subject:"Re\: examdesign layout, or multiple\-choice questions in LyX"

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-15 Thread Jason Waskiewicz

As requested, I've attached a sample LyX file that uses the exam layout. 
In this file you can see some of the tricks I used to get around a few 
of the shortcomings of exam.cls.


I now use the examdesign.cls with ordinary LaTeX because it seems better 
for my own needs.


--Jason Waskiewicz
   Bowman County High School
#LyX 2.0.0beta1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 407
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass exam
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{color}
\shadedsolutions
\renewcommand{\solutiontitle}{}
\pagestyle{head}
\lhead{\oddeven{\large\bf Biology\\ Eighth Test}}
\chead[Score: \enspace\hbox to 0.33in{\hrulefill} {\numpoints}]{}
\rhead{\oddeven{Name: \enspace\hbox to 2in{\hrulefill}\\ Date: \enspace\hbox to 
2in{\hrulefill}}{}}
\printanswers
\pointsinrightmargin
\addpoints
\end_preamble
\use_default_options false
\maintain_unincluded_children false
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\fontencoding global
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\use_xetex false
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\default_output_format default
\output_sync 0
\bibtex_command default
\index_command default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single
\use_hyperref false
\papersize letterpaper
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\use_mhchem 1
\use_mathdots 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\use_indices false
\paperorientation portrait
\suppress_date false
\use_refstyle 0
\branch Key
\selected 1
\filename_suffix 0
\color #55ff7f
\end_branch
\index Index
\shortcut idx
\color #008000
\end_index
\secnumdepth 0
\tocdepth 0
\paragraph_separation indent
\paragraph_indentation default
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\html_math_output 0
\html_be_strict false
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\align center

\noun on
Closed Notes
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Answer questions clearly.
 Show work for partial credit.
 When you complete the closed notes section, place it on the corner of your
 desk.
 I will pick it up.
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{questions}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
question[5]
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Question 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 2 (correct answer)
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
end{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 3
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 4
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
end{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
question[5]
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Second Question
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-15 Thread Jason Waskiewicz

As requested, I've attached a sample LyX file that uses the exam layout. 
In this file you can see some of the tricks I used to get around a few 
of the shortcomings of exam.cls.


I now use the examdesign.cls with ordinary LaTeX because it seems better 
for my own needs.


--Jason Waskiewicz
   Bowman County High School
#LyX 2.0.0beta1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 407
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass exam
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{color}
\shadedsolutions
\renewcommand{\solutiontitle}{}
\pagestyle{head}
\lhead{\oddeven{\large\bf Biology\\ Eighth Test}}
\chead[Score: \enspace\hbox to 0.33in{\hrulefill} {\numpoints}]{}
\rhead{\oddeven{Name: \enspace\hbox to 2in{\hrulefill}\\ Date: \enspace\hbox to 
2in{\hrulefill}}{}}
\printanswers
\pointsinrightmargin
\addpoints
\end_preamble
\use_default_options false
\maintain_unincluded_children false
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\fontencoding global
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\use_xetex false
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\default_output_format default
\output_sync 0
\bibtex_command default
\index_command default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single
\use_hyperref false
\papersize letterpaper
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\use_mhchem 1
\use_mathdots 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\use_indices false
\paperorientation portrait
\suppress_date false
\use_refstyle 0
\branch Key
\selected 1
\filename_suffix 0
\color #55ff7f
\end_branch
\index Index
\shortcut idx
\color #008000
\end_index
\secnumdepth 0
\tocdepth 0
\paragraph_separation indent
\paragraph_indentation default
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\html_math_output 0
\html_be_strict false
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\align center

\noun on
Closed Notes
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Answer questions clearly.
 Show work for partial credit.
 When you complete the closed notes section, place it on the corner of your
 desk.
 I will pick it up.
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{questions}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
question[5]
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Question 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 2 (correct answer)
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
end{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 3
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 4
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
end{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
question[5]
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Second Question
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-15 Thread Jason Waskiewicz

As requested, I've attached a sample LyX file that uses the exam layout. 
In this file you can see some of the tricks I used to get around a few 
of the shortcomings of exam.cls.


I now use the examdesign.cls with ordinary LaTeX because it seems better 
for my own needs.


