Re: A feature you really need
Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, Useful indeed. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an are you sure screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. I am not sure the are you sure thing is needed - instead, undo will reinstate anything deleted by accident. Or make it a two-click button: * First click marks the stuff to be deleted, and moves (some of) it into view in the main window if needed. The button changes to something that indicate deletion, such as scissors. * The next click deletes the stuff, and resets the button. Any other action except scrolling (to see what will go) should also reset the button and remove the marking. This at least avoids the dreaded popup. Helge Hafting
Re: A feature you really need
Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, Useful indeed. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an are you sure screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. I am not sure the are you sure thing is needed - instead, undo will reinstate anything deleted by accident. Or make it a two-click button: * First click marks the stuff to be deleted, and moves (some of) it into view in the main window if needed. The button changes to something that indicate deletion, such as scissors. * The next click deletes the stuff, and resets the button. Any other action except scrolling (to see what will go) should also reset the button and remove the marking. This at least avoids the dreaded popup. Helge Hafting
Re: A feature you really need
Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe "Insert Subservient" The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, Useful indeed. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an "are you sure" screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. I am not sure the "are you sure" thing is needed - instead, "undo" will reinstate anything deleted by accident. Or make it a two-click button: * First click marks the stuff to be deleted, and moves (some of) it into view in the main window if needed. The button changes to something that indicate deletion, such as scissors. * The next click deletes the stuff, and resets the button. Any other action except scrolling (to see what will go) should also reset the button and remove the marking. This at least avoids the dreaded popup. Helge Hafting
Re: A feature you really need
On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: On 08/21/2009 07:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki To add it, login and the click New Ticket and follow the instructions. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted
Re: A feature you really need
On Sunday 23 August 2009 11:39:17 John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki To add it, login and the click New Ticket and follow the instructions. Thanks John. I just added the ticket. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: On 08/21/2009 07:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki To add it, login and the click New Ticket and follow the instructions. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted
Re: A feature you really need
On Sunday 23 August 2009 11:39:17 John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki To add it, login and the click New Ticket and follow the instructions. Thanks John. I just added the ticket. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: > On 08/21/2009 07:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or > > three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: > > > > * Insert > > * Delete > > * Maybe "Insert Subservient" > > Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will > implement it. :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littwrote: > On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: >> Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will >> implement it. > > :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki To add it, login and the click "New Ticket" and follow the instructions. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted
Re: A feature you really need
On Sunday 23 August 2009 11:39:17 John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littwrote: > > On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote: > >> Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will > >> implement it. > >> > > :-) What is a trac, and how do I add it? > > http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki > > To add it, login and the click "New Ticket" and follow the instructions. Thanks John. I just added the ticket. SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
A feature you really need
Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, directly above either the next heading at the current level, or if the next heading superior to the current level, whichever comes first. A little window should pop up for you to type the text of the heading into. This can be mapped to the Insert key, which at least on my LyX is unmapped. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an are you sure screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. The Insert Subservient button would insert a headline 1 level subservient to the current level, just above the next headline 1 level subservient to the current one or the next level superior to that. In other words, it goes below any text directly below the current outline. Maybe map this to Ctrl+Insert or something. With these two or three added buttons you now have a fully functional outline processor integrated with the document processor. True, this outline processor isn't as fast or featureful as VimOutliner, but it can be used to design/outline chapters. I just tried designing a chapter with the current outline mode without the buttons, and it's so slow as to make you forget what you're doing. You must repeatedly type in headlines in the doc, then give them headline level environments, then move them around with the up and down and in and out. I can't explain why, but it's incredibly slow, and it takes your mind away from the designing. You know, even just the one Insert button would make this a WHOLE BUNCH faster to use. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On 08/21/2009 07:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. rh The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, directly above either the next heading at the current level, or if the next heading superior to the current level, whichever comes first. A little window should pop up for you to type the text of the heading into. This can be mapped to the Insert key, which at least on my LyX is unmapped. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an are you sure screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. The Insert Subservient button would insert a headline 1 level subservient to the current level, just above the next headline 1 level subservient to the current one or the next level superior to that. In other words, it goes below any text directly below the current outline. Maybe map this to Ctrl+Insert or something. With these two or three added buttons you now have a fully functional outline processor integrated with the document processor. True, this outline processor isn't as fast or featureful as VimOutliner, but it can be used to design/outline chapters. I just tried designing a chapter with the current outline mode without the buttons, and it's so slow as to make you forget what you're doing. You must repeatedly type in headlines in the doc, then give them headline level environments, then move them around with the up and down and in and out. I can't explain why, but it's incredibly slow, and it takes your mind away from the designing. You know, even just the one Insert button would make this a WHOLE BUNCH faster to use. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
