Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
To: Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: whereabouts of chktex From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:01:27 +0200 Kevin == Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. I can

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jean-Pierre If lacheck comes with all current (La)TeX distros Jean-Pierre (MikTeX, teTeX, TeXLive,...) what about Check Tex calling Jean-Pierre lacheck if chktex is not available ? Sure, but we have to modify the error parsing code

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
To: Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org Subject: Re: whereabouts of chktex From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:01:27 +0200 Kevin == Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. I can

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Jean-Pierre == Jean-Pierre Chretien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jean-Pierre If lacheck comes with all current (La)TeX distros Jean-Pierre (MikTeX, teTeX, TeXLive,...) what about Check Tex calling Jean-Pierre lacheck if chktex is not available ? Sure, but we have to modify the error parsing code

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien
>>To: Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org >>Subject: Re: whereabouts of chktex >>From: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:01:27 +0200 >> >>>>>>> "Kevin&q

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jean-Pierre" == Jean-Pierre Chretien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jean-Pierre> If lacheck comes with all current (La)TeX distros Jean-Pierre> (MikTeX, teTeX, TeXLive,...) what about Check Tex calling Jean-Pierre> lacheck if chktex is not available ? Sure, but we have to modify the error

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's an alternative take on this problem. Why not use 'chktex' or a similar approach. For those who don't know 'chktex', it's a parser that detects common errors and mistakes, and it works with lyx if you have it installed. (Under

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). Perhaps this should be included with LyX (and since there is already a menu hook to it) -- or is it already (though not in my distro)? No,

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: Try clicking on the very first entry returned by googling on chktex... http://baruch.ev-en.org/proj/chktex/ That would be much too easy. :-) I guess I assumed that it should be included in the usual packages or even in the LyX distribution. BTW, just one more thing --

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Matej Cepl wrote: Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? I have a machine running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Matej == Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matej No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think Matej it is a good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all Matej together with LyX (have you heard about do one thing, and do Matej it perfectly principle?). Will you

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Angus Leeming wrote: Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? testing (soon to be stable, but I will probably keep with testing). I have a machine running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not surprisingly, a continual battle. Unstable is really, well,

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Matej Cepl writes: No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think it is a good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all together with LyX (have you heard about do one thing, and do it perfectly principle?). Will you expect LyX maintainers to maintain it, so they have

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Kevin == Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. I can make it disappear when unavailable if you prefer :) There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to understand this. Except that chktex seems to be maintained (the latest Debian package of it from 2005-01-01 indicates that there was

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. So I should modify my previous post to say in a perfect world with a dozen full-time LyX programmers I would suggest that such things be simply a part of LyX (whether compiled in or as script in the library). Anything that

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Matej Cepl writes: Hmm, so LyX people should maintain special TeX distribution, ... right? I understand your point (I should probably instead be saying this useful utility should also be in every TeX distribution or something), but you see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Matej == Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matej Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to understand this. Matej Except that chktex seems to be maintained (the latest

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout programs, word processors, etc., there is no distinction between the TeX package and the LyX package---well, maybe in the sense of front end / back end. I only know of TeX because of LyX (not entirely true, but for the

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's an alternative take on this problem. Why not use 'chktex' or a similar approach. For those who don't know 'chktex', it's a parser that detects common errors and mistakes, and it works with lyx if you have it installed. (Under

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). Perhaps this should be included with LyX (and since there is already a menu hook to it) -- or is it already (though not in my distro)? No,

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: Try clicking on the very first entry returned by googling on chktex... http://baruch.ev-en.org/proj/chktex/ That would be much too easy. :-) I guess I assumed that it should be included in the usual packages or even in the LyX distribution. BTW, just one more thing --

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Matej Cepl wrote: Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? I have a machine running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Matej == Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matej No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think Matej it is a good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all Matej together with LyX (have you heard about do one thing, and do Matej it perfectly principle?). Will you

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Angus Leeming wrote: Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? testing (soon to be stable, but I will probably keep with testing). I have a machine running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not surprisingly, a continual battle. Unstable is really, well,

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Matej Cepl writes: No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think it is a good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all together with LyX (have you heard about do one thing, and do it perfectly principle?). Will you expect LyX maintainers to maintain it, so they have

