Re: Difference between pdf dvipdfm and pdflatex ?

[Helge Hafting]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
neubrief wrote:
I'm somewhat new to LyX and Tex and want to know what is the 
difference between using pdf, dvipdfm and pdflatex when exporting my 
lyx document to a pdf one?

pdf creates a (lyx)-tex-dvi-ps-pdf (due to the complicated 
construction via 2 other file formats, it has many restrictions 
(hyperlinks disappear etc.) )

dvipdfm creates (lyx)-tex-dvi-pdf (better than the first method, it 
is able to embed images and to create hyperlinks. The dvipdfm-programm 
is not under development since 2002)

pdflatex creates (lyx)-tex-pdf (best solution, you can embed images 
and other pdfs, create hyperlinks and the file size of the pdf is 
smaller than with dvipdfm. Pdflatex is developed by a large community 
and is part of all actual LaTeX-distributions (de-facto the standard).)
pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it 
unless you really need
some feature only found in the others.

Helge Hafting

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Rich Shepard wrote:
I am inserting a Xfig picture via insert--external material. Is there
some way of setting the scale of the Xfig picture with which the picture
will appear in the DVI file?

Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., the
picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert the
same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without -m
0.5; you will see no difference.)
  I use Tgif rather than xfig and it provides an .eps version of each
figure. I then import that graphic file into a figure float and use the
figure dialog box to scale and otherwise twiddle with the appearance on the
typeset page.
  Would this not work for you?
Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using 
insert--external material because I would like to have things like 
$\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as 
LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX 
code. In short, with insert--external material and Xfig, it is 
possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy 
for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures 
included with insert--external material, likewise it already happens 
with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems 
that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.

Paul

Re: problem with accents after kde update

[stephan beal]

On Monday 23 August 2004 03:26, Mario Lopes wrote:
 Need some help please, I really need LyX running smoothly! Well,
 yes.. I'm a LyX-dependent ;-)

As a temporary work around, if you have another, non-upgraded box with 
lyx on it, you can run it over X11 from the other machine. Not a 
solution, i know, but it might allow you to work again until the 
problem is solved.

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of the will. -- Alan W. Watts

Re: Difference between pdf dvipdfm and pdflatex ?

[stephan beal]

On Monday 23 August 2004 10:53, Helge Hafting wrote:
 pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it
 unless you really need
 some feature only found in the others.

Or if it creates incomplete PDFs. :/ i've got one doc which doesn't use 
any special features (no indexing, no images, no formulas... nothing 
but text and section numbers), but one of the pages it generates (out 
of 18 or so) is half blank, and causes gv to crash throw an error while 
rendering that page. Running one of the other PDF exports works fine.

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of the will. -- Alan W. Watts

Re: problem with accents after kde update

[Stefano Baroni]

Some time ago, I also reported similar problems with the Mac OS X port 
that I am using.
Stefano Baroni

On Aug 23, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Mario Lopes wrote:
Hi there!
I'm currently using Suse 9.1 and I've updated kde 3.2 to latest 
version 3.3 and everything runs fine except accents inside LyX.

Since my update, I can't use chars like à è ò or á é ã õ that my 
language needs. I did an effort and set keyboard mapping to Portuguese 
(Portugese is how it is written inside Lyx) and now I'm managed to 
have ` and ~ working, but á é, etc.. doesn't work. It's the only 
accent that doesn't work. Besides this, every character works great in 
all programas, except LyX :-(

Need some help please, I really need LyX running smoothly! Well, yes.. 
I'm a LyX-dependent ;-)

Best Regards,
Mário Lopes
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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:
 Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using
 insert--external material because I would like to have things like
 $\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as
 LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX
 code. In short, with insert--external material and Xfig, it is
 possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy
 for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures
 included with insert--external material, likewise it already happens
 with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems
 that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.

Ha! Easy! It took three months of quite intensive thought and coding to do
so.

Anyway, this being a 1.4.x feature, it isn't much use to you. You will need
to use some ERT.

ert
$$Resize $$Rotate
/ert
external inset
...
/external inset
ert
}}
/ert

$$Resize is 
\scalebox{0.5}{0.5}{
or
\resizebox{width}{height}{

where width and height are latex lengths (2cm, 20em, etc) or an
exclamation mark meaning keep the aspect ratio consistent with the other
scaling.

$$Rotate is
\rotatebox[origin]{angle}{

where origin is some combo of
default (centre)
t   top
b   bottom
B   baseline
together with
l   left (default)
c   centre
r   right

and angle is in degrees.

-- 
Angus

Need to use \typearea when using \setspace

[Jan Smid]

Hi,

when using onehalfspacing in koma-article class , is it necessary to use 
\typearea[current]{calc} in the preamble, as proposed in the koma-script 
documentation? This leads to very large margin in the .dvi - to large for my 
taste. Or is the calclation done in a correct way?

-j

Re: LyX/Mac OS 10.3.4: wrong paths

[Viktor Horvath]

Running texhash as root, LyX-Setup and Edit-Reconfigure doesn't help 
either... it still can't find any classes. If you tell me which log files / 
command outputs to post, I'll do it gladly...

Greetings,
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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Helge Hafting]

Re-sending as the previous one got lost?
Paul Smith wrote:
Mark Carroll wrote:
I am inserting a Xfig picture via insert--external material. Is 
there
some way of setting the scale of the Xfig picture with which the 
picture
will appear in the DVI file?

In the parameters field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you set
the filename you can set an -m scaling option - for instance, -m 0.5
to halve its size.

Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., 
the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert 
the same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without 
-m 0.5; you will see no difference.) 
Scaling works fine, but there are some problems that needs workarounds:
1.  Entering the scale option the first time you include a figure works, 
adding the scale
   option later doesn't.  This happens because lyx converts file.fig 
into file.eps and file.pstex_t.
   Lyx (1.3.4) erroneously believes this only has to be done once.  The 
conversion is re-done
   if you change file.fig from lyx, not if you change it outside lyx 
or change the parameter list.

   Workaround:  Delete file.eps and file.pstex_t after changing 
conversion parameters (such as
   using -m 0.5) or after editing file.fig outside lyx. 
   You will then get the size you want!

2. Including the same figure twice with different conversion parameters 
(i.e. different size)
   does not work.  This because lyx converts the first figure, then 
looks at the second figure
   using the same file and notices that the .eps and the .pstex_t 
exists (made in the previous conversion)
   and then believes the job is done and skips it.  Not skipping it 
wouldn't help, because a re-conversion
   would overwrite the files needed to display the first figure right.
  
   Workaround:  If you really need the same figure several times _with 
different size_,
   make a copy (or a link) with a different filename.  Then, two 
conversions happens
   and you get .eps+.pstex_t files with different names (and different 
internal sizes).
   Copy the file if you might want to change the figures independently 
of each other.
   Make a link if you want only one figure for future editing, changing 
either the original
   or the link later will then change both.

So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work 
around its quirks.
If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that 
removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.

