Re: Hebrew document template

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 at 10:34, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

>
>
> Would you like to include the example into LyX examples we distribute with
> the
> sourcecodes?
>
>
Sure, I think it might be useful.

Thanks,
Guy
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Hebrew document template

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

Every once in a while someone asks around how to set up a Hebrew document
in  LyX. To make things easier, I've created a template with some sane
defaults.

https://github.com/guyru/lyx-hebrew-templates

It uses XeTeX, David CLM as the Roman font and Koma-Script Article as the
document class.
I hope others will find it useful.

Thanks,
Guy
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Re: Parentheses keys are reversed in Hebrew

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

I've made some more experiments (this time on the git version) and it seems
the behavior changes based on how hebrew is typed:
* If you are using the system's keyboard layout then () get reversed, and
[] {} <> are correct.
* If you are using lyx's hebrew keymap (and system's keyboard layout as
english) then () are correct and [],{} and <> are reversed.

In both cases, the display in lyx matches xelatex output (which is good).

Thanks,
Guy

On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 09:52, Guy Rutenberg  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm re-sending my last message as it appears I accidentally didn't send it
> to the list. I've also added the lyx-devel, as it seems to be more
> appropriate.
>
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 17:22, Guy Rutenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:05, Daniel  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> However, this is with an English, German, etc. keyboard layout. This
>>> changes if I switch to the Hebrew keyboard layout. But then the Hebrew
>>> keyboard layout seems to have parenthesis switched relative to the
>>> English:
>>>
>>
>> I'm referring to the case of using Hebrew keyboard layout.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard#/media/File:Hebrew_keyboard_layout.png
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know how made that diagram, but I'm pretty sure that he didn't
>> use an actual Hebrew keyboard. I have around seven different keyboards
>> around me right now from different manufacturers, non have this weird
>> things with reversed parenthesis. Even the actual keyboard photo in the
>> Wiki article shows the parenthesis to be normal and not reversed as in the
>> diagram.
>>
>>
>>> So, if you are using a Hebrew keyboard layout, then LyX seems to behave
>>> correctly. But in that case I am wondering why other applications don't
>>> behave that way for you.
>>
>>
>> Because LyX behavior is unexpected to the normal user.
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 13:11, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please comment here:
>>> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11191
>>>
>>> We generally need to audit LyX's behavior with bracket/parens input in
>>> RTL, but we urgently need input from experienced users.
>>>
>>>
>> I've added a new comment there as well. I'll gladly help to fix this
>> issue if someone can point me in the right direction.
>>
>
>
> I've looked again at the bug and the patch linked there. It seems that the
> code handling parenthesis had been moved to somewhere else. Where does it
> resides now? I want to try and patch it so it won't reverse parenthesis in
> hebrew.
>
> Thanks,
> Guy
>

Re: Parentheses keys are reversed in Hebrew

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,
I'm re-sending my last message as it appears I accidentally didn't send it
to the list. I've also added the lyx-devel, as it seems to be more
appropriate.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 17:22, Guy Rutenberg  wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 11:05, Daniel  wrote:
>
>>
>> However, this is with an English, German, etc. keyboard layout. This
>> changes if I switch to the Hebrew keyboard layout. But then the Hebrew
>> keyboard layout seems to have parenthesis switched relative to the
>> English:
>>
>
> I'm referring to the case of using Hebrew keyboard layout.
>
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard#/media/File:Hebrew_keyboard_layout.png
>>
>>
> I don't know how made that diagram, but I'm pretty sure that he didn't use
> an actual Hebrew keyboard. I have around seven different keyboards around
> me right now from different manufacturers, non have this weird things with
> reversed parenthesis. Even the actual keyboard photo in the Wiki article
> shows the parenthesis to be normal and not reversed as in the diagram.
>
>
>> So, if you are using a Hebrew keyboard layout, then LyX seems to behave
>> correctly. But in that case I am wondering why other applications don't
>> behave that way for you.
>
>
> Because LyX behavior is unexpected to the normal user.
>
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 13:11, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Please comment here:
>> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11191
>>
>> We generally need to audit LyX's behavior with bracket/parens input in
>> RTL, but we urgently need input from experienced users.
>>
>>
> I've added a new comment there as well. I'll gladly help to fix this issue
> if someone can point me in the right direction.
>


I've looked again at the bug and the patch linked there. It seems that the
code handling parenthesis had been moved to somewhere else. Where does it
resides now? I want to try and patch it so it won't reverse parenthesis in
hebrew.