--Jason Waskiewicz
   Bowman County High School
#LyX 2.0.0beta1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 407
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass exam
\begin_preamble
\usepackage{color}
\shadedsolutions
\renewcommand{\solutiontitle}{}
\pagestyle{head}
\lhead{\oddeven{\large\bf Biology\\ Eighth Test}}
\chead[Score: \enspace\hbox to 0.33in{\hrulefill} {\numpoints}]{}
\rhead{\oddeven{Name: \enspace\hbox to 2in{\hrulefill}\\ Date: \enspace\hbox to 
2in{\hrulefill}}{}}
\printanswers
\pointsinrightmargin
\addpoints
\end_preamble
\use_default_options false
\maintain_unincluded_children false
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\fontencoding global
\font_roman default
\font_sans default
\font_typewriter default
\font_default_family default
\use_xetex false
\font_sc false
\font_osf false
\font_sf_scale 100
\font_tt_scale 100

\graphics default
\default_output_format default
\output_sync 0
\bibtex_command default
\index_command default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single
\use_hyperref false
\papersize letterpaper
\use_geometry false
\use_amsmath 1
\use_esint 1
\use_mhchem 1
\use_mathdots 1
\cite_engine basic
\use_bibtopic false
\use_indices false
\paperorientation portrait
\suppress_date false
\use_refstyle 0
\branch Key
\selected 1
\filename_suffix 0
\color #55ff7f
\end_branch
\index Index
\shortcut idx
\color #008000
\end_index
\secnumdepth 0
\tocdepth 0
\paragraph_separation indent
\paragraph_indentation default
\quotes_language english
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default
\tracking_changes false
\output_changes false
\html_math_output 0
\html_be_strict false
\end_header

\begin_body

\begin_layout Standard
\align center

\noun on
Closed Notes
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Answer questions clearly.
 Show work for partial credit.
 When you complete the closed notes section, place it on the corner of your
 desk.
 I will pick it up.
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{questions}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
question[5]
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Question 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 2 (correct answer)
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
end{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 3
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 4
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
end{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
question[5]
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
Second Question
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{choices}
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
choice 1
\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
choice
\end_layout

\end_inset


\end_layout

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset Branch Key
status open

\begin_layout Standard
\begin_inset ERT
status collapsed

\begin_layout Plain Layout


\backslash
begin{solution}
\end_layout

\end_inset

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Jason Waskiewicz

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:

 
 Dear all
 I'm coming back with a question that was raised several times on the
 list, but that didn't yet get a definitive answer: creating
 multiple-choice exams using LyX.
 
 The exam.layout posted on the list [1] can be useful is some cases,
 but cannot be used for multiple choice. The examdesign.layout posted
 by Paul [2] may work after a minor modification (see attached), 

With LyX, I use Hirschorn's exam class:  http://www-math.mit.edu/~psh/#ExamCls

I found a layout file that requires a lot of ERT, but does successfully utilize
all of the features of this class. I will attach it at the end, but should note
that the credit does NOT belong to me.

I prefer the Examdesign class and use it as regular TeX. I have not figured out
how to set up a layout file in LyX which uses the nesting.

I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see with LyX
is the ability to nest in a layout file.

--Jason Waskiewicz
  Bowman County High School

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass{exam}
# Exam textclass definition file.
# Author :  ettr...@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de

# Input general definitions
Input stdclass.inc

# There are no chapters in an article.
NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*
NoStyle Section
NoStyle Section*
NoStyle Subsection
NoStyle Subsection*
NoStyle Subsubsection
NoStyle Subsubsection*
NoStyle Paragraph
NoStyle Paragraph*
NoStyle Subparagraph
NoStyle Subparagraph*
NoStyle Abstract
NoStyle Bibliography
MaxCounterCounter_Section
SecNumDepth3
TocDepth3

# Change a bit Part and Part*
Style Part
  AlignLeft
  AlignPossibleLeft
  TopSep2
  BottomSep 1.5

  Font
SizeLarger
  EndFont
End

Style Part*
  AlignLeft
  AlignPossibleLeft
  TopSep2
  BottomSep 1.5

  Font
SizeLarger
  EndFont
End

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Liviu Andronic

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jason Waskiewicz
jason.waskiew...@sendit.nodak.edu wrote:
 With LyX, I use Hirschorn's exam class:  http://www-math.mit.edu/~psh/#ExamCls

After a couple of quick checks, this class is the same as the one
shipped with TeX Live.


