Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-07 Thread Tom Goldring via lyx-users
Setting the environment to "Standard" and indenting did exactly what I 
wanted. Thanks to everyone who responded!


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Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-05 Thread Steve Litt via lyx-users
Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users said on Sat, 5 Feb 2022 16:04:28 -0500

>On 2/5/22 15:57, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:
>> On 2022-02-05 16:23, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:  
>>> On 2022-02-05 16:21, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:  
 On 2022-02-05 07:25, Tom Goldring via lyx-users wrote:  
> Suppose I have an itemized list like
>
>     paragraph 1
>
>    - paragraph 2
>
>     paragraph 3
>
> where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the 
> "itemize" environment, then typing

[snip]


 Try setting paragraph 3 with the Standard layout and indent it.
 Hope I understood what you meant.  
>>>
>>> By "indent it", I meant "increase the depth" (by pressing the tab 
>>> key, for example).  
>>
>> Paul's answer makes me think that my answer wasn't fully clear. So, 
>> I'll attach an example document. Looks reasonable in LyX' work area
>> too.
>>
>> Daniel
>>  
>I grafted my answer onto Daniel's example (as paragraphs 4 through 6), 
>and the PDF output shows no differences that I can see between the two 
>approaches.
>
>Paul

The OP's question was ambiguous because he showed no bullets at level
1. He's received an easy and correct answer from three different
people, in a timely manner. The OP has not responded. This was the OP's
one and only post to this list. At this point I think we can mark this
issue as closed.

SteveT

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Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-05 Thread Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users

On 2/5/22 15:57, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:

On 2022-02-05 16:23, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:

On 2022-02-05 16:21, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:

On 2022-02-05 07:25, Tom Goldring via lyx-users wrote:

Suppose I have an itemized list like

    paragraph 1

   - paragraph 2

    paragraph 3

where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the 
"itemize" environment, then typing


paragraph 1   paragraph 2   
paragraph 3


LyX creates paragraph 3 as a new item. Is there a way to have 
paragraph 3 not be a new item? For example, if I enter paragraph 3 
in the "Quote" environment, it will look like I want it to on the 
left (i.e. it will have the same indentation as paragraph 1 without 
the large dot that indicates a new item) but if it's a long 
paragraph it will also be indented on the right, which I don't 
want. In other words, I would like it to have the same indentation 
(both right and left) as if paragraph 3 were a new item, but 
without the dot preceding paragraph 3. Hope this makes sense.


Try setting paragraph 3 with the Standard layout and indent it. Hope 
I understood what you meant.


By "indent it", I meant "increase the depth" (by pressing the tab 
key, for example).


Paul's answer makes me think that my answer wasn't fully clear. So, 
I'll attach an example document. Looks reasonable in LyX' work area too.


Daniel

I grafted my answer onto Daniel's example (as paragraphs 4 through 6), 
and the PDF output shows no differences that I can see between the two 
approaches.


Paul

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Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-05 Thread Daniel via lyx-users

On 2022-02-05 16:23, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:

On 2022-02-05 16:21, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:

On 2022-02-05 07:25, Tom Goldring via lyx-users wrote:

Suppose I have an itemized list like

    paragraph 1

   - paragraph 2

    paragraph 3

where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the 
"itemize" environment, then typing


paragraph 1   paragraph 2   paragraph 3

LyX creates paragraph 3 as a new item. Is there a way to have 
paragraph 3 not be a new item? For example, if I enter paragraph 3 in 
the "Quote" environment, it will look like I want it to on the left 
(i.e. it will have the same indentation as paragraph 1 without the 
large dot that indicates a new item) but if it's a long paragraph it 
will also be indented on the right, which I don't want. In other 
words, I would like it to have the same indentation (both right and 
left) as if paragraph 3 were a new item, but without the dot 
preceding paragraph 3. Hope this makes sense.


Try setting paragraph 3 with the Standard layout and indent it. Hope I 
understood what you meant.


By "indent it", I meant "increase the depth" (by pressing the tab key, 
for example).


Paul's answer makes me think that my answer wasn't fully clear. So, I'll 
attach an example document. Looks reasonable in LyX' work area too.


Daniel
#LyX 2.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
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Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-05 Thread Steve Litt via lyx-users
Tom Goldring via lyx-users said on Sat, 5 Feb 2022 01:25:33 -0500

>Suppose I have an itemized list like
>
>    paragraph 1
>
>   - paragraph 2
>
>    paragraph 3
>
>where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the "itemize" 
>environment, then typing
>
>paragraph 1   paragraph 2   paragraph 3
>
>LyX creates paragraph 3 as a new item. Is there a way to have
>paragraph 3 not be a new item? 

