Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Helge Hafting]

Rich Shepard wrote:


On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


Copying tables, and anything else, is trivial as long as we're talking
about copying from one lyx document to another. The recipe is simple:



Helge,

  As I wrote, this is exactly what I tried to do.

To copy a table float, mark the entire float using the mouse (or 
keyboard)
and press ctrl+c for copy. Then, switch to the other document, 
position the

cursor where you want the table float to go, and press ctrl+v for paste.



  Interesting. I used the paste external rather than paste. Perhaps 
that was
the problem. 


That's the problem then.  The external system is mostly ascii, and will
create ascii representations of tables and such.  It is meant for
pasting to/from other applications, lyx does not know what kind of data
other apps use, and other apps does not know what lyx wants.  So
ascii is the lowest common denominator.

The _internal_ pasting system supports copying and pasting of anything
you're able to write.  Including complicated tables and deeply
nested environments.




  Just for giggles, I'll try it again even though I've done the 
copying using

a text editor.


Internal pasting will definitely save time over that approach the next
time you need it. :-)

Helge Hafting

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 David == David Soukal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David Hello, I started to write a presentation in LyX using the
David Beamer document class. Everythings seems to be working perfect.
David Only, I wasn't able to figure out how to insert an optional
David argument for some of the environments (like Date). When I open
David the LyX demo files that came with Beamer, most of them have the
David optional arguments but I am unable to create them in my
David presentation. The optional arguments look like ERT boxes except
David their tab says opt...

David So far I managed by copying the opt-boxes from the demo file
David but I was wondering how they were inserted in the demos.

Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Angus Leeming]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Type optional-insert in the minibuffer at the bottom, then type your
 option in the widget/thingie that gets inserted.

The menu entry Insert-Short Title does the same thing too.

Angus

No word lists can be found for the language en_GB

[Konrad Blum]

Hi,

I am lost with above error message:  SuSE 9.3, Lyx 1.3.6. ispell and
dictionaries for britisch is installed.
What might I check and do?

-KB

===
Dr. Konrad Blum / PPRE / EHF / Dept. Physics / Fac. Maths  Science
  Carl von Ossietzky University of Oldenburg / http://www.ppre.de

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[David Soukal]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

David == David Soukal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



David Hello, I started to write a presentation in LyX using the
David Beamer document class. Everythings seems to be working perfect.
David Only, I wasn't able to figure out how to insert an optional
David argument for some of the environments (like Date). When I open
David the LyX demo files that came with Beamer, most of them have the
David optional arguments but I am unable to create them in my
David presentation. The optional arguments look like ERT boxes except
David their tab says opt...

David So far I managed by copying the opt-boxes from the demo file
David but I was wondering how they were inserted in the demos.

Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc


Thank you for help guys! I got everything looking as needed.

I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know whether 
it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot insert the OPT 
box for environments where it should be possible. For example, the 
author of Beamer recommends to enter an optional argument fragile for 
the frame environment in situations when the frame contains verbatim 
text. I didn't manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.


I tried a trick with an ERT box with [fragile], set right at the 
beginning of the frame. But it won't work because it creates LaTeX code 
\lyxframe{[fragile]...}


This is not really a big deal because everythings works OK without any 
parameters.. but I'd like to be ready :)


Thank you again,

Daivd

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 David == David Soukal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know
David whether it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot
David insert the OPT box for environments where it should be
David possible. For example, the author of Beamer recommends to enter
David an optional argument fragile for the frame environment in
David situations when the frame contains verbatim text. I didn't
David manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.

This can be specified in the beamer.layout file.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc



I had no idea that worked.  (I'd assumed that it literally inserted 
*only* the optional short version of a title.)  How about Insert-Option 
or Insert-Optional argument?  Those are sufficiently obvious that I 
suspect they were considered and rejected for some reason.