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Kevin == Kevin Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. I can make it disappear when unavailable if you prefer :) There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to understand this. Except that chktex seems to be maintained (the latest Debian package of it from 2005-01-01 indicates that there was

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. So I should modify my previous post to say in a perfect world with a dozen full-time LyX programmers I would suggest that such things be simply a part of LyX (whether compiled in or as script in the library). Anything that

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Matej Cepl writes: Hmm, so LyX people should maintain special TeX distribution, ... right? I understand your point (I should probably instead be saying this useful utility should also be in every TeX distribution or something), but you see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Matej == Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matej Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to understand this. Matej Except that chktex seems to be maintained (the latest

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout programs, word processors, etc., there is no distinction between the TeX package and the LyX package---well, maybe in the sense of front end / back end. I only know of TeX because of LyX (not entirely true, but for the

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Here's an alternative take on this problem. Why not use 'chktex' or a >> similar approach. For those who don't know 'chktex', it's a parser that >> detects common errors and mistakes, and it works with lyx if you have >> it installed. (Under

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: >> > Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). > Perhaps this should be included with LyX (and since there is already a > menu hook to it) -- or is it already (though not in my distro)?

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: >> Try clicking on the very first entry returned by googling on >> "chktex"... http://baruch.ev-en.org/proj/chktex/ > > That would be much too easy. :-) I guess I assumed that it should be > included in the "usual packages" or even in the LyX distribution. BTW, just one

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Angus Leeming
Matej Cepl wrote: Not installed on my system (SuSE 9,3) Well, then you should complain to the maintainers of your distribution -- Debian has it :-). Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? I have a machine running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Matej" == Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matej> No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think Matej> it is a good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all Matej> together with LyX (have you heard about "do one thing, and do Matej> it perfectly"

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Angus Leeming wrote: > Incidentally, Matej, which Debian flavour do you use? testing (soon to be stable, but I will probably keep with testing). > I have a machine > running Debian unstable at work and keeping it up to date is, not > surprisingly, a continual battle. Unstable is really, well,

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Matej Cepl writes: > No, it shouldn't be certainly included in LyX. I do not think it is a > good idea to fix broken distribution by bundling it all together with > LyX (have you heard about "do one thing, and do it perfectly" > principle?). Will you expect LyX maintainers to maintain it, so they

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Kevin" == Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kevin> But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. I can make it disappear when unavailable if you prefer :) >> There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more >> distributions? If it is we could think about

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more > distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to > understand this. Except that chktex seems to be maintained (the latest Debian package of it from 2005-01-01 indicates that there

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > But it is listed (though inactive) in the menu. So I should modify my > previous post to say "in a perfect world with a dozen full-time LyX > programmers I would suggest that such things be simply a part of LyX > (whether compiled in or as script in the library). Anything

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Matej Cepl writes: > Hmm, so LyX people should maintain special TeX distribution, ... right? I understand your point (I should probably instead be saying "this useful utility should also be in every TeX distribution" or something), but you see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout

Re: whereabouts of chktex

2005-05-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Matej" == Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matej> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> There is a similar utility named 'lacheck'. Is it bundled on more >> distributions? If it is we could think about modifying our code to >> understand this. Matej> Except that chktex seems to be

Re: whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > see, to some of us laypeople, used to page layout programs, word > processors, etc., there is no distinction between the TeX package and the > LyX package---well, maybe in the sense of "front end / back end". I only > know of TeX because of LyX (not entirely true, but for

whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's an alternative take on this problem. Why not use 'chktex' or a similar approach. For those who don't know 'chktex', it's a parser that detects common errors and mistakes, and it works with lyx if you have it installed. (Under Edit-CheckTeX I think). Not

whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's an alternative take on this problem. Why not use 'chktex' or a similar approach. For those who don't know 'chktex', it's a parser that detects common errors and mistakes, and it works with lyx if you have it installed. (Under Edit-CheckTeX I think). Not

whereabouts of chktex [Was Re: feature suggestion]

2005-05-25 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Here's an alternative take on this problem. Why not use 'chktex' or a > similar approach. For those who don't know 'chktex', it's a parser that > detects common errors and mistakes, and it works with lyx if you have > it installed. (Under Edit->CheckTeX I think). Not