 I found a layout file that requires a lot of ERT, but does successfully 
 utilize
 all of the features of this class. I will attach it at the end, but should 
 note
 that the credit does NOT belong to me.

Thanks. After checking the documentation 'exam' is much more capable
than Andrés' exam.layout would have you believe. Do you think you
could also post (or send privately) an example of multiple choice LyX
document using this class (and ettrich's exam.layout)? You could use
loremipsumize.py in elyxer to anonymize the document.


 I prefer the Examdesign class and use it as regular TeX. I have not figured 
 out
 how to set up a layout file in LyX which uses the nesting.

 I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see with LyX
 is the ability to nest in a layout file.

Yes, Steve has been singling out this very issue, too. Is anyone aware
of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
a bug report?

Regards
Liviu


 --Jason Waskiewicz
  Bowman County High School

 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
 #  \DeclareLaTeXClass{exam}
 # Exam textclass definition file.
 # Author :  ettr...@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de

 # Input general definitions
 Input stdclass.inc

 # There are no chapters in an article.
 NoStyle Chapter
 NoStyle Chapter*
 NoStyle Section
 NoStyle Section*
 NoStyle Subsection
 NoStyle Subsection*
 NoStyle Subsubsection
 NoStyle Subsubsection*
 NoStyle Paragraph
 NoStyle Paragraph*
 NoStyle Subparagraph
 NoStyle Subparagraph*
 NoStyle Abstract
 NoStyle Bibliography
 MaxCounter        Counter_Section
 SecNumDepth        3
 TocDepth        3

 # Change a bit Part and Part*
 Style Part
  Align            Left
  AlignPossible        Left
  TopSep                2
  BottomSep             1.5

  Font
    Size        Larger
  EndFont
 End

 Style Part*
  Align            Left
  AlignPossible        Left
  TopSep                2
  BottomSep             1.5

  Font
    Size        Larger
  EndFont
 End







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Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Steve Litt

On Sunday 14 November 2010 06:03:35 Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jason Waskiewicz
 
 jason.waskiew...@sendit.nodak.edu wrote:


  I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see
  with LyX is the ability to nest in a layout file.
 
 Yes, Steve has been singling out this very issue, too. Is anyone aware
 of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
 anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
 a bug report?

Here is the email where I troubleshot the compile failures down to the 
practice of nesting LaTeX code inside LyX styles:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg66171.html

The thread that follows goes into possible solutions and eventually comes to 
the conclusion that it's insoluble without modifying LyX files to take LaTeX 
out of LyX style defs.

If one could somehow take all the Preamble...EndPreamble code out of LyX 
styles and put it in the document preamble, the compile problems would go 
away.

The only solution I can think of that doesn't involve reconstructing existing 
LyX files that distribute with LyX is a script that recurses through all 
included LyX files, removes LaTeX embedded in LyX styles, and moves it up to 
the document preamble, and then use THAT MASSIVE FILE as your layout file. 
Ugly!

SteveT

Steve Litt
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Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Liviu Andronic

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
 anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
 a bug report?

 Here is the email where I troubleshot the compile failures down to the
 practice of nesting LaTeX code inside LyX styles:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg66171.html

 The thread that follows goes into possible solutions and eventually comes to
 the conclusion that it's insoluble without modifying LyX files to take LaTeX
 out of LyX style defs.

 If one could somehow take all the Preamble...EndPreamble code out of LyX
 styles and put it in the document preamble, the compile problems would go
 away.

I haven't looked at the two threads attentively, but on a quick check
this wasn't discussed: what about using one of the following tricks
[1]?
\AtEndOfClass {code}
\AtEndOfPackage {code}
\AtBeginDocument {code}

I'm not sure that the code included in the last command is actually
included in the preamble, but I have a feeling that it is treated as
if it were. Could this help?

[1] http://tex.loria.fr/general/new/clsguide.html#Sec:delays


 The only solution I can think of that doesn't involve reconstructing existing
 LyX files that distribute with LyX is a script that recurses through all
 included LyX files, removes LaTeX embedded in LyX styles, and moves it up to
 the document preamble, and then use THAT MASSIVE FILE as your layout file.
 Ugly!

Yes, this doesn't sound very nice. :) Regards
Liviu


 SteveT

 Steve Litt
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 http://www.recession-relief.US
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt





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Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Jason Waskiewicz

Liviu Andronic landronimirc at gmail.com writes:

 
 Dear all
 I'm coming back with a question that was raised several times on the
 list, but that didn't yet get a definitive answer: creating
 multiple-choice exams using LyX.
 
