Re: Word count statistics

[Maria Gouskova]

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 6:43 AM Pavel Sanda  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> LyX has currently an issue that the word count statistics does not include
> citations. I am unfortunately afraid that there might not be agreement whether
> these are proper words or not, depending on the publisher/journal.
>
> In your experience with different publications, how many words constitute 
> these?
> [1] : 0/1*
> (Goldman et al., 1976) : 0/1/4*
>
> I tend to implement the starred version unless it causes controversy...
> Alternatively we could count citation words separately, but I do not like
> this solution.
>
> Pavel

In my experience, the word count limit is just a guide to the
appropriate length of a paper. Ain't nobody got time to check whether
you have 502 words in your abstract or 497. But generally, it will be
apparent when you have 750 words and the limit is 500. So, as long as
you are sticking to the spirit of the word limit, you don't have to
worry about whether your references are counted as 4 words or 5.

I've checked the LyX word counter against MS Word/LibreOffice before,
and there are always slight differences in the counts, even for a text
without references. It all comes down to different views on what a
"word" is. Even when you're talking orthographic words (strings with
spaces around them), people will have different opinions on certain
tricky cases. I really don't think you are ever going to have to duke
it out with your editor, though.

Also, some journals explicitly exclude references from their word
count limit. If they care enough to legislate this, they will usually
be clear about it on their submission pages.

Word count statistics

[Pavel Sanda]

Hi,

LyX has currently an issue that the word count statistics does not include
citations. I am unfortunately afraid that there might not be agreement whether
these are proper words or not, depending on the publisher/journal.

In your experience with different publications, how many words constitute these?
[1] : 0/1*
(Goldman et al., 1976) : 0/1/4*

I tend to implement the starred version unless it causes controversy...
Alternatively we could count citation words separately, but I do not like
this solution.

Pavel

Keeping wind of word-count open

[jezZiFeR]

Hello,

is there a way to keep the window of Tools/Statistics open while writing
and editing the current document? For me this would be great, because often
I have to write a fixed amount of words, and it is a lot of selecting and
clicking before being able to finish the project.

OSX 10.11.2
LyX 2.1.4 (well, I’m going to update soon…)

Thanks
Jess

Re: Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Johannes Totz]

On 07/11/2011 05:47, Xu Wang wrote:
 Hi Johannes!
 
 If you want the word count for a selection, can't you just select it, go to
 toolsstatistics ?

Yeah that's what I do now.
Having a ruler is just less clicks. It's not a killer feature but rather
a nice-to-have gimmick.

 
 Best,
 
 Xu
 
 On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Johannes Totz jt...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 
 Hi!

 What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
 along the text?
 Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
 wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...



 Johannes


 

Re: Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Johannes Totz]

On 07/11/2011 05:47, Xu Wang wrote:
 Hi Johannes!
 
 If you want the word count for a selection, can't you just select it, go to
 toolsstatistics ?

Yeah that's what I do now.
Having a ruler is just less clicks. It's not a killer feature but rather
a nice-to-have gimmick.

 
 Best,
 
 Xu
 
 On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Johannes Totz jt...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:
 
 Hi!

 What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
 along the text?
 Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
 wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...



 Johannes


 

Re: Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Johannes Totz]

On 07/11/2011 05:47, Xu Wang wrote:
> Hi Johannes!
> 
> If you want the word count for a selection, can't you just select it, go to
> tools>statistics ?

Yeah that's what I do now.
Having a ruler is just less clicks. It's not a killer feature but rather
a nice-to-have gimmick.

> 
> Best,
> 
> Xu
> 
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Johannes Totz <jt...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
>> along the text?
>> Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
>> wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...
>>
>>
>>
>> Johannes
>>
>>
> 

Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Johannes Totz]

Hi!

What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
along the text?
Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...



Johannes

Re: Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Xu Wang]

Hi Johannes!

If you want the word count for a selection, can't you just select it, go to
toolsstatistics ?

Best,

Xu

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Johannes Totz jt...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi!

 What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
 along the text?
 Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
 wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...



 Johannes

Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Johannes Totz]

Hi!

What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
along the text?
Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...



Johannes

Re: Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Xu Wang]

Hi Johannes!

If you want the word count for a selection, can't you just select it, go to
toolsstatistics ?

Best,

Xu

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Johannes Totz jt...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi!

 What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
 along the text?
 Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
 wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...



 Johannes

Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Johannes Totz]

Hi!

What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
along the text?
Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...



Johannes

Re: Feature suggestion: vertical ruler for word-count

[Xu Wang]

Hi Johannes!

If you want the word count for a selection, can't you just select it, go to
tools>statistics ?

Best,

Xu

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Johannes Totz <jt...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> What do you guys think about a vertical ruler that shows the word count
> along the text?
> Ruler for centimeters doesnt make much sense for Lyx, but I quite often
> wonder about word count in various sections of my documents...
>
>
>
> Johannes
>
>

Insert word count at end of the document

[Kevin Li]

Hi,

Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of the
document (perhaps like a variable)?


Thanks, Kevin.

Re: Insert word count at end of the document

[rgheck]

On 04/04/2010 03:16 PM, Kevin Li wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of the
document (perhaps like a variable)?

   
Not really. I suppose that the Info inset could be adapted to this 
purpose---it's basically used to display things LyX knows about---but at 
present it isn't.


rh

Re: Insert word count at end of the document

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 04 April 2010 15:16:06 Kevin Li wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of
  the document (perhaps like a variable)?
 