Helge Hafting

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Helge Hafting wrote:
In the parameters field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you set
the filename you can set an -m scaling option - for instance, -m 0.5
to halve its size.
Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., 
the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert 
the same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without 
-m 0.5; you will see no difference.) 
Scaling works fine, but there are some problems that needs workarounds:
1.  Entering the scale option the first time you include a figure works, 
adding the scale
   option later doesn't.  This happens because lyx converts file.fig 
into file.eps and file.pstex_t.
   Lyx (1.3.4) erroneously believes this only has to be done once.  The 
conversion is re-done
   if you change file.fig from lyx, not if you change it outside lyx 
or change the parameter list.

   Workaround:  Delete file.eps and file.pstex_t after changing 
conversion parameters (such as
   using -m 0.5) or after editing file.fig outside lyx.You will 
then get the size you want!

2. Including the same figure twice with different conversion parameters 
(i.e. different size)
   does not work.  This because lyx converts the first figure, then 
looks at the second figure
   using the same file and notices that the .eps and the .pstex_t exists 
(made in the previous conversion)
   and then believes the job is done and skips it.  Not skipping it 
wouldn't help, because a re-conversion
   would overwrite the files needed to display the first figure right.
 Workaround:  If you really need the same figure several times _with 
different size_,
   make a copy (or a link) with a different filename.  Then, two 
conversions happens
   and you get .eps+.pstex_t files with different names (and different 
internal sizes).
   Copy the file if you might want to change the figures independently 
of each other.
   Make a link if you want only one figure for future editing, changing 
either the original
   or the link later will then change both.

So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work 
around its quirks.
If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that 
removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.
Thanks, Helge. Your workarounds do work fine. I do not need (at least 
currently) to insert the same picture twice; I only mentioned that to 
show _more_ clearly that something was wrong.

Paul

[lyx-users] in the subject line

[Paul Smith]

Dear All
I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to 
have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line 
of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

Regards,
Paul

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using
insert--external material because I would like to have things like
$\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as
LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX
code. In short, with insert--external material and Xfig, it is
possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy
for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures
included with insert--external material, likewise it already happens
with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems
that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.
Ha! Easy! It took three months of quite intensive thought and coding to do
so.
Sorry, Angus, I did not imagine that would be so difficult.
Paul

Drowing

[Hannan Seder]

Hi,
I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics 
(Electricity).

Does someone have any recommendation?
Hannan

Re: [lyx-users] in the subject line

[Johann Haarhoff]

I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to

have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject
line 
of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

I agree, I have suggested it before, but the motion was not very well
met. It is true that most mail clients have the capability to filter the
BCC etc. fields, and one can filter all your lyx-users mail into a
separate folder. My employer however, forces us to use the Groupwise
Mail Client, arguably one of the crappiest pieces of software ever
written. I can only filter the To field, and if there are multiple
recipients, and lyx-users is not first, the filter fails. This leaves
me with half my lyx-users mail in the Inbox and the other in the lyx
folder.

Anyways, I agree that this would be usefull. It is not important enough
for me to spend money on, but maybe if you begged/bribed the list
maintainer he/she would add this feature. 

Regards,

Johann

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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Georg Baum]

Helge Hafting wrote:
 So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work
 around its quirks.
 If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that
 removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
 it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.

These problems are fixed in lyx 1.4cvs, but it is too difficult to fix them
in 1.3.


Georg

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:

 Helge Hafting wrote:
 In the parameters field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you
 set the filename you can set an -m scaling option - for instance,
 -m 0.5 to halve its size.

 Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e.,
 the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert
 the same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without
 -m 0.5; you will see no difference.)

[ details snipped ]

 Thanks, Helge. Your workarounds do work fine. I do not need (at least
 currently) to insert the same picture twice; I only mentioned that to
 show _more_ clearly that something was wrong.

Note also that the ability to pass options to the converter program used by
the external inset has been removed from 1.4.x. The 1.4.x code uses the
same 'converter' mechanism as is used by the rest of lyx (eg the graphics
inset). We had, therefore, to remove this option code because it opened up
a security risk. (Your 1.3.x code is safe, BTW.)

This will change back again in the future (maybe in time for 1.4, but
probably not) when all external programs are launched via the safe 'exec'
family of functions rather than the unsafe 'system' command.

Rationale: imagine a lyx file that resulted in a call to the converter
convert `rm -f *` input.eps output.png

The above is fine if lauched via 'execvp' but will be rather nasty if
lauched via 'system'.


-- 
Angus

Re: in the subject line

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:

 Dear All
 
 I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
 have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line
 of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
 mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

No. It's mindless clutter.

Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

-- 
Angus

Re: Difference between pdf dvipdfm and pdflatex ?

[Herbert Voss]

stephan beal wrote:
On Monday 23 August 2004 10:53, Helge Hafting wrote:
pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it
unless you really need
some feature only found in the others.

Or if it creates incomplete PDFs. :/ i've got one doc which doesn't use 
any special features (no indexing, no images, no formulas... nothing 
but text and section numbers), but one of the pages it generates (out 
of 18 or so) is half blank, and causes gv to crash throw an error while 
rendering that page. Running one of the other PDF exports works fine.
then you have a bug in your document ...
Herbert

Re: Drowing

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Hannan Seder wrote:

 I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics
 (Electricity).

 Does someone have any recommendation?

Hannan,

  When I went looking for a vector drawing program earlier this year I
discovered that there are at least seven out there. Many folks use xfig,
others use ipe, sketch, and so on. I settled on one called tgif. I found it
better documented than the others, it had a shorter learning curve for me
and it draws curved lines (such as Gaussian curves) more easily and
symmetrically than the others I tried. They're all good. Look on the SAL Web
site (Scientific Applications for Linux).

Rich

-- 
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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Beamer

[Carlos Fernando Knauer]

Hi.
Is there a special class to use Beamer ?
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Re: [lyx-users] in the subject line

[John Levon]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 12:55:26PM +0100, Paul Smith wrote:

 I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to 
 have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line 
 of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
 mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

No, this isn't going to happen. You need to find out how to get your
mail client to filter on other headers than the subject line

regards
john

Re: in the subject line

[Angus Leeming]

Johann Haarhoff wrote:
 I agree, I have suggested it before, but the motion was not very well
 met. It is true that most mail clients have the capability to filter the
 BCC etc. fields, and one can filter all your lyx-users mail into a
 separate folder. My employer however, forces us to use the Groupwise
 Mail Client, arguably one of the crappiest pieces of software ever
 written. I can only filter the To field, and if there are multiple
 recipients, and lyx-users is not first, the filter fails. This leaves
 me with half my lyx-users mail in the Inbox and the other in the lyx
 folder.

Does your employer allow you to read lyx-users via the gmane news
interface?

http://www.gmane.org/
nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general

Just a thought.
-- 
Angus

per-$DISPLAY font zoom?

[Alexis Huxley]

Hi, I'm using a 21 screen and a 14 laptop for LyX.

I keep having to change the font zoom from the
Edit/Preferences/Screen-Fonts menu when I go from
one monitor to the other.

Is there a way to specify a per-$DISPLAY value here?
If there is an X resource for it then I can xrdb
merge it; or I can if LyX will not overrule that with
the preference-specified value. 

Any help appreciated. Thanks!

Alexis

Re: in the subject line

[Peter Harkins]

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 Paul Smith wrote:
 
  Dear All
  
  I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
  have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line
  of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
  mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?
 