Paul

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Paul == Paul A Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
 have not been able to come up with something better. JMarc

Paul I had no idea that worked. (I'd assumed that it literally
Paul inserted *only* the optional short version of a title.) How
Paul about Insert- Option or Insert-Optional argument? Those are
Paul sufficiently obvious that I suspect they were considered and
Paul rejected for some reason.

Well, the idea was that we wanted to use that for sections and
captions, where short title made perfect sense. Optional argument only
makes sense if one understands the underlying LaTeX code.

Ideally, we should be able to set the string in the layout file, but
we are not quite ready for that.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Paul A. Rubin]

David Soukal wrote:

I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know whether 
it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot insert the OPT 
box for environments where it should be possible. For example, the 
author of Beamer recommends to enter an optional argument fragile for 
the frame environment in situations when the frame contains verbatim 
text. I didn't manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.


I tried a trick with an ERT box with [fragile], set right at the 
beginning of the frame. But it won't work because it creates LaTeX code 
\lyxframe{[fragile]...}


This is normal behavior.  For instance, if you put [+-] in ERT at the 
beginning of the frame title, you'll get \lyxframe{[+-]...} where ... 
is the frame title text, and it will function correctly (itemized 
entries will automatically trigger new overlays).  So I think the 
problem with fragile may be a defect in the coding of the lyxframe macro.


You might want to e-mail a report of this to Till Tantau, the author of 
the Beamer package (including the beamer.layout file).


Paul

Re: Fails to convert image (at preview)

[Koji Yokota]

Oh, yes. .eps - .ppm converter was mistakenly specified in Preference.
Removing it corrected the problem.

Now, I understand the purpose of the Converter tab in Preference :)
(Was there a documentation for this? Sorry, I'm only a user :)

Anyway, thank you very much.

Koji Yokota

On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 08:22:18AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
 So, it seems the phenomenon I observed is a natural consequence in my 
 current environment.
 Do I need to modify lyxpreview2ppm.py?
 
 lyxpreview2ppm.py is meant to be used to create WYSIWYG-type previews of 
 things like Math equations. See http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/InstantPreview. The 
 process of generating these images is rather involved, requiring a special 
 LaTeX package, preview.sty, together with a conversion from LaTeX document 
 - dvi file - (possibly lots and lots of) bitmap images of the math 
 equations.
 
 If you want to simply view your .eps images within LyX, I recommend that 
 you remove and explicit converter .eps - .ppm (or .png). The converter 
 mechanism will then fall through to the use of scripts/convertDefault.sh 
 which is simply a wrapper for ImageMagick's convert utility. Install that 
 and all should work perfectly.
 
 Let me know if you continue to have problems.
 
 Angus
 

-- 
Koji Yokota ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Department of Economics
Otaru University of Commerce

Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


That's the problem then.  The external system is mostly ascii, and will
create ascii representations of tables and such. It is meant for pasting
to/from other applications, lyx does not know what kind of data other apps
use, and other apps does not know what lyx wants. So ascii is the lowest
common denominator.


Helge,

  A major part of the problem is that this is not documented anywhere. I
looked in the users guide, advanced guide, and configuration guide and did
not find an explanation of the external paste. That should be added ASAP.


The _internal_ pasting system supports copying and pasting of anything
you're able to write. Including complicated tables and deeply nested
environments.


  In the documentation it should note that paste works across documents as
well as within a document.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


... and press ctrl+v for paste.


Helge, et al.:

  This was my problem. I used the external paste rather than regular paste,
and the former did not work. The latter does. I had assumed that ctrl-v was
for pasting selections within the same document while paste external
selection was used with transfers between documents. Apparently not.

  When is paste external selection appropriate? I find no mention of this
feature in any of the help documents.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Fails to convert image (at preview)

[Angus Leeming]

Koji Yokota wrote:
 Oh, yes. .eps - .ppm converter was mistakenly specified in Preference.
 Removing it corrected the problem.
 
