Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
  I downloaded the contents of the natbib directory from a CTAN mirror. Now
I would like to understand what files I have and where to put them in my
teTeX tree. Here's what I have:

README.1st  abbrvnat.bst  bibentry.ins  natbib.dtx  unsrtnat.bst
README.v71  bibentry.dtx  natbib.drvnatbib.ins  plainnat.bst

  Interestingly, the README files are not readable; they're in some sort of
binary format. So, no joy there.

  I have made the assumption that .bst means bibliographic style (or
something with the same intent). So, should I put them in
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/?

  What are the other files; the .dtx, .drv and .ins? Where do they come into
the picture?

TIA,

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote:

   I downloaded the contents of the natbib directory from a CTAN mirror. Now
 I would like to understand what files I have and where to put them in my
 teTeX tree. Here's what I have:
 
 README.1st  abbrvnat.bst  bibentry.ins  natbib.dtx  unsrtnat.bst
 README.v71  bibentry.dtx  natbib.drvnatbib.ins  plainnat.bst
 
   Interestingly, the README files are not readable;

The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)... 
   http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
and
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?


 they're in some sort of binary format. So, no joy there.
 
   I have made the assumption that .bst means bibliographic style (or
 something with the same intent). So, should I put them in
 /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/?

See README.v71 for both a list of what the files are, and how to install 
(at least get you started :-)

/Christian

 Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
 
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
  + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
  http://www.appl-ecosys.com/

PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of 
your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it 
as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)...
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
 and
   http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
 are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?

  I tried reading the ones I downloaded. Yes, I generally have at least a
dozen X windows open at once; four virtual terminals and the rest running
applications.

 See README.v71 for both a list of what the files are, and how to install
 (at least get you started :-)

  OK.

 PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
 your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
 as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.

  I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
in six years of my using pine for my mail.

Thanks,

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote:

 On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:
 
  The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)...
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
  and
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
  are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?
 
   I tried reading the ones I downloaded. Yes, I generally have at least a
 dozen X windows open at once; four virtual terminals and the rest running
 applications.
Uhm... are you saying that you couldn't read the files from Unix either? 
Just out of curiosity, could you mail me the readmes privately?

I assume that the online versions worked for you.

  PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
  your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
  as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.
 
   I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
 in six years of my using pine for my mail.
 
Maybe it's because your signature is so big now ;-)

/Christian

 Thanks,
 
 Rich
 
 Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
 
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
  + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
  http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
 
 

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 Uhm... are you saying that you couldn't read the files from Unix either?
 Just out of curiosity, could you mail me the readmes privately?

  There is no linux _either_. That's all I've been running the past six
years. And, I did get readable copies from the Web.

 Maybe it's because your signature is so big now ;-)

  Hmmm-m-m. Hasn't changed. But, I'll modify pine's setup.

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Ronald Florence
Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
  your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
  as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.
 
   I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
 in six years of my using pine for my mail.

Both the --  and the limit of four lines in a signature are
specified in one of the RFCs on Internet email.  Some mailers and
newsreaders enforce the latter.
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com



Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
  I downloaded the contents of the natbib directory from a CTAN mirror. Now
I would like to understand what files I have and where to put them in my
teTeX tree. Here's what I have:

README.1st  abbrvnat.bst  bibentry.ins  natbib.dtx  unsrtnat.bst
README.v71  bibentry.dtx  natbib.drvnatbib.ins  plainnat.bst

  Interestingly, the README files are not readable; they're in some sort of
binary format. So, no joy there.

  I have made the assumption that .bst means bibliographic style (or
something with the same intent). So, should I put them in
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/?

  What are the other files; the .dtx, .drv and .ins? Where do they come into
the picture?

TIA,

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote:

   I downloaded the contents of the natbib directory from a CTAN mirror. Now
 I would like to understand what files I have and where to put them in my
 teTeX tree. Here's what I have:
 
 README.1st  abbrvnat.bst  bibentry.ins  natbib.dtx  unsrtnat.bst
 README.v71  bibentry.dtx  natbib.drvnatbib.ins  plainnat.bst
 
   Interestingly, the README files are not readable;

The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)... 
   http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
and
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?


 they're in some sort of binary format. So, no joy there.
 
   I have made the assumption that .bst means bibliographic style (or
 something with the same intent). So, should I put them in
 /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/?

See README.v71 for both a list of what the files are, and how to install 
(at least get you started :-)

/Christian

 Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
 
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
  + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
  http://www.appl-ecosys.com/

PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of 
your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it 
as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)...
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
 and
   http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
 are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?

  I tried reading the ones I downloaded. Yes, I generally have at least a
dozen X windows open at once; four virtual terminals and the rest running
applications.

 See README.v71 for both a list of what the files are, and how to install
 (at least get you started :-)

  OK.

 PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
 your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
 as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.

  I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
in six years of my using pine for my mail.

Thanks,

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote:

 On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:
 
  The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)...
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
  and
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
  are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?
 