 No. It's mindless clutter.
 
 Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

I agree with Angus that it's a bad idea to add a tag to subject lines, but I
find filtering on the To or List-Post headers to be best. Here's a snip from
my procmailrc, for procmail users.

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/path/to/mail/lyx-users/

If you decide to filter on List-Post, the following (untested) should work.

:0
* ^List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/path/to/mail/lyx-users/

Whether or not you happen to use procmail, the orginal poster's mail client
(Mozilla Thunderbird) can definitely filter on one of these other fields,
just look around in the documentation.


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Re: Beamer

[Paul A. Rubin]

Carlos Fernando Knauer wrote:
Hi.
Is there a special class to use Beamer ?
The beamer LaTeX package installs the LaTeX class beamer.cls and a bunch 
of style files.  The beamer package includes a LyX layout file 
(beamer.layout) and a LyX template (beamerpresentation.lyx).  These 
install in subdirectories under the .../tex/latex/beamer directory in 
your TeX file tree.  You need to copy them to the corresponding LyX 
directories (for instance, the layouts and templates directories under 
your document home directory).

-- Paul

Re: Beamer

[Angus Leeming]

Carlos Fernando Knauer wrote:

 Hi.
 Is there a special class to use Beamer ?

You mean a lyx layout class to go with the latex beamer class of
http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ ? It comes with one, although the
author has had to work very hard to make lyx understand his class.

-- 
Angus

Finding Labels in Text

[Rich Shepard]

  I've somehow managed to enter a label twice. While I suppose it doesn't
matter technically, it is not elegant and I'd like to clean it up. To do so,
I need to find all references to that label and make sure that each one
points to only one instance of it.

  I've tried searching for the the label string and for the chapter heading
it references. Find doesn't find any matching hits. I'm sure I've not
specified the search string correctly.

  Please pass me a pointer on how to find all references to a label.

Thanks,

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: in the subject line

[Andrew Morrison]

On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 08:59, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Paul Smith wrote:
 
  Dear All
  
  I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
  have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line
  of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
  mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?
 
 No. It's mindless clutter.
 

I disagree.  I often want to check the subject lines of new mail without
downloading it to the client.  Usually I want to see none mailing list
messages, so I pipe through grep: 'nfrm | grep -v LUG | grep -v
development'.   Without anything to grep on this list, I see all the
subject lines of messages I know I don't want to read.  To me, *that* is
clutter. 

 Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

[I think you have to use the To: field, but I could be wrong.]

Re: Drowing

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:14:58 +
Hannan Seder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics 
 (Electricity).
 
 Does someone have any recommendation?

Hi Hannan.

Think first if you really _want_ to draw these complicated shapes. If you
have them available from another program, print them to a file in
postscript format, and directly import them - a lot easier than to draw
them again.

I'm a Sketch (now Skencil) fan for drawing.

John

 
 Hannan

Re: per-$DISPLAY font zoom?

[Angus Leeming]

Alexis Huxley wrote:

 Hi, I'm using a 21 screen and a 14 laptop for LyX.
 
 I keep having to change the font zoom from the
 Edit/Preferences/Screen-Fonts menu when I go from
 one monitor to the other.
 
 Is there a way to specify a per-$DISPLAY value here?
 If there is an X resource for it then I can xrdb
 merge it; or I can if LyX will not overrule that with
 the preference-specified value.
 
 Any help appreciated. Thanks!

Sorry. I think you're out of luck. FWIW, I don't think that the Qt frontend
knows what X resources are, let alone uses them. A Qt-thingie.

-- 
Angus

Re: Finding Labels in Text

[Angus Leeming]

Rich Shepard wrote:

   I've somehow managed to enter a label twice. While I suppose it doesn't
 matter technically, it is not elegant and I'd like to clean it up. To do
 so, I need to find all references to that label and make sure that each
 one points to only one instance of it.
 
   I've tried searching for the the label string and for the chapter
   heading
 it references. Find doesn't find any matching hits. I'm sure I've not
 specified the search string correctly.
 
   Please pass me a pointer on how to find all references to a label.

grep -n my_label *.lyx

?

Actually, since a label reference is just a string, removing the extra
label 'should just work'.

-- 
Angus

Re: Difference between pdf dvipdfm and pdflatex ?

[Helge Hafting]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
neubrief wrote:
I'm somewhat new to LyX and Tex and want to know what is the 
difference between using pdf, dvipdfm and pdflatex when exporting my 
lyx document to a pdf one?

pdf creates a (lyx)-tex-dvi-ps-pdf (due to the complicated 
construction via 2 other file formats, it has many restrictions 
(hyperlinks disappear etc.) )

dvipdfm creates (lyx)-tex-dvi-pdf (better than the first method, it 
is able to embed images and to create hyperlinks. The dvipdfm-programm 
is not under development since 2002)

pdflatex creates (lyx)-tex-pdf (best solution, you can embed images 
and other pdfs, create hyperlinks and the file size of the pdf is 
smaller than with dvipdfm. Pdflatex is developed by a large community 
and is part of all actual LaTeX-distributions (de-facto the standard).)
pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it 
unless you really need
some feature only found in the others.

Helge Hafting

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Rich Shepard wrote:
I am inserting a Xfig picture via insert--external material. Is there
some way of setting the scale of the Xfig picture with which the picture
will appear in the DVI file?

Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., the
picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert the
same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without -m
0.5; you will see no difference.)
  I use Tgif rather than xfig and it provides an .eps version of each
figure. I then import that graphic file into a figure float and use the
figure dialog box to scale and otherwise twiddle with the appearance on the
typeset page.
  Would this not work for you?
Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using 
insert--external material because I would like to have things like 
$\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as 
LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX 
code. In short, with insert--external material and Xfig, it is 
possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy 
for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures 
included with insert--external material, likewise it already happens 
with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems 
that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.

Paul

Re: problem with accents after kde update

[stephan beal]

On Monday 23 August 2004 03:26, Mario Lopes wrote:
 Need some help please, I really need LyX running smoothly! Well,
 yes.. I'm a LyX-dependent ;-)

As a temporary work around, if you have another, non-upgraded box with 
lyx on it, you can run it over X11 from the other machine. Not a 
solution, i know, but it might allow you to work again until the 
problem is solved.

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of the will. -- Alan W. Watts

Re: Difference between pdf dvipdfm and pdflatex ?

[stephan beal]

On Monday 23 August 2004 10:53, Helge Hafting wrote:
 pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it
 unless you really need
 some feature only found in the others.

Or if it creates incomplete PDFs. :/ i've got one doc which doesn't use 
any special features (no indexing, no images, no formulas... nothing 
but text and section numbers), but one of the pages it generates (out 
of 18 or so) is half blank, and causes gv to crash throw an error while 
rendering that page. Running one of the other PDF exports works fine.

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of the will. -- Alan W. Watts

Re: problem with accents after kde update

[Stefano Baroni]

Some time ago, I also reported similar problems with the Mac OS X port 
that I am using.
Stefano Baroni

On Aug 23, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Mario Lopes wrote:
Hi there!
I'm currently using Suse 9.1 and I've updated kde 3.2 to latest 
version 3.3 and everything runs fine except accents inside LyX.