 Now, I understand the purpose of the Converter tab in Preference :)
 (Was there a documentation for this? Sorry, I'm only a user :)

Sort of :)
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FiguresInLyX

 Anyway, thank you very much.

My pleasure!

-- 
Angus

Re: Compiling LyX 1.3.6 with qt: SegFault

[Jim Osborn]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at  9:00:21PM -0700, Jim Osborn wrote:
 My config: gcc 3.4.3, QT 3.3.4, Linux kernel 2.4.23, PII.
 the QT was compiled with this same compiler, fwiw.
 and of course it all worked fine with LyX 1.3.5, same QT.

Just a followup: I tried building LyX 1.3.5 with KDE 3.4.2 and it
fails at exactly the same point as LyX 1.3.6, so, fwiw, it seems to
be either a KDE or a QT/KDE problem, not just a problem with the new
LyX.

Too bad, as I was hoping to upgrade Konqueror, but not if it
causes me to lose LyX.

Cheers,

Jim

Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Helge Hafting]

Rich Shepard wrote:


On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


Copying tables, and anything else, is trivial as long as we're talking
about copying from one lyx document to another. The recipe is simple:



Helge,

  As I wrote, this is exactly what I tried to do.

To copy a table float, mark the entire float using the mouse (or 
keyboard)
and press ctrl+c for copy. Then, switch to the other document, 
position the

cursor where you want the table float to go, and press ctrl+v for paste.



  Interesting. I used the paste external rather than paste. Perhaps 
that was
the problem. 


That's the problem then.  The external system is mostly ascii, and will
create ascii representations of tables and such.  It is meant for
pasting to/from other applications, lyx does not know what kind of data
other apps use, and other apps does not know what lyx wants.  So
ascii is the lowest common denominator.

The _internal_ pasting system supports copying and pasting of anything
you're able to write.  Including complicated tables and deeply
nested environments.




  Just for giggles, I'll try it again even though I've done the 
copying using

a text editor.


Internal pasting will definitely save time over that approach the next
time you need it. :-)

Helge Hafting

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 David == David Soukal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David Hello, I started to write a presentation in LyX using the
David Beamer document class. Everythings seems to be working perfect.
David Only, I wasn't able to figure out how to insert an optional
David argument for some of the environments (like Date). When I open
David the LyX demo files that came with Beamer, most of them have the
David optional arguments but I am unable to create them in my
David presentation. The optional arguments look like ERT boxes except
David their tab says opt...

David So far I managed by copying the opt-boxes from the demo file
David but I was wondering how they were inserted in the demos.

Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Angus Leeming]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 Type optional-insert in the minibuffer at the bottom, then type your
 option in the widget/thingie that gets inserted.

The menu entry Insert-Short Title does the same thing too.

Angus

No word lists can be found for the language en_GB

[Konrad Blum]

Hi,

I am lost with above error message:  SuSE 9.3, Lyx 1.3.6. ispell and
dictionaries for britisch is installed.
What might I check and do?

-KB

===
Dr. Konrad Blum / PPRE / EHF / Dept. Physics / Fac. Maths  Science
  Carl von Ossietzky University of Oldenburg / http://www.ppre.de

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[David Soukal]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

David == David Soukal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



David Hello, I started to write a presentation in LyX using the
David Beamer document class. Everythings seems to be working perfect.
David Only, I wasn't able to figure out how to insert an optional
David argument for some of the environments (like Date). When I open
David the LyX demo files that came with Beamer, most of them have the
David optional arguments but I am unable to create them in my
David presentation. The optional arguments look like ERT boxes except
David their tab says opt...

David So far I managed by copying the opt-boxes from the demo file
David but I was wondering how they were inserted in the demos.

Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc


Thank you for help guys! I got everything looking as needed.

I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know whether 
it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot insert the OPT 
box for environments where it should be possible. For example, the 
author of Beamer recommends to enter an optional argument fragile for 
the frame environment in situations when the frame contains verbatim 
text. I didn't manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.