Yes. In the LyX environment, press the Enter key twice, and you'll
start a new paragraph. If for some reason that doesn't work, go to the
Environment dropdown and chooose Standard.

SteveT

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Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-05 Thread Paul A. Rubin via lyx-users

On 2/5/22 01:25, Tom Goldring via lyx-users wrote:

Suppose I have an itemized list like

   paragraph 1

  - paragraph 2

   paragraph 3

where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the "itemize" 
environment, then typing


paragraph 1   paragraph 2   paragraph 3

LyX creates paragraph 3 as a new item. Is there a way to have 
paragraph 3 not be a new item? For example, if I enter paragraph 3 in 
the "Quote" environment, it will look like I want it to on the left 
(i.e. it will have the same indentation as paragraph 1 without the 
large dot that indicates a new item) but if it's a long paragraph it 
will also be indented on the right, which I don't want. In other 
words, I would like it to have the same indentation (both right and 
left) as if paragraph 3 were a new item, but without the dot preceding 
paragraph 3. Hope this makes sense.
After doing everything as above, with the cursor in paragraph 3, use 
Insert > Custom Item to open a custom item inset. Leave the inset empty. 
I would put it at the start of the paragraph (just after the bullet 
inserted by LyX) for neatness, but I don't think it actually matters 
where in the paragraph you put it. The undesired bullet will still 
appear in the LyX GUI, but when you view the document it should be gone.


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Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-05 Thread Daniel via lyx-users

On 2022-02-05 16:21, Daniel via lyx-users wrote:

On 2022-02-05 07:25, Tom Goldring via lyx-users wrote:

Suppose I have an itemized list like

    paragraph 1

   - paragraph 2

    paragraph 3

where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the "itemize" 
environment, then typing


paragraph 1   paragraph 2   paragraph 3

LyX creates paragraph 3 as a new item. Is there a way to have 
paragraph 3 not be a new item? For example, if I enter paragraph 3 in 
the "Quote" environment, it will look like I want it to on the left 
(i.e. it will have the same indentation as paragraph 1 without the 
large dot that indicates a new item) but if it's a long paragraph it 
will also be indented on the right, which I don't want. In other 
words, I would like it to have the same indentation (both right and 
left) as if paragraph 3 were a new item, but without the dot preceding 
paragraph 3. Hope this makes sense.


Try setting paragraph 3 with the Standard layout and indent it. Hope I 
understood what you meant.


By "indent it", I meant "increase the depth" (by pressing the tab key, 
for example).


Daniel



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Re: question about "itemize"

2022-02-05 Thread Daniel via lyx-users

On 2022-02-05 07:25, Tom Goldring via lyx-users wrote:

Suppose I have an itemized list like

    paragraph 1

   - paragraph 2

    paragraph 3

where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the "itemize" 
environment, then typing


paragraph 1   paragraph 2   paragraph 3

LyX creates paragraph 3 as a new item. Is there a way to have paragraph 
3 not be a new item? For example, if I enter paragraph 3 in the "Quote" 
environment, it will look like I want it to on the left (i.e. it will 
have the same indentation as paragraph 1 without the large dot that 
indicates a new item) but if it's a long paragraph it will also be 
indented on the right, which I don't want. In other words, I would like 
it to have the same indentation (both right and left) as if paragraph 3 
were a new item, but without the dot preceding paragraph 3. Hope this 
makes sense.


Try setting paragraph 3 with the Standard layout and indent it. Hope I 
understood what you meant.


Daniel


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question about "itemize"

2022-02-04 Thread Tom Goldring via lyx-users

Suppose I have an itemized list like

   paragraph 1

  - paragraph 2

   paragraph 3

where paragraph 2 is nested. If I enter this by choosing the "itemize" 
environment, then typing


paragraph 1   paragraph 2   paragraph 3

LyX creates paragraph 3 as a new item. Is there a way to have paragraph 
3 not be a new item? For example, if I enter paragraph 3 in the "Quote" 
environment, it will look like I want it to on the left (i.e. it will 
have the same indentation as paragraph 1 without the large dot that 
indicates a new item) but if it's a long paragraph it will also be 
indented on the right, which I don't want. In other words, I would like 
it to have the same indentation (both right and left) as if paragraph 3 
were a new item, but without the dot preceding paragraph 3. Hope this 
makes sense.

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