Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 07:34:24 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: I just created a brand new LyX file in 2.0.6, which is the packaged LyX for Ubuntu 13.10, and there wasn't a bit of XML in it, well

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 07:34:24 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: I just created a brand new LyX file in 2.0.6, which is the packaged LyX for Ubuntu 13.10, and there wasn't a bit of XML in it, well

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 07:34:24 +0100 Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Steve Litt > wrote: > > I just created a brand new LyX file in 2.0.6, which is the packaged > > LyX for Ubuntu 13.10, and there wasn't a bit of XML in

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:05:57 -0500 Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:53:49 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 11:36 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:05:57 -0500 Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 11:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:53:49 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: 1) If LyX insists on having a native format of XML, which by its nature is human-confusing, it should at least be *well formed* XML so that it can be handled by an XML parser, and if the programmer is more skilled

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:39:09 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: 1) If LyX insists on having a native format of XML, which by its nature is human-confusing, it should at least be *well formed* XML so that it

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:03 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Liviu, You *do* mean *well formed* XML-based native format, right? Yeah, we might as well: We've already done about all the human readability damage we can do to the format. If it were well formed, at least it

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:03 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Liviu, You *do* mean *well formed* XML-based native format, right? Yeah, we might as well: We've already done about all the human

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:05:57 -0500 Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:53:49 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 11:36 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:05:57 -0500 Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 11:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:53:49 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: 1) If LyX insists on having a native format of XML, which by its nature is human-confusing, it should at least be *well formed* XML so that it can be handled by an XML parser, and if the programmer is more skilled

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:39:09 +0100 Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Richard Heck rgh...@lyx.org wrote: 1) If LyX insists on having a native format of XML, which by its nature is human-confusing, it should at least be *well formed* XML so that it

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:03 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Liviu, You *do* mean *well formed* XML-based native format, right? Yeah, we might as well: We've already done about all the human readability damage we can do to the format. If it were well formed, at least it

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:03 -0500 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Liviu, You *do* mean *well formed* XML-based native format, right? Yeah, we might as well: We've already done about all the human

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:05:57 -0500 Richard Heck wrote: > On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > > Dear Steve and Alex, > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 > >> Alex Fernandez

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:53:49 +0100 Liviu Andronic wrote: > Dear Steve and Alex, > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt > wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 > > Alex Fernandez wrote: > >> > Ladies and

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 11:36 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:05:57 -0500 Richard Heck wrote: On 02/03/2014 01:53 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On 02/03/2014 11:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:53:49 +0100 Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote: >> 1) If LyX insists on having a native format of XML, which by its nature >> is human-confusing, it should at least be *well formed* XML so that >> it can be handled by an XML parser, and if the programmer is more >>

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:39:09 +0100 Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > >> 1) If LyX insists on having a native format of XML, which by its > >> nature is human-confusing, it should at least be *well formed* XML >

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:03 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Liviu, > > You *do* mean *well formed* XML-based native format, right? > > Yeah, we might as well: We've already done about all the human > readability damage we can do to the format. If it were well formed, at >

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:03 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > >> Liviu, >> >> You *do* mean *well formed* XML-based native format, right? >> >> Yeah, we might as well: We've already done about

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 05:53:59 +1100 Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the configuration options that might help with the problems that you identify

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

SNIP And instead of using the LyX exporters, try tex4ht to make the html file. I think I tried lyx-latex-tex4ht once before, and something went wrong, though I no longer remember what. And process the html file through tidy before using Pandoc. That's a good idea, although Python's

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve, On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX to Mobi

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX to Mobi

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 05:53:59 +1100 Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the configuration options that might help with the problems that you identify

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

SNIP And instead of using the LyX exporters, try tex4ht to make the html file. I think I tried lyx-latex-tex4ht once before, and something went wrong, though I no longer remember what. And process the html file through tidy before using Pandoc. That's a good idea, although Python's

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Steve, On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX to Mobi

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez ely...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX to Mobi

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Sun, 02 Feb 2014 05:53:59 +1100 Alan L Tyree wrote: > Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've > only used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at > the configuration options that might help with the problems that you >

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

>> And instead of using the LyX >> exporters, try tex4ht to make the html file. > > I think I tried lyx->latex->tex4ht once before, and something went > wrong, though I no longer remember what. > >> And process the html file >> through tidy before using Pandoc. > > That's a good idea, although

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 Alex Fernandez wrote: > Hi Steve, > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt > wrote: > > > Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince > > us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Dear Steve and Alex, On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:33:02 +0100 > Alex Fernandez wrote: >> > Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince >> > us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100 Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc? Cheers, Alan Hi Alan, I

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the configuration options that might help with the problems that you identify below. One last approach might be interesting to try: What about LyX - (X)html,

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100 Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc? Cheers, Alan Hi Alan, I

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the configuration options that might help with the problems that you identify below. One last approach might be interesting to try: What about LyX - (X)html,

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:25:58 +1100 Alan L Tyree wrote: > Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an > ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. > > Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc? > > Cheers, > Alan Hi

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Well, that's a bit disappointing. Thanks for the full report. I've only used Pandoc for simple conversions, so haven't looked deeply at the configuration options that might help with the problems that you identify below. One last approach might be interesting to try: What about LyX -> (X)html,

We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:35:46 + Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: This is for printed books. As regards conversion to ebook format, I've done this for several books on Smashwords, but that is quite a long-winded process because it has to be Word.doc format, which I do in

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc? Cheers, Alan Steve Litt writes: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:35:46 + Anthony Campbell

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

I'm CC'ing Josh Hieronymus, who has worked on some of this for GSoC. He is probably busy with other things, but maybe he is still interested. Scott On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an ePub

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Hi Steve, On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX to Mobi conversion (do ePub first, you can convert ePub into Mobi), then nothing will. Instead

We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:35:46 + Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: This is for printed books. As regards conversion to ebook format, I've done this for several books on Smashwords, but that is quite a long-winded process because it has to be Word.doc format, which I do in

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc? Cheers, Alan Steve Litt writes: On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:35:46 + Anthony Campbell

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

I'm CC'ing Josh Hieronymus, who has worked on some of this for GSoC. He is probably busy with other things, but maybe he is still interested. Scott On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an ePub

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Hi Steve, On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.comwrote: Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX to Mobi conversion (do ePub first, you can convert ePub into Mobi), then nothing will. Instead

We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:35:46 + Anthony Campbell wrote: > This is for printed books. As regards conversion to ebook format, I've > done this for several books on Smashwords, but that is quite a > long-winded process because it has to be Word.doc format, which I do > in

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an ePub exporter for LyX would make it a killer application. Thanks for your comments, Steve. Have you looked at Pandoc? Cheers, Alan Steve Litt writes: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:35:46 + > Anthony Campbell

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

I'm CC'ing Josh Hieronymus, who has worked on some of this for GSoC. He is probably busy with other things, but maybe he is still interested. Scott On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote: > Sorry for the top posting, but this is short. My own view is that an >

Re: We need ePub/Mobi conversion: was: Book Frontmatter

Hi Steve, On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Ladies and gentlemen, if the preceding paragraph doesn't convince us we > need a good, solid, LyX to ePub and LyX to Mobi conversion (do ePub > first, you can convert ePub into Mobi), then nothing will.