Re: Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

2013-06-10 Thread Liviu Andronic
Hello,


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Jayneil Dalal  wrote:
> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
> alternative-latex
>
When introducing LyX to people I myself prefer launching a full-blown
"your first document in LyX" session, based on LyX_Essentials.pdf (
https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex ). So I just
start showing off how easy it is to create a good looking document in
LyX, and at the same time explain the differences between LyX and MS
Word. This is more useful for a workshop than a presentation, but
gives the audience a very clear idea of it actually is.


> I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/
>
> It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
> installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.
>
This is a very good initiative. I remember once having big issues
finding a LiveCD with LyX. Several points:
- Wouldn't it be better to use a versioning scheme in the name of the
file ? lyx-12.04.2.iso or similar would be more useful.
- Is the LiveCD using the PPA (
https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/release )? Could it be
configured to use that?
- And could/should the LiveCD also come pre-configured for the daily
PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/daily )?

Regards,
Liviu


Lyx at Linuxfest Northwest 2013

2013-06-10 Thread Jayneil Dalal
Hi,

Sorry for posting so late about this. I gave a talk on Lyx at Linuxfest 
Northwest 2013:


http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/content/crash-course-lyx-gui-based-
alternative-latex

I have also started a project on sourceforge called Lyx Live DVD:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxlivedvd/

It is basically Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with Lyx, texlive-full package pre-
installed and configured. So, you can have Lyx wherever you go.

You can download the ISO from above link and run it using Virtual Box. Then 
you could either install the whole thing or just run it in live mode.

In the live you can directly start using Lyx even without installing 
anything. Just login in using the details below:

For live mode:
User: Lyx
Password:Lyx

I hope that helps. Once again, thanks and kudos to the entire lyx team for 
making such a great software!

Best,

Jayneil.
(http://elinux.org/Jayneil_Dalal)



Re: Place float:figure in this subparagraph

2013-06-10 Thread Andrew Parsloe



On 10/06/2013 10:35 p.m., Philipp Gröne wrote:

Hi!

Thanks for your answer!
I've tried every setting on the subtext menu you write about, to no avail.

"Here definitely" leads to a behavior of my graphics that is very depend
of linebreaks above it, nearly WYSIWYG-like.

What I really want is a method to make a graphic bound to a certain
paragraph, favorably with some lines of text above it.
Is this possible? If yes, which manual should I start to read?

Unfortunately I've no experience with LaTeX-code, and it seems a bit
overwhelming with no outside help.

Greetings and thanks in advance!
Ph.

Am 07.06.2013, 20:06 Uhr, schrieb Paul Rubin :


Are you inserting them with Insert > Float > Figure? If so, right
click the
"handle" labeled "Float: Figure", choose Settings..., and deselect "Use
default placement" and try "Here definitely" instead.

Paul



Have you tried a figure wrap float (Insert > Float > Figure Wrap Float)? 
This allows text to flow around a figure (provided the figure is not too 
big) and is generally attached to a paragraph (although it can float if 
"stressed").


Andrew


Lyx2doc: was Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

2013-06-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:02:15 -0500
stefano franchi  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Les Denham 
> wrote:

> > I use LyX rather than Word (or its clones) because it allows me to
> > produce a presentable document in about half the time it takes with
> > Word. This is emphatically the case if it is a document requiring a
> > detailed table of contents, an index, or a bibliography, or if it
> > contains figures, cross-references or footnotes.
> >
> >
> I guess that's the very reason why we all use LyX. I certainly
> wouldn't be as productive in Word. But those of us working in the
> Humanities (at least some Humanities) then have to budget some time
> to convert the output to Word. Nothing else is accepted. I tend to
> think best-sellers authors' position is closer to us than to a
> physicist's, a mathematician's or a logician's. That's why a minimal
> and yet reliable LyX-to-Doc converter---a topic we've repeatedly
> discussed on the list---would make such a difference to the
> non-technical user, IMHO.

Stephano, you bring up an important point...

Ten years ago, I used LyX only because it was a front end to LaTeX. Now
I use it because it's an ultra-fast, styles-enforcing wordprocessor.
I've used it to make Kindle eBook (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006QTBLA2),
which has absolutely nothing to do with LaTeX. Now I'm making a
converter to make it do simple HTML like you'd find on a web page,
rather than as input to an eBook. One thing perhaps I haven't
appreciated til now is what a good, fast and efficient wordprocessor
LyX is. It knows when you press space twice it was a mistake and only
prints one space. It knows when you press Enter twice that it's a
mistake and prints only one. It makes fingerprinting difficult, which
is just what I want. And I've never had LyX lose my work.

These days, it could be used as a front end to anything with the proper
styles defined, and the proper converter. So the same LyX file could be
used to output LaTeX, MSWord doc, XHTML, HTML, simple HTML, or who
knows what else.

