Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
 On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
  I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now under
  lyx1.6.7.
  I used
  fileexportlyx1.6.x
  but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
  it is from a different version of lyx.
  lyx2lyx failed.

 Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a bug.

 rh

Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported that 
one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.

As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a .tex 
file, but I am told
an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...

As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
which worked well (except the size of some images was not well translated).
But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
an error occurred whilst running java -jar 
htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out

It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
reminds me of the mantra...

Wolfgang

query

[Nitin Bansal]

Dear Sir/Madam

I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
please help me to download


Thanks  Regards
NITIN BANSAL
Asstt. Professor
Department of Electronics  Instrumentation
Hindustan College Of Science  Technology, Farah ,Mathura
09897433286

Re: query

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

2010/9/19 Nitin Bansal nitin@gmail.com:
 Dear Sir/Madam

 I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
 download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
 as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
 please help me to download


Try http://www.lyx.org/Download instead (or just follow the link from
http://www.lyx.org )


hope this helps,
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: lyx2lyx

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
  On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
   How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
   I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now under
   lyx1.6.7.
   I used
   fileexportlyx1.6.x
   but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
   it is from a different version of lyx.
   lyx2lyx failed.
 
  Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a bug.
 
  rh
 
 Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported that 
 one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.
 
 As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a .tex 
 file, but I am told
 an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...
 
 As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
 elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
 which worked well (except the size of some images was not well translated).
 But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
 an error occurred whilst running java -jar 
 htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out
 
 It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
 reminds me of the mantra...
 
 Wolfgang
 

You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ .lyx but e.g. 
.lyx16 ?

Kornel


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Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Monday 20 September 2010 09:53:14 schrieb Kornel Benko:
 Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
  Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
   On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now
under lyx1.6.7.
I used
fileexportlyx1.6.x
but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
it is from a different version of lyx.
lyx2lyx failed.
  
   Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a
   bug.
  
   rh
 
  Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported
  that one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.
 
  As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a
  .tex file, but I am told
  an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...
 
  As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
  elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
  which worked well (except the size of some images was not well
  translated). But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
  an error occurred whilst running java -jar
  htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out
 
  It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
  reminds me of the mantra...
 
  Wolfgang

 You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ .lyx but
 e.g. .lyx16 ?

which means, lyx2.0.0svn is not exporting the lyx file for 1.6.x, since there 
is no .lyx16 

could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something 
which is missing in my case? Can I run this script (name?) separately and 
how? Has anybody successfully exported a .lyx16 file from 2.0.0?

Thanks, Kornel

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2lyx

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 04:46 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Monday 20 September 2010 09:53:14 schrieb Kornel Benko:
   

Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 

Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
   

On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 

How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now
under lyx1.6.7.
I used
fileexportlyx1.6.x
but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
it is from a different version of lyx.
lyx2lyx failed.
   

Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a
bug.

rh
 

Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported
that one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.

As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a
.tex file, but I am told
an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...

As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
which worked well (except the size of some images was not well
translated). But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
an error occurred whilst running java -jar
htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out

It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
reminds me of the mantra...

Wolfgang
   

You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ .lyx but
e.g. .lyx16 ?
 

which means, lyx2.0.0svn is not exporting the lyx file for 1.6.x, since there
is no .lyx16

could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something
which is missing in my case? Can I run this script (name?) separately and
how? Has anybody successfully exported a .lyx16 file from 2.0.0?

   

Yes, just tested it. But of course my file was different from yours.

If you've got both 1.6 and 2.0 installed, it is possible that LyX is 
trying to use the wrong lyx2lyx for one or the other of the tasks.


Alternatively, send me the file privately, and I'll have a look.

Richard

question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Ipacs Péter]

Hi Guys,

Forgive me if my question is newbie but I'm indeed a newbie both to latex
and to Lyx as well.I was trying to use some supported way to highlight
abbreviations in a Lyx document but I found no good way so far. I also did
the standard drill of looking through forums etc. without any luck.