I tried a trick with an ERT box with [fragile], set right at the 
beginning of the frame. But it won't work because it creates LaTeX code 
\lyxframe{[fragile]...}


This is not really a big deal because everythings works OK without any 
parameters.. but I'd like to be ready :)


Thank you again,

Daivd

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 David == David Soukal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know
David whether it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot
David insert the OPT box for environments where it should be
David possible. For example, the author of Beamer recommends to enter
David an optional argument fragile for the frame environment in
David situations when the frame contains verbatim text. I didn't
David manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.

This can be specified in the beamer.layout file.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc



I had no idea that worked.  (I'd assumed that it literally inserted 
*only* the optional short version of a title.)  How about Insert-Option 
or Insert-Optional argument?  Those are sufficiently obvious that I 
suspect they were considered and rejected for some reason.


Paul

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Paul == Paul A Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
 Use InsertShort Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
 have not been able to come up with something better. JMarc

Paul I had no idea that worked. (I'd assumed that it literally
Paul inserted *only* the optional short version of a title.) How
Paul about Insert- Option or Insert-Optional argument? Those are
Paul sufficiently obvious that I suspect they were considered and
Paul rejected for some reason.

Well, the idea was that we wanted to use that for sections and
captions, where short title made perfect sense. Optional argument only
makes sense if one understands the underlying LaTeX code.

Ideally, we should be able to set the string in the layout file, but
we are not quite ready for that.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Paul A. Rubin]

David Soukal wrote:

I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know whether 
it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot insert the OPT 
box for environments where it should be possible. For example, the 
author of Beamer recommends to enter an optional argument fragile for 
the frame environment in situations when the frame contains verbatim 
text. I didn't manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.


I tried a trick with an ERT box with [fragile], set right at the 
beginning of the frame. But it won't work because it creates LaTeX code 
\lyxframe{[fragile]...}


This is normal behavior.  For instance, if you put [+-] in ERT at the 
beginning of the frame title, you'll get \lyxframe{[+-]...} where ... 
is the frame title text, and it will function correctly (itemized 
entries will automatically trigger new overlays).  So I think the 
problem with fragile may be a defect in the coding of the lyxframe macro.


You might want to e-mail a report of this to Till Tantau, the author of 
the Beamer package (including the beamer.layout file).


Paul

Re: Fails to convert image (at preview)

[Koji Yokota]

Oh, yes. .eps - .ppm converter was mistakenly specified in Preference.
Removing it corrected the problem.

Now, I understand the purpose of the Converter tab in Preference :)
(Was there a documentation for this? Sorry, I'm only a user :)

Anyway, thank you very much.

Koji Yokota

On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 08:22:18AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
 So, it seems the phenomenon I observed is a natural consequence in my 
 current environment.
 Do I need to modify lyxpreview2ppm.py?
 
 lyxpreview2ppm.py is meant to be used to create WYSIWYG-type previews of 
 things like Math equations. See http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/InstantPreview. The 
 process of generating these images is rather involved, requiring a special 
 LaTeX package, preview.sty, together with a conversion from LaTeX document 
 - dvi file - (possibly lots and lots of) bitmap images of the math 
 equations.
 
 If you want to simply view your .eps images within LyX, I recommend that 
 you remove and explicit converter .eps - .ppm (or .png). The converter 
 mechanism will then fall through to the use of scripts/convertDefault.sh 
 which is simply a wrapper for ImageMagick's convert utility. Install that 
 and all should work perfectly.
 
 Let me know if you continue to have problems.
 
 Angus
 

-- 
Koji Yokota ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Department of Economics
Otaru University of Commerce

Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


That's the problem then.  The external system is mostly ascii, and will
create ascii representations of tables and such. It is meant for pasting
to/from other applications, lyx does not know what kind of data other apps
use, and other apps does not know what lyx wants. So ascii is the lowest
common denominator.