Thanks,
Guy

Parentheses keys are reversed in Hebrew

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

I've noticed a peculiar behavior when writing an Hebrew document in LyX.
Whenever I type parentheses they get reversed. The problem does not happen
when switching to English. For example if i type (  I get )
 instead, and vice-versa. This happens with all kinds of
bracketing including <>, [], {}.


I can see the logic behind this, treating logically  as "opening
parenthesis" and  as "closing parenthesis", and them mapping it,
logically, to Hebrew which is right-to-left. However, this is quiet
annoying, because no other program behaves that way.

Is there a way to fix this?

Thanks,
Guy

Horizontal Bullet List

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

Is there a way to create horizontal bullet lists instead of vertical? In
plain latex this can be achieved using the `enumitem` with the option
`inline` and using `itemize*` instead of `itemize` (unstarred).

Thanks,
Guy

LyX 2.2.1 for Debian Jessie

[Guy Rutenberg]

I've uploaded to my personal repository (unofficial) builds of LyX 2.2.1
for Debian Jessie.

https://www.guyrutenberg.com/debian/jessie/

Enjoy,
Guy

LyX 2.2 for Debian Jessie

[Guy Rutenberg]

I've backported the LyX 2.2 package from Unstable to Jessie and thought it
might be useful for others as well. Debs can be found in

https://www.guyrutenberg.com/debian/jessie/

Regards,
Guy

Re: Help us fix math environment translations in LyX

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi All,


On 9 April 2014 18:57, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> Dear LyX users,
>
> do you speak one of the languages below and have 5 min of your time to
> help LyX to
> translate few math environments correctly to PDF outputs? If yes please
> check
> the section of you language in the following link and write us back
> correct translations.
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.editors.lyx.documentation/8398
>
>
>
These is a Hebrew translation of those words:

>
>
> Additionally to the top ones, these languages should be reviewed for the
> following strings:
>

"Property" "תכונה"
"Solution" "פתרון"
"Listing" "רשומת קוד"
"Listings" "רשומות קוד"


Regards,

Guy

Lemmas in Beamer and Other Block Environments

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

Beamer supports various kinds of block environments out of the box such as
theorem, proof, lemma and etc. Some of them are also supported by the
default lyx layout (I'm using lyx 2.0), and some, notably the lemma, aren't
supported.

I can "enable" this environment using a local layout. But is ther an easier
way to do it? Maybe someone already wrote a layout which is more
comprehensive than the default?

Second question: Is there a way to enable inserting short titles for
certain environments via a local layout? For example, I would like to give
names to certain theorems which could be done by insert "[name]" as TeX
code in the beginning of the theorem, but it would be nice if I could just
use the Insert->Short Title, just like I do in regular papers (as opposed
to beamer).

Thanks,

Guy

Spell checker: Per document ignore list

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

Is there a way to create a per document list of words to ignore? When
working on a paper in a certain subject there are common related terms
which are labels as typos. Using "ignore all" is annoying, as it have to be
repeated for every such term each time I re-open the document. Adding the
terms to the global ignore-list is not perfect either, as in other
occasions I would like those terms flagged.

Is there a good way to so?

Thanks,

Guy

Re: lyx-users Digest 3 Apr 2013 07:40:52 -0000 Issue 817

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,


On 3 April 2013 10:40, From: Cor Blom  wrote:-

>
>
> If you mean the "culmus-fonts" package in opensuse, this is not a latex
> package, but just contains the fonts (can only be used in xelatex of
> luatex).
>
> For support of Hebrew, you can install "texlive-collection-**langhebrew".
>
> If you use the opensuse packages, manual running texhash or something like
> that is not needed.
>
> FYI: in openSUSE 12.3 the packaging of texlive is completely changed
> compared with earlier releases. See e.g.
>
> http://jaegerandi.blogspot.de/**2012/12/easy-way-to-install-**
> tex-packages-for.html
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Cor
>

I'm probably joining the conversation a bit late, but just as Cor said, the
culmus-fonts package doesn't offer latex support. For getting culmus to
work in latex, you will need the culmus-latex package. Unfortunately, I
don't think it's in the official repositories for openSUSE. However,
installation is quite easy.