 
 Thanks, Kevin.
 

Certainly, if you're willing to use a script to generate the document. Have 
something like this in the document prefix:

wordcount=32123

Then at the very end, put this ERT:

\wordcount

Then have a script that converts to text, counts the words via wc, then uses 
sed to change the wordcount=32123 line, then converts to dvi via latex, and 
converts to ps via dvips, then converts to pdf via ps2pdf.

I do stuff like this all the time. This is how my eBook personalization 
scripts work.

SteeT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Insert word count at end of the document

[Kevin Li]

Hi,

Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of the
document (perhaps like a variable)?


Thanks, Kevin.

Re: Insert word count at end of the document

[rgheck]

On 04/04/2010 03:16 PM, Kevin Li wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of the
document (perhaps like a variable)?

   
Not really. I suppose that the Info inset could be adapted to this 
purpose---it's basically used to display things LyX knows about---but at 
present it isn't.


rh

Re: Insert word count at end of the document

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 04 April 2010 15:16:06 Kevin Li wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of
  the document (perhaps like a variable)?
 
 
 Thanks, Kevin.
 

Certainly, if you're willing to use a script to generate the document. Have 
something like this in the document prefix:

wordcount=32123

Then at the very end, put this ERT:

\wordcount

Then have a script that converts to text, counts the words via wc, then uses 
sed to change the wordcount=32123 line, then converts to dvi via latex, and 
converts to ps via dvips, then converts to pdf via ps2pdf.

I do stuff like this all the time. This is how my eBook personalization 
scripts work.

SteeT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Insert word count at end of the document

[Kevin Li]

Hi,

Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of the
document (perhaps like a variable)?


Thanks, Kevin.

Re: Insert word count at end of the document

[rgheck]

On 04/04/2010 03:16 PM, Kevin Li wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of the
document (perhaps like a variable)?

   
Not really. I suppose that the Info inset could be adapted to this 
purpose---it's basically used to display things LyX knows about---but at 
present it isn't.


rh

Re: Insert word count at end of the document

[Steve Litt]

On Sunday 04 April 2010 15:16:06 Kevin Li wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there a way to make the word count automatically appear at the end of
>  the document (perhaps like a variable)?
> 
> 
> Thanks, Kevin.
> 

Certainly, if you're willing to use a script to generate the document. Have 
something like this in the document prefix:

wordcount=32123

Then at the very end, put this ERT:

\wordcount

Then have a script that converts to text, counts the words via wc, then uses 
sed to change the wordcount=32123 line, then converts to dvi via latex, and 
converts to ps via dvips, then converts to pdf via ps2pdf.

I do stuff like this all the time. This is how my eBook personalization 
scripts work.

SteeT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

feature that may be useful - auto word count

[Paul Sutton]

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While typing if i want to add a word count I can highlight the text i
want counted and use tools - statistics, then put the result in a margin
note manually.

what would be useful is to be able to define a block of text, say
paragraph, hold the page count in a variable, then inside a margin note
(or similar) have it auto update the word count.

perhaps have a total word count appear in the status bar too for the
whole document.  some way of monitoring things in real time.

Just thought it would be handy,  not sure how it would work i can insert
new page,  so perhaps have insert block start / end,

perhaps then at the end of the document, have a way of inserting word
count which is then a sum of all the variables, added to gethre, so
block1+block2= total word count

any ideas

Paul

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feature that may be useful - auto word count

[Paul Sutton]

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While typing if i want to add a word count I can highlight the text i
want counted and use tools - statistics, then put the result in a margin
note manually.

what would be useful is to be able to define a block of text, say
paragraph, hold the page count in a variable, then inside a margin note
(or similar) have it auto update the word count.

perhaps have a total word count appear in the status bar too for the
whole document.  some way of monitoring things in real time.

Just thought it would be handy,  not sure how it would work i can insert
new page,  so perhaps have insert block start / end,

perhaps then at the end of the document, have a way of inserting word
count which is then a sum of all the variables, added to gethre, so
block1+block2= total word count

any ideas

Paul

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www.zleap.net

Ubuntu 9.10 is out : Visit www.ubuntu.com for details
The January meeting of the DCLUG will now take place on SUNDAY 10th
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feature that may be useful - auto word count

[Paul Sutton]

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Hash: SHA1

While typing if i want to add a word count I can highlight the text i
want counted and use tools - statistics, then put the result in a margin
note manually.

what would be useful is to be able to define a block of text, say
paragraph, hold the page count in a variable, then inside a margin note
(or similar) have it auto update the word count.

perhaps have a total word count appear in the status bar too for the
whole document.  some way of monitoring things in real time.

Just thought it would be handy,  not sure how it would work i can insert
new page,  so perhaps have insert block start / end,

perhaps then at the end of the document, have a way of inserting word
count which is then a sum of all the variables, added to gethre, so
block1+block2= total word count

any ideas

Paul

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www.zleap.net

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The January meeting of the DCLUG will now take place on SUNDAY 10th
January, 3pm at the shoreline in Paignton.
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Word Count

[B. Bogart]

Hello all,

I'm working on a long document which has a word limit. My current draft
has many notes and grayed out text as the text develops.

Unfortunately the contents of my notes and grayed out text are included
in the word count, so I cannot get a good indication of how long the
draft actually is.