What I'm trying to achieve is something similar to the behavior of the
abbr tag in HTML; a way to semantically tell that a given piece of text is
an abbreviation and the ability to apply a common style to all the different
abbreviations.

The nomenclature package looks promising but - as far as I understand - it
lacks this feature.

It would be also nice to have a capability in Lyx
that automatically converts pieces of texts into abbreviations based on the
list of nomenclatures entered previously.

Let me give you a quick example. I enter a nomenclature entry like:  HTML
= Hyper Text Markup Language, for example. Later in the document when I
write HTML Lyx would automatically recognize the text as a known
abbreviation and in the rendered document all the occurrences of the string
HTML would have been styled as italics - maybe as hyperlinks to the
nomenclature list.

What do you think? Is it possible to have something similar off the shelf?

Thank you in advance!

Cheers,
Peter

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Paul Rubin]

What you have in mind with automatic substitution would be a macro.  LyX 1.6.x
does not support macros directly; you can create them in the preamble if you
know how to write LaTeX code.  My impression is that LyX 2.0 will have a macro
capability.  As an alternative hand-coding macros in LaTeX, you can bind a
custom key combination to a sequence of LyX functions (LFUNs) that inserts what
you want (so that, for instance, Ctrl-Alt-H inserts HTML along with possibly
some custom formatting).  The downside there is that (a) there's a limited
number of uncommitted key combos and (b) if you're like me, you won't remember
them.

As far as markup goes, remember that your document will probably end up being
turned into a DVI, PS or PDF file, so the final product will not contain any
markup.  I think what you want is visual cues, which leads you to custom
character styles.  Rob Oakes has a nice blog post
(http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/14/customize-lyx-character-styles)
that will get you started on that.  I think Steve Litt also documented it
somewhere, but I'm afraid I don't have a link to his book handy.  Searching 
the archive of the user list should turn it up.

/Paul

Re: lyx2lyx

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something 
 which is missing in my case?

we already have one major bug concerning lyx2lyx, maybe its your case
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6809

in other words have you tried to change the file?
pavel

Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Monday 20 September 2010 17:17:47 schrieb Pavel Sanda:
 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs
  something which is missing in my case?

 we already have one major bug concerning lyx2lyx, maybe its your case
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6809
that is the content of it:
- open LyX 2.0svn
- open a file that you previously created with LyX 2.0svn
- export it to format LyX 1.6.x

Result: no converted file is output.

It only works correctly when you made a change to the opened file.


 in other words have you tried to change the file?
 pavel
I understood the last sentence as
loading my file, change it (eg add a word), 
export it as lyx 1.6.x file

however, Pavel (and the author of the ticket) ment to change the name of the 
file (?).

Now I understand. There is indeed a .lyx16 file, but this does not show up if 
I try to load it into the lyx 16 version.
I have to rename it to 'a-name.lyx'
Loading this solves the issue.

I thought lyx 1.6.x understands .lyx16 and loads that one.

Sorry for the noise.

There is still the question why I get this error if I try to load the .tex 
file:
An error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f 'EG-Q16x.tex' 'EG-Q16x.lyx'

and this one if I try to load the exported .html file:
An error occurred whilst running java -jar htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html'
-out


Wolfgang

Re: lyx2lyx

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 however, Pavel (and the author of the ticket) ment to change the name of the 
 file (?).

no i didnt meant this, but by chance you solved your problem anyway...
your problem is actually bug 3934 :)

pavel

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 08:55 AM, Ipacs Péter wrote:

Hi Guys,

Forgive me if my question is newbie but I'm indeed a newbie both to 
latex and to Lyx as well.I was trying to use some supported way to 
highlight abbreviations in a Lyx document but I found no good way so 
far. I also did the standard drill of looking through forums etc. 
without any luck.


What I'm trying to achieve is something similar to the behavior of the 
abbr tag in HTML; a way to semantically tell that a given piece of 
text is an abbreviation and the ability to apply a common style to all 
the different abbreviations.


