Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing + bits and pieces
On 4/13/24 03:00, Bernt Lie wrote: So far,... * I greatly appreciate that you have not changed the main parts of the user interface. I hate it when developers come out with a new version of a tool, and the user doesn't recognize where the menus are, etc. I think it's fair to say that we do, too. It's our policy to change such things only when there is a clear reason to do so, and consensus among the developers, at least. * These are the main things I have had time to notice in some 3 days, while converting a large portion of my key documents from v. 2.3.x to v. 2.4 -- As a person who combines text with loads of math and computer code... * The Program Listing settings --- --> Do I set them individually every time I insert a program listing? --> Or are they document settings, so that if I change one setting (e.g., font setting), then this takes precedence for the entire document? You can make global settings in Document> Settings> Listings. Also, I'm using a couple of computer languages that are not supported by Program Listing... * Modelica (for specifying mathematical models) * Julia Is there an ASCII file where it is possible to add specifications for more computer languages so that they show up in the Program Listing settings? Unfortunately, that is hard-coded. It would make a lot of sense for it not to be, but be configurable, but that would take some doing (though I doubt it would be hard to do). But it would be a format change, so not doable until 2.5. But please do file an enhancement request if you wish. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing + bits and pieces
A difference - perhaps -- between a missing Abstract label and the Chapter label in *LyX* is that sections headings are quite big compared to the standard text, so it is easy to see the difference. While the abstract text font is only marginally smaller than the standard text font, so it is more difficult to see what it is. *If* one sets "abstract=on" to enforce "Abstract" to be printed in the PDF file, it would perhaps be natural if this text also shows up in LyX. -- Anyways, this is not a major problem -- I can always switch to the standard article style. -- Thanks a lot for your great job with creating v. 2.4. I really appreciate all the work you have put into it, and look forward to start reading the manuals. Although I've used LyX for some 10 years or so, I think it will be useful to re-read the documentation to better familiarize myself with what is new. So far,... * I greatly appreciate that you have not changed the main parts of the user interface. I hate it when developers come out with a new version of a tool, and the user doesn't recognize where the menus are, etc. * I have already used the improved system for finding missing citations and broken references. * The search system looks improved. * These are the main things I have had time to notice in some 3 days, while converting a large portion of my key documents from v. 2.3.x to v. 2.4 -- As a person who combines text with loads of math and computer code... * The Program Listing settings --- --> Do I set them individually every time I insert a program listing? --> Or are they document settings, so that if I change one setting (e.g., font setting), then this takes precedence for the entire document? --> The above question is related to how to keep consistency in listings... Also, I'm using a couple of computer languages that are not supported by Program Listing... * Modelica (for specifying mathematical models) * Julia Is there an ASCII file where it is possible to add specifications for more computer languages so that they show up in the Program Listing settings? -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of Richard Kimberly Heck Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 10:02 PM To: Herbert Voss ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing On 4/12/24 12:42, Herbert Voss wrote: > Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users: >> Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, >> not in the LyX editor itself! >> >> For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX >> editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if >> the same happened when using KOMA-script. > > It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the > scrartcl class or creating an own layout file. For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading: Input stdstruct.inc Style Abstract LabelType No_Label End If we're agreed that's wrong, it's easy enough to fix. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 16:02 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading: The reason is to indicate on the output. That's intentional. For the same reason, we remove the chapter labels in KOMA layouts. -- Jürgen -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
On 4/12/24 12:42, Herbert Voss wrote: Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users: Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, not in the LyX editor itself! For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the same happened when using KOMA-script. It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the scrartcl class or creating an own layout file. For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading: Input stdstruct.inc Style Abstract LabelType No_Label End If we're agreed that's wrong, it's easy enough to fix. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users: Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, not in the LyX editor itself! For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the same happened when using KOMA-script. It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the scrartcl class or creating an own layout file. Herbert -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of José Matos Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 1:02 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote: Thanks. I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect. Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does not change how the document looks in lyx. -- José Abílio -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, José Matos wrote: So the question is if the label should be there for consistency. I am inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-) On 2.3.7.1 The word "Abstract" appears on the LyX screen when the document is scrreport (KOMA-Script Report) and on the PDF (pdflatex) but only in the body text font and left-aligned. It used to be in a section font and centered. HTH, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 12:27 + schrieb Bernt Lie: > As far as I know, KOMA is independent of LyX. So I don't understand > why inserting the label "Abstract" in the LyX *editor* can be seen as > overriding KOMA's default settings. Well, it indicates what people can expect in the output (at least by default) > At least not if the user inserts the command "abstract=on" in the > settings. That's not possible. -- Jürgen -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
As far as I know, KOMA is independent of LyX. So I don't understand why inserting the label "Abstract" in the LyX *editor* can be seen as overriding KOMA's default settings. At least not if the user inserts the command "abstract=on" in the settings. -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of Jürgen Spitzmüller Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 1:52 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 11:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx- users: > For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX > editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the > same happened when using KOMA-script. No, we don't want to override KOMA's default settings, which are well rationalized in the manual. -- Jürgen -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 11:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx- users: > For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX > editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if > the same happened when using KOMA-script. No, we don't want to override KOMA's default settings, which are well rationalized in the manual. -- Jürgen -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 09:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-
users:
> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous
> versions, I think??
No, it has been the case for KOMA since a long time (always?)
> Is this a bug?
No. See KOMA script manual, sec. 3.8 and the abstract={on,off} KOMA
script option.
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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, not in the LyX editor itself! For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the same happened when using KOMA-script. -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of José Matos Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 1:02 PM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote: > > Thanks. > > I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough > prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect. Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does not change how the document looks in lyx. -- José Abílio -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote: > > Thanks. > > I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough > prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect. Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does not change how the document looks in lyx. -- José Abílio -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Am 12.04.24 um 11:57 schrieb Bernt Lie: Thanks. I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect. no problem here ... Used File->new, then Document->Settings abd abstract=on. I have nothing in the added into the preamble. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
OK -- in 2.3.7, I did not use KOMA script article, but standard LaTeX article. And there the label shows up in my installation. The "problem" to me is that it is not just that the "label" is missing in the LyX editor, but the word "Abstract" does not show up in the pdf file either. -Original Message- From: José Matos Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 11:55 AM To: Bernt Lie ; lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:41 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote: > When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the > headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous > versions, I think?? > > Is this a bug? I tested in 2.3.x and it does not show there as well. So at least the change is not specific to lyx 2.4. If you change to the standard class then the label is there both for 2.3 and 2.4. So the question is if the label should be there for consistency. I am inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-) -- José Abílio -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Thanks. I have tried with inserting the text "abstract=on" (with and withough prepending/appending it with "), but this has no effect. [cid:image001.png@01DA8CD0.A6429AC0] -Original Message- From: lyx-users On Behalf Of Herbert Voss Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 11:50 AM To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing Am 12.04.24 um 11:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users: > When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the > headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous > versions, I think?? > > Is this a bug? Use documentclass option "abstract=on" Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:41 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote: > When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the > headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous > versions, I think?? > > Is this a bug? I tested in 2.3.x and it does not show there as well. So at least the change is not specific to lyx 2.4. If you change to the standard class then the label is there both for 2.3 and 2.4. So the question is if the label should be there for consistency. I am inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-) -- José Abílio -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
Am 12.04.24 um 11:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users: When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous versions, I think?? Is this a bug? Use documentclass option "abstract=on" Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing
When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous versions, I think?? Is this a bug? -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