Is there any way around this? (short of going through the document and
deleting the notes?

In the future perhaps a checkbox in the word-count popup that could
toggle between counting or not counting the contents of notes would be a
useful addition.

Thanks,
B. Bogart

Re: Word Count

[Pavel Sanda]

 Is there any way around this? (short of going through the document and
 deleting the notes?

in case of lyx comments export to text file and count the words
by eg wc -w file.txt . this wont help you with greyed out text though.

 In the future perhaps a checkbox in the word-count popup that could
 toggle between counting or not counting the contents of notes would be a
 useful addition.

not requested for the first time. all patches are welcome :)

pavel

Word Count

[B. Bogart]

Hello all,

I'm working on a long document which has a word limit. My current draft
has many notes and grayed out text as the text develops.

Unfortunately the contents of my notes and grayed out text are included
in the word count, so I cannot get a good indication of how long the
draft actually is.

Is there any way around this? (short of going through the document and
deleting the notes?

In the future perhaps a checkbox in the word-count popup that could
toggle between counting or not counting the contents of notes would be a
useful addition.

Thanks,
B. Bogart

Re: Word Count

[Pavel Sanda]

 Is there any way around this? (short of going through the document and
 deleting the notes?

in case of lyx comments export to text file and count the words
by eg wc -w file.txt . this wont help you with greyed out text though.

 In the future perhaps a checkbox in the word-count popup that could
 toggle between counting or not counting the contents of notes would be a
 useful addition.

not requested for the first time. all patches are welcome :)

pavel

Word Count

[B. Bogart]

Hello all,

I'm working on a long document which has a word limit. My current draft
has many notes and grayed out text as the text develops.

Unfortunately the contents of my notes and grayed out text are included
in the word count, so I cannot get a good indication of how long the
draft actually is.

Is there any way around this? (short of going through the document and
deleting the notes?

In the future perhaps a checkbox in the word-count popup that could
toggle between counting or not counting the contents of notes would be a
useful addition.

Thanks,
B. Bogart

Re: Word Count

[Pavel Sanda]

> Is there any way around this? (short of going through the document and
> deleting the notes?

in case of lyx comments export to text file and count the words
by eg wc -w file.txt . this wont help you with greyed out text though.

> In the future perhaps a checkbox in the word-count popup that could
> toggle between counting or not counting the contents of notes would be a
> useful addition.

not requested for the first time. all patches are welcome :)

pavel

Word count without spellcheck -- here's how

[Steve Litt]

Use this shellscript:

lyx --export text $1.lyx
wc $1.txt

HTH

SteveT

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Word count without spellcheck -- here's how

[Steve Litt]

Use this shellscript:

lyx --export text $1.lyx
wc $1.txt

HTH

SteveT

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   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
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   * Troubleshooters.Com
   * http://www.troubleshooters.com

Word count without spellcheck -- here's how

[Steve Litt]

Use this shellscript:

lyx --export text $1.lyx
wc $1.txt

HTH

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: 
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   * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
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Re: word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
still very primitive. Sometimes you do not want to spell check the document,
or you just want to count the words in a paragraph/abstract. I would really
like to see this feature in forthcoming versions of lyx if possible.

Anyway, thanks for your prompt responses.

Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

- Original Message -
From: Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: word count


 On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 19:46, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
  Hi!
 
  Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found
this option, though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very
difficult to implement...I hope.

 Spellcheck the article and it will reveal a good guess at the conclusion
 of said process.
 --
 Rob Davies
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 'To converse is one strategy that separates us, from the Apes.'

Re: word count

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
 still very primitive.

So how many words are in

 If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
 you're wrong.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have,
nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson or B. Franklin or both...)

Re: word count

[Raphael Clifford]

Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 

Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
still very primitive.
   

So how many words are in

If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
you're wrong.
Andre'

 

I don't think he meant primitive as in easy to perform. If I 
understood correctly, he meant primitive as in a core operation that 
many people will want to perform on their document. That is as opposed 
to replacing the word 'picnic' with the german for 'sandwich' and 
highlighting it in blue, for example. That might well be described as 
non-primitive :)

Cheers,
Raphael

Re: word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Yep...that is exactly what I meant. As Andre pointed out, the operation of
couting words, from a latex point of view, is not easy, but I think this
feature is something many people have to do when writting articles, theses
or other documents.


Alberto
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50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

- Original Message -
From: Raphael Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: word count


 Andre Poenitz wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 
 
 Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality
is
 still very primitive.
 
 
 
 So how many words are in
 
  If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
  you're wrong.
 
 Andre'
 
 
 
 I don't think he meant primitive as in easy to perform. If I
 understood correctly, he meant primitive as in a core operation that
 many people will want to perform on their document. That is as opposed
 to replacing the word 'picnic' with the german for 'sandwich' and
 highlighting it in blue, for example. That might well be described as
 non-primitive :)

 Cheers,
 Raphael

Re: word count

[Robin Turner]

Alberto Sanchez wrote:
Yep...that is exactly what I meant. As Andre pointed out, the operation of
couting words, from a latex point of view, is not easy, but I think this
feature is something many people have to do when writting articles, theses
or other documents.
If someone were to write a word count feature, something that would make 
it really nice would be the ability to count words in only one part of a 
document. Very useful for those which section to I need to cut in order 
to fit in the maximum wordcount? moments!

