Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-04 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2010-11-02, Rob Oakes wrote:

 But, initial experiments show that it was easy to get up and running,
 and that it works with LyX 2.0 very well.  Take care with UTF
 characters, though.  I probably could have gotten it sorted out, but
 didn't really want to fuss with it.

There is an ongoing effort to unify the usage of XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX,
i.e. recent versions of fontspec and unicode-math support work in a way
you can use the same document with both engines.

My description would be along the lines: 

  Since TeXLive 2010 you can also use LuaTeX with LaTeX documents
  exported for the XeTeX engine (make sure *not* to load the xunicode
  package).

Also, documents intended for XeTeX/LuaTeX should use the polyglossia
package instead of babel for language support. AFAIK, is not yet
implemented in LyX 2.0.

Günter

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-04 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2010-11-02, Rob Oakes wrote:

 But, initial experiments show that it was easy to get up and running,
 and that it works with LyX 2.0 very well.  Take care with UTF
 characters, though.  I probably could have gotten it sorted out, but
 didn't really want to fuss with it.

There is an ongoing effort to unify the usage of XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX,
i.e. recent versions of fontspec and unicode-math support work in a way
you can use the same document with both engines.

My description would be along the lines: 

  Since TeXLive 2010 you can also use LuaTeX with LaTeX documents
  exported for the XeTeX engine (make sure *not* to load the xunicode
  package).

Also, documents intended for XeTeX/LuaTeX should use the polyglossia
package instead of babel for language support. AFAIK, is not yet
implemented in LyX 2.0.

Günter

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-04 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2010-11-02, Rob Oakes wrote:

> But, initial experiments show that it was easy to get up and running,
> and that it works with LyX 2.0 very well.  Take care with UTF
> characters, though.  I probably could have gotten it sorted out, but
> didn't really want to fuss with it.

There is an ongoing effort to "unify" the usage of XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX,
i.e. recent versions of fontspec and unicode-math support work in a way
you can use the same document with both engines.

My description would be along the lines: 

  Since TeXLive 2010 you can also use LuaTeX with LaTeX documents
  exported for the XeTeX engine (make sure *not* to load the "xunicode"
  package).

Also, documents intended for XeTeX/LuaTeX should use the "polyglossia"
package instead of "babel" for language support. AFAIK, is not yet
implemented in LyX 2.0.

Günter

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Rob Oakes wrote:
 I am currently slogging my way through a book chapter on advanced methods
 in LyX/LaTeX and just had a quick question.  Does anyone know if there is
 documentation on how to use LyX with luaTeX?  
 
 I know that it isn't officially supported, and things would probably break
 terribly, and that it might corrupt my mind and force me to sacrifice my
 first born.  But I'm kind of curious to experiment.  Has anyone spent any
 time using luaTeX from within LyX?  Care to comment on just how broken
 things were?

I tried it once, just out of interest, but LuaTeX was not very stable back 
then.

I suppose now that you can use fontspec, it's just a slight variation from the 
XeTeX setup described here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX

Of course it would be very welcome if you could document your effort on the 
wiki.

Jürgen

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-02 Thread Rob Oakes 
Thanks for the link.

I was able to get LuaTeX working with normal pdfTeX documents via following the 
instructions on the wiki (using the MacTeX 2010 distribution and LyX 2.0).  I'm 
running into problems using fontspec, though.  I think that is due to the lack 
of a fontspec database.  (Described in the fontspec2010 docs.)  To generate the 
database, you need to download and run a script.  I'll have to experiment with 
it when I have a bit more time.

But, initial experiments show that it was easy to get up and running, and that 
it works with LyX 2.0 very well.  Take care with UTF characters, though.  I 
probably could have gotten it sorted out, but didn't really want to fuss with 
it.

I will update the wiki when I get a moment.  (I'm also going to have a go with 
fontspec and see if I can get the problems sorted).

Cheers,

Rob

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Rob Oakes wrote:
 I am currently slogging my way through a book chapter on advanced methods
 in LyX/LaTeX and just had a quick question.  Does anyone know if there is
 documentation on how to use LyX with luaTeX?  
 
 I know that it isn't officially supported, and things would probably break
 terribly, and that it might corrupt my mind and force me to sacrifice my
 first born.  But I'm kind of curious to experiment.  Has anyone spent any
 time using luaTeX from within LyX?  Care to comment on just how broken
 things were?