A feature you really need
Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, directly above either the next heading at the current level, or if the next heading superior to the current level, whichever comes first. A little window should pop up for you to type the text of the heading into. This can be mapped to the Insert key, which at least on my LyX is unmapped. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an are you sure screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. The Insert Subservient button would insert a headline 1 level subservient to the current level, just above the next headline 1 level subservient to the current one or the next level superior to that. In other words, it goes below any text directly below the current outline. Maybe map this to Ctrl+Insert or something. With these two or three added buttons you now have a fully functional outline processor integrated with the document processor. True, this outline processor isn't as fast or featureful as VimOutliner, but it can be used to design/outline chapters. I just tried designing a chapter with the current outline mode without the buttons, and it's so slow as to make you forget what you're doing. You must repeatedly type in headlines in the doc, then give them headline level environments, then move them around with the up and down and in and out. I can't explain why, but it's incredibly slow, and it takes your mind away from the designing. You know, even just the one Insert button would make this a WHOLE BUNCH faster to use. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On 08/21/2009 07:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe Insert Subservient Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. rh The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, directly above either the next heading at the current level, or if the next heading superior to the current level, whichever comes first. A little window should pop up for you to type the text of the heading into. This can be mapped to the Insert key, which at least on my LyX is unmapped. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an are you sure screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. The Insert Subservient button would insert a headline 1 level subservient to the current level, just above the next headline 1 level subservient to the current one or the next level superior to that. In other words, it goes below any text directly below the current outline. Maybe map this to Ctrl+Insert or something. With these two or three added buttons you now have a fully functional outline processor integrated with the document processor. True, this outline processor isn't as fast or featureful as VimOutliner, but it can be used to design/outline chapters. I just tried designing a chapter with the current outline mode without the buttons, and it's so slow as to make you forget what you're doing. You must repeatedly type in headlines in the doc, then give them headline level environments, then move them around with the up and down and in and out. I can't explain why, but it's incredibly slow, and it takes your mind away from the designing. You know, even just the one Insert button would make this a WHOLE BUNCH faster to use. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
A feature you really need
Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe "Insert Subservient" The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, directly above either the next heading at the current level, or if the next heading superior to the current level, whichever comes first. A little window should pop up for you to type the text of the heading into. This can be mapped to the Insert key, which at least on my LyX is unmapped. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an "are you sure" screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. The "Insert Subservient button would insert a headline 1 level subservient to the current level, just above the next headline 1 level subservient to the current one or the next level superior to that. In other words, it goes below any text directly below the current outline. Maybe map this to Ctrl+Insert or something. With these two or three added buttons you now have a fully functional outline processor integrated with the document processor. True, this outline processor isn't as fast or featureful as VimOutliner, but it can be used to design/outline chapters. I just tried designing a chapter with the current outline mode without the buttons, and it's so slow as to make you forget what you're doing. You must repeatedly type in headlines in the doc, then give them headline level environments, then move them around with the up and down and in and out. I can't explain why, but it's incredibly slow, and it takes your mind away from the designing. You know, even just the one Insert button would make this a WHOLE BUNCH faster to use. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
Re: A feature you really need
On 08/21/2009 07:00 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Thank you so much for the outline view on LyX 1.6.x. You need two or three more buttons to make the outline view fully functional: * Insert * Delete * Maybe "Insert Subservient" Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will implement it. rh The Insert function inserts a new heading, at the level of the current heading, directly above either the next heading at the current level, or if the next heading superior to the current level, whichever comes first. A little window should pop up for you to type the text of the heading into. This can be mapped to the Insert key, which at least on my LyX is unmapped. The Delete function deletes the current headline and everything subservient to it. This function should have an "are you sure" screen, and maybe highlight in the document view everything that will be deleted. No need for a keyboard mapping --- this should not be done thoughtlessly. The "Insert Subservient button would insert a headline 1 level subservient to the current level, just above the next headline 1 level subservient to the current one or the next level superior to that. In other words, it goes below any text directly below the current outline. Maybe map this to Ctrl+Insert or something. With these two or three added buttons you now have a fully functional outline processor integrated with the document processor. True, this outline processor isn't as fast or featureful as VimOutliner, but it can be used to design/outline chapters. I just tried designing a chapter with the current outline mode without the buttons, and it's so slow as to make you forget what you're doing. You must repeatedly type in headlines in the doc, then give them headline level environments, then move them around with the up and down and in and out. I can't explain why, but it's incredibly slow, and it takes your mind away from the designing. You know, even just the one Insert button would make this a WHOLE BUNCH faster to use. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Recession Relief Package http://www.recession-relief.US Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt