Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 16:02 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly
Heck:
> For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading:

The reason is to indicate on the output. That's intentional. For the
same reason, we remove the chapter labels in KOMA layouts.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck 

On 4/12/24 12:42, Herbert Voss wrote:

Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:
Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, 
not in the LyX editor itself!


For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX 
editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if 
the same happened when using KOMA-script.


It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the 
scrartcl class

or creating an own layout file.


For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading:

Input stdstruct.inc

Style Abstract
    LabelType No_Label
End

If we're agreed that's wrong, it's easy enough to fix.

Riki


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Herbert Voss 



Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:

Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, not in the 
LyX editor itself!

For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX editor by 
default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the same happened when using 
KOMA-script.



It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the 
scrartcl class

or creating an own layout file.

Herbert




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On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:

Thanks.
  
I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough

prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.

Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does not 
change how the document looks in lyx.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Rich Shepard 

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, José Matos wrote:


So the question is if the label should be there for consistency. I am
inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-)


On 2.3.7.1 The word "Abstract" appears on the LyX screen when the document
is scrreport (KOMA-Script Report) and on the PDF (pdflatex) but only in the
body text font and left-aligned. It used to be in a section font and
centered.

HTH,

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 12:27 + schrieb Bernt Lie:
> As far as I know, KOMA is independent of LyX. So I don't understand
> why inserting the label "Abstract" in the LyX *editor* can be seen as
> overriding KOMA's default settings. 

Well, it indicates what people can expect in the output (at least by
default)

> At least not if the user inserts the command "abstract=on" in the
> settings.

That's not possible.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Bernt Lie via lyx-users 
As far as I know, KOMA is independent of LyX. So I don't understand why 
inserting the label "Abstract" in the LyX *editor* can be seen as overriding 
KOMA's default settings. 

At least not if the user inserts the command "abstract=on" in the settings.


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Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 11:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-
users:
> For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX 
> editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the 
> same happened when using KOMA-script.

No, we don't want to override KOMA's default settings, which are well 
rationalized in the manual.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 11:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-
users:
> For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX
> editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if
> the same happened when using KOMA-script.

No, we don't want to override KOMA's default settings, which are well
rationalized in the manual.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 09:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-
users:
> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous
> versions, I think??

No, it has been the case for KOMA since a long time (always?)

> Is this a bug?

No. See KOMA script manual, sec. 3.8 and the abstract={on,off} KOMA
script option.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Bernt Lie via lyx-users 
Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, not in the 
LyX editor itself!

For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX editor by 
default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the same happened when 
using KOMA-script.

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On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
>  
> I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough 
> prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.

Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does not 
change how the document looks in lyx.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread José Matos 
On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
>  
> I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough
> prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.

Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does
not change how the document looks in lyx.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Herbert Voss 



Am 12.04.24 um 11:57 schrieb Bernt Lie:


Thanks.

I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough 
prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.




no problem here ... Used File->new, then Document->Settings abd abstract=on.
I have nothing in the added into the preamble.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Bernt Lie via lyx-users 
OK -- in 2.3.7, I did not use KOMA script article, but standard LaTeX article. 
And there the label shows up in my installation. 

The "problem" to me is that it is not just that the "label" is missing in the 
LyX editor, but the word "Abstract" does not show up in the pdf file either. 

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Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:41 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the 
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous 
> versions, I think??
> 
> Is this a bug?

I tested in 2.3.x and it does not show there as well.
So at least the change is not specific to lyx 2.4.

If you change to the standard class then the label is there both for
2.3 and 2.4.

So the question is if the label should be there for consistency.
I am inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-)

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Bernt Lie via lyx-users 
Thanks.



I have tried with inserting the text "abstract=on" (with and withough 
prepending/appending it with "), but this has no effect.

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Am 12.04.24 um 11:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:

> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the 
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous 
> versions, I think??

>

> Is this a bug?



Use documentclass option "abstract=on"



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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread José Matos 
On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:41 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous
> versions, I think??
> 
> Is this a bug?

I tested in 2.3.x and it does not show there as well.
So at least the change is not specific to lyx 2.4.

If you change to the standard class then the label is there both for
2.3 and 2.4.

So the question is if the label should be there for consistency.
I am inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-)

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Re: Lyx error

2024-04-12 Thread Herbert Voss 



Am 12.04.24 um 11:32 schrieb Eckhard Höffner:

Tobias is right.xelatex useS  truetype or open type fonts.


XeLaTeX can also use old Type1 fonts.

Herbert




Am 12.04.24 um 10:10 AM schrieb Tobias Hilbricht:

Am Donnerstag, dem 11.04.2024 um 18:19 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt:

If you use non-TeX fonts, you must compile with luatex and lualatex
instead of xelatex. Check your LyX preferences for compiling.


Here I can compile the OPs LyX-file mb.lyx using non-TeX fonts with
xelatex (converter LaTeX -> XeTeX: xelatex $$i), so perhaps xelatex is
not installed?

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Herbert Voss 




Am 12.04.24 um 11:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:

When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the headline 
"Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous versions, I think??

Is this a bug?


Use documentclass option "abstract=on"

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LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

2024-04-12 Thread Bernt Lie via lyx-users 
When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the headline 
"Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous versions, I think??

Is this a bug?
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Re: Lyx error

2024-04-12 Thread Eckhard Höffner 

Tobias is right.xelatex useS  truetype or open type fonts.

Am 12.04.24 um 10:10 AM schrieb Tobias Hilbricht:

Am Donnerstag, dem 11.04.2024 um 18:19 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt:

If you use non-TeX fonts, you must compile with luatex and lualatex
instead of xelatex. Check your LyX preferences for compiling.


Here I can compile the OPs LyX-file mb.lyx using non-TeX fonts with
xelatex (converter LaTeX -> XeTeX: xelatex $$i), so perhaps xelatex is
not installed?

Tobias


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Re: Lyx error

2024-04-12 Thread Tobias Hilbricht 
Am Donnerstag, dem 11.04.2024 um 18:19 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt:
> 
> If you use non-TeX fonts, you must compile with luatex and lualatex
> instead of xelatex. Check your LyX preferences for compiling.
> 

Here I can compile the OPs LyX-file mb.lyx using non-TeX fonts with
xelatex (converter LaTeX -> XeTeX: xelatex $$i), so perhaps xelatex is
not installed?

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