Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-05-29 Thread Scott McDonnell
, and a UI that fits in with the M100. I haven’t fully hashed out the story yet, just kind of a visual concept in my head that plays out on my inner chalkboard. Scott M. From: _ Comet To: "m100@lists.bitchin100.com" , "m...@bitchin100.com" Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-05-27 Thread _ Comet
https://ftp.whtech.com/club100/doc/p100-9002.pdf Article on adding a serial mouse to Model 100 in February 1990 Portable 100. Comet On Sunday, January 10, 2021, 03:06:26 PM PST, Hiraghm wrote: I have two Gravis Stinger joypads, (which are still available new on Amazon).

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread mcdonnell.junk
Date: 1/6/21 2:56 PM (GMT-05:00) To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 Right, ISTR that  a serial mouse can be usedOn Wed, 6 Jan 2021 at 07:54, MikeS wrote: I haven't seen a joystick article for the Model T but there's a mouse driver in Feb/90 P.8   m

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread Peter Vollan
00.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:30 AM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 > > I can't quote the issue and page but I do recall there being an article in > Portable 100 magazine about connecting a joystick to the Model T computers. > > > <http://

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread Stephen Adolph
PRINT "*" > 130 IF D%=0 THEN PRINT " D" ELSE PRINT " *" > 140 IF B%=0 THEN PRINT "BTN" ELSE PRINT " * " > 150 PRINT CHR$(11); > 160 GOTO 50 > > The assembler code on line 20 is as follows (needs a bitmask in A, > outputs jo

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread MikeS
I haven't seen a joystick article for the Model T but there's a mouse driver in Feb/90 P.8 m - Original Message - From: Lee Kelley To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 I can't quote the issue and page

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-06 Thread MikeS
Original Message - From: Brian White To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 2:55 PM Jim Anderson wrote: > -Original Message- > For input, there are only 2 s

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-05 Thread Brian White
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021, 2:55 PM Jim Anderson wrote: > > -Original Message- > > For input, there are only 2 signals, BUSY and BUSY_N. Each of these can > > be read independenty. > > As I recall, the way it worked was that the five switches (directional > switches and fire) were wired to the

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Lee Kelley
I can't quote the issue and page but I do recall there being an article in Portable 100 magazine about connecting a joystick to the Model T computers. Virus-free. www.avg.com

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Daryl Tester
On 5/1/21 6:24 am, Jim Anderson wrote: As I recall, the way it worked was that the five switches (directional switches and fire) were wired to the first five output bits, and the common return from all five switches was wired to BUSY. To poll the joystick you'd cycle through outputting ASCII

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Birt
Brilliant! A unique way around every problem. Jeff Birt -Original Message- From: M100 On Behalf Of Jim Anderson Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 1:55 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 > -Original Message- > For input, there are only 2 s

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > For input, there are only 2 signals, BUSY and BUSY_N.  Each of these can > be read independenty. As I recall, the way it worked was that the five switches (directional switches and fire) were wired to the first five output bits, and the common return from all five

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Scott McDonnell
Subject: Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100 The Centronics standard has 5 dedicated input status lines. And you only need 5 signal pins for an Atari joystick.  Is it possible to read the pins directly? If so, then it should be possible. Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com (619)940-6311  K6ABZ On Mon, Jan 4

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Ken Pettit
As Steve mentioned, the M100 parallel port is non-standard. It has output buffers with series resistors on all of the data output pins. This means they cannot be used for either input or for any meanigful power harvesting. For input, there are only 2 signals, BUSY and BUSY_N. Each of these

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Tom Wilson
The Centronics standard has 5 dedicated input status lines. And you only need 5 signal pins for an Atari joystick. Is it possible to read the pins directly? If so, then it should be possible. Tom Wilson wilso...@gmail.com (619)940-6311 K6ABZ On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:42 AM Stephen Adolph

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Stephen Adolph
m100 parallel port is output only except for the printer status lines. GPO yes but not GPI... On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:39 PM Tom Wilson wrote: > > Seems to me that somebody had a scheme a while back where the joystick > interfaced with the parallel port and status was polled that way (this >

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Tom Wilson
> Seems to me that somebody had a scheme a while back where the joystick interfaced with the parallel port and status was polled that way (this avoids having to build a custom interface). Yeah, we used to use the parallel port for a lot of things, back in the DOS days; it doesn't take much to

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > > The problem with an Atari style joystick is that it uses a common > > ground. This means all of the keys to operate a game would need > > His device was smart and interfaced with the system bus and was > accessed via an IO port. Seems to me that somebody had a

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:21 PM Tom Wilson wrote: > > The problem with an Atari style joystick is that it uses a common ground. > This means all of the keys to operate a game would need to be on the same row > or column. I don't know the matrix layout of the Model T's keyboard, so it > might

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Tom Wilson
The problem with an Atari style joystick is that it uses a common ground. This means all of the keys to operate a game would need to be on the same row or column. I don't know the matrix layout of the Model T's keyboard, so it might not be possible to actually wire this to any rational control

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Josh Malone
List member Peter Noeth showed off an Atari joystick interface for M100 on the TRS-80 Trash Talk live show over the weekend. Hopefully he'll be ready to share more details soon. -Josh On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 2:12 PM Jeffrey Birt wrote: > > I would think this could be done with an externally

Re: [M100] Joystick for the M100

2021-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Birt
I would think this could be done with an externally connected device and a small ‘driver’. Of course, I have never tried to do anything like this on an M100, so I have no real idea what I’m talking about. Just thinking of a driver that gets ‘hooked’ into the OS that can insert keystrokes into