Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe

OK. If I can remember, I have installed Lyx 1.6.0 standard installer 
several months ago. But finally, I turn to use alternative installer. 
So, I'm not sure there are some residue setting in the windows 
registry or in some system folders.


Now, what I can do is:

1, Uninstall Lyx 1.6.3 completely

2, I will try to delete all the residue in my system folders.

3, install Lyx 1.6.2 alternative version

4, install update installer

I will give the report then.

Thanks for your reply!








Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Hi, Uwe.

I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps, and as you said, 
the path can be updated correctly. I apologize that you have tested 
for me, that takes you time. I appreciate your help very much!


But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.
2, default tex encoding.

You can see the whole steps and the screen shot in:

http://sites.google.com/site/studylyx/lyxinstallerror

I do suggest the developers of Lyx can consider them.

Thanks very much!

regards.

Asmwarrior


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in Lyx preference - paths, it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe

OK. If I can remember, I have installed Lyx 1.6.0 standard installer 
several months ago. But finally, I turn to use alternative installer. 
So, I'm not sure there are some residue setting in the windows 
registry or in some system folders.


Now, what I can do is:

1, Uninstall Lyx 1.6.3 completely

2, I will try to delete all the residue in my system folders.

3, install Lyx 1.6.2 alternative version

4, install update installer

I will give the report then.

Thanks for your reply!








Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Hi, Uwe.

I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps, and as you said, 
the path can be updated correctly. I apologize that you have tested 
for me, that takes you time. I appreciate your help very much!


But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.
2, default tex encoding.

You can see the whole steps and the screen shot in:

http://sites.google.com/site/studylyx/lyxinstallerror

I do suggest the developers of Lyx can consider them.

Thanks very much!

regards.

Asmwarrior


Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


Hi, I use the alternative package
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.6.3/LyX-163-4-19-AltInstaller-Update.exe
to update my 1.6.2 version.

After updating, I found that in "Lyx preference -> paths", it is still

D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\bin;d:\Program Files\MiKTeX 
2.7\miktex\bin;D:\Program Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\ImageMagick;D:\Program 
Files\LyX 1.6.2\etc\Metafile2eps


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe

OK. If I can remember, I have installed Lyx 1.6.0 standard installer 
several months ago. But finally, I turn to use alternative installer. 
So, I'm not sure there are some "residue setting" in the windows 
registry or in some system folders.


Now, what I can do is:

1, Uninstall Lyx 1.6.3 completely

2, I will try to "delete" all the "residue" in my system folders.

3, install Lyx 1.6.2 alternative version

4, install update installer

I will give the report then.

Thanks for your reply!








Re: update issue from 1.6.2 to 1.6.3 using alternative update package

2009-06-09 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:


I tested the update installer now again on 3 different machines and 
cannot reproduce the problem. I guess what you see can only occur when 
you once have installed LyX using the standard installer and then used 
the update installer.

So to avoid further problems, can you please try to:
- uninstall LyX 1.6 _completely_
- reinstall LyX 1.6.2 using the small or complete version of my 
alternative installer

- use the update installer for LyX 1.6.3

Does it then work?

thanks in advance and regards
Uwe


Hi, Uwe.

I took hours to do the whole fresh installation steps, and as you said, 
the "path" can be updated correctly. I apologize that you have tested 
for me, that takes you time. I appreciate your help very much!


But I still have some installation problems. I have take many screen 
shot images, so I think it is better to create a web page.


There are two major problems.
1, configure problem when installation.
2, default tex encoding.

You can see the whole steps and the screen shot in:

http://sites.google.com/site/studylyx/lyxinstallerror

I do suggest the developers of Lyx can consider them.

Thanks very much!

regards.

Asmwarrior


Re: pdf font quality improvement after miktex update

2009-06-03 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


My question is:

Since the outline Type 1 font is better than Type 3, why Lyx till use 
Type 3 by default?


LyX is not to blame, LyX uses LaTeX, so what you get depends on the 
LaTeX-distribution. As you could see your settings are different than 
the default. But in your case the result is better than the default. 
When you want another font than LaTeX's default Computer Modern 
fonts, see

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF#badFonts
and of course the LyX docs ;-)

regards Uwe


Thanks Uwe for your patience to help me.

Yes, my situation is better than the default. That's maybe my Miktex 
were use cm package and Type 1 as the default font.


Also, I can define these in:

Lyx:reference - Output - Latex - tex encoding: OT1  (I can change 
from default to OT1)


I will investigate the wiki page now.

regards

Asmwarrior


Re: pdf font quality improvement after miktex update

2009-06-03 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


My question is:

Since the outline Type 1 font is better than Type 3, why Lyx till use 
Type 3 by default?


LyX is not to blame, LyX uses LaTeX, so what you get depends on the 
LaTeX-distribution. As you could see your settings are different than 
the default. But in your case the result is better than the default. 
When you want another font than LaTeX's default Computer Modern 
fonts, see

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF#badFonts
and of course the LyX docs ;-)

regards Uwe


Thanks Uwe for your patience to help me.

Yes, my situation is better than the default. That's maybe my Miktex 
were use cm package and Type 1 as the default font.


Also, I can define these in:

Lyx:reference - Output - Latex - tex encoding: OT1  (I can change 
from default to OT1)


I will investigate the wiki page now.

regards

Asmwarrior


Re: pdf font quality improvement after miktex update

2009-06-03 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

asm23 schrieb:


My question is:

Since the outline Type 1 font is better than Type 3, why Lyx till use 
Type 3 by default?


LyX is not to blame, LyX uses LaTeX, so what you get depends on the 
LaTeX-distribution. As you could see your settings are different than 
the default. But in your case the result is better than the default. 
When you want another font than LaTeX's default "Computer Modern" 
fonts, see

http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/PDF#badFonts
and of course the LyX docs ;-)

regards Uwe


Thanks Uwe for your patience to help me.

Yes, my situation is better than the default. That's maybe my Miktex 
were use "cm" package and Type 1 as the default font.


Also, I can define these in:

Lyx:reference -> Output -> Latex -> tex encoding: OT1  (I can change 
from "default" to OT1")


I will investigate the wiki page now.

regards

Asmwarrior


Re: [correction] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.6.0

2008-11-30 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 I'm totally annoying of installing the Lyx 1.6.
 My system is Windows xp, I have Miktex 2.7 be installed already.

 I have tried
 LyX-1.6.0-1-Installer.exe
 or
 LyX-160-4-15-AltInstaller-Small.exe
 But none of them can be properly installed.

 Here is my problem:

 Every time during the last period of installing, it will connect to 
the internet and downloading
 something Lyx seems missing.(I think the python will do this, and 
download it behind the screen).


 But it takes *several hours*!!! I can't wait it for too long, So, I 
just disconnect my networks,

 then, the installation finished.

This was a bad choice. When LyX is installed, its configure script 
checks the existing LaTeX system. So it asks latex.exe if several 
LaTeX-packages are available. latex.exe then automatically downloads 
the missing packages asked by LyX. Depending on your Internet 
connection, this can indeed take hours (usually it takes 10 minutes 
with a DSL connection).
When you abort this process, you kill the configuration script of LyX 
and still have an incomplete LaTeX installation and therefore get 
problems.


So you have to with the time until the downloading and installation is 
done. The Alternative installer therefore displays the current 
download and installation state in a console Window.


To speed up the installation a bit I suggest to uninstall MiKTeX 
_completely_ and reinstall it using the basic MiKTeX installation you 
can download from here:

http://miktex.org/2.7/setup
(Then you have the latest version that fixed some nasty bugs. 
Otherwise the lyX installer would do the update for you, but this 
takes longer than reinstalling MiKTeX.)

Then reinstall LyX and wait the needed time. This is all you can do.

regards Uwe


HI, Uwe, Thank you for your reply, and Thank you for your suggestion.

I have found the problem, and find a way to work around it.

Actually, I first installed the latest version of basic MikTex 2.7 . 
During setup, I choose the update option in MikTex's Setting dialog 
Install missing pages, of --- Ask me first.


But when I install the Lyx (both the standard version or the alternative 
installer), the installer will *automatically* change this option to 
Yes. (it seems very strange) So the installation takes a long time if 
I have a low speed of network or even pending when I have No internet 
connection.


So, the trick is : (If you have no network or low speed of networks)

1,kill the last step configuration of installation of Lyx.
2,Setting the MikTex update option  *back* to Ask me first.
3,start Lyx to let it initialize configuration , and When some message 
box prompt to ask whether downloading missing packages. I always choose 
cancel.

4,After step 3, the Lyx can work now.

By the way, Even I make a full installation of basic MikTex 2.7, there 
are still several missing packages required by Lyx. Maybe, They can be 
downloaded when I have a network or a higher speed connection(using the 
reconfigure menu). But without these required packages, the Lyx can 
works well.



I'm struggling with this installation problem for about 24 Hours, All 
what I can do is install and reinstall of different packages again 
and again :-(
So, you can think how depressed I feel. Anyway, I surely solved this 
problem at last.










Re: [correction] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.6.0

2008-11-30 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

 I'm totally annoying of installing the Lyx 1.6.
 My system is Windows xp, I have Miktex 2.7 be installed already.

 I have tried
 LyX-1.6.0-1-Installer.exe
 or
 LyX-160-4-15-AltInstaller-Small.exe
 But none of them can be properly installed.

 Here is my problem:

 Every time during the last period of installing, it will connect to 
the internet and downloading
 something Lyx seems missing.(I think the python will do this, and 
download it behind the screen).


 But it takes *several hours*!!! I can't wait it for too long, So, I 
just disconnect my networks,

 then, the installation finished.

This was a bad choice. When LyX is installed, its configure script 
checks the existing LaTeX system. So it asks latex.exe if several 
LaTeX-packages are available. latex.exe then automatically downloads 
the missing packages asked by LyX. Depending on your Internet 
connection, this can indeed take hours (usually it takes 10 minutes 
with a DSL connection).
When you abort this process, you kill the configuration script of LyX 
and still have an incomplete LaTeX installation and therefore get 
problems.