The nomenclature package looks promising but - as far as I understand 
- it lacks this feature.


It would be also nice to have a capability in Lyx 
that automatically converts pieces of texts into abbreviations based 
on the list of nomenclatures entered previously.


Let me give you a quick example. I enter a nomenclature entry like: 
 HTML = Hyper Text Markup Language, for example. Later in the 
document when I write HTML Lyx would automatically recognize the 
text as a known abbreviation and in the rendered document all 
the occurrences of the string HTML would have been styled as italics 
- maybe as hyperlinks to the nomenclature list.


What do you think? Is it possible to have something similar off the shelf?

Yes, the styling part is relatively easy. One way: DocumentSettings, 
then go to the Modules pane. Load the logicalmkup module. This will 
give you access, in particular, to the Noun character style, under 
EditText Settings. This one may not do what you want, but, if not, then 
it will be relatively easy to produce an alternative if you (a) look at 
the logicalmkup.module file, which will be in LyX's layout/ directory, 
and (b) read some of ch. 5 of the Customization manual.


To make them all links would take a little more work. I'm no expert on 
nomenclature, so don't know exactly how to do it. But start with the 
styling part.


Richard

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 11:16 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:

My impression is that LyX 2.0 will have a macro capability.



Beyond the math macro stuff we already have, no, unfortunately.

Richard

Re: query

[Joost Verburg]

On 9/20/2010 4:00 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:

I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
please help me to download


Try an alternative download location such as:
ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.7/

Joost

Re: Lines is array

[Enrico Forestieri]

Julio Rojas writes:
 The question is, how can I add the double slash in math environment?
 Everytime I try to do it, a regular slash is rendered.

LyX is able to handle that case but there is currently no way to enter
the extra vertical space specification \\[0.3em] through the GUI.

Simply write as latex the array outside mathed (with the \\[0.3em])
then select it and press Control-M. After that, you can copypaste
the array inside mathed and the \\[0.3em] will be retained.

If you need to change the spacing, copy the array in mathed (only the
array and not the math hull) and paste it outside of mathed, then change
the spacing and apply again the above procedure. A little cumbersome but
it works.

-- 
Enrico

Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
 On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
  I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now under
  lyx1.6.7.
  I used
  fileexportlyx1.6.x
  but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
  it is from a different version of lyx.
  lyx2lyx failed.

 Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a bug.

 rh

Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported that 
one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.

As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a .tex 
file, but I am told
an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...

As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
which worked well (except the size of some images was not well translated).
But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
an error occurred whilst running java -jar 
htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out

It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
reminds me of the mantra...

Wolfgang

query

[Nitin Bansal]

Dear Sir/Madam

I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
please help me to download


Thanks  Regards
NITIN BANSAL
Asstt. Professor
Department of Electronics  Instrumentation
Hindustan College Of Science  Technology, Farah ,Mathura
09897433286

Re: query

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

2010/9/19 Nitin Bansal nitin@gmail.com:
 Dear Sir/Madam

 I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
 download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
 as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
 please help me to download


Try http://www.lyx.org/Download instead (or just follow the link from
http://www.lyx.org )


hope this helps,
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: lyx2lyx

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
  On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
   How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
   I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now under
   lyx1.6.7.
   I used
   fileexportlyx1.6.x
   but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
   it is from a different version of lyx.
   lyx2lyx failed.
 
  Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a bug.
 
  rh
 
 Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported that 
 one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.
 
 As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a .tex 
 file, but I am told
 an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...
 
 As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
 elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
 which worked well (except the size of some images was not well translated).
 But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
 an error occurred whilst running java -jar 
 htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out
 
 It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
 reminds me of the mantra...
 
 Wolfgang
 

You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ .lyx but e.g. 
.lyx16 ?

Kornel


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Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Monday 20 September 2010 09:53:14 schrieb Kornel Benko:
 Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
  Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
   On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now
under lyx1.6.7.
I used
fileexportlyx1.6.x
but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
it is from a different version of lyx.
lyx2lyx failed.
  
   Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a
   bug.
  
   rh
 
  Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported
  that one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.
 
  As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a
  .tex file, but I am told
  an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...
 
  As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
  elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
  which worked well (except the size of some images was not well
  translated). But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
  an error occurred whilst running java -jar
  htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out
 
  It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
  reminds me of the mantra...
 
  Wolfgang

 You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ .lyx but
 e.g. .lyx16 ?

which means, lyx2.0.0svn is not exporting the lyx file for 1.6.x, since there 
is no .lyx16 

could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something 
which is missing in my case? Can I run this script (name?) separately and 
how? Has anybody successfully exported a .lyx16 file from 2.0.0?

Thanks, Kornel

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2lyx

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 04:46 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Monday 20 September 2010 09:53:14 schrieb Kornel Benko:
   

Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 

Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
   

On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 

How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now
under lyx1.6.7.
I used
fileexportlyx1.6.x
but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
it is from a different version of lyx.
lyx2lyx failed.
   

Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a
bug.

rh
 

Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported
that one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.

As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a
.tex file, but I am told
an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...

As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
which worked well (except the size of some images was not well
translated). But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
an error occurred whilst running java -jar
htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out

It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
reminds me of the mantra...

Wolfgang
   

You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ .lyx but
e.g. .lyx16 ?
 

which means, lyx2.0.0svn is not exporting the lyx file for 1.6.x, since there
is no .lyx16

could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something
which is missing in my case? Can I run this script (name?) separately and
how? Has anybody successfully exported a .lyx16 file from 2.0.0?

   

Yes, just tested it. But of course my file was different from yours.

If you've got both 1.6 and 2.0 installed, it is possible that LyX is 
trying to use the wrong lyx2lyx for one or the other of the tasks.


Alternatively, send me the file privately, and I'll have a look.

Richard

question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Ipacs Péter]

Hi Guys,

Forgive me if my question is newbie but I'm indeed a newbie both to latex
and to Lyx as well.I was trying to use some supported way to highlight
abbreviations in a Lyx document but I found no good way so far. I also did
the standard drill of looking through forums etc. without any luck.

What I'm trying to achieve is something similar to the behavior of the
abbr tag in HTML; a way to semantically tell that a given piece of text is
an abbreviation and the ability to apply a common style to all the different
abbreviations.

The nomenclature package looks promising but - as far as I understand - it
lacks this feature.

It would be also nice to have a capability in Lyx
that automatically converts pieces of texts into abbreviations based on the
list of nomenclatures entered previously.

Let me give you a quick example. I enter a nomenclature entry like:  HTML
= Hyper Text Markup Language, for example. Later in the document when I
write HTML Lyx would automatically recognize the text as a known
abbreviation and in the rendered document all the occurrences of the string
HTML would have been styled as italics - maybe as hyperlinks to the
nomenclature list.

What do you think? Is it possible to have something similar off the shelf?

Thank you in advance!

Cheers,
Peter

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Paul Rubin]

What you have in mind with automatic substitution would be a macro.  LyX 1.6.x
does not support macros directly; you can create them in the preamble if you
know how to write LaTeX code.  My impression is that LyX 2.0 will have a macro
capability.  As an alternative hand-coding macros in LaTeX, you can bind a
custom key combination to a sequence of LyX functions (LFUNs) that inserts what
you want (so that, for instance, Ctrl-Alt-H inserts HTML along with possibly
some custom formatting).  The downside there is that (a) there's a limited
number of uncommitted key combos and (b) if you're like me, you won't remember
them.

As far as markup goes, remember that your document will probably end up being
turned into a DVI, PS or PDF file, so the final product will not contain any
markup.  I think what you want is visual cues, which leads you to custom
character styles.  Rob Oakes has a nice blog post
(http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/14/customize-lyx-character-styles)
that will get you started on that.  I think Steve Litt also documented it
somewhere, but I'm afraid I don't have a link to his book handy.  Searching 
the archive of the user list should turn it up.