Robin

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Re: word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
still very primitive. Sometimes you do not want to spell check the document,
or you just want to count the words in a paragraph/abstract. I would really
like to see this feature in forthcoming versions of lyx if possible.

Anyway, thanks for your prompt responses.

Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

- Original Message -
From: Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: word count


 On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 19:46, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
  Hi!
 
  Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found
this option, though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very
difficult to implement...I hope.

 Spellcheck the article and it will reveal a good guess at the conclusion
 of said process.
 --
 Rob Davies
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 'To converse is one strategy that separates us, from the Apes.'

Re: word count

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
 still very primitive.

So how many words are in

 If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
 you're wrong.

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have,
nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson or B. Franklin or both...)

Re: word count

[Raphael Clifford]

Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 

Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
still very primitive.
   

So how many words are in

If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
you're wrong.
Andre'

 

I don't think he meant primitive as in easy to perform. If I 
understood correctly, he meant primitive as in a core operation that 
many people will want to perform on their document. That is as opposed 
to replacing the word 'picnic' with the german for 'sandwich' and 
highlighting it in blue, for example. That might well be described as 
non-primitive :)

Cheers,
Raphael

Re: word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Yep...that is exactly what I meant. As Andre pointed out, the operation of
couting words, from a latex point of view, is not easy, but I think this
feature is something many people have to do when writting articles, theses
or other documents.


Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

- Original Message -
From: Raphael Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: word count


 Andre Poenitz wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 
 
 Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality
is
 still very primitive.
 
 
 
 So how many words are in
 
  If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
  you're wrong.
 
 Andre'
 
 
 
 I don't think he meant primitive as in easy to perform. If I
 understood correctly, he meant primitive as in a core operation that
 many people will want to perform on their document. That is as opposed
 to replacing the word 'picnic' with the german for 'sandwich' and
 highlighting it in blue, for example. That might well be described as
 non-primitive :)

 Cheers,
 Raphael

Re: word count

[Robin Turner]

Alberto Sanchez wrote:
Yep...that is exactly what I meant. As Andre pointed out, the operation of
couting words, from a latex point of view, is not easy, but I think this
feature is something many people have to do when writting articles, theses
or other documents.
If someone were to write a word count feature, something that would make 
it really nice would be the ability to count words in only one part of a 
document. Very useful for those which section to I need to cut in order 
to fit in the maximum wordcount? moments!

Robin

--
A strategy is still being formulated.
Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin

Re: word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
still very primitive. Sometimes you do not want to spell check the document,
or you just want to count the words in a paragraph/abstract. I would really
like to see this feature in forthcoming versions of lyx if possible.

Anyway, thanks for your prompt responses.

Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

- Original Message -
From: "Rob Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: word count


> On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 19:46, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found
this option, though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very
difficult to implement...I hope.
>
> Spellcheck the article and it will reveal a good guess at the conclusion
> of said process.
> --
> Rob Davies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 'To converse is one strategy that separates us, from the Apes.'
>

Re: word count

[Andre Poenitz]

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
> Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
> still very primitive.

So how many words are in

 "If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
 you're wrong."

Andre'

-- 
Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have,
nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson or B. Franklin or both...)

Re: word count

[Raphael Clifford]

Andre Poenitz wrote:

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 

Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality is
still very primitive.
   

So how many words are in

"If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
you're wrong."
Andre'

 

I don't think he meant "primitive" as in "easy to perform". If I 
understood correctly, he meant "primitive" as in "a core operation that 
many people will want to perform on their document". That is as opposed 
to "replacing the word 'picnic' with the german for 'sandwich' and 
highlighting it in blue", for example. That might well be described as 
"non-primitive" :)

Cheers,
Raphael

Re: word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Yep...that is exactly what I meant. As Andre pointed out, the operation of
couting words, from a latex point of view, is not easy, but I think this
feature is something many people have to do when writting articles, theses
or other documents.


Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

- Original Message -
From: "Raphael Clifford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: word count


> Andre Poenitz wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:16:47AM +0100, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Thanks for all your responses, though I still think this functionality
is
> >>still very primitive.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >So how many words are in
> >
> > "If you think the $n^\mathrm{th}$ derivative of $e^x$ is $exp x + sin x$
> > you're wrong."
> >
> >Andre'
> >
> >
> >
> I don't think he meant "primitive" as in "easy to perform". If I
> understood correctly, he meant "primitive" as in "a core operation that
> many people will want to perform on their document". That is as opposed
> to "replacing the word 'picnic' with the german for 'sandwich' and
> highlighting it in blue", for example. That might well be described as
> "non-primitive" :)
>
> Cheers,
> Raphael
>
>

Re: word count

[Robin Turner]

Alberto Sanchez wrote:
Yep...that is exactly what I meant. As Andre pointed out, the operation of
couting words, from a latex point of view, is not easy, but I think this
feature is something many people have to do when writting articles, theses
or other documents.
If someone were to write a word count feature, something that would make 
it really nice would be the ability to count words in only one part of a 
document. Very useful for those "which section to I need to cut in order 
to fit in the maximum wordcount?" moments!

Robin

--
"A strategy is still being formulated."
Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey
www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin

word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Hi!

Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
hope.

Regards


Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

Re: word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Alberto Sanchez wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
 though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
 hope.

See FAQ, here's an online 
version:
http://ev-en.org/wikis/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ6#line51

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
  though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
  hope.
 