To more easily accommodate this, it seems to me like layout files
should be split into an input side and an output side, with the output
side capable of multiple output formats. So the input side might look
something like this:



CharStyle MyEmph
Font
Shape Italic
EndFont

if outputtype == latex
   outputName   latexlayout.layout/myemphL
   outputType   Command
elsif outputtype == simplehtml
   outputName   simphtmllayout.layout/myemphH
   outputType   InlineTag
else outputtype == msword
   outputName   winwordlayout.layout/myemphW
   outputType   CharacterStyle
End

Environments would be similar.

Ideally it would be designed so that it doesn't syntax check inside the
output type's it's not. That way you can develop one output type at a
time without getting errors from the ones you haven't developed yet.

It seems to me that something like this would be a logical way of
turning LyX into a universal front end while changing very little of
LyX's core code.

I'm not a good enough programmer to do this in C++, so feel free to view
this suggestion with some healthy skepticism.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


Re: Simple HTML converter/export

2013-06-10 Thread Richard Heck

On 06/09/2013 05:22 PM, Bob Alvarez wrote:


"This will NOT be YAHC (Yet Another HTML Converter). It will be a
small subset of LyX's capabilities, purposed not to turn a
document into HTML, but to turn LyX into a quick to use HTML
authoring tool for HTML web pages. It will in no way try to
replace the existing HTML Converters, and from what I've seen so
far, the existing HTML converters would have a hard time replacing
what I'm trying to make."


Let me state my interest in this topic to see if it overlaps with 
yours. I agree that HTML exporters like Alex Fernandez' eLyXer do a 
great job of producing web pages that look like pdf documents. What I 
would want is to be able to add some capabilities to the HTML that 
would not be possible in a static format like pdf. But at the same 
time, I want to use Lyx's capabilities for formatting the document and 
math typesetting.


As an example, I use Lyx to create web pages with a lot of math. Like 
most math, it is structured with general statements like theorems with 
proofs. Many times, the proof gets in the way of the narrative 
although it is important for it to be there if the reader wants to see 
it. I saw a website where they added a + sign gadget that if you click 
it once displays the proof and then clicking it again hides it.


This is relatively easy to do using the javascript openClose function
http://javascriptsource.com/miscellaneous/collapsible-text.html

Alex suggested a way to do this that, if I understand it correctly, 
requires editing the HTML output. I would be interested in extensions 
to Lyx that would allow me to add features like these but at the same 
time be able to export standard pdf documents.


The from LyX's own XHTML exporter is substantially customizable through 
layout files. I'd be surprised if this sort of thing could be not be 
done fairly simply. At worst, you'd have to define some new sort of 
inset in which you could wrap whatever you wanted to be opened and closed.


Richard



Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

2013-06-10 Thread stefano franchi
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Les Denham  wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 10:32:20 -0500
> stefano franchi  wrote:
>
> > I'm willing to bet you won't find such an example. The reason is
> > simple: more or less by definition a best-seller is book produced by
> > a major commercial publishing house supported by a consistent
> > marketing effort, heavily edited by a professional editor and laid
> > out by a (team of ) typesetters according to a carefully designed
> > house-specific graphic design project.
>
> While that is the traditional definition of a best seller, it is
> becoming less and less relevant.
>

You may be right. As I said, I'm a pessimist. Yet, I've still to meet the
production editor of a major publishing house who would accept a manuscript
in LyX or Latex formats. Whereas I've met editors willing to accept a
*paper* manuscript and have it retyped in Word.


> I use LyX rather than Word (or its clones) because it allows me to
> produce a presentable document in about half the time it takes with
> Word. This is emphatically the case if it is a document requiring a
> detailed table of contents, an index, or a bibliography, or if it
> contains figures, cross-references or footnotes.
>
>
I guess that's the very reason why we all use LyX. I certainly wouldn't be
as productive in Word. But those of us working in the Humanities (at least
some Humanities) then have to budget some time to convert the output to
Word. Nothing else is accepted. I tend to think best-sellers authors'
position is closer to us than to a physicist's, a mathematician's or a
logician's. That's why a minimal and yet reliable LyX-to-Doc converter---a
topic we've repeatedly discussed on the list---would make such a difference
to the non-technical user, IMHO.



Cheers,

S.







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__
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Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A&M University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

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Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

2013-06-10 Thread Les Denham
On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 10:32:20 -0500
stefano franchi  wrote:

> I'm willing to bet you won't find such an example. The reason is
> simple: more or less by definition a best-seller is book produced by
> a major commercial publishing house supported by a consistent
> marketing effort, heavily edited by a professional editor and laid
> out by a (team of ) typesetters according to a carefully designed
> house-specific graphic design project.

While that is the traditional definition of a best seller, it is
becoming less and less relevant.

I use LyX rather than Word (or its clones) because it allows me to
produce a presentable document in about half the time it takes with
Word. This is emphatically the case if it is a document requiring a
detailed table of contents, an index, or a bibliography, or if it
contains figures, cross-references or footnotes.