Since my update, I can't use chars like à è ò or á é ã õ that my 
language needs. I did an effort and set keyboard mapping to Portuguese 
(Portugese is how it is written inside Lyx) and now I'm managed to 
have ` and ~ working, but á é, etc.. doesn't work. It's the only 
accent that doesn't work. Besides this, every character works great in 
all programas, except LyX :-(

Need some help please, I really need LyX running smoothly! Well, yes.. 
I'm a LyX-dependent ;-)

Best Regards,
Mário Lopes
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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:
 Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using
 insert--external material because I would like to have things like
 $\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as
 LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX
 code. In short, with insert--external material and Xfig, it is
 possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy
 for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures
 included with insert--external material, likewise it already happens
 with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems
 that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.

Ha! Easy! It took three months of quite intensive thought and coding to do
so.

Anyway, this being a 1.4.x feature, it isn't much use to you. You will need
to use some ERT.

ert
$$Resize $$Rotate
/ert
external inset
...
/external inset
ert
}}
/ert

$$Resize is 
\scalebox{0.5}{0.5}{
or
\resizebox{width}{height}{

where width and height are latex lengths (2cm, 20em, etc) or an
exclamation mark meaning keep the aspect ratio consistent with the other
scaling.

$$Rotate is
\rotatebox[origin]{angle}{

where origin is some combo of
default (centre)
t   top
b   bottom
B   baseline
together with
l   left (default)
c   centre
r   right

and angle is in degrees.

-- 
Angus

Need to use \typearea when using \setspace

[Jan Smid]

Hi,

when using onehalfspacing in koma-article class , is it necessary to use 
\typearea[current]{calc} in the preamble, as proposed in the koma-script 
documentation? This leads to very large margin in the .dvi - to large for my 
taste. Or is the calclation done in a correct way?

-j

Re: LyX/Mac OS 10.3.4: wrong paths

[Viktor Horvath]

Running texhash as root, LyX-Setup and Edit-Reconfigure doesn't help 
either... it still can't find any classes. If you tell me which log files / 
command outputs to post, I'll do it gladly...

Greetings,
Viktor.
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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Helge Hafting]

Re-sending as the previous one got lost?
Paul Smith wrote:
Mark Carroll wrote:
I am inserting a Xfig picture via insert--external material. Is 
there
some way of setting the scale of the Xfig picture with which the 
picture
will appear in the DVI file?

In the parameters field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you set
the filename you can set an -m scaling option - for instance, -m 0.5
to halve its size.

Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., 
the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert 
the same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without 
-m 0.5; you will see no difference.) 
Scaling works fine, but there are some problems that needs workarounds:
1.  Entering the scale option the first time you include a figure works, 
adding the scale
   option later doesn't.  This happens because lyx converts file.fig 
into file.eps and file.pstex_t.
   Lyx (1.3.4) erroneously believes this only has to be done once.  The 
conversion is re-done
   if you change file.fig from lyx, not if you change it outside lyx 
or change the parameter list.

   Workaround:  Delete file.eps and file.pstex_t after changing 
conversion parameters (such as
   using -m 0.5) or after editing file.fig outside lyx. 
   You will then get the size you want!

2. Including the same figure twice with different conversion parameters 
(i.e. different size)
   does not work.  This because lyx converts the first figure, then 
looks at the second figure
   using the same file and notices that the .eps and the .pstex_t 
exists (made in the previous conversion)
   and then believes the job is done and skips it.  Not skipping it 
wouldn't help, because a re-conversion
   would overwrite the files needed to display the first figure right.
  
   Workaround:  If you really need the same figure several times _with 
different size_,
   make a copy (or a link) with a different filename.  Then, two 
conversions happens
   and you get .eps+.pstex_t files with different names (and different 
internal sizes).
   Copy the file if you might want to change the figures independently 
of each other.
   Make a link if you want only one figure for future editing, changing 
either the original
   or the link later will then change both.

So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work 
around its quirks.
If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that 
removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.

Helge Hafting

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Helge Hafting wrote:
In the parameters field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you set
the filename you can set an -m scaling option - for instance, -m 0.5
to halve its size.
Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., 
the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert 
the same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without 
-m 0.5; you will see no difference.) 
Scaling works fine, but there are some problems that needs workarounds:
1.  Entering the scale option the first time you include a figure works, 
adding the scale
   option later doesn't.  This happens because lyx converts file.fig 
into file.eps and file.pstex_t.
   Lyx (1.3.4) erroneously believes this only has to be done once.  The 
conversion is re-done
   if you change file.fig from lyx, not if you change it outside lyx 
or change the parameter list.

   Workaround:  Delete file.eps and file.pstex_t after changing 
conversion parameters (such as
   using -m 0.5) or after editing file.fig outside lyx.You will 
then get the size you want!

2. Including the same figure twice with different conversion parameters 
(i.e. different size)
   does not work.  This because lyx converts the first figure, then 
looks at the second figure
   using the same file and notices that the .eps and the .pstex_t exists 
(made in the previous conversion)
   and then believes the job is done and skips it.  Not skipping it 
wouldn't help, because a re-conversion
   would overwrite the files needed to display the first figure right.
 Workaround:  If you really need the same figure several times _with 
different size_,
   make a copy (or a link) with a different filename.  Then, two 
conversions happens
   and you get .eps+.pstex_t files with different names (and different 
internal sizes).
   Copy the file if you might want to change the figures independently 
of each other.
   Make a link if you want only one figure for future editing, changing 
either the original
   or the link later will then change both.

So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work 
around its quirks.
If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that 
removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.
Thanks, Helge. Your workarounds do work fine. I do not need (at least 
currently) to insert the same picture twice; I only mentioned that to 
show _more_ clearly that something was wrong.

Paul

[lyx-users] in the subject line

[Paul Smith]

Dear All
I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to 
have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line 
of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

Regards,
Paul

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using
insert--external material because I would like to have things like
$\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as
LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX
code. In short, with insert--external material and Xfig, it is
possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy
for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures
included with insert--external material, likewise it already happens
with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems
that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.
Ha! Easy! It took three months of quite intensive thought and coding to do
so.
Sorry, Angus, I did not imagine that would be so difficult.
Paul

Drowing

[Hannan Seder]

Hi,
I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics 
(Electricity).

Does someone have any recommendation?
Hannan

Re: [lyx-users] in the subject line

[Johann Haarhoff]

I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to

have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject
line 
of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

I agree, I have suggested it before, but the motion was not very well
met. It is true that most mail clients have the capability to filter the
BCC etc. fields, and one can filter all your lyx-users mail into a
separate folder. My employer however, forces us to use the Groupwise
Mail Client, arguably one of the crappiest pieces of software ever
written. I can only filter the To field, and if there are multiple
recipients, and lyx-users is not first, the filter fails. This leaves
me with half my lyx-users mail in the Inbox and the other in the lyx
folder.

Anyways, I agree that this would be usefull. It is not important enough
for me to spend money on, but maybe if you begged/bribed the list
maintainer he/she would add this feature. 

Regards,

Johann

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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Georg Baum]

Helge Hafting wrote:
 So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work
 around its quirks.
 If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that
 removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
 it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.