   I tried reading the ones I downloaded. Yes, I generally have at least a
 dozen X windows open at once; four virtual terminals and the rest running
 applications.
Uhm... are you saying that you couldn't read the files from Unix either? 
Just out of curiosity, could you mail me the readmes privately?

I assume that the online versions worked for you.

  PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
  your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
  as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.
 
   I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
 in six years of my using pine for my mail.
 
Maybe it's because your signature is so big now ;-)

/Christian

 Thanks,
 
 Rich
 
 Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
 
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
  + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
  http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
 
 

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

 Uhm... are you saying that you couldn't read the files from Unix either?
 Just out of curiosity, could you mail me the readmes privately?

  There is no linux _either_. That's all I've been running the past six
years. And, I did get readable copies from the Web.

 Maybe it's because your signature is so big now ;-)

  Hmmm-m-m. Hasn't changed. But, I'll modify pine's setup.

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Ronald Florence
Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
  your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
  as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.
 
   I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
 in six years of my using pine for my mail.

Both the --  and the limit of four lines in a signature are
specified in one of the RFCs on Internet email.  Some mailers and
newsreaders enforce the latter.
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com



Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
  I downloaded the contents of the natbib directory from a CTAN mirror. Now
I would like to understand what files I have and where to put them in my
teTeX tree. Here's what I have:

README.1st  abbrvnat.bst  bibentry.ins  natbib.dtx  unsrtnat.bst
README.v71  bibentry.dtx  natbib.drvnatbib.ins  plainnat.bst

  Interestingly, the README files are not readable; they're in some sort of
binary format. So, no joy there.

  I have made the assumption that .bst means "bibliographic style" (or
something with the same intent). So, should I put them in
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/?

  What are the other files; the .dtx, .drv and .ins? Where do they come into
the picture?

TIA,

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepardappl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote:

>   I downloaded the contents of the natbib directory from a CTAN mirror. Now
> I would like to understand what files I have and where to put them in my
> teTeX tree. Here's what I have:
> 
> README.1st  abbrvnat.bst  bibentry.ins  natbib.dtx  unsrtnat.bst
> README.v71  bibentry.dtx  natbib.drvnatbib.ins  plainnat.bst
> 
>   Interestingly, the README files are not readable;

The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)... 
   http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
and
  http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?


> they're in some sort of> binary format. So, no joy there.
> 
>   I have made the assumption that .bst means "bibliographic style" (or
> something with the same intent). So, should I put them in
> /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/?

See README.v71 for both a list of what the files are, and how to install 
(at least get you started :-)

/Christian

> Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
> 
>Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
> 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
>  + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepardappl-ecosys.com
>  http://www.appl-ecosys.com/

PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of 
your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it 
as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

> The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)...
>http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
> and
>   http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
> are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?

  I tried reading the ones I downloaded. Yes, I generally have at least a
dozen X windows open at once; four virtual terminals and the rest running
applications.

> See README.v71 for both a list of what the files are, and how to install
> (at least get you started :-)

  OK.

> PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
> your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
> as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.

  I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
in six years of my using pine for my mail.

Thanks,

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepardappl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Rich Shepard wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:
> 
> > The files I've found are readable (online version of README.1st)...
> >http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.1st
> > and
> >   http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/natbib/README.v71
> > are you using Windows, and the files aren't not using windows CR/LF pairs?
> 
>   I tried reading the ones I downloaded. Yes, I generally have at least a
> dozen X windows open at once; four virtual terminals and the rest running
> applications.
Uhm... are you saying that you couldn't read the files from Unix either? 
Just out of curiosity, could you mail me the readmes privately?

I assume that the online versions worked for you.

> > PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
> > your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
> > as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.
> 
>   I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
> in six years of my using pine for my mail.
> 
Maybe it's because your signature is so big now ;-)

/Christian

> Thanks,
> 
> Rich
> 
> Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
> 
>Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
> 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
>  + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepardappl-ecosys.com
>  http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
> 
> 

-- 
Christian Ridderström   http://www.md.kth.se/~chr




Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote:

> Uhm... are you saying that you couldn't read the files from Unix either?
> Just out of curiosity, could you mail me the readmes privately?

  There is no linux _either_. That's all I've been running the past six
years. And, I did get readable copies from the Web.

> Maybe it's because your signature is so big now ;-)

  Hmmm-m-m. Hasn't changed. But, I'll modify pine's setup.

Rich

Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President

   Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A.
 + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepardappl-ecosys.com
 http://www.appl-ecosys.com/


Re: Understanding natbib tarball contents

2003-11-15 Thread Ronald Florence
Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > PS. You might want to consider adding a single line with '-- ' in front of
> > your signature, since that would allow some mail software to recognize it
> > as a signature and automatically remove it in replies.
> 
>   I have that turned off in pine; I can turn it on. You're the first to ask
> in six years of my using pine for my mail.

Both the "-- " and the limit of four lines in a signature are
specified in one of the RFCs on Internet email.  Some mailers and
newsreaders enforce the latter.
-- 

Ronald Florence www.18james.com