I tried it once, just out of interest, but LuaTeX was not very stable back 
then.

I suppose now that you can use fontspec, it's just a slight variation from the 
XeTeX setup described here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX

Of course it would be very welcome if you could document your effort on the 
wiki.

Jürgen

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-02 Thread Rob Oakes 
Thanks for the link.

I was able to get LuaTeX working with normal pdfTeX documents via following the 
instructions on the wiki (using the MacTeX 2010 distribution and LyX 2.0).  I'm 
running into problems using fontspec, though.  I think that is due to the lack 
of a fontspec database.  (Described in the fontspec2010 docs.)  To generate the 
database, you need to download and run a script.  I'll have to experiment with 
it when I have a bit more time.

But, initial experiments show that it was easy to get up and running, and that 
it works with LyX 2.0 very well.  Take care with UTF characters, though.  I 
probably could have gotten it sorted out, but didn't really want to fuss with 
it.

I will update the wiki when I get a moment.  (I'm also going to have a go with 
fontspec and see if I can get the problems sorted).

Cheers,

Rob

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
Rob Oakes wrote:
> I am currently slogging my way through a book chapter on advanced methods
> in LyX/LaTeX and just had a quick question.  Does anyone know if there is
> documentation on how to use LyX with luaTeX?  
> 
> I know that it isn't officially supported, and things would probably break
> terribly, and that it might corrupt my mind and force me to sacrifice my
> first born.  But I'm kind of curious to experiment.  Has anyone spent any
> time using luaTeX from within LyX?  Care to comment on just how broken
> things were?

I tried it once, just out of interest, but LuaTeX was not very stable back 
then.

I suppose now that you can use fontspec, it's just a slight variation from the 
XeTeX setup described here:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/XeTeX

Of course it would be very welcome if you could document your effort on the 
wiki.

Jürgen

Re: LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-02 Thread Rob Oakes 
Thanks for the link.

I was able to get LuaTeX working with normal pdfTeX documents via following the 
instructions on the wiki (using the MacTeX 2010 distribution and LyX 2.0).  I'm 
running into problems using fontspec, though.  I think that is due to the lack 
of a fontspec database.  (Described in the fontspec2010 docs.)  To generate the 
database, you need to download and run a script.  I'll have to experiment with 
it when I have a bit more time.

But, initial experiments show that it was easy to get up and running, and that 
it works with LyX 2.0 very well.  Take care with UTF characters, though.  I 
probably could have gotten it sorted out, but didn't really want to fuss with 
it.

I will update the wiki when I get a moment.  (I'm also going to have a go with 
fontspec and see if I can get the problems sorted).

Cheers,

Rob

LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-01 Thread Rob Oakes 
Dear LyX Users, 

I am currently slogging my way through a book chapter on advanced methods in 
LyX/LaTeX and just had a quick question.  Does anyone know if there is 
documentation on how to use LyX with luaTeX?  

I know that it isn't officially supported, and things would probably break 
terribly, and that it might corrupt my mind and force me to sacrifice my first 
born.  But I'm kind of curious to experiment.  Has anyone spent any time using 
luaTeX from within LyX?  Care to comment on just how broken things were?

Cheers,

Rob

LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-01 Thread Rob Oakes 
Dear LyX Users, 

I am currently slogging my way through a book chapter on advanced methods in 
LyX/LaTeX and just had a quick question.  Does anyone know if there is 
documentation on how to use LyX with luaTeX?  

I know that it isn't officially supported, and things would probably break 
terribly, and that it might corrupt my mind and force me to sacrifice my first 
born.  But I'm kind of curious to experiment.  Has anyone spent any time using 
luaTeX from within LyX?  Care to comment on just how broken things were?

Cheers,

Rob

LyX and LuaTeX

2010-11-01 Thread Rob Oakes 
Dear LyX Users, 

I am currently slogging my way through a book chapter on advanced methods in 
LyX/LaTeX and just had a quick question.  Does anyone know if there is 
documentation on how to use LyX with luaTeX?  

I know that it isn't officially supported, and things would probably break 
terribly, and that it might corrupt my mind and force me to sacrifice my first 
born.  But I'm kind of curious to experiment.  Has anyone spent any time using 
luaTeX from within LyX?  Care to comment on just how broken things were?

Cheers,

Rob