These problems are fixed in lyx 1.4cvs, but it is too difficult to fix them
in 1.3.


Georg

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:

 Helge Hafting wrote:
 In the parameters field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you
 set the filename you can set an -m scaling option - for instance,
 -m 0.5 to halve its size.

 Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e.,
 the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert
 the same picture twice, one with -m 0.5 and the other one without
 -m 0.5; you will see no difference.)

[ details snipped ]

 Thanks, Helge. Your workarounds do work fine. I do not need (at least
 currently) to insert the same picture twice; I only mentioned that to
 show _more_ clearly that something was wrong.

Note also that the ability to pass options to the converter program used by
the external inset has been removed from 1.4.x. The 1.4.x code uses the
same 'converter' mechanism as is used by the rest of lyx (eg the graphics
inset). We had, therefore, to remove this option code because it opened up
a security risk. (Your 1.3.x code is safe, BTW.)

This will change back again in the future (maybe in time for 1.4, but
probably not) when all external programs are launched via the safe 'exec'
family of functions rather than the unsafe 'system' command.

Rationale: imagine a lyx file that resulted in a call to the converter
convert `rm -f *` input.eps output.png

The above is fine if lauched via 'execvp' but will be rather nasty if
lauched via 'system'.


-- 
Angus

Re: in the subject line

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:

 Dear All
 
 I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
 have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line
 of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
 mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

No. It's mindless clutter.

Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

-- 
Angus

Re: Difference between pdf dvipdfm and pdflatex ?

[Herbert Voss]

stephan beal wrote:
On Monday 23 August 2004 10:53, Helge Hafting wrote:
pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it
unless you really need
some feature only found in the others.

Or if it creates incomplete PDFs. :/ i've got one doc which doesn't use 
any special features (no indexing, no images, no formulas... nothing 
but text and section numbers), but one of the pages it generates (out 
of 18 or so) is half blank, and causes gv to crash throw an error while 
rendering that page. Running one of the other PDF exports works fine.
then you have a bug in your document ...
Herbert

Re: Drowing

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Hannan Seder wrote:

 I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics
 (Electricity).

 Does someone have any recommendation?

Hannan,

  When I went looking for a vector drawing program earlier this year I
discovered that there are at least seven out there. Many folks use xfig,
others use ipe, sketch, and so on. I settled on one called tgif. I found it
better documented than the others, it had a shorter learning curve for me
and it draws curved lines (such as Gaussian curves) more easily and
symmetrically than the others I tried. They're all good. Look on the SAL Web
site (Scientific Applications for Linux).

Rich

-- 
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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Beamer

[Carlos Fernando Knauer]

Hi.
Is there a special class to use Beamer ?
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Re: [lyx-users] in the subject line

[John Levon]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 12:55:26PM +0100, Paul Smith wrote:

 I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to 
 have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line 
 of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
 mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

No, this isn't going to happen. You need to find out how to get your
mail client to filter on other headers than the subject line

regards
john

Re: in the subject line

[Angus Leeming]

Johann Haarhoff wrote:
 I agree, I have suggested it before, but the motion was not very well
 met. It is true that most mail clients have the capability to filter the
 BCC etc. fields, and one can filter all your lyx-users mail into a
 separate folder. My employer however, forces us to use the Groupwise
 Mail Client, arguably one of the crappiest pieces of software ever
 written. I can only filter the To field, and if there are multiple
 recipients, and lyx-users is not first, the filter fails. This leaves
 me with half my lyx-users mail in the Inbox and the other in the lyx
 folder.

Does your employer allow you to read lyx-users via the gmane news
interface?

http://www.gmane.org/
nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general

Just a thought.
-- 
Angus

per-$DISPLAY font zoom?

[Alexis Huxley]

Hi, I'm using a 21 screen and a 14 laptop for LyX.

I keep having to change the font zoom from the
Edit/Preferences/Screen-Fonts menu when I go from
one monitor to the other.

Is there a way to specify a per-$DISPLAY value here?
If there is an X resource for it then I can xrdb
merge it; or I can if LyX will not overrule that with
the preference-specified value. 

Any help appreciated. Thanks!

Alexis

Re: in the subject line

[Peter Harkins]

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 Paul Smith wrote:
 
  Dear All
  
  I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
  have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line
  of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
  mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?
 
 No. It's mindless clutter.
 
 Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

I agree with Angus that it's a bad idea to add a tag to subject lines, but I
find filtering on the To or List-Post headers to be best. Here's a snip from
my procmailrc, for procmail users.

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/path/to/mail/lyx-users/

If you decide to filter on List-Post, the following (untested) should work.

:0
* ^List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/path/to/mail/lyx-users/

Whether or not you happen to use procmail, the orginal poster's mail client
(Mozilla Thunderbird) can definitely filter on one of these other fields,
just look around in the documentation.


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Re: Beamer

[Paul A. Rubin]

Carlos Fernando Knauer wrote:
Hi.
Is there a special class to use Beamer ?
The beamer LaTeX package installs the LaTeX class beamer.cls and a bunch 
of style files.  The beamer package includes a LyX layout file 
(beamer.layout) and a LyX template (beamerpresentation.lyx).  These 
install in subdirectories under the .../tex/latex/beamer directory in 
your TeX file tree.  You need to copy them to the corresponding LyX 
directories (for instance, the layouts and templates directories under 
your document home directory).

-- Paul

Re: Beamer

[Angus Leeming]

Carlos Fernando Knauer wrote:

 Hi.
 Is there a special class to use Beamer ?

You mean a lyx layout class to go with the latex beamer class of
http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ ? It comes with one, although the
author has had to work very hard to make lyx understand his class.

-- 
Angus

Finding Labels in Text

[Rich Shepard]

  I've somehow managed to enter a label twice. While I suppose it doesn't
matter technically, it is not elegant and I'd like to clean it up. To do so,
I need to find all references to that label and make sure that each one
points to only one instance of it.

  I've tried searching for the the label string and for the chapter heading
it references. Find doesn't find any matching hits. I'm sure I've not
specified the search string correctly.

  Please pass me a pointer on how to find all references to a label.

Thanks,

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com

Re: in the subject line

[Andrew Morrison]

On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 08:59, Angus Leeming wrote:
 Paul Smith wrote:
 
  Dear All
  
  I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
  have the label [lyx-users] automatically inserted in the subject line
  of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
  mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?
 
 No. It's mindless clutter.
 

I disagree.  I often want to check the subject lines of new mail without
downloading it to the client.  Usually I want to see none mailing list
messages, so I pipe through grep: 'nfrm | grep -v LUG | grep -v
development'.   Without anything to grep on this list, I see all the
subject lines of messages I know I don't want to read.  To me, *that* is
clutter. 

 Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

[I think you have to use the To: field, but I could be wrong.]

Re: Drowing

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:14:58 +
Hannan Seder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics 
 (Electricity).
 
 Does someone have any recommendation?

Hi Hannan.

Think first if you really _want_ to draw these complicated shapes. If you
have them available from another program, print them to a file in
postscript format, and directly import them - a lot easier than to draw
them again.

I'm a Sketch (now Skencil) fan for drawing.

John

 
 Hannan

Re: per-$DISPLAY font zoom?

