annotate the diagram in the same font boils down to 
whether (a) the program used to generate the diagram gives you control 
over fonts and (b) if so, whether it knows/has access to the font used 
by the main document.  The other thing to keep in mind is that if you 
export an image and then import it and scale it, the font gets scaled 
with everything else; so you may end up with the right type face but at 
a different size.


/Paul

Re: software manuals using Lyx

[John Pye]

What version was it that you tried with? I think (am hoping) that 1.3.7 
and then 1.4 should be better...


Cheers
JP

Bo Peng wrote:


Can anyone tell me if there is an up-to-date HOWTO somewhere for using
Lyx for DocBook output of software user's manuals?
   



Personally I am using python/manual.cls and an adapted layout file.
This works reasonably well but there is no chm output and other fancy
stuff.

I tried the lyx/docbook before, following the same kinds of tutorials,
but none of them worked. This may be because I am not familiar with
XML/docbook etc but the bizarre error messages, incompatible tool
sets, limited support from lyx  really dismayed me. Maybe things have
been better now.

Cheers,
Bo

 

Re: LyX fails picture conversion

[Paul Smith]

On 2/17/06, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run
 
  View -- PDF (pdflatex)
 
  I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
  appears the following:
 
  $ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
  Execution of convert failed.
  $
 
  Any clue?

 LyX calls the convertDefault.sh shell script to convert your EPS file
 into another format (not sure which, possibly PDF).  The shell script in
 turn calls the ImageMagick convert utility, which apparently failed.
 The error message you got was from the shell script, so we don't know
 what (if any) error message convert issued.

  From a command prompt in the directory containing the EPS file, try

 convert myfile.eps myfile.pdf

 and see if (a) convert runs and (b) it pulls off the conversion
 successfully.  If so, chances are it's something like LyX not having
 permission to run convert or LyX not supplying the right path to the
 image file.  If convert fails, hopefully it will give an informative
 error.  If you can't run convert, that in itself will tell you something.

Thanks, Paul. In fact, the command

convert myfile.eps myfile.pdf

does the job correctly. Probably, the problem has to be with LyX.

Paul

Re: Text of diagram with the font of the main document

[Paul Smith]

On 2/17/06, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a diagram which I can export as PNG, JPG, PDF or SVG. What
  should I do so that the text of the diagram appears with the same font
  of the main document? Is that possible?

 Whether you can annotate the diagram in the same font boils down to
 whether (a) the program used to generate the diagram gives you control
 over fonts and (b) if so, whether it knows/has access to the font used
 by the main document.  The other thing to keep in mind is that if you
 export an image and then import it and scale it, the font gets scaled
 with everything else; so you may end up with the right type face but at
 a different size.

Thanks again, Paul. If one looks inside a SVG file with a text editor,
one can see some names of fonts, and furthermore one can observe that
SVG format looks like a programming language. Because of that, I
simply wonder whether there is some program to change the fonts on a
SVG picture.

Paul

vspace between sections and figures help!

[Myriam Abramson]

I've 
\setlength{\parskip {-1pt}}

but that seems only to affect the vertical space between
paragraphs. How can I set the vertical space length between sections
and figures?

It's quite urgent as I am trying to fit this paper into a ridiculous
6-page limit.

TIA
-- 
   myriam

Re: vspace between sections and figures help!

[Marcelo Acuña]

 I've 
 \setlength{\parskip {-1pt}}
 
 but that seems only to affect the vertical space
 between
 paragraphs. How can I set the vertical space length
 between sections
 and figures?

If you use titlesec package you get total control over
title of section: font size, space before and after
title, etc. I don't remember but I think that this
package is presente in standard distribution of latex
with documentation. Is ease to use.
About fig I think that you can insert a vertical space
form menu.
Marcelo




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Re: LyX fails picture conversion

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: LyX fails picture conversion


Dear All

I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run

View -- PDF (pdflatex)

I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
appears the following:

$ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.
$

Any clue?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Well you know pdlatex reads jpeg, png and pdf image files. 
On windows, epstopdf.exe found in the Latex directory

will convert: epstopdf image.eps will produce image.pdf

Maybe Tetex has the command eps2pdf. But anyway I can
view those files using the dvipdfm option, usually. First
View-DVI then next View-dvipdfm

This does some conversion and invokes the xpdf viewer.
Then you can use File-Save copy as (iirc) 
to put the file where you want it. Works with LyX137


Regards,
Stephen

Re: lyx 1.4.0pre minor problems

[Marcelo Acuña]

  4) I lost feature: in paragraph settings I can´t
 find
  skip spaces for before and after. This feature was
  present in 1.3.6.
 
   Hi Marcelo,
   this is present but elsewhere, search for
 Insert-Special Character-Vertical 
 Space
 
Yes, I found it. Thanks.
Now, I can´t find Navigate to next error. 
Marcelo




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Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Maria Gouskova]

I tried to get Covington (numbered examples) working but I can't seem
to do it using this same method. Everyone please vote on this bug at
bugzilla, or add comments: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325


I've set up covington by wiring it in as a paragraph environment and  
modifying the default article class. The general instructions for  
doing the latter can be found at http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ 
lyx/index.htm#textclass_mod_tut.


This will not display the numbers themselves in the LyX file, but  
everything (including the cross-references) will typeset correctly in  
the PDF. In the LyX file, the numbered example lines will appear as  
blue text. As for the layout file itself, mine looks as follows. Save  
it as something like article_numbered.layout and copy it to the  
layouts folder of your LyX app support directory.


#% #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article]{article (+Numbered)}
# Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
# Author : Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Transposed by Pascal Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Heavily modifed and enhanced by several developers.

# Input general definitions
Input stdclass.inc

# There are no chapters in an article.
NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*

MaxCounter  Counter_Section
SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3

Preamble
\usepackage{covington}
\newenvironment{numbered}{\begin {example} }{\end{example}}
EndPreamble

Style Numbered
LatexType   Environment
LatexName   numbered
Align   Left
AlignPossible   Left

Font
Color   Blue
EndFont
End

Minimal LyX installation

[Gunnar]

What is the bare minimum for a LyX installation if the only thing that should 
be done is writing new LyX documents and producing pdf's?

