Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-25 Thread Daniel Lohmann
On 14.08.2009, at 15:56, Pavel Sanda wrote: Daniel Lohmann wrote: Or am I mistaken here? I am still seeking for a definite answer regarding the conversion route that to my understanding is automatically deduced by LyX (TiKZ --> PDF | PDF --> Preview). It seem that (newer?) versions of LyX

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-14 Thread Pavel Sanda
Daniel Lohmann wrote: > Or am I mistaken here? I am still seeking for a definite answer regarding > the conversion route that to my understanding is automatically deduced by > LyX (TiKZ --> PDF | PDF --> Preview). It seem that (newer?) versions of LyX > just pass everything right through to Imag

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Daniel Lohmann wrote: > The real problem is to get the preamble right. Because TikZ is a huge > package that has a noticeable impact on LaTeX compilation times (and > memory consumption), it is pretty well modularized into multiple > libraries. A typical preamble for a TikZ figure looks as fo

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Lohmann
On 13.08.2009, at 11:22, Pavel Sanda wrote: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: - to make a python script which would take the parent document dumps the preamble, then inputs tikz, latex it and returns figure for both preview and output. Here is such a python script (although i

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Lohmann
On 12.08.2009, at 09:53, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2009-08-11, Pavel Sanda wrote: Daniel Lohmann wrote: that mean that it is *not possible* to achieve goal (1) (the preview in LyX, everything else works) via file formats and converters only? unless imagemagick convert utility knows how to

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Lohmann
On 13.08.2009, at 06:47, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Daniel Lohmann wrote: Hi, So here is what I want to achieve: I have some TikZ figures (which are actually stand-alone LaTeX- documents with the extension .tikz) that I want to embed (not the source, but the PDF

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > - to make a python script which would take the parent document dumps the > > preamble, then inputs tikz, latex it and returns figure for both preview > > and output. > > Here is such a python script (although it is a bit too UNIX-centric): > http:

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > - to make a python script which would take the parent document dumps the > preamble, then inputs tikz, latex it and returns figure for both preview > and output. Here is such a python script (although it is a bit too UNIX-centric): http://kogs-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~me

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > > I guess the tikz file would need its own preamble. > > well, i have written my ideas with taking into account Paul's concerns: > > Recall that one of the strengths of TikZ/pgf is that the fonts and > > such in the figure will match the document. If you persist in keeping > >

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > and the parent preamble? > > I guess the tikz file would need its own preamble. well, i have written my ideas with taking into account Paul's concerns: > Recall that one of the strengths of TikZ/pgf is that the fonts and > such in the figure wil

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > and the parent preamble? I guess the tikz file would need its own preamble. Jürgen

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > IMHO the only way to go is an external inset that > > * outputs \input{myfigure.tiks} to LaTeX > and > * uses the graphics approach for the preview. > > I think this should be possible with the current external templates approach. and the parent preamble? pavel

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > i see three possibilities: > > - one possibility would be to make external template which tries to > the instant preview from the included file only. it will work 100% > for typeset output, preview will work for figures and somewhat unreliably > for the documents i guess.

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-13 Thread Pavel Sanda
Paul Johnson wrote: > I am sorry if I am telling you something you already know, but... thanks for info (i know basically nothing about tikz) > It seems to me you are throwing away the value of TikZ by doing this. > > Recall that one of the strengths of TikZ/pgf is that the fonts and > such in t

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Daniel Lohmann wrote: > Hi, > > > > So here is what I want to achieve: > > I have some TikZ figures (which are actually stand-alone LaTeX-documents > with the extension .tikz) that I want to embed (not the source, but the > PDF/EPS via \includegraphics) into my LyX d

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-12 Thread Florian Rubach
Daniel Lohmann schrieb: Hi, ... So here is what I want to achieve: I have some TikZ figures (which are actually stand-alone LaTeX-documents with the extension .tikz) that I want to embed (not the source, but the PDF/EPS via \includegraphics) into my LyX document in a way that (1) the LyX-P

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-12 Thread Pavel Sanda
Guenter Milde wrote: > On 2009-08-11, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > Daniel Lohmann wrote: > >> that mean that it is *not possible* to achieve goal (1) (the preview in > >> LyX, everything else works) via file formats and converters only? > > > unless imagemagick convert utility knows how to deal with it

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-12 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-08-11, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Daniel Lohmann wrote: >> that mean that it is *not possible* to achieve goal (1) (the preview in >> LyX, everything else works) via file formats and converters only? > unless imagemagick convert utility knows how to deal with it (i think > it doesn't) i'm not a

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-11 Thread Pavel Sanda
Daniel Lohmann wrote: > that mean that it is *not possible* to achieve goal (1) (the preview in > LyX, everything else works) via file formats and converters only? unless imagemagick convert utility knows how to deal with it (i think it doesn't) i'm not aware of such a plain route. pavel

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-11 Thread Daniel Lohmann
On 09.08.2009, at 17:31, Pavel Sanda wrote: Daniel Lohmann wrote: Your help is highly appreciated! try to mimic http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/27914 and ask for inclusion if you succeed. you may also want to comment on bug 4882. Hi Pavel, Thanks for your answer! However, I have to ad

Re: How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-09 Thread Pavel Sanda
Daniel Lohmann wrote: > Your help is highly appreciated! try to mimic http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/27914 and ask for inclusion if you succeed. you may also want to comment on bug 4882. pavel

How to get a preview for "custom" graphics format?

2009-08-07 Thread Daniel Lohmann
Hi, Even though I consider myself a "LyX master" in many respects, the exact usage of "File Formats", "Converters" and "External Material..." have always remained a mystery to me. Today I gave it another try (LyX 1.6.3-mac) -- and failed again. So here is what I want to achieve: I have s