So you have to with the time until the downloading and installation is 
done. The Alternative installer therefore displays the current 
download and installation state in a console Window.


To speed up the installation a bit I suggest to uninstall MiKTeX 
_completely_ and reinstall it using the basic MiKTeX installation you 
can download from here:

http://miktex.org/2.7/setup
(Then you have the latest version that fixed some nasty bugs. 
Otherwise the lyX installer would do the update for you, but this 
takes longer than reinstalling MiKTeX.)

Then reinstall LyX and wait the needed time. This is all you can do.

regards Uwe


HI, Uwe, Thank you for your reply, and Thank you for your suggestion.

I have found the problem, and find a way to work around it.

Actually, I first installed the latest version of basic MikTex 2.7 . 
During setup, I choose the update option in MikTex's Setting dialog 
Install missing pages, of --- Ask me first.


But when I install the Lyx (both the standard version or the alternative 
installer), the installer will *automatically* change this option to 
Yes. (it seems very strange) So the installation takes a long time if 
I have a low speed of network or even pending when I have No internet 
connection.


So, the trick is : (If you have no network or low speed of networks)

1,kill the last step configuration of installation of Lyx.
2,Setting the MikTex update option  *back* to Ask me first.
3,start Lyx to let it initialize configuration , and When some message 
box prompt to ask whether downloading missing packages. I always choose 
cancel.

4,After step 3, the Lyx can work now.

By the way, Even I make a full installation of basic MikTex 2.7, there 
are still several missing packages required by Lyx. Maybe, They can be 
downloaded when I have a network or a higher speed connection(using the 
reconfigure menu). But without these required packages, the Lyx can 
works well.



I'm struggling with this installation problem for about 24 Hours, All 
what I can do is install and reinstall of different packages again 
and again :-(
So, you can think how depressed I feel. Anyway, I surely solved this 
problem at last.










Re: [correction] LyXWinInstaller for LyX 1.6.0

2008-11-30 Thread Asm_gmail

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

> I'm totally annoying of installing the Lyx 1.6.
> My system is Windows xp, I have Miktex 2.7 be installed already.
>
> I have tried
> "LyX-1.6.0-1-Installer.exe"
> or
> "LyX-160-4-15-AltInstaller-Small.exe"
> But none of them can be properly installed.
>
> Here is my problem:
>
> Every time during the last period of installing, it will connect to 
the internet and downloading
> something Lyx seems missing.(I think the python will do this, and 
download it behind the screen).

>
> But it takes *several hours*!!! I can't wait it for too long, So, I 
just disconnect my networks,

> then, the installation finished.

This was a bad choice. When LyX is installed, its configure script 
checks the existing LaTeX system. So it asks latex.exe if several 
LaTeX-packages are available. latex.exe then automatically downloads 
the missing packages asked by LyX. Depending on your Internet 
connection, this can indeed take hours (usually it takes 10 minutes 
with a DSL connection).
When you abort this process, you kill the configuration script of LyX 
and still have an incomplete LaTeX installation and therefore get 
problems.


So you have to with the time until the downloading and installation is 
done. The Alternative installer therefore displays the current 
download and installation state in a console Window.


To speed up the installation a bit I suggest to uninstall MiKTeX 
_completely_ and reinstall it using the basic MiKTeX installation you 
can download from here:

http://miktex.org/2.7/setup
(Then you have the latest version that fixed some nasty bugs. 
Otherwise the lyX installer would do the update for you, but this 
takes longer than reinstalling MiKTeX.)

Then reinstall LyX and wait the needed time. This is all you can do.

regards Uwe


HI, Uwe, Thank you for your reply, and Thank you for your suggestion.

I have found the problem, and find a way to work around it.

Actually, I first installed the latest version of basic MikTex 2.7 . 
During setup, I choose the update option in MikTex's Setting dialog 
"Install missing pages", of ---> "Ask me first".


But when I install the Lyx (both the standard version or the alternative 
installer), the installer will *automatically* change this option to 
"Yes". (it seems very strange) So the installation takes a long time if 
I have a low speed of network or even pending when I have No internet 
connection.


So, the trick is : (If you have no network or low speed of networks)

1,kill the last step configuration of installation of Lyx.
2,Setting the MikTex update option  *back* to "Ask me first".
3,start Lyx to let it initialize configuration , and When some message 
box prompt to ask whether downloading missing packages. I always choose 
"cancel".

4,After step 3, the Lyx can work now.

By the way, Even I make a full installation of "basic MikTex 2.7", there 
are still several missing packages required by Lyx. Maybe, They can be 
downloaded when I have a network or a higher speed connection(using the 
reconfigure menu). But without these "required packages", the Lyx can 
works well.



I'm struggling with this installation problem for about 24 Hours, All 
what I can do is "install" and "reinstall" of different packages again 
and again :-(
So, you can think how depressed I feel. Anyway, I surely solved this 
problem at last.