/Paul

Re: lyx2lyx

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something 
 which is missing in my case?

we already have one major bug concerning lyx2lyx, maybe its your case
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6809

in other words have you tried to change the file?
pavel

Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Monday 20 September 2010 17:17:47 schrieb Pavel Sanda:
 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs
  something which is missing in my case?

 we already have one major bug concerning lyx2lyx, maybe its your case
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6809
that is the content of it:
- open LyX 2.0svn
- open a file that you previously created with LyX 2.0svn
- export it to format LyX 1.6.x

Result: no converted file is output.

It only works correctly when you made a change to the opened file.


 in other words have you tried to change the file?
 pavel
I understood the last sentence as
loading my file, change it (eg add a word), 
export it as lyx 1.6.x file

however, Pavel (and the author of the ticket) ment to change the name of the 
file (?).

Now I understand. There is indeed a .lyx16 file, but this does not show up if 
I try to load it into the lyx 16 version.
I have to rename it to 'a-name.lyx'
Loading this solves the issue.

I thought lyx 1.6.x understands .lyx16 and loads that one.

Sorry for the noise.

There is still the question why I get this error if I try to load the .tex 
file:
An error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f 'EG-Q16x.tex' 'EG-Q16x.lyx'

and this one if I try to load the exported .html file:
An error occurred whilst running java -jar htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html'
-out


Wolfgang

Re: lyx2lyx

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 however, Pavel (and the author of the ticket) ment to change the name of the 
 file (?).

no i didnt meant this, but by chance you solved your problem anyway...
your problem is actually bug 3934 :)

pavel

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 08:55 AM, Ipacs Péter wrote:

Hi Guys,

Forgive me if my question is newbie but I'm indeed a newbie both to 
latex and to Lyx as well.I was trying to use some supported way to 
highlight abbreviations in a Lyx document but I found no good way so 
far. I also did the standard drill of looking through forums etc. 
without any luck.


What I'm trying to achieve is something similar to the behavior of the 
abbr tag in HTML; a way to semantically tell that a given piece of 
text is an abbreviation and the ability to apply a common style to all 
the different abbreviations.


The nomenclature package looks promising but - as far as I understand 
- it lacks this feature.


It would be also nice to have a capability in Lyx 
that automatically converts pieces of texts into abbreviations based 
on the list of nomenclatures entered previously.


Let me give you a quick example. I enter a nomenclature entry like: 
 HTML = Hyper Text Markup Language, for example. Later in the 
document when I write HTML Lyx would automatically recognize the 
text as a known abbreviation and in the rendered document all 
the occurrences of the string HTML would have been styled as italics 
- maybe as hyperlinks to the nomenclature list.


What do you think? Is it possible to have something similar off the shelf?

Yes, the styling part is relatively easy. One way: DocumentSettings, 
then go to the Modules pane. Load the logicalmkup module. This will 
give you access, in particular, to the Noun character style, under 
EditText Settings. This one may not do what you want, but, if not, then 
it will be relatively easy to produce an alternative if you (a) look at 
the logicalmkup.module file, which will be in LyX's layout/ directory, 
and (b) read some of ch. 5 of the Customization manual.


To make them all links would take a little more work. I'm no expert on 
nomenclature, so don't know exactly how to do it. But start with the 
styling part.


Richard

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 11:16 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:

My impression is that LyX 2.0 will have a macro capability.



Beyond the math macro stuff we already have, no, unfortunately.

Richard

Re: query

[Joost Verburg]

On 9/20/2010 4:00 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:

I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
please help me to download


Try an alternative download location such as:
ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.7/

Joost

Re: Lines is array

[Enrico Forestieri]

Julio Rojas writes:
 The question is, how can I add the double slash in math environment?
 Everytime I try to do it, a regular slash is rendered.

LyX is able to handle that case but there is currently no way to enter
the extra vertical space specification \\[0.3em] through the GUI.