LyX, LaTeX, ghostscript, what else? As I remember, the LyX installer installed 
both Perl and Python. Will LyX work without them?

The reason for asking is that the amount of installed software should be kept 
at a minimum.

Re: side-by-side installation of 1.3.7 and 1.4.0

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Maybe that sounded complicated, but it takes less than
 15 seconds to switch back and forth by renaming folders. 
 I don't know if it is this easy using Linux, but there should
 be a way.

You need not renaming your folders. Call one folder LyX137 and the other
LyX140 (place them wherever you want, too), than in your batch files
call the lyx binary using the -userdir option to point it to the
location of the right folder.

C:\LyX\bin\lyx.exe -userdir C:\whatever\LyX137  - for lyx 1.3.7
C:\LyX140\bin\lyx.exe -userdir C:\whatever\LyX140   - for lyx 1.4.0

--
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LyX on Cygwin

[Stephen Harris]

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin

Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
   (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)

I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.

I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.

The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.

The Pre3 release had a configure file but that isn't
worthwhile trying to build. 


I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/


Regards,
Stephen

Re: Default behaviour of float

[Enrico Forestieri]

Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there some way (e.g. in a .layout) to tell LyX to automatically
 center the contents of a float environment (image and caption)?

Put the following in the preamble:

\renewenvironment{figure}[1][]{%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\centering
  }{%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  }

--
Enrico

Re: LyX on Cygwin

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin
 
 Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
 (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)
 
 I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.
 
 I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.

Well, x could also mean 0pre5 ;-)

 The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
 the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.

Are you sure? The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded from
ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/ had one ...

 The Pre3 release had a configure file but that isn't
 worthwhile trying to build. 
 
 I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
 configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
 Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
 And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
 The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
 was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/

As regards cvs, it's simply a matter of running ./autogen.sh.
However, if you followed the directions, the script lyxconfig-cygwin
should have informed you that configure was missing and should have
also suggested what to do... run autogen.sh in the same directory
containing configure.ac:

  cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
  ./autogen.sh

Please, tell me if something is not clear.

--
Enrico

Re: xforms needed question

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 17 February 2006 02:30, Tom Poe wrote:
 Stephen:  Well, futzed around, then decided to log out, set session to
 KDE, and ran the command, 'yum xforms'.  It worked magically!  This was
 my first experience with yum.  I then ran the command 'yum install lyx'
 and again, magic!  I am now up and running.  Thanks, much!
 Installed: lyx.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
 Dependency Installed: aiksaurus.i386 1:1.2.1-7 lyx-qt.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
 mathml-fonts.noarch 0:1.0-19.fc4
 Complete!

  Ah, you could have told that you are using FC-4, :-)
  Some of us in the devel team use it.

  The packager for Fedora Extras, Rex Dieter from kde-redhat is very 
responsive so you are in good hands. :-)

  OT here, if you use KDE and Fedora I suggest you to visit 
http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

 Tom

  All the best,
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Re: LyX on Mac --Very first draft of a visual installation guide

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Anders Ekberg wrote:

 Thanks Christian,
 
 I will try to upload the pictures and add additional material (you're  
 right, the example files could be good). I will also try to continue  
 with instruction on how to add templates, etc. Unfortunately I'm  
 locked up until the end of next week, so it may take some time.

No worries there, just ask if you run into any problems.

/C

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Re: I need workaround of encoding problem

[Helge Hafting]

Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters
and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell.
 



 


Common problem for unicode users, because
lyx doesn't support unicode.  That cause trouble
when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx
gives it iso8859 encoded text.
Here's what I do:
1. Start an xterm or similiar command line
2. Figure out what LANG setting you have, like this:
echo $LANG
   



with this nothing is show.

 


I get nb_NO.UTF-8, you probably have something else.
Change to a LANG without the UTF-8 part. In my case:
export LANG=nb_NO

   


export LANG=es_ES

 


Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the
modified  language.  You should still get the lyx
GUI in your language, assuming it is translated.
And now the spellchecker works too. :-)
   


No work for me :-(
Lyx 1.4.0pre appears without menu, only
 


Strange.  If the menu isn't translated, then you should get
it in english instead.  This looks like a broken installation.


a icon bar, I clicked icon for file open
and, choose my file (saved with 1.4.0pre)
and I get error in conversion.
Then I open with lyx (from icon),
deleted list of fig,
repeat process and when I open the file
lyx go out (aborted) with an error message.

 


Fixing this is planned for lyx 1.5.0, which will
have unicode support.
Helge Hafting
   



Which is the date when You expect lyx 1.5.0 will be
released?
 


I can only guess - a year or two.  The spellchecker
and rest of lyx is supposed to work fine when LANG
doesn't contain the UTF-8 part though.

The lack of unicode should not prevent you from using
ñ, you merely have to use an encoding where the ñ exist.
Unicode will allow all symbols in the same document, so
it becomes possible to mix russian, lating and greek letters
at the same time.

Helge Hafting

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 Hi there! I was messing around after looking at this tutorial
 (http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XY-pic) on how to get XY pic to work on LyX
 and I got some limited tree support with xytree and TIPA working!

That's nice indeed. Even if I knew we have some provisional code for tipa in 
our sources, I never figured out how to use it, and stuck with ERT.

I think you should create an info page on the LyX wiki for this.

 I heard that this support was going out in LyX
 1.4, but this makes me very sad. Since it's so easy to add the support
 for trees and TIPA like this, why not add it for real in the next
 release? I'm sure it would make many linguists very happy.

AFAIK xymatrix was removed because it was rather buggy. Anyway, I think 
there's interest to readd it again soon, maybe even enhance it, see:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2238

Concerning TIPA, I'm tempted to have a look in the next development cycle (for 
1.5), but don't hold your breath. There are so many things to do, and even if 
I'm a linguist myself, I don't need phonetic symbols frequently enough to get 
annoyed by the lacking support ;-)

Jürgen

footnotes and foot bibliography

[Romuald POTEAU]

Dear Lyx users,

I am writing a document with the bibliography given as footnotes, thanks 
to the footbib package. I would like to insert comments, usually given 
as footnotes, as a part of the bibliography. In other words, is it 
possible to number these comments within the numbering scheme of the 
bibliography.