[Angus Leeming]

Alexis Huxley wrote:

 Hi, I'm using a 21 screen and a 14 laptop for LyX.
 
 I keep having to change the font zoom from the
 Edit/Preferences/Screen-Fonts menu when I go from
 one monitor to the other.
 
 Is there a way to specify a per-$DISPLAY value here?
 If there is an X resource for it then I can xrdb
 merge it; or I can if LyX will not overrule that with
 the preference-specified value.
 
 Any help appreciated. Thanks!

Sorry. I think you're out of luck. FWIW, I don't think that the Qt frontend
knows what X resources are, let alone uses them. A Qt-thingie.

-- 
Angus

Re: Finding Labels in Text

[Angus Leeming]

Rich Shepard wrote:

   I've somehow managed to enter a label twice. While I suppose it doesn't
 matter technically, it is not elegant and I'd like to clean it up. To do
 so, I need to find all references to that label and make sure that each
 one points to only one instance of it.
 
   I've tried searching for the the label string and for the chapter
   heading
 it references. Find doesn't find any matching hits. I'm sure I've not
 specified the search string correctly.
 
   Please pass me a pointer on how to find all references to a label.

grep -n my_label *.lyx

?

Actually, since a label reference is just a string, removing the extra
label 'should just work'.

-- 
Angus

Re: Difference between "pdf" "dvipdfm" and "pdflatex" ?

[Helge Hafting]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
neubrief wrote:
I'm somewhat new to LyX and Tex and want to know what is the 
difference between using pdf, dvipdfm and pdflatex when exporting my 
lyx document to a pdf one?

pdf creates a (lyx)->tex->dvi->ps->pdf (due to the complicated 
construction via 2 other file formats, it has many restrictions 
(hyperlinks disappear etc.) )

dvipdfm creates (lyx)->tex->dvi->pdf (better than the first method, it 
is able to embed images and to create hyperlinks. The dvipdfm-programm 
is not under development since 2002)

pdflatex creates (lyx)->tex->pdf (best solution, you can embed images 
and other pdfs, create hyperlinks and the file size of the pdf is 
smaller than with dvipdfm. Pdflatex is developed by a large community 
and is part of all actual LaTeX-distributions (de-facto the standard).)
pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it 
unless you really need
some feature only found in the others.

Helge Hafting

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Rich Shepard wrote:
I am inserting a Xfig picture via "insert-->external material". Is there
some way of setting the scale of the Xfig picture with which the picture
will appear in the DVI file?

Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., the
picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert the
same picture twice, one with "-m 0.5" and the other one without "-m
0.5"; you will see no difference.)
  I use Tgif rather than xfig and it provides an .eps version of each
figure. I then import that graphic file into a figure float and use the
figure dialog box to scale and otherwise twiddle with the appearance on the
typeset page.
  Would this not work for you?
Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using 
"insert-->external material" because I would like to have things like 
$\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as 
LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX 
code. In short, with "insert-->external material" and Xfig, it is 
possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy 
for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures 
included with "insert-->external material", likewise it already happens 
with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems 
that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.

Paul

Re: problem with accents after kde update

[stephan beal]

On Monday 23 August 2004 03:26, Mario Lopes wrote:
> Need some help please, I really need LyX running smoothly! Well,
> yes.. I'm a LyX-dependent ;-)

As a temporary work around, if you have another, non-upgraded box with 
lyx on it, you can run it over X11 from the other machine. Not a 
solution, i know, but it might allow you to work again until the 
problem is solved.

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Re: Difference between "pdf" "dvipdfm" and "pdflatex" ?

[stephan beal]

On Monday 23 August 2004 10:53, Helge Hafting wrote:
> pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it
> unless you really need
> some feature only found in the others.

Or if it creates incomplete PDFs. :/ i've got one doc which doesn't use 
any special features (no indexing, no images, no formulas... nothing 
but text and section numbers), but one of the pages it generates (out 
of 18 or so) is half blank, and causes gv to crash throw an error while 
rendering that page. Running one of the other PDF exports works fine.

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Re: problem with accents after kde update

[Stefano Baroni]

Some time ago, I also reported similar problems with the Mac OS X port 
that I am using.
Stefano Baroni

On Aug 23, 2004, at 3:26 AM, Mario Lopes wrote:
Hi there!
I'm currently using Suse 9.1 and I've updated kde 3.2 to latest 
version 3.3 and everything runs fine except accents inside LyX.

Since my update, I can't use chars like à è ò or á é ã õ that my 
language needs. I did an effort and set keyboard mapping to Portuguese 
(Portugese is how it is written inside Lyx) and now I'm managed to 
have ` and ~ working, but á é, etc.. doesn't work. It's the only 
accent that doesn't work. Besides this, every character works great in 
all programas, except LyX :-(

Need some help please, I really need LyX running smoothly! Well, yes.. 
I'm a LyX-dependent ;-)

Best Regards,
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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:
> Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using
> "insert-->external material" because I would like to have things like
> $\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as
> LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX
> code. In short, with "insert-->external material" and Xfig, it is
> possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy
> for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures
> included with "insert-->external material", likewise it already happens
> with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems
> that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.

Ha! Easy! It took three months of quite intensive thought and coding to do
so.

Anyway, this being a 1.4.x feature, it isn't much use to you. You will need
to use some ERT.


$$Resize $$Rotate


...


}}


$$Resize is 
\scalebox{0.5}{0.5}{
or
\resizebox{}{}{

where  and  are latex lengths (2cm, 20em, etc) or an
exclamation mark meaning keep the aspect ratio consistent with the other
scaling.

$$Rotate is
\rotatebox[]{}{

where  is some combo of
default (centre)
t   top
b   bottom
B   baseline
together with
l   left (default)
c   centre
r   right

and  is in degrees.

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Need to use \typearea when using \setspace

[Jan Smid]

Hi,

when using onehalfspacing in koma-article class , is it necessary to use 
\typearea[current]{calc} in the preamble, as proposed in the koma-script 
documentation? This leads to very large margin in the .dvi - to large for my 
taste. Or is the calclation done in a correct way?

-j

Re: LyX/Mac OS 10.3.4: wrong paths

[Viktor Horvath]

Running texhash as root, LyX-Setup and Edit->Reconfigure doesn't help 
either... it still can't find any classes. If you tell me which log files / 
command outputs to post, I'll do it gladly...

Greetings,
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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Helge Hafting]

Re-sending as the previous one got lost?
Paul Smith wrote:
Mark Carroll wrote:
I am inserting a Xfig picture via "insert-->external material". Is 
there
some way of setting the scale of the Xfig picture with which the 
picture
will appear in the DVI file?

In the "parameters" field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you set
the filename you can set an "-m" scaling option - for instance, "-m 0.5"
to halve its size.

Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., 
the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert 
the same picture twice, one with "-m 0.5" and the other one without 
"-m 0.5"; you will see no difference.) 
Scaling works fine, but there are some problems that needs workarounds:
1.  Entering the scale option the first time you include a figure works, 
adding the scale
   option later doesn't.  This happens because lyx converts "file.fig" 
into "file.eps" and "file.pstex_t".
   Lyx (1.3.4) erroneously believes this only has to be done once.  The 
conversion is re-done
   if you change "file.fig" from lyx, not if you change it outside lyx 
or change the parameter list.