Simply write as latex the array outside mathed (with the \\[0.3em])
then select it and press Control-M. After that, you can copypaste
the array inside mathed and the \\[0.3em] will be retained.

If you need to change the spacing, copy the array in mathed (only the
array and not the math hull) and paste it outside of mathed, then change
the spacing and apply again the above procedure. A little cumbersome but
it works.

-- 
Enrico

Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
> On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
> > I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now under
> > lyx1.6.7.
> > I used
> > file>export>lyx1.6.x
> > but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
> > it is from a different version of lyx.
> > lyx2lyx failed.
>
> Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a bug.
>
> rh

Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported that 
one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.

As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a .tex 
file, but I am told
an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...

As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
which worked well (except the size of some images was not well translated).
But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
an error occurred whilst running java -jar 
htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out

It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
reminds me of the mantra...

Wolfgang

query

[Nitin Bansal]

Dear Sir/Madam

I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
please help me to download


Thanks & Regards
NITIN BANSAL
Asstt. Professor
Department of Electronics & Instrumentation
Hindustan College Of Science & Technology, Farah ,Mathura
09897433286

Re: query

[Kevin Brubeck Unhammer]

2010/9/19 Nitin Bansal :
> Dear Sir/Madam
>
> I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
> download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
> as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
> please help me to download
>

Try http://www.lyx.org/Download instead (or just follow the link from
http://www.lyx.org )


hope this helps,
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

Re: lyx2lyx

[Kornel Benko]

Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
> > On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > > How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
> > > I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now under
> > > lyx1.6.7.
> > > I used
> > > file>export>lyx1.6.x
> > > but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
> > > it is from a different version of lyx.
> > > lyx2lyx failed.
> >
> > Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a bug.
> >
> > rh
> 
> Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported that 
> one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.
> 
> As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a .tex 
> file, but I am told
> an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...
> 
> As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
> elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
> which worked well (except the size of some images was not well translated).
> But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
> an error occurred whilst running java -jar 
> htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out
> 
> It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
> reminds me of the mantra...
> 
> Wolfgang
> 

You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ ".lyx" but e.g. 
".lyx16" ?

Kornel


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Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Monday 20 September 2010 09:53:14 schrieb Kornel Benko:
> Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> > Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
> > > On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > > > How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
> > > > I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now
> > > > under lyx1.6.7.
> > > > I used
> > > > file>export>lyx1.6.x
> > > > but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
> > > > it is from a different version of lyx.
> > > > lyx2lyx failed.
> > >
> > > Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a
> > > bug.
> > >
> > > rh
> >
> > Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported
> > that one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.
> >
> > As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a
> > .tex file, but I am told
> > an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...
> >
> > As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
> > elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
> > which worked well (except the size of some images was not well
> > translated). But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
> > an error occurred whilst running java -jar
> > htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out
> >
> > It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
> > reminds me of the mantra...
> >
> > Wolfgang
>
> You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ ".lyx" but
> e.g. ".lyx16" ?

which means, lyx2.0.0svn is not exporting the lyx file for 1.6.x, since there 
is no .lyx16 

could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something 
which is missing in my case? Can I run this script (name?) separately and 
how? Has anybody successfully exported a .lyx16 file from 2.0.0?

Thanks, Kornel

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2lyx

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 04:46 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Am Monday 20 September 2010 09:53:14 schrieb Kornel Benko:
   

Am Montag, 20. September 2010 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 

Am Sunday 19 September 2010 23:11:01 schrieb Richard Heck:
   

On 09/19/2010 02:12 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 

How do I make the lyx/lyx export working?
I have a lyx file produced with lyx2.0 and want to work on it now
under lyx1.6.7.
I used
file>export>lyx1.6.x
but when trying to load it in lyx1.6.7 I am told,
it is from a different version of lyx.
lyx2lyx failed.
   

Are you sure you are opening the correct file? If so, then this is a
bug.

rh
 

Yes, pritty much. I saved the lyx2.0 file with another name and exported
that one as an 1.6 lyx file, which gave however the error above.

As I mentioned in a second mail I tried also to export the lyx file as a
.tex file, but I am told
an error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f ...

As another trial I used the most recent elyxer:
elyxer EG-Q.lyx EG-Q.html
which worked well (except the size of some images was not well
translated). But importing it in lyx1.6.7 gives:
an error occurred whilst running java -jar
htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html' -out

It was a bad idea of mine to try lyx 2
reminds me of the mantra...

Wolfgang
   

You surely know, that the extension of exported files is _not_ ".lyx" but
e.g. ".lyx16" ?
 

which means, lyx2.0.0svn is not exporting the lyx file for 1.6.x, since there
is no .lyx16

could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something
which is missing in my case? Can I run this script (name?) separately and
how? Has anybody successfully exported a .lyx16 file from 2.0.0?

   

Yes, just tested it. But of course my file was different from yours.

If you've got both 1.6 and 2.0 installed, it is possible that LyX is 
trying to use the wrong lyx2lyx for one or the other of the tasks.


Alternatively, send me the file privately, and I'll have a look.

Richard

question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Ipacs Péter]

Hi Guys,

Forgive me if my question is newbie but I'm indeed a newbie both to latex
and to Lyx as well.I was trying to use some supported way to highlight
abbreviations in a Lyx document but I found no good way so far. I also did
the standard drill of looking through forums etc. without any luck.

What I'm trying to achieve is something similar to the behavior of the
 tag in HTML; a way to semantically tell that a given piece of text is
an abbreviation and the ability to apply a common style to all the different
abbreviations.

The nomenclature package looks promising but - as far as I understand - it
lacks this feature.

It would be also nice to have a capability in Lyx
that automatically converts pieces of texts into abbreviations based on the
list of nomenclatures entered previously.

Let me give you a quick example. I enter a nomenclature entry like:  "HTML"
= "Hyper Text Markup Language", for example. Later in the document when I
write "HTML" Lyx would automatically recognize the text as a known
abbreviation and in the rendered document all the occurrences of the string
"HTML" would have been styled as italics - maybe as hyperlinks to the
nomenclature list.

What do you think? Is it possible to have something similar off the shelf?

Thank you in advance!

Cheers,
Peter

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Paul Rubin]

What you have in mind with automatic substitution would be a macro.  LyX 1.6.x
does not support macros directly; you can create them in the preamble if you
know how to write LaTeX code.  My impression is that LyX 2.0 will have a macro
capability.  As an alternative hand-coding macros in LaTeX, you can bind a
custom key combination to a sequence of LyX functions (LFUNs) that inserts what
you want (so that, for instance, Ctrl-Alt-H inserts "HTML" along with possibly
some custom formatting).  The downside there is that (a) there's a limited
number of uncommitted key combos and (b) if you're like me, you won't remember
them.

As far as markup goes, remember that your document will probably end up being
turned into a DVI, PS or PDF file, so the final product will not contain any
markup.  I think what you want is visual cues, which leads you to custom
character styles.  Rob Oakes has a nice blog post
(http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2009/11/14/customize-lyx-character-styles)
that will get you started on that.  I think Steve Litt also documented it
somewhere, but I'm afraid I don't have a link to his book handy.  Searching 
the archive of the user list should turn it up.

/Paul

Re: lyx2lyx

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs something 
> which is missing in my case?

we already have one major bug concerning lyx2lyx, maybe its your case
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6809

in other words have you tried to change the file?
pavel

Re: lyx2lyx

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am Monday 20 September 2010 17:17:47 schrieb Pavel Sanda:
> Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > could it be that the lyx2lyx script or whatever does the job needs
> > something which is missing in my case?
>
> we already have one major bug concerning lyx2lyx, maybe its your case
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6809
that is the content of it:
- open LyX 2.0svn
- open a file that you previously created with LyX 2.0svn
- export it to format LyX 1.6.x

Result: no converted file is output.

It only works correctly when you made a change to the opened file.