Helge,

  A major part of the problem is that this is not documented anywhere. I
looked in the users guide, advanced guide, and configuration guide and did
not find an explanation of the external paste. That should be added ASAP.


The _internal_ pasting system supports copying and pasting of anything
you're able to write. Including complicated tables and deeply nested
environments.


  In the documentation it should note that paste works across documents as
well as within a document.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


... and press ctrl+v for paste.


Helge, et al.:

  This was my problem. I used the external paste rather than regular paste,
and the former did not work. The latter does. I had assumed that ctrl-v was
for pasting selections within the same document while paste external
selection was used with transfers between documents. Apparently not.

  When is paste external selection appropriate? I find no mention of this
feature in any of the help documents.

Thanks,

Rich

--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President |   Author of Quantifying Environmental
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Fails to convert image (at preview)

[Angus Leeming]

Koji Yokota wrote:
 Oh, yes. .eps - .ppm converter was mistakenly specified in Preference.
 Removing it corrected the problem.
 
 Now, I understand the purpose of the Converter tab in Preference :)
 (Was there a documentation for this? Sorry, I'm only a user :)

Sort of :)
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FiguresInLyX

 Anyway, thank you very much.

My pleasure!

-- 
Angus

Re: Compiling LyX 1.3.6 with qt: SegFault

[Jim Osborn]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at  9:00:21PM -0700, Jim Osborn wrote:
 My config: gcc 3.4.3, QT 3.3.4, Linux kernel 2.4.23, PII.
 the QT was compiled with this same compiler, fwiw.
 and of course it all worked fine with LyX 1.3.5, same QT.

Just a followup: I tried building LyX 1.3.5 with KDE 3.4.2 and it
fails at exactly the same point as LyX 1.3.6, so, fwiw, it seems to
be either a KDE or a QT/KDE problem, not just a problem with the new
LyX.

Too bad, as I was hoping to upgrade Konqueror, but not if it
causes me to lose LyX.

Cheers,

Jim

Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Helge Hafting]

Rich Shepard wrote:


On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


Copying tables, and anything else, is trivial as long as we're talking
about copying from one lyx document to another. The recipe is simple:



Helge,

  As I wrote, this is exactly what I tried to do.

To copy a table float, mark the entire float using the mouse (or 
keyboard)
and press ctrl+c for copy. Then, switch to the other document, 
position the

cursor where you want the table float to go, and press ctrl+v for paste.



  Interesting. I used the paste external rather than paste. Perhaps 
that was
the problem. 


That's the problem then.  The external system is mostly ascii, and will
create ascii representations of tables and such.  It is meant for
pasting to/from other applications, lyx does not know what kind of data
other apps use, and other apps does not know what lyx wants.  So
ascii is the "lowest common denominator".

The _internal_ pasting system supports copying and pasting of anything
you're able to write.  Including complicated tables and deeply
nested environments.




  Just for giggles, I'll try it again even though I've done the 
copying using

a text editor.


Internal pasting will definitely save time over that approach the next
time you need it. :-)

Helge Hafting

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "David" == David Soukal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

David> Hello, I started to write a presentation in LyX using the
David> Beamer document class. Everythings seems to be working perfect.
David> Only, I wasn't able to figure out how to insert an optional
David> argument for some of the environments (like Date). When I open
David> the LyX demo files that came with Beamer, most of them have the
David> optional arguments but I am unable to create them in my
David> presentation. The optional arguments look like ERT boxes except
David> their tab says "opt"...

David> So far I managed by copying the opt-boxes from the demo file
David> but I was wondering how they were inserted in the demos.

Use Insert>Short Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Angus Leeming]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Type optional-insert in the minibuffer at the bottom, then type your
> option in the widget/thingie that gets inserted.

The menu entry Insert->Short Title does the same thing too.