 See FAQ, here's an online 
 version:

Typo (I'm on Windows/Pine here, can't paste properly). The correct URI 
should be:

http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ6#line51

sigh.

/Christian

PS. Thanks Raphael for pointing this out. DS
-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: word count

[Rob Davies]

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 19:46, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
 though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
 hope.

Spellcheck the article and it will reveal a good guess at the conclusion
of said process.
-- 
Rob Davies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

'To converse is one strategy that separates us, from the Apes.'

word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Hi!

Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
hope.

Regards


Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

Re: word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Alberto Sanchez wrote:

 Hi!
 
 Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
 though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
 hope.

See FAQ, here's an online 
version:
http://ev-en.org/wikis/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ6#line51

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
  though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
  hope.
 
 See FAQ, here's an online 
 version:

Typo (I'm on Windows/Pine here, can't paste properly). The correct URI 
should be:

http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ6#line51

sigh.

/Christian

PS. Thanks Raphael for pointing this out. DS
-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: word count

[Rob Davies]

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 19:46, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
 though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
 hope.

Spellcheck the article and it will reveal a good guess at the conclusion
of said process.
-- 
Rob Davies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

'To converse is one strategy that separates us, from the Apes.'

word count

[Alberto Sanchez]

Hi!

Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
hope.

Regards


Alberto
---
Alberto Sánchez
Industrial Control Centre
50 George Street - Level 7
Glasgow, G1 1QE
Scotland - UK

Tel: +44 (141) 5484202
Fax: +44 (141) 5484203

Re: word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Alberto Sanchez wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
> though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
> hope.

See FAQ, here's an online 
version:
http://ev-en.org/wikis/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ6#line51

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
> > though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
> > hope.
> 
> See FAQ, here's an online 
> version:

Typo (I'm on Windows/Pine here, can't paste properly). The correct URI 
should be:

http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ6#line51

sigh.

/Christian

PS. Thanks Raphael for pointing this out. DS
-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: word count

[Rob Davies]

On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 19:46, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Does anybody knows how to count words in Lyx 1.3.2? I have not found this option, 
> though it might be a good add-on, and probably not very difficult to implement...I 
> hope.

Spellcheck the article and it will reveal a good guess at the conclusion
of said process.
-- 
Rob Davies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

'To converse is one strategy that separates us, from the Apes.'

Word count

[Jose]

Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

thanks

Jose

Re: Word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:

 Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?
 
 thanks
 
 Jose
See the FAQ, 
http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Word count

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Christian On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:
 Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?
 
 thanks
 
 Jose
Christian See the FAQ,
Christian http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

I do not know how relevant and/or useful it is, but the following
package appeared recently on CTAN.

JMarc

---
From: Jim Hefferon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New CTAN material: latexcount
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sent: 2 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes, 9 seconds ago

A new package has been installed at the tug.ctan.org node of 
CTAN and should make its way to your favorite mirror soon. 

Thanks for the upload,
Jim Hefferon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

==

The following information was provided by our fellow contributor.

Name of contribution: latexcount
Author's name: P.D. Magnus
Location on CTAN: support/misc
Summary description: Perl script generates word count of LaTeX documents
License type: lppl

Announcement text given by the contribution's author:
- - --
The latexcount script gives a reasonably accurate count of the number of 
words in the main text of an article, the number of words in footnotes, and 
the number of words total. The list of tags that don't get counted can be 
added to as needed.
- - --

Re: Word count

[Jose]

Hi Christian, thank you very much.

Jose

Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:

 

Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

thanks

Jose
   

See the FAQ, 
http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

/Christian

 

Re: Word count

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:14:57AM -0600, Jose wrote:
 Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

Spellcheck. Or Ascii output followed by wc on the file (if it's large)?

Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca

Re: Word count

[Ronald Florence]

Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:14:57AM -0600, Jose wrote:
  Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

Click File - Export - Custom - Ascii, then supply the command name
`wc | xmessage -file -' and you'll get a popup with the line, word,
and character counts.
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com

Word count

[Jose]

Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

thanks

Jose

Re: Word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:

 Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?
 
 thanks
 
 Jose
See the FAQ, 
http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Word count

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Christian On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:
 Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?
 
 thanks
 
 Jose
Christian See the FAQ,
Christian http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

I do not know how relevant and/or useful it is, but the following
package appeared recently on CTAN.

JMarc

---
From: Jim Hefferon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New CTAN material: latexcount
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sent: 2 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes, 9 seconds ago

A new package has been installed at the tug.ctan.org node of 
CTAN and should make its way to your favorite mirror soon. 

Thanks for the upload,
Jim Hefferon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

==

The following information was provided by our fellow contributor.

Name of contribution: latexcount
Author's name: P.D. Magnus
Location on CTAN: support/misc
Summary description: Perl script generates word count of LaTeX documents
License type: lppl

Announcement text given by the contribution's author:
- - --
The latexcount script gives a reasonably accurate count of the number of 
words in the main text of an article, the number of words in footnotes, and 
the number of words total. The list of tags that don't get counted can be 
added to as needed.
- - --

Re: Word count

[Jose]

Hi Christian, thank you very much.

Jose

Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:

 

Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

thanks

Jose
   

See the FAQ, 
http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

/Christian

 

Re: Word count

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:14:57AM -0600, Jose wrote:
 Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

Spellcheck. Or Ascii output followed by wc on the file (if it's large)?

Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca

Re: Word count

[Ronald Florence]

Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:14:57AM -0600, Jose wrote:
  Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

Click File - Export - Custom - Ascii, then supply the command name
`wc | xmessage -file -' and you'll get a popup with the line, word,
and character counts.
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com

Word count

[Jose]

Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

thanks

Jose

Re: Word count

[Christian Ridderström]

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:

> Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Jose
See the FAQ, 
http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

/Christian

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr

Re: Word count

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

>>>>> "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Christian> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:
>> Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Jose
Christian> See the FAQ,
Christian> http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

I do not know how relevant and/or useful it is, but the following
package appeared recently on CTAN.

JMarc

---
From: Jim Hefferon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New CTAN material: latexcount
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sent: 2 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes, 9 seconds ago

A new package has been installed at the tug.ctan.org node of 
CTAN and should make its way to your favorite mirror soon. 

Thanks for the upload,
Jim Hefferon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

==

The following information was provided by our fellow contributor.

Name of contribution: latexcount
Author's name: P.D. Magnus
Location on CTAN: support/misc
Summary description: Perl script generates word count of LaTeX documents
License type: lppl

Announcement text given by the contribution's author:
- - --
The latexcount script gives a reasonably accurate count of the number of 
words in the main text of an article, the number of words in footnotes, and 
the number of words total. The list of tags that don't get counted can be 
added to as needed.
- - --

Re: Word count

[Jose]

Hi Christian, thank you very much.

Jose

Christian Ridderström wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jose wrote:

 

Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

thanks

Jose
   

See the FAQ, 
http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxFAQ?action=show#line51

/Christian

 

Re: Word count

[Kenward Vaughan]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:14:57AM -0600, Jose wrote:
> Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

Spellcheck. Or Ascii output followed by wc on the file (if it's large)?

Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca

Re: Word count

[Ronald Florence]

Kenward Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:14:57AM -0600, Jose wrote:
> > Hi, all is there a way to count words on lyx?

Click File -> Export -> Custom -> Ascii, then supply the command name
`wc | xmessage -file -' and you'll get a popup with the line, word,
and character counts.
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com

Re: Word count ;-)

[Robin Turner]

On Tuesday 14 May 2002 09:52, Martin Vermeer wrote:
 Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice::

   http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT
-SWtbovrmode=1#talkback_area

 We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden:
 custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

The spellcheck also works as a word count.

 Should this be provided more explicitly? 

Yes, if only to save time and prove to the skeptics that LyX can 
count!

Robin

-- 
Bravo Epictetus! - Epictetus

Robin Turner
IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin

Word count ;-)

[Martin Vermeer]

Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice:: 


http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT-SWtbovrmode=1#talkback_area

We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden: 
custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

Should this be provided more explicitly? And how hard 
is it to export the select buffer instead of the 
whole document?

Martin




msg19262/pgp0.pgp
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Re: Word count ;-)

[Robin Turner]

On Tuesday 14 May 2002 09:52, Martin Vermeer wrote:
 Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice::

   http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT
-SWtbovrmode=1#talkback_area

 We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden:
 custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

The spellcheck also works as a word count.

 Should this be provided more explicitly? 

Yes, if only to save time and prove to the skeptics that LyX can 
count!

Robin

-- 
Bravo Epictetus! - Epictetus

Robin Turner
IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin

Word count ;-)

[Martin Vermeer]

Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice:: 


http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT-SWtbovrmode=1#talkback_area

We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden: 
custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

Should this be provided more explicitly? And how hard 
is it to export the select buffer instead of the 
whole document?

Martin




msg19262/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: Word count ;-)

[Robin Turner]

On Tuesday 14 May 2002 09:52, Martin Vermeer wrote:
> Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice::
>
>   http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT
>-SW=1#talkback_area
>
> We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden:
> custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

The spellcheck also works as a word count.

> Should this be provided more explicitly? 

Yes, if only to save time and prove to the skeptics that LyX can 
count!

Robin

-- 
"Bravo Epictetus!" - Epictetus

Robin Turner
IDMYO, Bilkent Universitesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin

Word count ;-)

[Martin Vermeer]

Read the comments here about word count in OpenOffice:: 


http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-05-13-014-26-RV-DT-SW=1#talkback_area

We have a word count function too, somewhat hidden: 
custom export to ASCII defining the command as wc -w.

Should this be provided more explicitly? And how hard 
is it to export the select buffer instead of the 
whole document?

Martin




msg19262/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature

RE: word count

[Reuter, Joseph]

Kayvan A Sylvan wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:46:38PM -0500, Mark Hansel wrote:
 
  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/
  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/deTeX-2.6.README
  
  (tar.gz here): http://www.funet.fi/pub/Linux/util/TeX/
  
  However, this does not do what you want. (My interest was 
 piqued by Matej
  Cepel's response.) The program strips latex commands and all the '\'
  characters, but does not stip meta information, as required for an
  accurate word count. (Maybe there a command line options 
 that get that job
  done and maybe it does the right thing with a pure latex 
 file. But it does
  not do the right thing with a lyx file.)
 
 Of course. It's detex, not deLyX.
 
 Proper operation would be to export to LaTeX and then run detex.
 

Lyx 1.1.6 has the operation File-export-ASCII. Why not do that and then
use wc on the resulting file?