>
> in other words have you tried to change the file?
> pavel
I understood the last sentence as
loading my file, change it (eg add a word), 
export it as lyx 1.6.x file

however, Pavel (and the author of the ticket) ment to change the name of the 
file (?).

Now I understand. There is indeed a .lyx16 file, but this does not show up if 
I try to load it into the lyx 16 version.
I have to rename it to 'a-name.lyx'
Loading this solves the issue.

I thought lyx 1.6.x understands .lyx16 and loads that one.

Sorry for the noise.

There is still the question why I get this error if I try to load the .tex 
file:
An error occurred whilst running tex2lyx -f 'EG-Q16x.tex' 'EG-Q16x.lyx'

and this one if I try to load the exported .html file:
An error occurred whilst running java -jar htmltolatex.jar -input 'EG-Qn.html'
-out


Wolfgang

Re: lyx2lyx

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> however, Pavel (and the author of the ticket) ment to change the name of the 
> file (?).

no i didnt meant this, but by chance you solved your problem anyway...
your problem is actually bug 3934 :)

pavel

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 08:55 AM, Ipacs Péter wrote:

Hi Guys,

Forgive me if my question is newbie but I'm indeed a newbie both to 
latex and to Lyx as well.I was trying to use some supported way to 
highlight abbreviations in a Lyx document but I found no good way so 
far. I also did the standard drill of looking through forums etc. 
without any luck.


What I'm trying to achieve is something similar to the behavior of the 
 tag in HTML; a way to semantically tell that a given piece of 
text is an abbreviation and the ability to apply a common style to all 
the different abbreviations.


The nomenclature package looks promising but - as far as I understand 
- it lacks this feature.


It would be also nice to have a capability in Lyx 
that automatically converts pieces of texts into abbreviations based 
on the list of nomenclatures entered previously.


Let me give you a quick example. I enter a nomenclature entry like: 
 "HTML" = "Hyper Text Markup Language", for example. Later in the 
document when I write "HTML" Lyx would automatically recognize the 
text as a known abbreviation and in the rendered document all 
the occurrences of the string "HTML" would have been styled as italics 
- maybe as hyperlinks to the nomenclature list.


What do you think? Is it possible to have something similar off the shelf?

Yes, the styling part is relatively easy. One way: Document>Settings, 
then go to the Modules pane. Load the "logicalmkup" module. This will 
give you access, in particular, to the Noun character style, under 
Edit>Text Settings. This one may not do what you want, but, if not, then 
it will be relatively easy to produce an alternative if you (a) look at 
the logicalmkup.module file, which will be in LyX's layout/ directory, 
and (b) read some of ch. 5 of the Customization manual.


To make them all links would take a little more work. I'm no expert on 
nomenclature, so don't know exactly how to do it. But start with the 
styling part.


Richard

Re: question about styling/highlighting abbreaviations

[Richard Heck]

On 09/20/2010 11:16 AM, Paul Rubin wrote:

My impression is that LyX 2.0 will have a macro capability.



Beyond the math macro stuff we already have, no, unfortunately.

Richard

Re: query

[Joost Verburg]

On 9/20/2010 4:00 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote:

I am not able to download any version of the lyx. please guide me to
download it. i have already opened the site www.lyx.org/download but
as soon as i click on the link it is not working.
please help me to download


Try an alternative download location such as:
ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.7/

Joost

Re: Lines is array

[Enrico Forestieri]

Julio Rojas writes:
> The question is, how can I add the double slash in math environment?
> Everytime I try to do it, a regular slash is rendered.

LyX is able to handle that case but there is currently no way to enter
the extra vertical space specification \\[0.3em] through the GUI.

Simply write as latex the array outside mathed (with the \\[0.3em])
then select it and press Control-M. After that, you can copy
the array inside mathed and the \\[0.3em] will be retained.

If you need to change the spacing, copy the array in mathed (only the
array and not the math hull) and paste it outside of mathed, then change
the spacing and apply again the above procedure. A little cumbersome but
it works.

-- 
Enrico