Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols? + CJK and TIPA similarities?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: I just realized that this could work if you were to manually put the \dn around all unicode text. This vaguely rings a bell about how someone solved the CJK problem, but I can't seem to find the mail right now...something like that CJK was solved by manually putting the \being{CJK} command in front of everything? You mean probably this: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043 I don't remember how this was resolved but if the developers added something to account for certain blocks of unicode text (CJK, Devanagari, etc) or even a manual switch to turn on marking of the text as CJK/Devang/etc we could probably solve this problem. I would be happy to write out a file for the Devanag package when I have time. Please enter this to bugzilla if you don't want it to be forgotten. Also did you ever post your IPA file on linguistlyx? I can take a look at that and see if I can add any symbols..although honestly I hardly ever have use for most of those really bizarre ones in there (though strangely enough I needed a symbol in there once that I couldn't find! And no, it wasn't the labiodental flap.) I added a section about this file now. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols? + CJK and TIPA similarities?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: I just realized that this could work if you were to manually put the \dn around all unicode text. This vaguely rings a bell about how someone solved the CJK problem, but I can't seem to find the mail right now...something like that CJK was solved by manually putting the \being{CJK} command in front of everything? You mean probably this: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043 I don't remember how this was resolved but if the developers added something to account for certain blocks of unicode text (CJK, Devanagari, etc) or even a manual switch to turn on marking of the text as CJK/Devang/etc we could probably solve this problem. I would be happy to write out a file for the Devanag package when I have time. Please enter this to bugzilla if you don't want it to be forgotten. Also did you ever post your IPA file on linguistlyx? I can take a look at that and see if I can add any symbols..although honestly I hardly ever have use for most of those really bizarre ones in there (though strangely enough I needed a symbol in there once that I couldn't find! And no, it wasn't the labiodental flap.) I added a section about this file now. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols? + CJK and TIPA similarities?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: > I just realized that this could work if you were to manually put the > \dn around all unicode text. This vaguely rings a bell about how > someone solved the CJK problem, but I can't seem to find the mail > right now...something like that CJK was solved by manually putting the > \being{CJK} command in front of everything? You mean probably this: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043 > I don't remember how this > was resolved but if the developers added something to account for > certain blocks of unicode text (CJK, Devanagari, etc) or even a manual > switch to "turn on" marking of the text as CJK/Devang/etc we could > probably solve this problem. I would be happy to write out a file for > the Devanag package when I have time. Please enter this to bugzilla if you don't want it to be forgotten. > Also did you ever post your IPA file on linguistlyx? I can take a look > at that and see if I can add any symbols..although honestly I hardly > ever have use for most of those really bizarre ones in there (though > strangely enough I needed a symbol in there once that I couldn't find! > And no, it wasn't the labiodental flap.) I added a section about this file now. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? Yes, I don't think so, since you wrote that several characters need to be put into the {\dn ...} command. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols? + CJK and TIPA similarities?
I just realized that this could work if you were to manually put the \dn around all unicode text. This vaguely rings a bell about how someone solved the CJK problem, but I can't seem to find the mail right now...something like that CJK was solved by manually putting the \being{CJK} command in front of everything? I don't remember how this was resolved but if the developers added something to account for certain blocks of unicode text (CJK, Devanagari, etc) or even a manual switch to turn on marking of the text as CJK/Devang/etc we could probably solve this problem. I would be happy to write out a file for the Devanag package when I have time. Also did you ever post your IPA file on linguistlyx? I can take a look at that and see if I can add any symbols..although honestly I hardly ever have use for most of those really bizarre ones in there (though strangely enough I needed a symbol in there once that I couldn't find! And no, it wasn't the labiodental flap.) On 4/24/07, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? Yes, I don't think so, since you wrote that several characters need to be put into the {\dn ...} command. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? Yes, I don't think so, since you wrote that several characters need to be put into the {\dn ...} command. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols? + CJK and TIPA similarities?
I just realized that this could work if you were to manually put the \dn around all unicode text. This vaguely rings a bell about how someone solved the CJK problem, but I can't seem to find the mail right now...something like that CJK was solved by manually putting the \being{CJK} command in front of everything? I don't remember how this was resolved but if the developers added something to account for certain blocks of unicode text (CJK, Devanagari, etc) or even a manual switch to turn on marking of the text as CJK/Devang/etc we could probably solve this problem. I would be happy to write out a file for the Devanag package when I have time. Also did you ever post your IPA file on linguistlyx? I can take a look at that and see if I can add any symbols..although honestly I hardly ever have use for most of those really bizarre ones in there (though strangely enough I needed a symbol in there once that I couldn't find! And no, it wasn't the labiodental flap.) On 4/24/07, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? Yes, I don't think so, since you wrote that several characters need to be put into the {\dn ...} command. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: > So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? Yes, I don't think so, since you wrote that several characters need to be put into the {\dn ...} command. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols? + CJK and TIPA similarities?