...
[2] W. Heisenberg, /Z. Phys/ (1929) 167
[3] Coupled-Cluster methods provide numerical results considered as very 
accurate

[4] A. Einstein/, Journal of  Physics/ (1935) 198
...

Thank you very much,
Romuald Poteau

Re: xforms needed question

[Rex Dieter]

Tom Poe wrote:
I checked for xforms download, and ran into problems trying to locate 
the proper file.  The Redhat link for rpm, for example, gave me an error 
message that it couldn't change ftp directory.  Does anyone know where I 
can download Xforms files?  Or, should I try to use QT, and follow the 
INSTALL directions?  I'm using the Gnome GUI, not the KDE GUI.

Here's message when I tried to install 1.3.7 on FC4:


FYI, xforms, lyx-1.3.7 (with lyx-qt and lyx-xforms) are available from 
Fedora Extras.


-- Rex

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Concerning TIPA, I'm tempted to have a look in the next development cycle (for 
1.5), but don't hold your breath. There are so many things to do, and even if 
I'm a linguist myself, I don't need phonetic symbols frequently enough to get 
annoyed by the lacking support ;-)


do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

Herbert

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Herbert Voss wrote:
 do you know the following packages?

 Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

 typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

 Linguistic: autosegmental representations
 http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.

Jürgen

RE: Creating an Index

[Jack M. Lyon]

Helge Hafting wrote:

 Showing the generated index is indeed possible, by
 using the existing mechanism for showing rendered formulas.  Well,
 it takes a lot more time as you typically need to render the entire
 document to get the page numbers.  So index preview should
 be optional.

Another option might be to show the constructed index but *without* the
page numbers. Usually indexers don't care so much about seeing the
actual page numbers, but they do care about seeing the *structure* of
the index as they work. An index *with* page numbers might look like
this:

Aker, 317; two lions of figure of, 185
Akhenaton, 149, 252
Akhmim, 26
Alexandria, 141

But it could also be displayed *without* page numbers, like this:

Aker, ?; two lions of figure of, ?
Akhenaton, ?, ?
Akhmim, ?
Alexandria, ?

Or something along those lines.

Maybe give users the option.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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 -Original Message-
 From: Helge Hafting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
 Subject: Re: Creating an Index
 
 
 Jack M. Lyon wrote:
 
 Helge Hafting wrote:
 
   
 
 the index is normally _not_ for documenting
 every occurence of some word.
 
 
 
 Amen.
 
 How about creating a real indexing feature for LyX that would allow
 users to index a document in the way Helge has described:
 
   
 
 I did it the other way around, I
 read the manuscript and indexed every important concept
 I came across.
 
 
 
 Sorry if this sounds like a plug--I really mean it as a suggested
 addition to LyX--but you might look at my indexing add-in 
 for MS Word as
 a model for what could be done in LyX:
 
 http://www.editorium.com/dexter.htm
 
   
 
 Interesting!
 
 Indexing is done, by hand, in a sortable table. After the entries are
 finished, they're embedded in the document.
 
 For LyX, it might be possible to do this even more 
 elegantly, by showing
 the generated index every time the document is generated 
 with LaTeX, or,
 better still, by showing it (updated) in the LyX UI every 
 time an index
 entry is added to or modified in the table.
 
 It's important for the indexer to be able to see and edit all index
 entries in the same place and at the same time rather than just have
 them spread througout the document--hence, the table.
 
 Wow, this would be a *cool* feature for LyX. What do you think?
   
 
 It'd be a cool feature, sure.  And very useful.  Lyx being 
 open source means
 this can be integrated rather than being an add-on. I think 
 the perfect
 solution would be to still have all the index entries spread 
 throughout the
 document - so that they move around automatically as I cut/copy and
 paste.  But there should also be this table view for smart 
 editing of
 the index.  Showing the generated index is indeed possible, by
 using the existing mechanism for showing rendered formulas.  Well,
 it takes a lot more time as you typically need to render the entire
 document to get the page numbers.  So index preview should
 be optional. 
 
 Helge Hafting
 
 
 
 

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Herbert Voss wrote:


do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/



I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.


here are some examples with code

http://perce.de/pub/linguistic.pdf

Herbert

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Stacia Hartleben]

I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
support? That makes me really sad :(

On 2/17/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Herbert Voss wrote:
  do you know the following packages?
 
  Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees
 
  typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/
 
  Linguistic: autosegmental representations
  http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

 I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.

 Jürgen

RE: Creating an Index

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Jack M. Lyon wrote:


Usually indexers don't care so much about seeing the actual page numbers,
but they do care about seeing the *structure* of the index as they work.


  Which brings up another issue that might be a wrench in the gears:
different standards for indexes (e.g., British vs. American) and publisher or
subject area preferences.

  I was, of course, totally ignorant of all this until I read Nancy Mulvany's
book and learned that my publisher does not hire professional indexers, but
leaves us authors to struggle through the process all alone.

Rich

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Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
 really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
 support? That makes me really sad :(

at least the tipa part will be useful.

Jürgen

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Herbert Voss wrote:
 here are some examples with code

I see that your book grew quite a bit ;-)

Jürgen

Re: software manuals using Lyx

[Bo Peng]

 Can anyone tell me if there is an up-to-date HOWTO somewhere for using
 Lyx for DocBook output of software user's manuals?

Personally I am using python/manual.cls and an adapted layout file.
This works reasonably well but there is no chm output and other fancy
stuff.

I tried the lyx/docbook before, following the same kinds of tutorials,
but none of them worked. This may be because I am not familiar with
XML/docbook etc but the bizarre error messages, incompatible tool
sets, limited support from lyx  really dismayed me. Maybe things have
been better now.