   Workaround:  Delete "file.eps" and "file.pstex_t" after changing 
conversion parameters (such as
   using -m 0.5) or after editing "file.fig" outside lyx. 
   You will then get the size you want!

2. Including the same figure twice with different conversion parameters 
(i.e. different size)
   does not work.  This because lyx converts the first figure, then 
looks at the second figure
   using the same file and notices that the .eps and the .pstex_t 
exists (made in the previous conversion)
   and then believes the job is done and skips it.  Not skipping it 
wouldn't help, because a re-conversion
   would overwrite the files needed to display the first figure right.
  
   Workaround:  If you really need the same figure several times _with 
different size_,
   make a copy (or a link) with a different filename.  Then, two 
conversions happens
   and you get .eps+.pstex_t files with different names (and different 
internal sizes).
   Copy the file if you might want to change the figures independently 
of each other.
   Make a link if you want only one figure for future editing, changing 
either the original
   or the link later will then change both.

So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work 
around its quirks.
If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that 
removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.

Helge Hafting

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Helge Hafting wrote:
In the "parameters" field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you set
the filename you can set an "-m" scaling option - for instance, "-m 0.5"
to halve its size.
Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e., 
the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert 
the same picture twice, one with "-m 0.5" and the other one without 
"-m 0.5"; you will see no difference.) 
Scaling works fine, but there are some problems that needs workarounds:
1.  Entering the scale option the first time you include a figure works, 
adding the scale
   option later doesn't.  This happens because lyx converts "file.fig" 
into "file.eps" and "file.pstex_t".
   Lyx (1.3.4) erroneously believes this only has to be done once.  The 
conversion is re-done
   if you change "file.fig" from lyx, not if you change it outside lyx 
or change the parameter list.

   Workaround:  Delete "file.eps" and "file.pstex_t" after changing 
conversion parameters (such as
   using -m 0.5) or after editing "file.fig" outside lyx.You will 
then get the size you want!

2. Including the same figure twice with different conversion parameters 
(i.e. different size)
   does not work.  This because lyx converts the first figure, then 
looks at the second figure
   using the same file and notices that the .eps and the .pstex_t exists 
(made in the previous conversion)
   and then believes the job is done and skips it.  Not skipping it 
wouldn't help, because a re-conversion
   would overwrite the files needed to display the first figure right.
 Workaround:  If you really need the same figure several times _with 
different size_,
   make a copy (or a link) with a different filename.  Then, two 
conversions happens
   and you get .eps+.pstex_t files with different names (and different 
internal sizes).
   Copy the file if you might want to change the figures independently 
of each other.
   Make a link if you want only one figure for future editing, changing 
either the original
   or the link later will then change both.

So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work 
around its quirks.
If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that 
removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.
Thanks, Helge. Your workarounds do work fine. I do not need (at least 
currently) to insert the same picture twice; I only mentioned that to 
show _more_ clearly that something was wrong.

Paul

[lyx-users] in the subject line

[Paul Smith]

Dear All
I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to 
have the label "[lyx-users]" automatically inserted in the subject line 
of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

Regards,
Paul

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Paul Smith]

Angus Leeming wrote:
Thanks, Rich. Xfig is also able to produce eps pictures. I am using
"insert-->external material" because I would like to have things like
$\delta$ (LaTeX code) displayed over the picture, in the dvi file, as
LaTeX would output it, i.e., showing the Greek letter and not the LaTeX
code. In short, with "insert-->external material" and Xfig, it is
possible to combine LaTeX code with pictures. I think it would be easy
for the developers to implement a figure dialog box to scale pictures
included with "insert-->external material", likewise it already happens
with the importation of an usual graphic file, as, internally, it seems
that LyX includes the picture with the usual command \includegraphics.
Ha! Easy! It took three months of quite intensive thought and coding to do
so.
Sorry, Angus, I did not imagine that would be so difficult.
Paul

Drowing

[Hannan Seder]

Hi,
I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics 
(Electricity).

Does someone have any recommendation?
Hannan

Re: [lyx-users] in the subject line

[Johann Haarhoff]

>I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to

>have the label "[lyx-users]" automatically inserted in the subject
line 
>of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
>mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

I agree, I have suggested it before, but the motion was not very well
met. It is true that most mail clients have the capability to filter the
BCC etc. fields, and one can filter all your lyx-users mail into a
separate folder. My employer however, forces us to use the "Groupwise
Mail Client", arguably one of the crappiest pieces of software ever
written. I can only filter the "To" field, and if there are multiple
recipients, and "lyx-users" is not first, the filter fails. This leaves
me with half my lyx-users mail in the "Inbox" and the other in the "lyx"
folder.

Anyways, I agree that this would be usefull. It is not important enough
for me to spend money on, but maybe if you begged/bribed the list
maintainer he/she would add this feature. 

Regards,

Johann

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Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Georg Baum]

Helge Hafting wrote:
> So, the magnification parameter works fine, when you know how to work
> around its quirks.
> If you change figures a lot, consider having a cleanup script that
> removes .eps+.pstex_t files,
> it is useful untilthe problem gets fixed in lyx.

These problems are fixed in lyx 1.4cvs, but it is too difficult to fix them
in 1.3.


Georg

Re: Xfig, external material and scale

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:

> Helge Hafting wrote:
 In the "parameters" field (for fig2dev) of the dialog box where you
 set the filename you can set an "-m" scaling option - for instance,
 "-m 0.5" to halve its size.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mark. I had already tried that, but it does not work, i.e.,
>>> the picture appears in DVI file with the original size. (Try to insert
>>> the same picture twice, one with "-m 0.5" and the other one without
>>> "-m 0.5"; you will see no difference.)

[ details snipped ]

> Thanks, Helge. Your workarounds do work fine. I do not need (at least
> currently) to insert the same picture twice; I only mentioned that to
> show _more_ clearly that something was wrong.

Note also that the ability to pass options to the converter program used by
the external inset has been removed from 1.4.x. The 1.4.x code uses the
same 'converter' mechanism as is used by the rest of lyx (eg the graphics
inset). We had, therefore, to remove this option code because it opened up
a security risk. (Your 1.3.x code is safe, BTW.)

This will change back again in the future (maybe in time for 1.4, but
probably not) when all external programs are launched via the safe 'exec'
family of functions rather than the unsafe 'system' command.

Rationale: imagine a lyx file that resulted in a call to the converter
convert `rm -f *` input.eps output.png

The above is fine if lauched via 'execvp' but will be rather nasty if
lauched via 'system'.


-- 
Angus

Re: in the subject line

[Angus Leeming]

Paul Smith wrote:

> Dear All
> 
> I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
> have the label "[lyx-users]" automatically inserted in the subject line
> of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
> mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

No. It's mindless clutter.

Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

-- 
Angus

Re: Difference between "pdf" "dvipdfm" and "pdflatex" ?

[Herbert Voss]

stephan beal wrote:
On Monday 23 August 2004 10:53, Helge Hafting wrote:
pdflatex is also a lot faster than the other alternatives, so use it
unless you really need
some feature only found in the others.