Joe

RE: word count

[Mark Hansel]

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Reuter, Joseph wrote:
Kayvan A Sylvan wrote:
 
 Of course. It's detex, not deLyX.

Lyx 1.1.6 has the operation File-export-ASCII. Why not do that and then
use wc on the resulting file?

OK: This would be perfect if you could pipe the output from lyx to wc. I
prefer pipes to files for operations like this and I don't find a flag to
force output to standard output. So, you have to do something like the
following.

path, if necessarylyx --export text file.lyx
wc flags file.txt
rm file.txt 

If, like me, you have aliased lyx for geometry and to force share a shared
color map, you must provide the entire path.  The grep approach (which
requires some knowledge of the lyx file format) is much faster. However,
both are fast and probably fast enough. (The difference is between
fractions of a second a couple of seconds on an alpha LX164. YMMV)

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RE: word count

[Reuter, Joseph]

Kayvan A Sylvan wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:46:38PM -0500, Mark Hansel wrote:
 
  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/
  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/deTeX-2.6.README
  
  (tar.gz here): http://www.funet.fi/pub/Linux/util/TeX/
  
  However, this does not do what you want. (My interest was 
 piqued by Matej
  Cepel's response.) The program strips latex commands and all the '\'
  characters, but does not stip meta information, as required for an
  accurate word count. (Maybe there a command line options 
 that get that job
  done and maybe it does the right thing with a pure latex 
 file. But it does
  not do the right thing with a lyx file.)
 
 Of course. It's detex, not deLyX.
 
 Proper operation would be to export to LaTeX and then run detex.
 

Lyx 1.1.6 has the operation File-export-ASCII. Why not do that and then
use wc on the resulting file?

Joe

RE: word count

[Mark Hansel]

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Reuter, Joseph wrote:
Kayvan A Sylvan wrote:
 
 Of course. It's detex, not deLyX.

Lyx 1.1.6 has the operation File-export-ASCII. Why not do that and then
use wc on the resulting file?

OK: This would be perfect if you could pipe the output from lyx to wc. I
prefer pipes to files for operations like this and I don't find a flag to
force output to standard output. So, you have to do something like the
following.

path, if necessarylyx --export text file.lyx
wc flags file.txt
rm file.txt 

If, like me, you have aliased lyx for geometry and to force share a shared
color map, you must provide the entire path.  The grep approach (which
requires some knowledge of the lyx file format) is much faster. However,
both are fast and probably fast enough. (The difference is between
fractions of a second a couple of seconds on an alpha LX164. YMMV)

-- 
Mark Hansel
PO Box 41
Minnesota State University Moorhead
Moorhead, MN 56563
ph: 218-236-2039 fax: 218-236-2593
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu

RE: word count

[Reuter, Joseph]

Kayvan A Sylvan wrote:
> 
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:46:38PM -0500, Mark Hansel wrote:
> 
> > ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/
> > ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/deTeX-2.6.README
> > 
> > (tar.gz here): http://www.funet.fi/pub/Linux/util/TeX/
> > 
> > However, this does not do what you want. (My interest was 
> piqued by Matej
> > Cepel's response.) The program strips latex commands and all the '\'
> > characters, but does not stip meta information, as required for an
> > accurate word count. (Maybe there a command line options 
> that get that job
> > done and maybe it does the right thing with a pure latex 
> file. But it does
> > not do the right thing with a lyx file.)
> 
> Of course. It's detex, not deLyX.
> 
> Proper operation would be to export to LaTeX and then run detex.
> 

Lyx 1.1.6 has the operation File->export->ASCII. Why not do that and then
use wc on the resulting file?

Joe

RE: word count

[Mark Hansel]

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Reuter, Joseph wrote:
>Kayvan A Sylvan wrote:
>> 
>> Of course. It's detex, not deLyX.

>Lyx 1.1.6 has the operation File->export->ASCII. Why not do that and then
>use wc on the resulting file?

OK: This would be perfect if you could pipe the output from lyx to wc. I
prefer pipes to files for operations like this and I don't find a flag to
force output to standard output. So, you have to do something like the
following.

lyx --export text file.lyx
wc  file.txt
rm file.txt 

If, like me, you have aliased lyx for geometry and to force share a shared
color map, you must provide the entire path.  The grep approach (which
requires some knowledge of the lyx file format) is much faster. However,
both are fast and probably fast enough. (The difference is between
fractions of a second a couple of seconds on an alpha LX164. YMMV)

-- 
Mark Hansel
PO Box 41
Minnesota State University Moorhead
Moorhead, MN 56563
ph: 218-236-2039 fax: 218-236-2593
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu

word count

[R.G.N. Meegama]

Hi,

How can I count the total number of words (including the words in
figure captions) in a lyx document ?

Rgds,

Gayan

Re: word count

[Tuukka Toivonen]

On Fri, 3 May 2002, R.G.N. Meegama wrote:

How can I count the total number of words (including the words in
figure captions) in a lyx document ?

The spellchecker tells the word count after it's finished. But I don't know
if it includes captions etc., try it.

Re: word count

[Mark Hansel]

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Tuukka Toivonen wrote:

On Fri, 3 May 2002, R.G.N. Meegama wrote:

How can I count the total number of words (including the words in
figure captions) in a lyx document ?

The spellchecker tells the word count after it's finished. But I don't know
if it includes captions etc., try it.