Cheers,
Bo

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Maria Gouskova]

Stacia, this is great--I thought the only way to do trees and IPA in  
LyX was in ERT. I don't know how many linguists are on this list, but  
what do people think of starting a wiki page LyX for Linguists,  
similar to LaTeX for linguists?


http://www.essex.ac.uk/linguistics/clmt/latex4ling/

Linguists, as opposed to, say mathematicians, have pretty specific  
typographic and formatting needs that aren't obvious in LyX, such as:


- a numbered paragraph environment, in parentheses, with numbering  
sequential throughout the document
- table editing: double lines, dashed lines, shaded table cells (for  
Optimality Theory)

- pointy hand symbol (for Optimality Theory)
- IPA fonts
- trees, syntactic and autosegmental/prosodic
- aligned glosses
- math symbols intermingled with phonetic symbols
- switching from one language's orthography to another in the same  
document/paragraph/line


Some of this is covered on Doug Arnold's LaTeX for linguists page,  
but it would be nice to have a LyX-specific translation for  
newcomers. If one ends up doing everything in ERT, LyX loses some of  
its considerable charm!


I'd be happy to contribute what I've learned about the tasks above.  
(I don't know how to do everything in that list, though.)


Maria

On Feb 17, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Stacia Hartleben wrote:


I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
support? That makes me really sad :(

On 2/17/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Herbert Voss wrote:

do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst- 
jftree/


Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/


I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.

Jürgen

Re: xforms needed question

[Tom Poe]

Jose' Matos wrote:


On Friday 17 February 2006 02:30, Tom Poe wrote:
 


Stephen:  Well, futzed around, then decided to log out, set session to
KDE, and ran the command, 'yum xforms'.  It worked magically!  This was
my first experience with yum.  I then ran the command 'yum install lyx'
and again, magic!  I am now up and running.  Thanks, much!
Installed: lyx.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
Dependency Installed: aiksaurus.i386 1:1.2.1-7 lyx-qt.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
mathml-fonts.noarch 0:1.0-19.fc4
Complete!
   



 Ah, you could have told that you are using FC-4, :-)
 Some of us in the devel team use it.

 The packager for Fedora Extras, Rex Dieter from kde-redhat is very 
responsive so you are in good hands. :-)


 OT here, if you use KDE and Fedora I suggest you to visit 
http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/


 


Tom
   



 All the best,
 

Hi, Jose:  Thanks, much.  I just installed FC4, and am back to using 
Gnome session.  I just brought up a Lyx file, and checked for DVI 
feature.  In a little while, I'll edit the file and see how it treats my 
1.34? file.  I was using FC1, before.

Tom

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Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Stacia Hartleben]

I tried to get Covington (numbered examples) working but I can't seem
to do it using this same method. Everyone please vote on this bug at
bugzilla, or add comments: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325

It's obvious LyX can support this stuff, we just have to get it
implemented in a better way! I noticed when I went back to my
document, it forgot to do instant preview until I clicked the formula
boxes a bunch of times, which was inconvenient.

It's also bad that after just learning this, the support will go away
in LyX 1.4. Please vote on this bug too, to reintroduce xymatrix
support:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2238


On 2/17/06, Maria Gouskova [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stacia, this is great--I thought the only way to do trees and IPA in
 LyX was in ERT. I don't know how many linguists are on this list, but
 what do people think of starting a wiki page LyX for Linguists,
 similar to LaTeX for linguists?

 http://www.essex.ac.uk/linguistics/clmt/latex4ling/

 Linguists, as opposed to, say mathematicians, have pretty specific
 typographic and formatting needs that aren't obvious in LyX, such as:

 - a numbered paragraph environment, in parentheses, with numbering
 sequential throughout the document
 - table editing: double lines, dashed lines, shaded table cells (for
 Optimality Theory)
 - pointy hand symbol (for Optimality Theory)
 - IPA fonts
 - trees, syntactic and autosegmental/prosodic
 - aligned glosses
 - math symbols intermingled with phonetic symbols
 - switching from one language's orthography to another in the same
 document/paragraph/line

 Some of this is covered on Doug Arnold's LaTeX for linguists page,
 but it would be nice to have a LyX-specific translation for
 newcomers. If one ends up doing everything in ERT, LyX loses some of
 its considerable charm!

 I'd be happy to contribute what I've learned about the tasks above.
 (I don't know how to do everything in that list, though.)

 Maria

 On Feb 17, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Stacia Hartleben wrote:

  I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
  really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
  support? That makes me really sad :(
 
  On 2/17/06, Juergen Spitzmueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Herbert Voss wrote:
  do you know the following packages?
 
  Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees
 
  typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-
  jftree/
 
  Linguistic: autosegmental representations
  http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/
 
  I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.
 
  Jürgen
 

text figures and lining figures

[mail.k]

Can anyone tell me how to use oldstyle figures in my body text (i.e., 
text figures or the j version of the fonts)


and lining figures for my footnotes (the x version of the font)?

I prefer the appearance of osf, but in the footnotes I must use a more 
scientific look.




(I've asked this question about six weeks ago, but no one knew at the time).



Many thanks,


Eran

XY-Pic and LyX

[H. Peter Gumm]

Hi all,

rumors are that LyX 1.4 is not going to support XY-Pic
anymore. I cannot believe that the developers are serious
about this. If they were, the reasons for me to use LyX
would be gone. To name these reasons specifically, they
are:
  Instant-preview
  XY-Pic
and, last but not least Uwe's installer, which makes it
so easy to get LyX up and running under Windows.

Ironically, the two bugs that are reported in bugzilla
regarding XY-Pic can be circumvented. I have just found
two easy solutions and documented them in a new chapter
Hacks of my manual Using XY-Pic in LyX at
 http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~gumm/LyX/xypic/xypic.pdf

(The html-translation - supplied by Stephen Harris - has not
yet been updated.)

Let the developers know, that there is no demand for a
new version if is less than the existing one.

H.Peter

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Text of diagram with the font of the main document

[Paul Smith]

Dear All

I have a diagram which I can export as PNG, JPG, PDF or SVG. What
should I do so that the text of the diagram appears with the same font
of the main document? Is that possible?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: LyX on Cygwin

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: LyX on Cygwin



Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin

Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
(replace x   ^ to match your archive name)

I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.

I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.


Well, x could also mean 0pre5 ;-)


The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.


Are you sure? The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded from
ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/ had one ...



Yes, I am sure that in both lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 (or tar.gz)
there is no configure file. Nor is there an autogen.sh file
nor a configure.ac. All of those files are missing, the ones
you would normally expect to see in lyx-devel.