Instructions + download:

http://guyrutenberg.com/culmus-latex

(I maintain that package).

Regards,

Guy

Re: Lyx Hebrew support (with Culmus) failure

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

On 21 Feb 2013 20:01,Mordechai Butrashvily  wrote:

> Good news.
> Apparently the map file was not configured properly.
> All fonts are ok, and after running updmap-sys --enable in the correct
> folder, solved all issues.
> It's time to get more familiar with Lyx and Latex internals.
>


I'm maintain the culmus-latex package, so this failure is of interest to
me. Where there any errors when running the installation script related to
the updmap command?

I'm aware of at least one possible failure there (
http://www.guyrutenberg.com/2012/04/20/installing-culmus-latex-on-ubuntu-11-10/)
due to a bug introduced to updmap by the Debian maintainers (I filed bug
report on this). I just want to understand whether it's similar or is it a
new unrelated bug (possibly in culmus-latex itself).

Regards,

Guy

Re: lyx in arabic or persian

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi Parastoo,

I've no experience using LyX with Arabic or Farsi, so I only guess. Have
you set the language correctly in Document->Settings->Language? At least
for Hebrew it's necessary.

Regards,

Guy


On 31 January 2013 00:05, Parastoo Mojabi  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Parastoo Mojabi <
> parastoo.moj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> hope you are doing great.
>>
>> I have difficulties making lyx in Farsi, I did as the internet saying,
>> but article[arabic] is un available in my document class, I paste
>> article-arabic.layout. every where but still doesnt work.
>> now my document is left to right which i wanted to be right to left and
>> the letters of arabic showing is wrong.
>>
>> please help me
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>

Re: Strange Behaivor: xdg-open left as zombie

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

On 5 January 2013 22:02, Richard Heck  wrote:

> This should be reported to the Ubuntu people. They include a patch that
> uses xdg-open for this kind of purpose. The LyX sources do not include that
> patch, for other reasons.
>
>
I've reported the bug in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/109

Ubuntu users: If you're using Ubuntu and can confirm it affects you, please
indicate it that bug report.

Thanks,

Guy

Re: LyX and thmtools

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi Richard,


On 20 December 2012 18:01, Richard Heck  wrote:

>
>
> (4) Open theorems-mine.inc and change the Preamble code for each
> environment as you wish. When you see the file, you'll see what to do.
>
>
>
 Thanks, for your advise. After looking at the process, I thought I should
attempt writing adding a more throughout support for thmtools. In order to
do that, I need to redefine the "Numbered by *" modules, to pass the
correct options to thmtools if it's in use.

Is there an easy way to check if a module is loaded? It would help me add
code to detect thmtools in those modules.

I can resort to latex, if there is not such option.

Regards,

Guy

Re: LyX Interface to the \hyperref Command?

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your reply.


On 15 December 2012 17:51, Steve Litt  wrote:

>
>
> I use hyperref in all my books. I just \usepackage{hyperref} in the
> layout file, as I remember.
>
>
I probably wasn't clear in the problem I described. LyX makes it very easy
to setup hyperref support so references actually links in the resulting pdf
document (you can just select in Document->Settings).

However, the hyperref package provides the \hyperref[labelname]{link text}
command (it's a command with the same name as the package). This command is
somewhat like the href command LyX support but instead of pointing at a URL
it points to a label in the current document. This is the command I'm
looking for an interface for.

Thanks,

Guy

Re: Hebrew and Nikud on Linux (Ubuntu)

[Guy Rutenberg]

HI Nigel,

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Nigel Pegram  wrote:

> Hi Guy (and list users),
>
> Iviritex doesn't seem to make a difference. Neither does specifying
> fontencoding or fontfamily.
>
> Strangely, I stumbled on an almost complete solution which doesn't seem to
> make any sense to me.
>
> Keeping everything else on the default settings, if I add
>
> \errorcontextlines=10
>
> to my preamble and use utf8x encoding in the language settings, the errors
> go away and I can output pointed Hebrew.


The behaviour you describe sounds very weird, but I'm glad you found a
solution. It would be really interesting to find out what effect does
\errorcontextlines have on nikud.