 The exam.layout posted on the list [1] can be useful is some cases,
 but cannot be used for multiple choice. The examdesign.layout posted
 by Paul [2] may work after a minor modification (see attached), 

With LyX, I use Hirschorn's exam class:  http://www-math.mit.edu/~psh/#ExamCls

I found a layout file that requires a lot of ERT, but does successfully utilize
all of the features of this class. I will attach it at the end, but should note
that the credit does NOT belong to me.

I prefer the Examdesign class and use it as regular TeX. I have not figured out
how to set up a layout file in LyX which uses the nesting.

I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see with LyX
is the ability to nest in a layout file.

--Jason Waskiewicz
  Bowman County High School

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass{exam}
# Exam textclass definition file.
# Author :  ettr...@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de

# Input general definitions
Input stdclass.inc

# There are no chapters in an article.
NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*
NoStyle Section
NoStyle Section*
NoStyle Subsection
NoStyle Subsection*
NoStyle Subsubsection
NoStyle Subsubsection*
NoStyle Paragraph
NoStyle Paragraph*
NoStyle Subparagraph
NoStyle Subparagraph*
NoStyle Abstract
NoStyle Bibliography
MaxCounterCounter_Section
SecNumDepth3
TocDepth3

# Change a bit Part and Part*
Style Part
  AlignLeft
  AlignPossibleLeft
  TopSep2
  BottomSep 1.5

  Font
SizeLarger
  EndFont
End

Style Part*
  AlignLeft
  AlignPossibleLeft
  TopSep2
  BottomSep 1.5

  Font
SizeLarger
  EndFont
End

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Liviu Andronic

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jason Waskiewicz
jason.waskiew...@sendit.nodak.edu wrote:
 With LyX, I use Hirschorn's exam class:  http://www-math.mit.edu/~psh/#ExamCls

After a couple of quick checks, this class is the same as the one
shipped with TeX Live.


 I found a layout file that requires a lot of ERT, but does successfully 
 utilize
 all of the features of this class. I will attach it at the end, but should 
 note
 that the credit does NOT belong to me.

Thanks. After checking the documentation 'exam' is much more capable
than Andrés' exam.layout would have you believe. Do you think you
could also post (or send privately) an example of multiple choice LyX
document using this class (and ettrich's exam.layout)? You could use
loremipsumize.py in elyxer to anonymize the document.


 I prefer the Examdesign class and use it as regular TeX. I have not figured 
 out
 how to set up a layout file in LyX which uses the nesting.

 I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see with LyX
 is the ability to nest in a layout file.

Yes, Steve has been singling out this very issue, too. Is anyone aware
of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
a bug report?

Regards
Liviu


 --Jason Waskiewicz
  Bowman County High School

 #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
 #  \DeclareLaTeXClass{exam}
 # Exam textclass definition file.
 # Author :  ettr...@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de

 # Input general definitions
 Input stdclass.inc

 # There are no chapters in an article.
 NoStyle Chapter
 NoStyle Chapter*
 NoStyle Section
 NoStyle Section*
 NoStyle Subsection
 NoStyle Subsection*
 NoStyle Subsubsection
 NoStyle Subsubsection*
 NoStyle Paragraph
 NoStyle Paragraph*
 NoStyle Subparagraph
 NoStyle Subparagraph*
 NoStyle Abstract
 NoStyle Bibliography
 MaxCounter        Counter_Section
 SecNumDepth        3
 TocDepth        3

 # Change a bit Part and Part*
 Style Part
  Align            Left
  AlignPossible        Left
  TopSep                2
  BottomSep             1.5

  Font
    Size        Larger
  EndFont
 End

 Style Part*
  Align            Left
  AlignPossible        Left
  TopSep                2
  BottomSep             1.5

  Font
    Size        Larger
  EndFont
 End







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Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Steve Litt

On Sunday 14 November 2010 06:03:35 Liviu Andronic wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jason Waskiewicz
 
 jason.waskiew...@sendit.nodak.edu wrote:


  I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see
  with LyX is the ability to nest in a layout file.
 
 Yes, Steve has been singling out this very issue, too. Is anyone aware
 of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
 anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
 a bug report?

