Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
And https://texfaq.org/FAQ-minxampl el On 15/12/2021 14:37, Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users wrote: https://ctan.org/pkg/mwe el On 14/12/2021 22:05, Steve Litt via lyx-users wrote: Hi all, Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to incorporate. Can anyone think of a better name for the tiniest file that exhibits a symptom? Thanks, SteveT [...] -- To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el' -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
https://ctan.org/pkg/mwe el On 14/12/2021 22:05, Steve Litt via lyx-users wrote: Hi all, Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to incorporate. Can anyone think of a better name for the tiniest file that exhibits a symptom? Thanks, SteveT [...] -- To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el' -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
It’s not perfect, but I think it is worth pointing out that this is not Lyx terminology, I have come across it in many communities. I note it has its own Wikipedia entry: In computing, a minimal working example (abbreviated MWE) is a collection of source code and other data files which allow a bug or problem to be demonstrated and reproduced. The important feature of a minimal working example is that it is as small and as simple as possible, such that it is just sufficient to demonstrate the problem, but without any additional complexity or dependencies which will make resolution harder. A minimal working example may also be referred to as minimal reproducible example or short self-contained correct example. -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
It's working to demonstrate the problem. I don't see a significant problem with it. Thanks, Ben On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 3:32 PM Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users < lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> wrote: > Le 14/12/2021 à 21:05, Steve Litt via lyx-users a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example > > that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* > > Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not > > "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to > > mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to > > incorporate. > > In my view the problem is the acronym itself. I see it used directly and > it is unlikely that a poor lost LyX user will know what it means. I find > this jargon intimidating. > > JMarc > -- > lyx-users mailing list > lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
Le 14/12/2021 à 21:05, Steve Litt via lyx-users a écrit : Hi all, Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to incorporate. In my view the problem is the acronym itself. I see it used directly and it is unlikely that a poor lost LyX user will know what it means. I find this jargon intimidating. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Steve Litt via lyx-users wrote: Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Steve, However, the example is the minimal document that works at producing the error; ergo, MWE. Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
Am 14.12.21 um 21:11 schrieb Scott Kostyshak via lyx-users: On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 03:05:41PM -0500, Steve Litt via lyx-users wrote: Hi all, Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to incorporate. Can anyone think of a better name for the tiniest file that exhibits a symptom? Indeed it is confusing. What are your thoughts on "minimal example" ? Note that we have a Wiki page, although it doesn't address your question: MWE does _not_ mean a working example in the sense of a correct output. It means a minimal working one which shows the _problem_. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: I think we need a better name than "MWE"
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 03:05:41PM -0500, Steve Litt via lyx-users wrote: > Hi all, > > Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example > that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* > Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not > "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to > mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to > incorporate. > > Can anyone think of a better name for the tiniest file that exhibits a > symptom? Indeed it is confusing. What are your thoughts on "minimal example" ? Note that we have a Wiki page, although it doesn't address your question: https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MinimalExample Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
I think we need a better name than "MWE"
Hi all, Here on the LyX list we use the word MWE to mean the simplest example that still exhibits the symptom. But MWE stands for Minimum *Working* Example, and by definition, the file that exhibits the symptom does not "work". Also, I think I've seen MWE used on various LaTeX venues to mean the smallest file that works, for a specific feature you want to incorporate. Can anyone think of a better name for the tiniest file that exhibits a symptom? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