>
>
> The only irritant is that the location of the vowels is not very good.
>

The nikud placement process uses Postscript 3, so it requires some special
care when generating the document. IIRC the process it run

latex -> dvips -> ps2pdf

I must admit that I too have problem getting the nikud correctly. The best
person to consult this issue with is Yotam Medini from the Ivritex mailing
list (he also contributed the Nikud support to culmus-latex).

Regards,

Guy



http://www.guyrutenberg.com/culmus-latex

Re: Hebrew and Nikud on Linux (Ubuntu)

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi Nigel,

Nigel Pegram  writes:

> 
> Iviritex is  installed, as is culmus-latex.
> 

Ivritex is no longer necessary (or compatible) with modern Tex distributions.
What Tex distribution do you use?

If it's a modern one (e.g. at least Texlive-2007 or teTex 3.) I would suggest
you remove Ivritex and reinstall the Tex distribution (including culmus-latex).

If it's an old Tex distribution, culmus-latex might not be compatible with it.

>
> The error is still the same, asking that the combine option be set.
>

I took a look in the LyX document you provided as an example.
1. You got to have \usepackage{culmus} in you preamble.
2. \usepackage{hebfont} isn't required.
3. The Hebrew fonts in culmus-latex are HE8 encoded. So you have to add
\fontencoding{HE8} before the Hebrew text
4. You need to specify a nikud enabled font (such as franknikud) using
\fontfamily

In the culmus-latex tarball there is an examples directory with an example
(hiriq) for using nikud. Try to compile in order to see whether the nikud
support is functioning correctly on your system. If not I suggest you contact
the Ivritex mailing list.


I hope I've been of help.



Sincerely,

Guy


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Re: LyX can't find local packages

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

Paul A. Rubin  writes:
> The key is that LaTeX must know where to find the .sty file.  So
> 
> 1.  Create the style file somewhere in the LaTeX directory structure 
> (typically something like 
> /tex/latex/myNewClass/myclassname.sty).  This has the side 
> benefit of protecting the file from deletion is you upgrade either LyX 
> or your TeX distro.

Generally speaking you are right. The problem is that the package is developed
very closely with the document (actually I'm implementing what I need as I go).
By default LaTeX searches first the local directory, then the local texmf dir
and last the different site wide ones.

I'm looking for a way to keep the LyX file and the package together, if 
possible.

> Note that if this really is a document class, rather than a package, 
> you'll need to make the extension .cls, you'll need to kludge together a 
> LyX layout file for it, and you'll need to reconfigure LyX to find the 
> layout (*after* you've done step 2).  But I'm guessing you meant "style" 
>   rather than "class" above.

Actually, I haven't decided yet whether to write only a package to override the
document styles and tweak them as required, or to make it a complete new
document class, hence my confusion with relating to it.

Thanks,

Guy

LyX can't find local packages

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

I'm trying to use a local LaTeX class (actually I'm writing it). I've put
the .sty file in the same directory as the lyx file but when I add
\usepackage{myclassname} it says it can't find myclassname.sty.

IIRC in previous versions LyX would find files in the current directory too.

I'm using Lyx 1.6.

Does it happens only to me or someone else experienced the same problem?


Regards,

Guy

Re: Can you suggest a good way to draw pictures with latex code?

[Guy Rutenberg]

Julio Rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> Inkscape. Not direct latex code, but very very good.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

@Erez: Inkscape  is a vector drawing program. It can
generate .eps figures you can easily embed in you document (and they are
resolution independent).

Another great feature of Inkscape that makes it great tool for mathematical
figures is it's ability (via plugins) to embed LaTeX formulas in the figures
(great for labels).



Regards,

Guy


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Re: [Bug] LyX 1.5.6 ignores amsmath settings when adding \iint

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK, then it is really a bug: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5350
> I fixed it now for LyX 1.6.0.
>
> regards Uwe
>

Thanks Uwe, I've checked both the svn version of 1.6.0 and 1.5.7 and it
worked.



Guy

Re: [Bug] LyX 1.5.6 ignores amsmath settings when adding \iint

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK, I used the default esint package math option, therefore I couldn't see
> this. I don't know exactly, but remember that we only turn off automatically
> detection of the amssymb package but not the amsmath package to keep
> documents compilable.
>
> To suppress this, use the math option "use esint" or "use esint
> automatically.
>
> regards Uwe
>


I can't. Because esint must be added after amsmath or else I would get
errors about \iint being redefined etc. I have to add the amsmath manually
in the preamble for the reasons I stated before, so esint must also be added
manually to the preamle.

Is there a way to completly turn off the amsmath detection? If there isn't a
gui option to do it, is there a simple way to disable it in the code?

BTW is this behaivior expected to remain in future versions of LyX?

Thanks again,

Guy

Re: [Bug] LyX 1.5.6 ignores amsmath settings when adding \iint

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I see, but I cannot reproduce it here with LyX 1.5.7svn. Could you send me
> the LyX file you are using?
>
>
I've attached a  file that reproduces the bug (at least under 1.5.6).

Thanks,

Guy


iint_bug.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: [Bug] LyX 1.5.6 ignores amsmath settings when adding \iint

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,



On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not LyX inserts this, you did, see below:
>

Maybe I wasn't clear in my message. Here is a code snippet of the document
created by LyX 1.5.6

%% LyX 1.5.6 created this file.  For more info, see http://www.lyx.org/.
%% Do not edit unless you really know what you are doing.
\makeatletter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/guy/Documents/אוניברסיטה/20394//}}
\makeatother
\documentclass[a4paper,english,hebrew]{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9,cp1255]{inputenc}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\pagestyle{fancy}
\usepackage{amsmath} <--- This is the line that is added
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{setspace}
\onehalfspacing

\makeatletter
%% Textclass specific LaTeX commands.
\usepackage{theorem}
\theorembodyfont{\upshape}
\newtheorem{theorem}{\R{משפט}}[section]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

%% User specified LaTeX commands.
\usepackage{babel}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\usepackage{esint}




The line marked as "This is the line that is added" is added once I add a
\iint symbol to any of my formulas. It should not be there according to the
AMS package settings in the Document Settings. This bug didn't happen in
previous versions LyX.

I hope that I made it a bit clear what was added by me to the preamble and
what was added by LyX.


Regards,

Guy

[Bug] LyX 1.5.6 ignores amsmath settings when adding \iint

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

I've encountered some strange behavior in LyX 1.5.6. In the document
settings I've disabled the "Use AMS math package automatically" and
unchecked the "Use AMS math package", but when I add a formula containing
the \iint symbol, this setting gets ignored and LyX uses the AMS math
package.

The problem with it is that I need to add the amsmath package after babel so
I have to do it manually in the latex preamble section of the document
settings. However, when LyX adds it it does so *before* adding babel.

Regards,

Guy


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Re: Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> This can be done by redefining the eqnarray environment to be the align
environment, you should find 
>   how this is done in the archive of this list.
> 
> regards Uwe
> 
> 

Thanks very much for your reply. I tried searching the archive and google but
couldn't find anything useful.

Using \renewenvironment didn't work (LyX still treats it as an eqnarray and adds
an extra &).

Could you give me more detailed pointers to where I may find a solution?

Regards,

Guy

Setting align as the default environment for multiline formulas

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

I'm looking for a way to set the align environment as the default one in LyX for
multiline formulas. E.g. when in display mode and I press Ctrl+Enter I want the
formula to use the align environment instead of the eqnarray one.

Is it possible? If so, how can I do it?

Thanks,

Guy

Lyx 1.5svn and pdflatex

[Guy Rutenberg]

hi,

I compiled from source lyx 1.5 from the svn. And discovered that pdflatex is
not a listed under the view menu or the file->export as default anymore and
one should add it himself (through setting dialog) if he wants to use it.
Does this reflect anything about pdflatex? Why they didn't list it as
default option like it was in older versions?


Regards,
Guy

Multiple lines in displayed formula

[Guy Rutenberg]

I want to enter a multiple lines into a display formula and center each line
by it's own (I don't won't the lines to aligned together).

The equivalent tex input for what i ask is:

$$\displaylines{(x+a)^2 = x^2+2ax+a^2\cr
   (x+a)(x-a) = x^2-a^2\cr}$$


Can someone please explain to me how do I do it in LyX?

Regards,
Guy

Using kpdf as the default pdf viewer

[Guy Rutenberg]

Hi,

I'm using LyX 1.4 on Linux and I would like to set kpdf (instead of gv) as
my default viewer in LyX for pdf's. Can someone please write to me how to do
it or  point me to where I would find such instructions?


Regards,
Guy