Angus

No word lists can be found for the language "en_GB"

[Konrad Blum]

Hi,

I am lost with above error message:  SuSE 9.3, Lyx 1.3.6. ispell and
dictionaries for "britisch" is installed.
What might I check and do?

-KB

===
Dr. Konrad Blum / PPRE / EHF / Dept. Physics / Fac. Maths & Science
  Carl von Ossietzky University of Oldenburg / http://www.ppre.de

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[David Soukal]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

"David" == David Soukal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



David> Hello, I started to write a presentation in LyX using the
David> Beamer document class. Everythings seems to be working perfect.
David> Only, I wasn't able to figure out how to insert an optional
David> argument for some of the environments (like Date). When I open
David> the LyX demo files that came with Beamer, most of them have the
David> optional arguments but I am unable to create them in my
David> presentation. The optional arguments look like ERT boxes except
David> their tab says "opt"...

David> So far I managed by copying the opt-boxes from the demo file
David> but I was wondering how they were inserted in the demos.

Use Insert>Short Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc


Thank you for help guys! I got everything looking as needed.

I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know whether 
it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot insert the OPT 
box for environments where it should be possible. For example, the 
author of Beamer recommends to enter an optional argument "fragile" for 
the frame environment in situations when the frame contains verbatim 
text. I didn't manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.


I tried a trick with an ERT box with [fragile], set right at the 
beginning of the frame. But it won't work because it creates LaTeX code 
\lyxframe{[fragile]...}


This is not really a big deal because everythings works OK without any 
parameters.. but I'd like to be ready :)


Thank you again,

Daivd

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "David" == David Soukal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

David> I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know
David> whether it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot
David> insert the OPT box for environments where it should be
David> possible. For example, the author of Beamer recommends to enter
David> an optional argument "fragile" for the frame environment in
David> situations when the frame contains verbatim text. I didn't
David> manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.

This can be specified in the beamer.layout file.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Paul A. Rubin]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Use Insert>Short Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
have not been able to come up with something better.

JMarc



I had no idea that worked.  (I'd assumed that it literally inserted 
*only* the optional short version of a title.)  How about Insert->Option 
or Insert->Optional argument?  Those are sufficiently obvious that I 
suspect they were considered and rejected for some reason.


Paul

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Paul" == Paul A Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>> Use Insert>Short Title. I know the name is not very helpful, but we
>> have not been able to come up with something better. JMarc

Paul> I had no idea that worked. (I'd assumed that it literally
Paul> inserted *only* the optional short version of a title.) How
Paul> about Insert-> Option or Insert->Optional argument? Those are
Paul> sufficiently obvious that I suspect they were considered and
Paul> rejected for some reason.

Well, the idea was that we wanted to use that for sections and
captions, where short title made perfect sense. Optional argument only
makes sense if one understands the underlying LaTeX code.

Ideally, we should be able to set the string in the layout file, but
we are not quite ready for that.

JMarc

Re: how to insert optional arguments?

[Paul A. Rubin]

David Soukal wrote:

I have one more question regarind the OPT boxes. I don't know whether 
it's a bug or whether I missed something, but I cannot insert the OPT 
box for environments where it should be possible. For example, the 
author of Beamer recommends to enter an optional argument "fragile" for 
the frame environment in situations when the frame contains verbatim 
text. I didn't manage to get OPT for the BeginFrame environment in LyX.


I tried a trick with an ERT box with [fragile], set right at the 
beginning of the frame. But it won't work because it creates LaTeX code 
\lyxframe{[fragile]...}


This is normal behavior.  For instance, if you put [<+->] in ERT at the 
beginning of the frame title, you'll get \lyxframe{[<+->]...} where ... 
is the frame title text, and it will function correctly (itemized 
entries will automatically trigger new overlays).  So I think the 
problem with "fragile" may be a defect in the coding of the lyxframe macro.