I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/


As regards cvs, it's simply a matter of running ./autogen.sh.
However, if you followed the directions, the script lyxconfig-cygwin
should have informed you that configure was missing and should have
also suggested what to do... run autogen.sh in the same directory
containing configure.ac:

 cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
 ./autogen.sh

Please, tell me if something is not clear.

--
Enrico




 cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
 ./autogen.sh


I don't see how it is possible to run this command as the files
are non-existent. The files can be found in the cvs lyx-devel
directory, but your instructions don't say to use cvs for 
obtaining installation files which don't come as bz2 or tar.gz

you say Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src

(replace x   ^ to match your archive name)


I've already had the experience of not being able to compile
the cvs files, but I was able to compile Lyx1.4.0pre3, so it is
by no means certain that one can just adapt your configure
switches to the current cvs files.

Lyx1.4.0pre3 came with about 20 files not contained in
Lyx1.4.0pre5. Since you say the files were contained 


The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded ... had one

it seems that somebody has deleted files from 
lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 and tar.gz for that matter and repackaged.

(no configure, configure.ac or autogen.sh plus many others)

The problem I reported remains just as murky,
Stephen

Re: Minimal LyX installation

[Paul A. Rubin]

Gunnar wrote:
What is the bare minimum for a LyX installation if the only thing that should 
be done is writing new LyX documents and producing pdf's?


LyX, LaTeX, ghostscript, what else? As I remember, the LyX installer installed 
both Perl and Python. Will LyX work without them?


The reason for asking is that the amount of installed software should be kept 
at a minimum.




Perl is not needed unless you need to convert TeX files to LyX (or maybe 
old LyX files to newer LyX formats).  I don't have Perl installed and 
have suffered from its absence.


Python is a different story.  At least through version 1.3.7 (don't know 
about 1.4.x), a Python script is used to do graphics conversions, in 
particular (in 1.3.7) to go from DraftDVI (DVI with no images) to DVI 
(with images).  So if you want to view DVI files with images, you'll 
need Python.  I'm not sure whether it's used by the export commands (in 
particular, exporting PDF).


/Paul

Re: Using XY packages

[Andre Poenitz]

On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 07:35:14PM -0600, Stacia Hartleben wrote:
 Wow, I actually did get it to work, which is sad since the support is
 going away in 1.4!

It will come back.

If I had known that only a single person was actively using that thing I
would not have removed it.

Andre'

Re: LyX on Cygwin

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
  the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.
  
  Are you sure? The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded from
  ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/ had one ...
  
 
 Yes, I am sure that in both lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 (or tar.gz)
 there is no configure file. Nor is there an autogen.sh file
 nor a configure.ac. All of those files are missing, the ones
 you would normally expect to see in lyx-devel.

Just to be sure I have downloaded again
ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2
and those files are there...

   cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
   ./autogen.sh
 
 I don't see how it is possible to run this command as the files
 are non-existent. The files can be found in the cvs lyx-devel
 directory, but your instructions don't say to use cvs for 
 obtaining installation files which don't come as bz2 or tar.gz
 you say Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
  (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)

But the files *are* there...
Anyway, things do not change with a cvs version, simply replace
lyx-1.4.x with lyx-devel ;-)

 I've already had the experience of not being able to compile
 the cvs files, but I was able to compile Lyx1.4.0pre3, so it is
 by no means certain that one can just adapt your configure
 switches to the current cvs files.

Try it, it should work.

 Lyx1.4.0pre3 came with about 20 files not contained in
 Lyx1.4.0pre5. Since you say the files were contained 
 
 The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded ... had one
 
 it seems that somebody has deleted files from 
 lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 and tar.gz for that matter and repackaged.
 (no configure, configure.ac or autogen.sh plus many others)

I think that nobody did that ;-)
It may be a problem with the software you used to unpack the archive.
Try using the cygwin tools:

   cd /usr/local/src
   tar jxvf /path/to/lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2
or
   tar zxvf /path/to/lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.gz

if you downloaded the .gz version.

 The problem I reported remains just as murky,

Don't be desperate, try again. I am sure it is not so difficult.
Did you succeeded in compiling Qt?

--
Enrico

LyX fails picture conversion

[Paul Smith]

Dear All

I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run

View -- PDF (pdflatex)

I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
appears the following:

$ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.
$

Any clue?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Re: LyX fails picture conversion

[Paul A. Rubin]

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All

I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run

View -- PDF (pdflatex)

I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
appears the following:

$ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.
$

Any clue?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



LyX calls the convertDefault.sh shell script to convert your EPS file 
into another format (not sure which, possibly PDF).  The shell script in 
turn calls the ImageMagick convert utility, which apparently failed. 
The error message you got was from the shell script, so we don't know 
what (if any) error message convert issued.


From a command prompt in the directory containing the EPS file, try

convert myfile.eps myfile.pdf

and see if (a) convert runs and (b) it pulls off the conversion 
successfully.  If so, chances are it's something like LyX not having 
permission to run convert or LyX not supplying the right path to the 
image file.  If convert fails, hopefully it will give an informative 
error.  If you can't run convert, that in itself will tell you something.


HTH,
/Paul


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Re: Text of diagram with the font of the main document

[Paul A. Rubin]

Paul Smith wrote:

Dear All

I have a diagram which I can export as PNG, JPG, PDF or SVG. What
should I do so that the text of the diagram appears with the same font
of the main document? Is that possible?

Thanks in advance,

Paul



Whether you can annotate the diagram in the same font boils down to 
whether (a) the program used to generate the diagram gives you control 
over fonts and (b) if so, whether it knows/has access to the font used 
by the main document.  The other thing to keep in mind is that if you 
export an image and then import it and scale it, the font gets scaled 
with everything else; so you may end up with the right type face but at 
a different size.


/Paul

Re: software manuals using Lyx

[John Pye]

What version was it that you tried with? I think (am hoping) that 1.3.7 
and then 1.4 should be better...


Cheers
JP

Bo Peng wrote:


Can anyone tell me if there is an up-to-date HOWTO somewhere for using
Lyx for DocBook output of software user's manuals?
   



Personally I am using python/manual.cls and an adapted layout file.
This works reasonably well but there is no chm output and other fancy
stuff.