Here is the email where I troubleshot the compile failures down to the 
practice of nesting LaTeX code inside LyX styles:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg66171.html

The thread that follows goes into possible solutions and eventually comes to 
the conclusion that it's insoluble without modifying LyX files to take LaTeX 
out of LyX style defs.

If one could somehow take all the Preamble...EndPreamble code out of LyX 
styles and put it in the document preamble, the compile problems would go 
away.

The only solution I can think of that doesn't involve reconstructing existing 
LyX files that distribute with LyX is a script that recurses through all 
included LyX files, removes LaTeX embedded in LyX styles, and moves it up to 
the document preamble, and then use THAT MASSIVE FILE as your layout file. 
Ugly!

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Liviu Andronic

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
 anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
 a bug report?

 Here is the email where I troubleshot the compile failures down to the
 practice of nesting LaTeX code inside LyX styles:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg66171.html

 The thread that follows goes into possible solutions and eventually comes to
 the conclusion that it's insoluble without modifying LyX files to take LaTeX
 out of LyX style defs.

 If one could somehow take all the Preamble...EndPreamble code out of LyX
 styles and put it in the document preamble, the compile problems would go
 away.

I haven't looked at the two threads attentively, but on a quick check
this wasn't discussed: what about using one of the following tricks
[1]?
\AtEndOfClass {code}
\AtEndOfPackage {code}
\AtBeginDocument {code}

I'm not sure that the code included in the last command is actually
included in the preamble, but I have a feeling that it is treated as
if it were. Could this help?

[1] http://tex.loria.fr/general/new/clsguide.html#Sec:delays


 The only solution I can think of that doesn't involve reconstructing existing
 LyX files that distribute with LyX is a script that recurses through all
 included LyX files, removes LaTeX embedded in LyX styles, and moves it up to
 the document preamble, and then use THAT MASSIVE FILE as your layout file.
 Ugly!

Yes, this doesn't sound very nice. :) Regards
Liviu


 SteveT

 Steve Litt
 Recession Relief Package
 http://www.recession-relief.US
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt





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Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Jason Waskiewicz

Liviu Andronic  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Dear all
> I'm coming back with a question that was raised several times on the
> list, but that didn't yet get a definitive answer: creating
> multiple-choice exams using LyX.
> 
> The exam.layout posted on the list [1] can be useful is some cases,
> but cannot be used for multiple choice. The examdesign.layout posted
> by Paul [2] may work after a minor modification (see attached), 

With LyX, I use Hirschorn's exam class:  http://www-math.mit.edu/~psh/#ExamCls

I found a layout file that requires a lot of ERT, but does successfully utilize
all of the features of this class. I will attach it at the end, but should note
that the credit does NOT belong to me.

I prefer the Examdesign class and use it as regular TeX. I have not figured out
how to set up a layout file in LyX which uses the nesting.

I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see with LyX
is the ability to nest in a layout file.

--Jason Waskiewicz
  Bowman County High School

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass{exam}
# Exam textclass definition file.
# Author :  

# Input general definitions
Input stdclass.inc

# There are no chapters in an article.
NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*
NoStyle Section
NoStyle Section*
NoStyle Subsection
NoStyle Subsection*
NoStyle Subsubsection
NoStyle Subsubsection*
NoStyle Paragraph
NoStyle Paragraph*
NoStyle Subparagraph
NoStyle Subparagraph*
NoStyle Abstract
NoStyle Bibliography
MaxCounterCounter_Section
SecNumDepth3
TocDepth3

# Change a bit Part and Part*
Style Part
  AlignLeft
  AlignPossibleLeft
  TopSep2
  BottomSep 1.5

  Font
SizeLarger
  EndFont
End

Style Part*
  AlignLeft
  AlignPossibleLeft
  TopSep2
  BottomSep 1.5

  Font
SizeLarger
  EndFont
End

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Liviu Andronic

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jason Waskiewicz
 wrote:
> With LyX, I use Hirschorn's exam class:  http://www-math.mit.edu/~psh/#ExamCls
>
After a couple of quick checks, this class is the same as the one
shipped with TeX Live.


> I found a layout file that requires a lot of ERT, but does successfully 
> utilize
> all of the features of this class. I will attach it at the end, but should 
> note
> that the credit does NOT belong to me.
>
Thanks. After checking the documentation 'exam' is much more capable
than Andrés' exam.layout would have you believe. Do you think you
could also post (or send privately) an example of multiple choice LyX
document using this class (and ettrich's exam.layout)? You could use
loremipsumize.py in elyxer to anonymize the document.