You might want to e-mail a report of this to Till Tantau, the author of 
the Beamer package (including the beamer.layout file).


Paul

Re: Fails to convert image (at preview)

[Koji Yokota]

Oh, yes. .eps -> .ppm converter was mistakenly specified in Preference.
Removing it corrected the problem.

Now, I understand the purpose of the Converter tab in Preference :)
(Was there a documentation for this? Sorry, I'm only a user :)

Anyway, thank you very much.

Koji Yokota

On Tue, Sep 20, 2005 at 08:22:18AM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote:
> >So, it seems the phenomenon I observed is a natural consequence in my 
> >current environment.
> >Do I need to modify lyxpreview2ppm.py?
> 
> lyxpreview2ppm.py is meant to be used to create WYSIWYG-type previews of 
> things like Math equations. See http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/InstantPreview. The 
> process of generating these images is rather involved, requiring a special 
> LaTeX package, preview.sty, together with a conversion from LaTeX document 
> -> dvi file -> (possibly lots and lots of) bitmap images of the math 
> equations.
> 
> If you want to simply view your .eps images within LyX, I recommend that 
> you remove and explicit converter .eps -> .ppm (or .png). The converter 
> mechanism will then fall through to the use of scripts/convertDefault.sh 
> which is simply a wrapper for ImageMagick's "convert" utility. Install that 
> and all should work perfectly.
> 
> Let me know if you continue to have problems.
> 
> Angus
> 

-- 
Koji Yokota ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Department of Economics
Otaru University of Commerce

Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Rich Shepard]

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


That's the problem then.  The external system is mostly ascii, and will
create ascii representations of tables and such. It is meant for pasting
to/from other applications, lyx does not know what kind of data other apps
use, and other apps does not know what lyx wants. So ascii is the "lowest
common denominator".


Helge,

  A major part of the problem is that this is not documented anywhere. I
looked in the users guide, advanced guide, and configuration guide and did
not find an explanation of the external paste. That should be added ASAP.


The _internal_ pasting system supports copying and pasting of anything
you're able to write. Including complicated tables and deeply nested
environments.


  In the documentation it should note that paste works across documents as
well as within a document.

Thanks,

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic"
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Re: Copying A Table Float Across Documents

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Helge Hafting wrote:


... and press ctrl+v for paste.


Helge, et al.:

  This was my problem. I used the external paste rather than regular paste,
and the former did not work. The latter does. I had assumed that ctrl-v was
for pasting selections within the same document while paste "external
selection" was used with transfers between documents. Apparently not.

  When is "paste external selection" appropriate? I find no mention of this
feature in any of the help documents.

Thanks,

Rich

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Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) |  Impact Assessments Using Fuzzy Logic"
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Re: Fails to convert image (at preview)

[Angus Leeming]

Koji Yokota wrote:
> Oh, yes. .eps -> .ppm converter was mistakenly specified in Preference.
> Removing it corrected the problem.
> 
> Now, I understand the purpose of the Converter tab in Preference :)
> (Was there a documentation for this? Sorry, I'm only a user :)

Sort of :)
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FiguresInLyX

> Anyway, thank you very much.

My pleasure!

-- 
Angus

Re: Compiling LyX 1.3.6 with qt: SegFault

[Jim Osborn]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at  9:00:21PM -0700, Jim Osborn wrote:
> My config: gcc 3.4.3, QT 3.3.4, Linux kernel 2.4.23, PII.
> the QT was compiled with this same compiler, fwiw.
> and of course it all worked fine with LyX 1.3.5, same QT.

Just a followup: I tried building LyX 1.3.5 with KDE 3.4.2 and it
fails at exactly the same point as LyX 1.3.6, so, fwiw, it seems to
be either a KDE or a QT/KDE problem, not just a problem with the new
LyX.

Too bad, as I was hoping to upgrade Konqueror, but not if it
causes me to lose LyX.

Cheers,

Jim