If you are using a *nix, you can strip all the lyx and latex lines from 
the file and pipe the text only to wc. The idea is not mine and appeared 
on this list about half a year ago. I have the command in a script that is 
sometimes useful.

grep -v [\] $1|grep -v $L yx 1.1 |grep -v ^$

If you understand this, you should be able to figure out what to do with
it. Make sure to do the right thing with the $1 (replace with file name
or put it back into a script so the $1 makes sense).

If your are using windows, you have my pity.

-- 
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PO Box 41
Minnesota State University Moorhead
Moorhead, MN 56563
ph: 218-236-2039 fax: 218-236-2593
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wwwcj.mnstate.edu

Re: word count

[Matej Cepl]

On  3 May, Mark Hansel wrote:
 If you are using a *nix, you can strip all the lyx and latex
 lines from the file and pipe the text only to wc. The idea is
 not mine and appeared on this list about half a year ago. I
 have the command in a script that is sometimes useful.
 
 grep -v [\] $1|grep -v $L yx 1.1 |grep -v ^$
 
 If you understand this, you should be able to figure out what
 to do with it. Make sure to do the right thing with the $1
 (replace with file name or put it back into a script so the $1
 makes sense).
 
 If your are using windows, you have my pity.

There is a program detex, which does basically the same as above
oneliner (only in much more sophisticated manner), so you can do

detex docname.tex | wc -w

(yes, Virginia, both commands DO exist for both *nix and M$-*
systems).

Matej

Re: word count

[Steve Litt]

On Friday 03 May 2002 09:46 am, Matej Cepl wrote:
 On  3 May, Mark Hansel wrote:
  If you are using a *nix, you can strip all the lyx and latex
  lines from the file and pipe the text only to wc. The idea is
  not mine and appeared on this list about half a year ago. I
  have the command in a script that is sometimes useful.
 
  grep -v [\] $1|grep -v $L yx 1.1 |grep -v ^$
 
  If you understand this, you should be able to figure out what
  to do with it. Make sure to do the right thing with the $1
  (replace with file name or put it back into a script so the $1
  makes sense).
 
  If your are using windows, you have my pity.

 There is a program detex, which does basically the same as above
 oneliner (only in much more sophisticated manner), so you can do

 detex docname.tex | wc -w

 (yes, Virginia, both commands DO exist for both *nix and M$-*
 systems).

Where would one get detex for Linux?

Steve
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Re: word count

[Matej Cepl]

On  3 May, Steve Litt wrote:
 (yes, Virginia, both commands DO exist for both *nix and M$-*
 systems).
 
 Where would one get detex for Linux?

go to http://www.ctan.org and search for detex. You will get a
tarball, which you can then compile (it is really very simple).

Matej

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Re: word count

[Mark Hansel]

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Steve Litt wrote:

On Friday 03 May 2002 09:46 am, Matej Cepl wrote:
 On  3 May, Mark Hansel wrote:
  If you are using a *nix, you can strip all the lyx and latex
  lines from the file and pipe the text only to wc. The idea is
  not mine and appeared on this list about half a year ago. I
  have the command in a script that is sometimes useful.
 
  grep -v [\] $1|grep -v $L yx 1.1 |grep -v ^$
 
 There is a program detex, which does basically the same as above
 oneliner (only in much more sophisticated manner), so you can do

 detex docname.tex | wc -w

 (yes, Virginia, both commands DO exist for both *nix and M$-*
 systems).

Where would one get detex for Linux?

Try a latex repository. Google claims 2700 hits on detex+linux.

ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/deTeX-2.6.README

(tar.gz here): http://www.funet.fi/pub/Linux/util/TeX/

However, this does not do what you want. (My interest was piqued by Matej
Cepel's response.) The program strips latex commands and all the '\'
characters, but does not stip meta information, as required for an
accurate word count. (Maybe there a command line options that get that job
done and maybe it does the right thing with a pure latex file. But it does
not do the right thing with a lyx file.)

Here is the top of the output from a large document I am working on. 
Clearly useless for your purpose.

#LyX 1.1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
218
book
_preamble
authordate1-4

1.0
_preamble
english
latin1
default
default
default
single 
Default
a4
_geometry 0
_amsmath 0
portrait
2
2


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Re: word count

[Kayvan A. Sylvan]

On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:46:38PM -0500, Mark Hansel wrote:

 ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/
 ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/tex/deTeX-2.6.README
 
 (tar.gz here): http://www.funet.fi/pub/Linux/util/TeX/
 
 However, this does not do what you want. (My interest was piqued by Matej
 Cepel's response.) The program strips latex commands and all the '\'
 characters, but does not stip meta information, as required for an
 accurate word count. (Maybe there a command line options that get that job
 done and maybe it does the right thing with a pure latex file. But it does
 not do the right thing with a lyx file.)

Of course. It's detex, not deLyX.

Proper operation would be to export to LaTeX and then run detex.

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word count

[R.G.N. Meegama]

Hi,

How can I count the total number of words (including the words in
figure captions) in a lyx document ?

Rgds,

Gayan

Re: word count

[Tuukka Toivonen]

On Fri, 3 May 2002, R.G.N. Meegama wrote:

How can I count the total number of words (including the words in
figure captions) in a lyx document ?

The spellchecker tells the word count after it's finished. But I don't know
if it includes captions etc., try it.