> I prefer the Examdesign class and use it as regular TeX. I have not figured 
> out
> how to set up a layout file in LyX which uses the nesting.
>
> I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see with LyX
> is the ability to nest in a layout file.
>
Yes, Steve has been singling out this very issue, too. Is anyone aware
of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
a bug report?

Regards
Liviu


> --Jason Waskiewicz
>  Bowman County High School
>
> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
> #  \DeclareLaTeXClass{exam}
> # Exam textclass definition file.
> # Author :  
>
> # Input general definitions
> Input stdclass.inc
>
> # There are no chapters in an article.
> NoStyle Chapter
> NoStyle Chapter*
> NoStyle Section
> NoStyle Section*
> NoStyle Subsection
> NoStyle Subsection*
> NoStyle Subsubsection
> NoStyle Subsubsection*
> NoStyle Paragraph
> NoStyle Paragraph*
> NoStyle Subparagraph
> NoStyle Subparagraph*
> NoStyle Abstract
> NoStyle Bibliography
> MaxCounter        Counter_Section
> SecNumDepth        3
> TocDepth        3
>
> # Change a bit Part and Part*
> Style Part
>  Align            Left
>  AlignPossible        Left
>  TopSep                2
>  BottomSep             1.5
>
>  Font
>    Size        Larger
>  EndFont
> End
>
> Style Part*
>  Align            Left
>  AlignPossible        Left
>  TopSep                2
>  BottomSep             1.5
>
>  Font
>    Size        Larger
>  EndFont
> End
>
>
>
>



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Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Steve Litt

On Sunday 14 November 2010 06:03:35 Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Jason Waskiewicz
> 
>  wrote:

> > I hope you find something here that you can use. The limitation I see
> > with LyX is the ability to nest in a layout file.
> 
> Yes, Steve has been singling out this very issue, too. Is anyone aware
> of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
> anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
> a bug report?

Here is the email where I troubleshot the compile failures down to the 
practice of nesting LaTeX code inside LyX styles:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg66171.html

The thread that follows goes into possible solutions and eventually comes to 
the conclusion that it's insoluble without modifying LyX files to take LaTeX 
out of LyX style defs.

If one could somehow take all the Preamble...EndPreamble code out of LyX 
styles and put it in the document preamble, the compile problems would go 
away.

The only solution I can think of that doesn't involve reconstructing existing 
LyX files that distribute with LyX is a script that recurses through all 
included LyX files, removes LaTeX embedded in LyX styles, and moves it up to 
the document preamble, and then use THAT MASSIVE FILE as your layout file. 
Ugly!

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt

Re: examdesign layout, or multiple-choice questions in LyX

2010-11-14 Thread Liviu Andronic

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Steve Litt  wrote:
>> of any progress regarding nesting in a layout files? Does 2.0 have
>> anything new to offer? If this is technically feasible, should I file
>> a bug report?
>
> Here is the email where I troubleshot the compile failures down to the
> practice of nesting LaTeX code inside LyX styles:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg66171.html
>
> The thread that follows goes into possible solutions and eventually comes to
> the conclusion that it's insoluble without modifying LyX files to take LaTeX
> out of LyX style defs.
>
> If one could somehow take all the Preamble...EndPreamble code out of LyX
> styles and put it in the document preamble, the compile problems would go
> away.
>
I haven't looked at the two threads attentively, but on a quick check
this wasn't discussed: what about using one of the following tricks
[1]?
\AtEndOfClass {code}
\AtEndOfPackage {code}
\AtBeginDocument {code}

I'm not sure that the code included in the last command is actually
included in the preamble, but I have a feeling that it is treated as
if it were. Could this help?

[1] http://tex.loria.fr/general/new/clsguide.html#Sec:delays


> The only solution I can think of that doesn't involve reconstructing existing
> LyX files that distribute with LyX is a script that recurses through all
> included LyX files, removes LaTeX embedded in LyX styles, and moves it up to
> the document preamble, and then use THAT MASSIVE FILE as your layout file.
> Ugly!
>
Yes, this doesn't sound very nice. :) Regards
Liviu


> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> Recession Relief Package
> http://www.recession-relief.US
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt
>
>



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