I just realized that this could work if you were to manually put the \dn around all unicode text. This vaguely rings a bell about how someone solved the CJK problem, but I can't seem to find the mail right now...something like that CJK was solved by manually putting the \being{CJK} command in front of everything? I don't remember how this was resolved but if the developers added something to account for certain blocks of unicode text (CJK, Devanagari, etc) or even a manual switch to "turn on" marking of the text as CJK/Devang/etc we could probably solve this problem. I would be happy to write out a file for the Devanag package when I have time. Also did you ever post your IPA file on linguistlyx? I can take a look at that and see if I can add any symbols..although honestly I hardly ever have use for most of those really bizarre ones in there (though strangely enough I needed a symbol in there once that I couldn't find! And no, it wasn't the labiodental flap.) On 4/24/07, Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: > So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? Yes, I don't think so, since you wrote that several characters need to be put into the {\dn ...} command. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the same for the Devanagari package. However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem especially is the i vowel which appears *before* the characters but in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari package, in shorthand ki would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the vowels (u) is encoded like this for ku - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that shouldn't be there! I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ The unicode file can only handle simple replacements: There needs to be a 1:1 relationship between the UCS4 code point and the LaTeX command. It does also work for characters that are marked as combining in unicode (e.g. 0x0303 COMBINING TILDE), they can be combined with any base character. Everything that is more complicated does not work. If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to catch my mistakes. From what you describe it looks like the unicode file will not work for Devanagari. More sophisticated support in the LyX sources is probably needed. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented e or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as well once I have time but this little problem makes things difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I don't know... On 4/23/07, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the same for the Devanagari package. However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem especially is the i vowel which appears *before* the characters but in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari package, in shorthand ki would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the vowels (u) is encoded like this for ku - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that shouldn't be there! I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ The unicode file can only handle simple replacements: There needs to be a 1:1 relationship between the UCS4 code point and the LaTeX command. It does also work for characters that are marked as combining in unicode (e.g. 0x0303 COMBINING TILDE), they can be combined with any base character. Everything that is more complicated does not work. If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to catch my mistakes. From what you describe it looks like the unicode file will not work for Devanagari. More sophisticated support in the LyX sources is probably needed. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented e or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). The diacritics work, since they are marked as combining characters in the unicode file. LyX takes care of the proper order when it encounters combining characters. I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as well once I have time but this little problem makes things difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I don't know... AFAIK not for TIPA. I already added some TIPA symbols (including the ones you mentioned), but not all. As an example, the entry for cedilla looks like this: 0x0327 \\c combining # COMBINING CEDILLA Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? On 4/23/07, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented e or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). The diacritics work, since they are marked as combining characters in the unicode file. LyX takes care of the proper order when it encounters combining characters. I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as well once I have time but this little problem makes things difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I don't know... AFAIK not for TIPA. I already added some TIPA symbols (including the ones you mentioned), but not all. As an example, the entry for cedilla looks like this: 0x0327 \\c combining # COMBINING CEDILLA Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the same for the Devanagari package. However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem especially is the i vowel which appears *before* the characters but in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari package, in shorthand ki would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the vowels (u) is encoded like this for ku - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that shouldn't be there! I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ The unicode file can only handle simple replacements: There needs to be a 1:1 relationship between the UCS4 code point and the LaTeX command. It does also work for characters that are marked as combining in unicode (e.g. 0x0303 COMBINING TILDE), they can be combined with any base character. Everything that is more complicated does not work. If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to catch my mistakes. From what you describe it looks like the unicode file will not work for Devanagari. More sophisticated support in the LyX sources is probably needed. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented e or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as well once I have time but this little problem makes things difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I don't know... On 4/23/07, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the same for the Devanagari package. However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem especially is the i vowel which appears *before* the characters but in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari package, in shorthand ki would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the vowels (u) is encoded like this for ku - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that shouldn't be there! I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ The unicode file can only handle simple replacements: There needs to be a 1:1 relationship between the UCS4 code point and the LaTeX command. It does also work for characters that are marked as combining in unicode (e.g. 0x0303 COMBINING TILDE), they can be combined with any base character. Everything that is more complicated does not work. If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to catch my mistakes. From what you describe it looks like the unicode file will not work for Devanagari. More sophisticated support in the LyX sources is probably needed. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented e or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). The diacritics work, since they are marked as combining characters in the unicode file. LyX takes care of the proper order when it encounters combining characters. I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as well once I have time but this little problem makes things difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I don't know... AFAIK not for TIPA. I already added some TIPA symbols (including the ones you mentioned), but not all. As an example, the entry for cedilla looks like this: 0x0327 \\c combining # COMBINING CEDILLA Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? On 4/23/07, Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented e or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). The diacritics work, since they are marked as combining characters in the unicode file. LyX takes care of the proper order when it encounters combining characters. I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as well once I have time but this little problem makes things difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I don't know... AFAIK not for TIPA. I already added some TIPA symbols (including the ones you mentioned), but not all. As an example, the entry for cedilla looks like this: 0x0327 \\c combining # COMBINING CEDILLA Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: > I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to > put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the > same for the Devanagari package. > > However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem > especially is the "i" vowel which appears *before* the characters but > in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari > package, in shorthand "ki" would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the > vowels ("u") is encoded like this for "ku" - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how > this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the > consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, > {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that > shouldn't be there! > > I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on > how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: > http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ The unicode file can only handle simple replacements: There needs to be a 1:1 relationship between the UCS4 code point and the LaTeX command. It does also work for characters that are marked as "combining" in unicode (e.g. 0x0303 COMBINING TILDE), they can be combined with any base character. Everything that is more complicated does not work. > If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would > effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit > teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I > use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to > catch my mistakes. >From what you describe it looks like the unicode file will not work for Devanagari. More sophisticated support in the LyX sources is probably needed. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented "e" or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as well once I have time but this little problem makes things difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I don't know... On 4/23/07, Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: > I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to > put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the > same for the Devanagari package. > > However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem > especially is the "i" vowel which appears *before* the characters but > in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari > package, in shorthand "ki" would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the > vowels ("u") is encoded like this for "ku" - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how > this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the > consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, > {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that > shouldn't be there! > > I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on > how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: > http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ The unicode file can only handle simple replacements: There needs to be a 1:1 relationship between the UCS4 code point and the LaTeX command. It does also work for characters that are marked as "combining" in unicode (e.g. 0x0303 COMBINING TILDE), they can be combined with any base character. Everything that is more complicated does not work. > If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would > effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit > teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I > use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to > catch my mistakes. From what you describe it looks like the unicode file will not work for Devanagari. More sophisticated support in the LyX sources is probably needed. Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
Stacia Hartleben wrote: > Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail > seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - > Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're > made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented "e" > or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). The diacritics work, since they are marked as combining characters in the unicode file. LyX takes care of the proper order when it encounters combining characters. > I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as > well once I have time but this little problem makes things > difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I > don't know... AFAIK not for TIPA. I already added some TIPA symbols (including the ones you mentioned), but not all. As an example, the entry for cedilla looks like this: 0x0327 "\\c" "" "combining" # COMBINING CEDILLA Georg
Re: help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
So the combining character feature wouldn't help with Devanagari? On 4/23/07, Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stacia Hartleben wrote: > Doesn't this also mean that it will not work for TIPA? A previous mail > seemed promising but actually not all of TIPA is a one-to-one - > Unicode encodes diacritics after the character, wheras in TIPA they're > made similar to the Sanskrit (for example, \'e makes an accented "e" > or \c{c} makes a Cedilla). The diacritics work, since they are marked as combining characters in the unicode file. LyX takes care of the proper order when it encounters combining characters. > I'd be willing to take a shot at TIPA as > well once I have time but this little problem makes things > difficult...It may be that LyX will have to code in new support, I > don't know... AFAIK not for TIPA. I already added some TIPA symbols (including the ones you mentioned), but not all. As an example, the entry for cedilla looks like this: 0x0327 "\\c" "" "combining" # COMBINING CEDILLA Georg
help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the same for the Devanagari package. However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem especially is the i vowel which appears *before* the characters but in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari package, in shorthand ki would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the vowels (u) is encoded like this for ku - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that shouldn't be there! I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to catch my mistakes.
help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the same for the Devanagari package. However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem especially is the i vowel which appears *before* the characters but in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari package, in shorthand ki would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the vowels (u) is encoded like this for ku - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that shouldn't be there! I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to catch my mistakes.
help adding Devanagari unicode symbols?
I was looking at a previous mail that said you could edit a file to put in Tipa codes...this got me thinking that perhaps I could do the same for the Devanagari package. However IPA and Devanagari are reallly different. A big problem especially is the "i" vowel which appears *before* the characters but in unicode is actually encoded afterwards. Using the devanagari package, in shorthand "ki" would be {\dn Ek}. Uh oh. Also, one of the vowels ("u") is encoded like this for "ku" - {\dn \7{k}} Not sure how this would work, or if any of it would work because the vowel and the consonant have to go together to create a proper symbol - for example, {\dn E} {\dn k} creates a space between the two characters that shouldn't be there! I'd be willing to update the unicode file if someone gave me tips on how to make the Devanagari package work - website is here: http://sarovar.org/projects/devnag/ If we could get this working, it would be really neat, since it would effectively get around the need for the preprocessor. My Sanskrit teacher told me that I make a lot of mistakes in my assignments when I use LaTeX no doubt due to the preprocessor making it difficult to catch my mistakes.