Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:33:28AM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. ~S- I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? Looks like 'Shift'. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
Owen == Owen Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen like slash it means / not slash. Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means the state of the shift key is not relevant (this is useful because 2, for example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). JMarc
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Owen == Owen Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen like slash it means / not slash. Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means the state of the shift key is not relevant (this is useful because 2, for example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). Now I'm confused... C-m starts math (inline mode) S-C-m starts math (display mode) so there is a difference, i.e. S stands for Shift? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Owen == Owen Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen like slash it means / not slash. Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means the state of the shift key is not relevant (this is useful because 2, for example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). Christian Now I'm confused... Christian C-m starts math (inline mode) S-C-m starts math Christian (display mode) Christian so there is a difference, i.e. S stands for Shift? Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for don't worry about shift. JMarc
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for don't worry about shift. Maybe I'm tired today... didn't see the '~' there. I've put some notes on this here: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings A few questions though: Here are some keybindings: Bindning# Alt. \bind C-a command1 # 1) \bind C-A command2 # 2) \bind C-S-a command3 # 3) \bind C-S-A command4 # 4) \bind C-~S-a command5 # 5) I'm guessing that: C-a is not the same as C-A C-S-a can't be typed on the keyboard? C-~S-a replaces C-a and C-S-A C-A is equivalent to C-S-A ? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote: On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for don't worry about shift. Maybe I'm tired today... didn't see the '~' there. I've put some notes on this here: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings Some testing showed that: C-a is equivalent to C-A and C-S-a is equivalent to C-S-A and the order of the modifiers doesn't matter either, so: C-S-a is equivalent to S-C-a Furthermore, the last binding seem to override previous bindings, i.e. \bind C-a self-insert a \bind C-A self-insert A means that pressing C-a will insert a 'A' (since C-a and C-A are equivalent). The '~S' modifier seems to be an exception to overriding previous key bindings. Having only this binding: \bind C-~S-a self-insert a means that both C-a and C-S-a will insert a 'a'. However, in this case: \bind C-a self-insert a \bind C-S-A self-insert A \bind C-~S-a self-insert b pressing C-a - 'a' so C-S-A - A. The binding C-~S-a is never activated. If one of the previous bindings are removed, i.e. \bind C-S-A self-insert A \bind C-~S-a self-insert b then C-a - 'A' and C-S-a - b. So bindings with the modifier ~S doesn't seem to override previous bindings. Anyway, I put these notes here: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings for the future. /Chrstian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:33:28AM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. ~S- I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? Looks like 'Shift'. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
Owen == Owen Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen like slash it means / not slash. Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means the state of the shift key is not relevant (this is useful because 2, for example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). JMarc
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Owen == Owen Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen like slash it means / not slash. Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means the state of the shift key is not relevant (this is useful because 2, for example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). Now I'm confused... C-m starts math (inline mode) S-C-m starts math (display mode) so there is a difference, i.e. S stands for Shift? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Owen == Owen Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen like slash it means / not slash. Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means the state of the shift key is not relevant (this is useful because 2, for example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). Christian Now I'm confused... Christian C-m starts math (inline mode) S-C-m starts math Christian (display mode) Christian so there is a difference, i.e. S stands for Shift? Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for don't worry about shift. JMarc
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for don't worry about shift. Maybe I'm tired today... didn't see the '~' there. I've put some notes on this here: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings A few questions though: Here are some keybindings: Bindning# Alt. \bind C-a command1 # 1) \bind C-A command2 # 2) \bind C-S-a command3 # 3) \bind C-S-A command4 # 4) \bind C-~S-a command5 # 5) I'm guessing that: C-a is not the same as C-A C-S-a can't be typed on the keyboard? C-~S-a replaces C-a and C-S-A C-A is equivalent to C-S-A ? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote: On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Christian == Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for don't worry about shift. Maybe I'm tired today... didn't see the '~' there. I've put some notes on this here: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings Some testing showed that: C-a is equivalent to C-A and C-S-a is equivalent to C-S-A and the order of the modifiers doesn't matter either, so: C-S-a is equivalent to S-C-a Furthermore, the last binding seem to override previous bindings, i.e. \bind C-a self-insert a \bind C-A self-insert A means that pressing C-a will insert a 'A' (since C-a and C-A are equivalent). The '~S' modifier seems to be an exception to overriding previous key bindings. Having only this binding: \bind C-~S-a self-insert a means that both C-a and C-S-a will insert a 'a'. However, in this case: \bind C-a self-insert a \bind C-S-A self-insert A \bind C-~S-a self-insert b pressing C-a - 'a' so C-S-A - A. The binding C-~S-a is never activated. If one of the previous bindings are removed, i.e. \bind C-S-A self-insert A \bind C-~S-a self-insert b then C-a - 'A' and C-S-a - b. So bindings with the modifier ~S doesn't seem to override previous bindings. Anyway, I put these notes here: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings for the future. /Chrstian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:33:28AM +1030, Owen Lucas wrote: > When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in > commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options > to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind > these multi character commands start with. "~S-" I assume that you need > to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? Looks like 'Shift'. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
> "Owen" == Owen Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Owen> O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen> like slash it means "/" not "slash". Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means "the state of the shift key is not relevant" (this is useful because "2", for example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). JMarc
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Owen" == Owen Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Owen> O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options > Owen> like slash it means "/" not "slash". > > Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means "the state of the > shift key is not relevant" (this is useful because "2", for example, > will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US one). > Now I'm confused... C-m starts math (inline mode) S-C-m starts math (display mode) so there is a difference, i.e. S stands for Shift? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
> "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> > "Owen" == Owen Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> Owen> O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options Owen> like slash it means "/" not "slash". >> Indeed :) And concerning the ~S notation, it means "the state of >> the shift key is not relevant" (this is useful because "2", for >> example, will need shift on a french keyboard, but not on an US >> one). >> Christian> Now I'm confused... Christian> C-m starts math (inline mode) S-C-m starts math Christian> (display mode) Christian> so there is a difference, i.e. S stands for Shift? Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for "don't worry about shift". JMarc
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for "don't worry about shift". Maybe I'm tired today... didn't see the '~' there. I've put some notes on this here: http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings A few questions though: Here are some keybindings: Bindning# Alt. \bind "C-a" "command1" # 1) \bind "C-A" "command2" # 2) \bind "C-S-a" "command3" # 3) \bind "C-S-A" "command4" # 4) \bind "C-~S-a" "command5" # 5) I'm guessing that: "C-a" is not the same as "C-A" "C-S-a" can't be typed on the keyboard? "C-~S-a" replaces "C-a" and "C-S-A" "C-A" is equivalent to "C-S-A" ? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Christian Ridderström wrote: > On 11 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > > "Christian" == Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > Yes, S stands for shift, and ~S stands for "don't worry about shift". > > Maybe I'm tired today... didn't see the '~' there. I've put some notes > on this here: > > http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings > Some testing showed that: "C-a" is equivalent to "C-A" and "C-S-a" is equivalent to "C-S-A" and the order of the "modifiers" doesn't matter either, so: "C-S-a" is equivalent to "S-C-a" Furthermore, the last binding seem to override previous bindings, i.e. \bind "C-a" "self-insert a" \bind "C-A" "self-insert A" means that pressing "C-a" will insert a 'A' (since "C-a" and "C-A" are equivalent). The '~S' modifier seems to be an exception to overriding previous key bindings. Having only this binding: \bind "C-~S-a" "self-insert a" means that both "C-a" and "C-S-a" will insert a 'a'. However, in this case: \bind "C-a" "self-insert a" \bind "C-S-A" "self-insert A" \bind "C-~S-a" "self-insert b" pressing "C-a" -> 'a' so "C-S-A" -> "A". The binding "C-~S-a" is never activated. If one of the previous bindings are removed, i.e. \bind "C-S-A" "self-insert A" \bind "C-~S-a" "self-insert b" then "C-a" -> 'A' and "C-S-a" -> b. So bindings with the modifier "~S" doesn't seem to override previous bindings. Anyway, I put these notes here: > > http://ev-en.org/wiki/moin.cgi/LyxKeyboardBindings for the future. /Chrstian -- Christian Ridderström http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. ~S- I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? It is the Shift key cheers owen Amir
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options like slash it means / not slash. Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. ~S- I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? cheers owen
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. ~S- I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? It is the Shift key cheers owen Amir
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options like slash it means / not slash. Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. ~S- I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? cheers owen
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. "~S-" I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? It is the "Shift" key cheers owen Amir
Re: really stupid simple maths keyboard command question
O wait I get it now when you go meta-m and it gived you options like slash it means "/" not "slash". Owen Lucas wrote: When in maths mode you can press meta-m and it allows you to type in commands as shown in maths.bind. I can get the single character options to work but cant get the multiple ones to key in. in the file maths.bind these multi character commands start with. "~S-" I assume that you need to press or hold a key down a key first. what is it? cheers owen