Or if it creates incomplete PDFs. :/ i've got one doc which doesn't use 
any special features (no indexing, no images, no formulas... nothing 
but text and section numbers), but one of the pages it generates (out 
of 18 or so) is half blank, and causes gv to crash throw an error while 
rendering that page. Running one of the other PDF exports works fine.
then you have a bug in your document ...
Herbert

Re: Drowing

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Hannan Seder wrote:

> I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics
> (Electricity).
>
> Does someone have any recommendation?

Hannan,

  When I went looking for a vector drawing program earlier this year I
discovered that there are at least seven out there. Many folks use xfig,
others use ipe, sketch, and so on. I settled on one called tgif. I found it
better documented than the others, it had a shorter learning curve for me
and it draws curved lines (such as Gaussian curves) more easily and
symmetrically than the others I tried. They're all good. Look on the SAL Web
site (Scientific Applications for Linux).

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)

Beamer

[Carlos Fernando Knauer]

Hi.
Is there a special class to use Beamer ?
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Re: [lyx-users] in the subject line

[John Levon]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 12:55:26PM +0100, Paul Smith wrote:

> I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to 
> have the label "[lyx-users]" automatically inserted in the subject line 
> of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other 
> mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?

No, this isn't going to happen. You need to find out how to get your
mail client to filter on other headers than the subject line

regards
john

Re: in the subject line

[Angus Leeming]

Johann Haarhoff wrote:
> I agree, I have suggested it before, but the motion was not very well
> met. It is true that most mail clients have the capability to filter the
> BCC etc. fields, and one can filter all your lyx-users mail into a
> separate folder. My employer however, forces us to use the "Groupwise
> Mail Client", arguably one of the crappiest pieces of software ever
> written. I can only filter the "To" field, and if there are multiple
> recipients, and "lyx-users" is not first, the filter fails. This leaves
> me with half my lyx-users mail in the "Inbox" and the other in the "lyx"
> folder.

Does your employer allow you to read lyx-users via the gmane news
interface?

http://www.gmane.org/
nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.general

Just a thought.
-- 
Angus

per-$DISPLAY font zoom?

[Alexis Huxley]

Hi, I'm using a 21" screen and a 14" laptop for LyX.

I keep having to change the font zoom from the
Edit/Preferences/Screen-Fonts menu when I go from
one monitor to the other.

Is there a way to specify a per-$DISPLAY value here?
If there is an X resource for it then I can xrdb
merge it; or I can if LyX will not overrule that with
the preference-specified value. 

Any help appreciated. Thanks!

Alexis

Re: in the subject line

[Peter Harkins]

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 02:59:57PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Paul Smith wrote:
> 
> > Dear All
> > 
> > I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
> > have the label "[lyx-users]" automatically inserted in the subject line
> > of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
> > mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?
> 
> No. It's mindless clutter.
> 
> Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

I agree with Angus that it's a bad idea to add a tag to subject lines, but I
find filtering on the To or List-Post headers to be best. Here's a snip from
my procmailrc, for procmail users.

:0
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/path/to/mail/lyx-users/

If you decide to filter on List-Post, the following (untested) should work.

:0
* ^List-Post: 
/path/to/mail/lyx-users/

Whether or not you happen to use procmail, the orginal poster's mail client
(Mozilla Thunderbird) can definitely filter on one of these other fields,
just look around in the documentation.


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Re: Beamer

[Paul A. Rubin]

Carlos Fernando Knauer wrote:
Hi.
Is there a special class to use Beamer ?
The beamer LaTeX package installs the LaTeX class beamer.cls and a bunch 
of style files.  The beamer package includes a LyX layout file 
(beamer.layout) and a LyX template (beamerpresentation.lyx).  These 
install in subdirectories under the .../tex/latex/beamer directory in 
your TeX file tree.  You need to copy them to the corresponding LyX 
directories (for instance, the layouts and templates directories under 
your document home directory).

-- Paul

Re: Beamer

[Angus Leeming]

Carlos Fernando Knauer wrote:

> Hi.
> Is there a special class to use Beamer ?

You mean a lyx layout class to go with the latex beamer class of
http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ ? It comes with one, although the
author has had to work very hard to make lyx understand his class.

-- 
Angus

Finding Labels in Text

[Rich Shepard]

  I've somehow managed to enter a label twice. While I suppose it doesn't
matter technically, it is not elegant and I'd like to clean it up. To do so,
I need to find all references to that label and make sure that each one
points to only one instance of it.

  I've tried searching for the the label string and for the chapter heading
it references. "Find" doesn't find any matching hits. I'm sure I've not
specified the search string correctly.

  Please pass me a pointer on how to find all references to a label.

Thanks,

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)

Re: in the subject line

[Andrew Morrison]

On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 08:59, Angus Leeming wrote:
> Paul Smith wrote:
> 
> > Dear All
> > 
> > I think it would be helpful (for identifying and managing messages) to
> > have the label "[lyx-users]" automatically inserted in the subject line
> > of the messages of this list, similarly to what happens with other
> > mailing lists. Do you agree that it would be useful?
> 
> No. It's mindless clutter.
> 

I disagree.  I often want to check the subject lines of new mail without
downloading it to the client.  Usually I want to see none mailing list
messages, so I pipe through grep: 'nfrm | grep -v LUG | grep -v
development'.   Without anything to grep on this list, I see all the
subject lines of messages I know I don't want to read.  To me, *that* is
clutter. 

> Use the From field to filter your mail into separate folders. 

[I think you have to use the To: field, but I could be wrong.]

Re: Drowing

[John Coppens]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:14:58 +
Hannan Seder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for a program to drown shapes and surfaces in physics 
> (Electricity).
> 
> Does someone have any recommendation?

Hi Hannan.

Think first if you really _want_ to draw these complicated shapes. If you
have them available from another program, print them to a file in
postscript format, and directly import them - a lot easier than to draw
them again.

I'm a Sketch (now Skencil) fan for drawing.

John

> 
> Hannan

Re: per-$DISPLAY font zoom?

[Angus Leeming]

Alexis Huxley wrote:

> Hi, I'm using a 21" screen and a 14" laptop for LyX.
> 
> I keep having to change the font zoom from the
> Edit/Preferences/Screen-Fonts menu when I go from
> one monitor to the other.
> 
> Is there a way to specify a per-$DISPLAY value here?
> If there is an X resource for it then I can xrdb
> merge it; or I can if LyX will not overrule that with
> the preference-specified value.
> 
> Any help appreciated. Thanks!

Sorry. I think you're out of luck. FWIW, I don't think that the Qt frontend
knows what X resources are, let alone uses them. A Qt-thingie.

-- 
Angus

Re: Finding Labels in Text

[Angus Leeming]

Rich Shepard wrote:

>   I've somehow managed to enter a label twice. While I suppose it doesn't
> matter technically, it is not elegant and I'd like to clean it up. To do
> so, I need to find all references to that label and make sure that each
> one points to only one instance of it.
> 
>   I've tried searching for the the label string and for the chapter
>   heading
> it references. "Find" doesn't find any matching hits. I'm sure I've not
> specified the search string correctly.
> 
>   Please pass me a pointer on how to find all references to a label.

grep -n my_label *.lyx

?

Actually, since a label reference is just a string, removing the extra
label 'should just work'.

-- 
Angus