I tried the lyx/docbook before, following the same kinds of tutorials,
but none of them worked. This may be because I am not familiar with
XML/docbook etc but the bizarre error messages, incompatible tool
sets, limited support from lyx  really dismayed me. Maybe things have
been better now.

Cheers,
Bo

 

Re: LyX fails picture conversion

[Paul Smith]

On 2/17/06, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run
 
  View -- PDF (pdflatex)
 
  I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
  appears the following:
 
  $ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
  Execution of convert failed.
  $
 
  Any clue?

 LyX calls the convertDefault.sh shell script to convert your EPS file
 into another format (not sure which, possibly PDF).  The shell script in
 turn calls the ImageMagick convert utility, which apparently failed.
 The error message you got was from the shell script, so we don't know
 what (if any) error message convert issued.

  From a command prompt in the directory containing the EPS file, try

 convert myfile.eps myfile.pdf

 and see if (a) convert runs and (b) it pulls off the conversion
 successfully.  If so, chances are it's something like LyX not having
 permission to run convert or LyX not supplying the right path to the
 image file.  If convert fails, hopefully it will give an informative
 error.  If you can't run convert, that in itself will tell you something.

Thanks, Paul. In fact, the command

convert myfile.eps myfile.pdf

does the job correctly. Probably, the problem has to be with LyX.

Paul

Re: Text of diagram with the font of the main document

[Paul Smith]

On 2/17/06, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a diagram which I can export as PNG, JPG, PDF or SVG. What
  should I do so that the text of the diagram appears with the same font
  of the main document? Is that possible?

 Whether you can annotate the diagram in the same font boils down to
 whether (a) the program used to generate the diagram gives you control
 over fonts and (b) if so, whether it knows/has access to the font used
 by the main document.  The other thing to keep in mind is that if you
 export an image and then import it and scale it, the font gets scaled
 with everything else; so you may end up with the right type face but at
 a different size.

Thanks again, Paul. If one looks inside a SVG file with a text editor,
one can see some names of fonts, and furthermore one can observe that
SVG format looks like a programming language. Because of that, I
simply wonder whether there is some program to change the fonts on a
SVG picture.

Paul

vspace between sections and figures help!

[Myriam Abramson]

I've 
\setlength{\parskip {-1pt}}

but that seems only to affect the vertical space between
paragraphs. How can I set the vertical space length between sections
and figures?

It's quite urgent as I am trying to fit this paper into a ridiculous
6-page limit.

TIA
-- 
   myriam

Re: vspace between sections and figures help!

[Marcelo Acuña]

 I've 
 \setlength{\parskip {-1pt}}
 
 but that seems only to affect the vertical space
 between
 paragraphs. How can I set the vertical space length
 between sections
 and figures?

If you use titlesec package you get total control over
title of section: font size, space before and after
title, etc. I don't remember but I think that this
package is presente in standard distribution of latex
with documentation. Is ease to use.
About fig I think that you can insert a vertical space
form menu.
Marcelo




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Re: LyX fails picture conversion

[Stephen Harris]

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: LyX fails picture conversion


Dear All

I have an EPS picture inserted in a LyX document. When I run

View -- PDF (pdflatex)

I do not get the picture on the PDF document. On the command line, it
appears the following:

$ /usr/share/lyx/scripts/convertDefault.sh ERROR
Execution of convert failed.
$

Any clue?

Thanks in advance,

Paul

Well you know pdlatex reads jpeg, png and pdf image files. 
On windows, epstopdf.exe found in the Latex directory

will convert: epstopdf image.eps will produce image.pdf

Maybe Tetex has the command eps2pdf. But anyway I can
view those files using the dvipdfm option, usually. First
View-DVI then next View-dvipdfm

This does some conversion and invokes the xpdf viewer.
Then you can use File-Save copy as (iirc) 
to put the file where you want it. Works with LyX137


Regards,
Stephen

Re: lyx 1.4.0pre minor problems

[Marcelo Acuña]

  4) I lost feature: in paragraph settings I can´t
 find
  skip spaces for before and after. This feature was
  present in 1.3.6.
 
   Hi Marcelo,
   this is present but elsewhere, search for
 Insert-Special Character-Vertical 
 Space
 
Yes, I found it. Thanks.
Now, I can´t find Navigate to next error. 
Marcelo




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Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Maria Gouskova]

I tried to get Covington (numbered examples) working but I can't seem
to do it using this same method. Everyone please vote on this bug at
bugzilla, or add comments: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325


I've set up covington by wiring it in as a paragraph environment and  
modifying the default article class. The general instructions for  
doing the latter can be found at http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ 
lyx/index.htm#textclass_mod_tut.


This will not display the numbers themselves in the LyX file, but  
everything (including the cross-references) will typeset correctly in  
the PDF. In the LyX file, the numbered example lines will appear as  
blue text. As for the layout file itself, mine looks as follows. Save  
it as something like article_numbered.layout and copy it to the  
layouts folder of your LyX app support directory.


#% #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[article]{article (+Numbered)}
# Article textclass definition file. Taken from initial LyX source code
# Author : Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Transposed by Pascal Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Heavily modifed and enhanced by several developers.

# Input general definitions
Input stdclass.inc

# There are no chapters in an article.
NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*

MaxCounter  Counter_Section
SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3

Preamble
\usepackage{covington}
\newenvironment{numbered}{\begin {example} }{\end{example}}
EndPreamble

Style Numbered
LatexType   Environment
LatexName   numbered
Align   Left
AlignPossible   Left

Font
Color   Blue
EndFont
End

Minimal LyX installation

[Gunnar]

What is the bare minimum for a LyX installation if the only thing that should 
be done is writing new LyX documents and producing pdf's?

LyX, LaTeX, ghostscript, what else? As I remember, the LyX installer installed 
both Perl and Python. Will LyX work without them?

The reason for asking is that the amount of installed software should be kept 
at a minimum.

Re: side-by-side installation of 1.3.7 and 1.4.0

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Maybe that sounded complicated, but it takes less than
> 15 seconds to switch back and forth by renaming folders. 
> I don't know if it is this easy using Linux, but there should
> be a way.

You need not renaming your folders. Call one folder LyX137 and the other
LyX140 (place them wherever you want, too), than in your batch files
call the lyx binary using the -userdir option to point it to the
location of the right folder.