A further advantage of LyX that I have only come to appreciate in the
last year or two is that even without a specific converter LyX makes
the production of an ebook in EPUB format far easier than using a
conventional word processor. Preparing a document in Word for the
conversion is so "simple" that Smashwords has produced a 24,000 word
book on how to do it: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52

Les


Re: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX

2013-06-10 Thread John Kane

 
What kind of  books does he write?  If
it's pure text then he probably does not need the power of LyX but on
the other hand if he's doing something complicated like writing
technical books then you can laugh  if he's doing it in Word.  And
come to think of it. if it's pure prose then he does not need WYSIWYG
anyway.

I would not expect many mainstream
writers of novels and  gardening books to use LyX just as they
probably don't use LaTeX.  They would be unlikely to have had any
acquaintance with the tools of technical writing and so not even know
they exist. When the most complicated layout you ever need is an MLA
template for first year English you don't usually turn to LaTeX or
LyX. Their instructors won't know about it and so they cannot suggest
it. 

Even if LyX were the best tool for the
job authors can get by with what they know and may not even realise
there is a better way or just don't see a reason to put themselves
out for what they may perceive as small gains.  After you have seen
intelligent people write CVs in Lotus123 and Excel you can expect
anything.

Your best-seller author probably is
arguing from a  position of absolute and invincible ignorance.  He's
probably right but for the wrong reasons.

You might want to look at  the best
non-fiction sellers at Amazon's best-sellers' list. The first one is
The Algebra Survival Guide Workbook by Josh Rappaport  It might be a
LyX or LaTeX book. Hopefully it was not done in Word.

It's hard to know what tools authors
use to write books, most dust-jackets don't mention it. A bit of
googling seems to suggest that Neil Gaiman and J.K. Rowling use pens,
at least for a first draft. George Bernard Shaw wrote everything in
Pitman Shorthand. That is definitely not WYSIWYG. 

The same thing applies for
bibliographic management.  A student at the local college told me
that she had asked her instructors (Nursing) about software for
managing references. Their answer was they knew such things existed
but had no idea of how  to find or use them.  I talked her into  
using Zotero (with Word, sob) and she's saving an hour or so per
paper in the handling of citations and reference lists.  Maybe next
year for LyX and APA6.



 From: Steve Litt 
To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org"  
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 10:36:15 AM
Subject: Anyone know of a best-seller written in LyX
 

Hi all,

On one of my writers' mailing list, after I said I used LyX, a guy who
really does have what once was a best-seller wrote this:

===
"As for Lyx, you need to know that, with very few exceptions  none of
which immediately come to mind  open source programs have great appeal
for people who want to tinker with computers but almost none for those
who actually want to do something. Such apps tend to have butt ugly
interfaces and stupid names like Lyx and Snort and Gimp and Phlegm.
Last I saw, Lyx wasn't even WYSIWYG, for crying out loud. Forewarned is
forewarned. Or something like that."
===

I already wrote back mocking his position and pointing out that if Open
Source got his undies that tight in a bundle, maybe there's something
interesting there, maybe everyone should try LyX, after all, it's free,
and gave the www.lyx.org URL.

But I can tell you this guy is going to come back and say he's a great
and mighty best selling author, ask how many books have I sold. While
books provide a part of my income, I have no best sellers, either now
or in the past.

So, when he comes back and asks that, it would be *wonderful* to give
the writer's list one or more best seller books (I think something with
an Amazon rank of less than 5000 would do it), to refute his statement,
by counterexample.

I'll say one more thing. A lot of writers seem to be proud of their
technophobia, and say mean and stupid stuff about LyX and other Open
Source. On their behalf, please allow *this* writer to apologize.

And as always, keep up the good work producing a great book writing
software (and perhaps now a web authoring software).

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt                *  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: a0poster layouts and examples

2013-06-10 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
I have it working with

\usetheme{Madrid}
\usecolortheme{freewilly}

in the preamble without issues.

el

on 2013-05-31 13:51 Liviu Andronic said the following:
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
>>> Could you post some example file for beamerposter?
>>
>> See attached. More serious (LaTeX) examples are here:
>> http://www-i6.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~dreuw/latexbeamerposter.php
>>
> Thanks, Jürgen. Do you have an idea why beamerposter seemingly works
> only with Berlin theme? I tried Warsaw and Darmstadt and others to no
> avail.
> 
> Liviu
> 
> 
> 




Re: Place float:figure in this subparagraph

2013-06-10 Thread Philipp Gröne

Hi!

Thanks for your answer!
I've tried every setting on the subtext menu you write about, to no avail.

"Here definitely" leads to a behavior of my graphics that is very depend  
of linebreaks above it, nearly WYSIWYG-like.


What I really want is a method to make a graphic bound to a certain  
paragraph, favorably with some lines of text above it.

Is this possible? If yes, which manual should I start to read?

Unfortunately I've no experience with LaTeX-code, and it seems a bit  
overwhelming with no outside help.


Greetings and thanks in advance!
Ph.

Am 07.06.2013, 20:06 Uhr, schrieb Paul Rubin :

Are you inserting them with Insert > Float > Figure? If so, right click  
the

"handle" labeled "Float: Figure", choose Settings..., and deselect "Use
default placement" and try "Here definitely" instead.

Paul