C:\LyX\bin\lyx.exe -userdir C:\whatever\LyX137  <- for lyx 1.3.7
C:\LyX140\bin\lyx.exe -userdir C:\whatever\LyX140   <- for lyx 1.4.0

--
Enrico

LyX on Cygwin

[Stephen Harris]

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin

"Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
   (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)"

I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.

I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.

The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.

The Pre3 release had a configure file but that isn't
worthwhile trying to build. 


I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/


Regards,
Stephen

Re: Default behaviour of float

[Enrico Forestieri]

Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there some way (e.g. in a .layout) to tell LyX to automatically
> center the contents of a float environment (image and caption)?

Put the following in the preamble:

\renewenvironment{figure}[1][]{%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\centering
  }{%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  }

--
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Re: LyX on Cygwin

[Enrico Forestieri]

Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnCygwin
> 
> "Unpack lyx-1.4.x.tar.bz2 in /usr/local/src
> (replace x   ^ to match your archive name)"
> 
> I was reading over Enrico's detailed instructions.
> 
> I can't find a lyx 1.4.0.tar.bz2 or tar.gz for download.

Well, x could also mean 0pre5 ;-)

> The Pre5 doesn't have a configure file to execute
> the several ./configure switches in Enrico's Howto.

Are you sure? The lyx-1.4.0pre5.tar.bz2 archive I downloaded from
ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/ had one ...

> The Pre3 release had a configure file but that isn't
> worthwhile trying to build. 
> 
> I downloaded the current cvs and didn't find a
> configure file. I was wary of mixing Enricos'
> Cygwin instructions with the INSTALL notes. 
> And the cvs option is not offered in the Howto.
> The only download folder I found for lyx-1.4.x 
> was ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/pre/

As regards cvs, it's simply a matter of running ./autogen.sh.
However, if you followed the directions, the script lyxconfig-cygwin
should have informed you that configure was missing and should have
also suggested what to do... run autogen.sh in the same directory
containing configure.ac:

  cd lyx-1.4.0pre5
  ./autogen.sh

Please, tell me if something is not clear.

--
Enrico

Re: xforms needed question

[Jose' Matos]

On Friday 17 February 2006 02:30, Tom Poe wrote:
> Stephen:  Well, futzed around, then decided to log out, set session to
> KDE, and ran the command, 'yum xforms'.  It worked magically!  This was
> my first experience with yum.  I then ran the command 'yum install lyx'
> and again, magic!  I am now up and running.  Thanks, much!
> Installed: lyx.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
> Dependency Installed: aiksaurus.i386 1:1.2.1-7 lyx-qt.i386 0:1.3.7-5.fc4
> mathml-fonts.noarch 0:1.0-19.fc4
> Complete!

  Ah, you could have told that you are using FC-4, :-)
  Some of us in the devel team use it.

  The packager for Fedora Extras, Rex Dieter from kde-redhat is very 
responsive so you are in good hands. :-)

  OT here, if you use KDE and Fedora I suggest you to visit 
http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/

> Tom

  All the best,
-- 
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Re: LyX on Mac --Very first draft of a visual installation guide

[christian . ridderstrom]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Anders Ekberg wrote:

> Thanks Christian,
> 
> I will try to upload the pictures and add additional material (you're  
> right, the example files could be good). I will also try to continue  
> with instruction on how to add templates, etc. Unfortunately I'm  
> locked up until the end of next week, so it may take some time.

No worries there, just ask if you run into any problems.

/C

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Re: I need workaround of encoding problem

[Helge Hafting]

Marcelo Acuña wrote:


I can't to use spellchecker. Accented letters
and ñ, Ñ are not recognized by ispell, aspell.
 



 


Common problem for unicode users, because
lyx doesn't support unicode.  That cause trouble
when the spellchekcer expects unicode while lyx
gives it iso8859 encoded text.
Here's what I do:
1. Start an xterm or similiar command line
2. Figure out what LANG setting you have, like this:
echo $LANG
   



with this nothing is show.

 


I get nb_NO.UTF-8, you probably have something else.
Change to a LANG without the UTF-8 part. In my case:
export LANG=nb_NO

   


export LANG=es_ES

 


Then run lyx from the same xterm, so it uses the
modified  language.  You should still get the lyx
GUI in your language, assuming it is translated.
And now the spellchecker works too. :-)
   


No work for me :-(
Lyx 1.4.0pre appears without menu, only
 


Strange.  If the menu isn't translated, then you should get
it in english instead.  This looks like a broken installation.


a icon bar, I clicked icon for file open
and, choose my file (saved with 1.4.0pre)
and I get error in conversion.
Then I open with lyx (from icon),
deleted list of fig,
repeat process and when I open the file
lyx go out (aborted) with an error message.

 


Fixing this is planned for lyx 1.5.0, which will
have unicode support.
Helge Hafting
   



Which is the date when You expect lyx 1.5.0 will be
released?
 


I can only guess - a year or two.  The spellchecker
and rest of lyx is supposed to work fine when LANG
doesn't contain the UTF-8 part though.

The lack of unicode should not prevent you from using
ñ, you merely have to use an encoding where the ñ exist.
Unicode will allow all symbols in the same document, so
it becomes possible to mix russian, lating and greek letters
at the same time.

Helge Hafting

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Stacia Hartleben wrote:
> Hi there! I was messing around after looking at this tutorial
> (http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XY-pic) on how to get XY pic to work on LyX
> and I got some limited tree support with xytree and TIPA working!

That's nice indeed. Even if I knew we have some provisional code for tipa in 
our sources, I never figured out how to use it, and stuck with ERT.

I think you should create an info page on the LyX wiki for this.

> I heard that this support was going out in LyX
> 1.4, but this makes me very sad. Since it's so easy to add the support
> for trees and TIPA like this, why not add it for real in the next
> release? I'm sure it would make many linguists very happy.

AFAIK xymatrix was removed because it was rather buggy. Anyway, I think 
there's interest to readd it again soon, maybe even enhance it, see:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2238

Concerning TIPA, I'm tempted to have a look in the next development cycle (for 
1.5), but don't hold your breath. There are so many things to do, and even if 
I'm a linguist myself, I don't need phonetic symbols frequently enough to get 
annoyed by the lacking support ;-)

Jürgen

footnotes and foot bibliography

[Romuald POTEAU]

Dear Lyx users,

I am writing a document with the bibliography given as footnotes, thanks 
to the footbib package. I would like to insert comments, usually given 
as footnotes, as a part of the bibliography. In other words, is it 
possible to number these comments within the numbering scheme of the 
bibliography.


...
[2] W. Heisenberg, /Z. Phys/ (1929) 167
[3] Coupled-Cluster methods provide numerical results considered as very 
accurate

[4] A. Einstein/, Journal of  Physics/ (1935) 198
...

Thank you very much,
Romuald Poteau

Re: xforms needed question

[Rex Dieter]

Tom Poe wrote:
I checked for xforms download, and ran into problems trying to locate 
the proper file.  The Redhat link for rpm, for example, gave me an error 
message that it couldn't change ftp directory.  Does anyone know where I 
can download Xforms files?  Or, should I try to use QT, and follow the 
INSTALL directions?  I'm using the Gnome GUI, not the KDE GUI.

Here's message when I tried to install 1.3.7 on FC4:


FYI, xforms, lyx-1.3.7 (with lyx-qt and lyx-xforms) are available from 
Fedora Extras.


-- Rex

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Concerning TIPA, I'm tempted to have a look in the next development cycle (for 
1.5), but don't hold your breath. There are so many things to do, and even if 
I'm a linguist myself, I don't need phonetic symbols frequently enough to get 
annoyed by the lacking support ;-)


do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

Herbert

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Herbert Voss wrote:
> do you know the following packages?
>
> Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees
>
> typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/
>
> Linguistic: autosegmental representations
> http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/

I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.

Jürgen

RE: Creating an Index

[Jack M. Lyon]

Helge Hafting wrote:

> Showing the generated index is indeed possible, by
> using the existing mechanism for showing rendered formulas.  Well,
> it takes a lot more time as you typically need to render the entire
> document to get the page numbers.  So "index preview" should
> be optional.

Another option might be to show the constructed index but *without* the
page numbers. Usually indexers don't care so much about seeing the
actual page numbers, but they do care about seeing the *structure* of
the index as they work. An index *with* page numbers might look like
this:

Aker, 317; two lions of figure of, 185
Akhenaton, 149, 252
Akhmim, 26
Alexandria, 141

But it could also be displayed *without* page numbers, like this:

Aker, ?; two lions of figure of, ?
Akhenaton, ?, ?
Akhmim, ?
Alexandria, ?

Or something along those lines.

Maybe give users the option.

Best wishes,
Jack M. Lyon
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> -Original Message-
> From: Helge Hafting [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: Creating an Index
> 
> 
> Jack M. Lyon wrote:
> 
> >Helge Hafting wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>the index is normally _not_ for documenting
> >>every occurence of some word.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Amen.
> >
> >How about creating a real indexing feature for LyX that would allow
> >users to index a document in the way Helge has described:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>I did it the other way around, I
> >>read the manuscript and indexed every important concept
> >>I came across.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Sorry if this sounds like a plug--I really mean it as a suggested
> >addition to LyX--but you might look at my indexing add-in 
> for MS Word as
> >a model for what could be done in LyX:
> >
> >http://www.editorium.com/dexter.htm
> >
> >  
> >
> Interesting!
> 
> >Indexing is done, by hand, in a sortable table. After the entries are
> >finished, they're embedded in the document.
> >
> >For LyX, it might be possible to do this even more 
> elegantly, by showing
> >the generated index every time the document is generated 
> with LaTeX, or,
> >better still, by showing it (updated) in the LyX UI every 
> time an index
> >entry is added to or modified in the table.
> >
> >It's important for the indexer to be able to see and edit all index
> >entries in the same place and at the same time rather than just have
> >them spread througout the document--hence, the table.
> >
> >Wow, this would be a *cool* feature for LyX. What do you think?
> >  
> >
> It'd be a cool feature, sure.  And very useful.  Lyx being 
> open source means
> this can be integrated rather than being an add-on. I think 
> the perfect
> solution would be to still have all the index entries spread 
> throughout the
> document - so that they move around automatically as I cut/copy and
> paste.  But there should also be this "table view" for smart 
> editing of
> the index.  Showing the generated index is indeed possible, by
> using the existing mechanism for showing rendered formulas.  Well,
> it takes a lot more time as you typically need to render the entire
> document to get the page numbers.  So "index preview" should
> be optional. 
> 
> Helge Hafting
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Herbert Voss]

Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:

Herbert Voss wrote:


do you know the following packages?

Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees

typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/

Linguistic: autosegmental representations
http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/



I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.


here are some examples with code

http://perce.de/pub/linguistic.pdf

Herbert

Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Stacia Hartleben]

I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
support? That makes me really sad :(

On 2/17/06, Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Herbert Voss wrote:
> > do you know the following packages?
> >
> > Linguistic tree diagrams for Role and Reference Grammar (RRG)
> > http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/rrgtrees
> >
> > typesetting of trees that are common in linguistics
> > http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pstricks/contrib/pst-jftree/
> >
> > Linguistic: autosegmental representations
> > http://www.math.neu.edu/ling/tex/
>
> I know that such packages exist. However, I do not use them.
>
> Jürgen
>

RE: Creating an Index

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Jack M. Lyon wrote:


Usually indexers don't care so much about seeing the actual page numbers,
but they do care about seeing the *structure* of the index as they work.


  Which brings up another issue that might be a wrench in the gears:
different standards for indexes (e.g., British vs. American) and publisher or
subject area preferences.

  I was, of course, totally ignorant of all this until I read Nancy Mulvany's
book and learned that my publisher does not hire professional indexers, but
leaves us authors to struggle through the process all alone.

Rich

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Re: TIPA (IPA) and limited tree support previews in LyX, working!

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Stacia Hartleben wrote:
> I'd be happy to make an info page on the lyx wiki, except would it
> really be useful, now that 1.4 is going to get rid of the xymatrix
> support? That makes me really sad :(

at least the tipa part will be useful.

Jürgen