[M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

[Jesus R]

Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I just purchased a T100 and it
should arrive soon:) I noticed the NADSBox has been discontinued or out of
stock. I'm happy to help to get more made and the proceeds can all go to
the club. Is there anyone to talk to about the design and firmware?

Also, anyone have an extra internal memory module for sale?

Thank You,

JR

[M100] I/O error with disk drive

[Jesus R]

Kurt, you were right. Funny thing is I had it apart yesterday and even
after spinning the large pulley it looked like the belt was okay. Turns out
it was denigrated and what was left was tar in its place...what a mess to
clean it. I'll check out the link you provided next.

Thanks,

JR

On Tue, Tue, 21 Aug 2018 08:01:10 -0700, Kurt wrote:

The drive belt it likely broken. Mine wasn't but it was too stretched to
work. It's one of the common repairs that have to be done to get those
drives up and running.
Information on how to do that can be found here:
www.club100.org/library/sup/tddbelt.txt

Kurt

[M100] I/O error with disk drive

[Jesus R]

Team, I got the drive working. Power was not making its way to the main
board from the batteries. This was because the metal wire for the + side of
the top battery was not making contact with the battery. I aligned the
metal wire with the battery and was then able to load floopy.co and
subsequently view and load the content of some disks that came with the
kit. Thanks to all that pitched in!

JR

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> I'm playing with Teensy 3.5 and 3.6 myself right now. They have sd slot
> built in and, and of course serial minus the max232, and seemingly gobs
> more cpu and ram than needed for this task, considering what a real tpdd
> itself has to do almost the same job. And unlike Tinyduino, the io pins are
> all accessible directly, no extra breakout board shield needed to hook up
> the max232-alike. And the "SdFat" add-on library now has native support for
> the teensy 3.5/3.6 special sd reader.
>
> It seems like these controllers should not have any problem supporting full
> normal fat32 filesystem and serial and tpdd server, but for lower-spec
> controllers, it might be an interesting option to just forgo any filesystem
> or even partition tables and just treat the sd card as raw space the same
> way the tpdd itself does, like M1SE & M3SE do on Model I/III. It's a lot
> less convenient for interoperability with other OS's, but it's still
> interesting and potentially useful compared to an actual tpdd, without
> requiring a full pc just to run a normal tpdd server.
>
> Another
>  challenge is power. Teensy 3.5/3.6 definitely draw way too much power to
> scavenge from the serial port. But maybe
> not...
> Maybe
> it's possible to have a tiny lipo that charges at
> 5 or
> 10ma while the M100 is turned on and the tpdduino is connected
> but idle?
>
> Teensy 3.6 draws 80ma, plus the sdcard itself draws more but only very
> briefly while operating, and a tiny drone lipo is 150mah, so it could run
> the teensy for almost 2 hours of continuous use without even getting any
> power from the M100. That already probably tranlates into days or weeks of
> normal use between recharges, where the tpdd is really only active for 1
> second and then idle for 1800 seconds. So even without parasitic trickle
> charging, just having a tiny built-in lipo and a microusb port to charge up
> would already be good enough, but with that kind of extreme duty cycle
> ratio like 1:1800, charging at even 5 or 10 ma in between transfers is
> probably enough to keep the lipo charged all the time forever, other than
> going dead on the shelf while turned all the way off for 6 months.
>
> I know modern max232 alternatives can power themselves entirely from the
> serial port, have their own charge pumps & caps built-in, and power
> themselves off when there is no ser

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

[Jesus R]

Thanks for the tips Ken!

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Some updates:

I have been testing the save and load function via a Logitech USB to
earphone and microphone interface. This interface came with a gaming
headset. I'm using Audacity to capture and play the file for loading and
saving them on my T100.

As a proof of concept I have some files you can try posted on a temp Google
spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_
RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit#gid=0

Setup:
1. Connect the T100's cassette cable to the headphone and microphone jack
of the USB interface. Some computers have these built in.
2. Make sure the volume for the headphone output is 100% and bit perfect.
3. From Basic enter this command which helps with saving the files - sound
off.
4. From Basic enter this command which will clear any pre-existing programs
- new.
5. From the TRS-80 Model 100 manual follow the instruction on page 191 for
Loading a Basic Program from Tape. Here is a link to the manual:
http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/kyocera/manual.pdf
Example of filename (caps matter and it must match) - TPL.BA, ZOIDS.BA
6. From Basic enter this command which will confirm you received the code -
LIST
7. Finally, don't forget to save the file to your T100.

Let me know any questions or comments.

JR

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

[Jesus R]

Ken, you have been a busy guy:) I didn't realize you were behind the
Virtual-T project. Is it possible to copy and paste code into it? Also,
would a TPDD work with it? If so, it would help me tremendously with my WAV
archiving project.

Thank You,

Jesus R

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Jesus R  wrote:

> Thanks for the advise everyone. I may need to look at one of these
> options. My unit arrived today and is very nice. However, the disk drive is
> giving me I/O error so something is up with it or the cable:( I followed
> the club 100 manual, but no cigar.
>
> I ordered the RAM from Gregory and looking forward to that.
>
> JR
>
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> wrote:
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>>4. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Gregory McGill)
>>5. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Kurt McCullum)
>>6. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (Brian White)
>>7. Re: New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) (c646581)
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>> From: Adam Murray 
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>> I have the memory modules at arcadeshopper.com and also a android based
>> tpdd solution
>>
>> Greg
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[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Team, I'm thinking of starting a program library in WAV format and list the
programs in Google Docs. This allows us to use any digital wav playback
scheme to quickly load the programs into our machine. One source for
programs are the magazines in the club's archives. Any comments or
suggestions?

Thanks,

JR

[M100] I/O error with disk drive

[Jesus R]

Team, after placing a new belt on the Tandy portable disk drive I still get
an error when trying to initialize it:

?ao error in 10 trs 80

It sits there and looks dead and is silent. I'll check the out of the power
board next.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Team, what was I thinkingFLAC is better using less space and has Tags.

Josh, thanks for the Virtual-T suggestion.
bogus maximus that is funny!

JR

[M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

Today I tested a different Windows computer running Virtual T and still no
luck. I just can't push data from the PC to my T100/T102?

[M100] T100/T102

[Jesus R]

Does anyone know the DC power pin configuration? Is center pin negative
like the Tandy portable tape drive?

[M100] Paladin Measuring System

[Jesus R]

I recently bought a T102 from eBay. It came with a Paladin Measuring System
(PMS), connection cable, soft carrying case, power cord, and light pen. The
manual and option rom are missing and the unit has a bad orange cap inside.
I don't need the PMS, but if any one wants its I'm willing to give it away
if it goes to good home. I'll ship anywhere in the US. Please no resellers
though.

[M100] Paladin Measuring System

[Jesus R]

You use the pen to click on points on a drawing and it calculates
perimeter, area, etc.

what is it?

[M100] T100/T102

[Jesus R]

I appreciate the info. I have a small linear supply with a y-adapter and
can place a plug inline that swaps the pins. This way I can power the drive
and the computer at the same time.

-
Yes, center negative.
-

Yes, center is negative, the barrel is positive on my Tandy Portable
Computer  AC Adapter Cat no. 26-3804.

 120vac input, 60 hz, 8 Watt.

 6vDC output, 400 ma.

[M100] Paladin Measuring System

[Jesus R]

That would be cool. It needs the ROM, but I haven't found much on it...not
even a manual for it.

Hello, Jesus - thanks, I didn’t realize it was for that purpose.  I’d
thought it was an analog-to-digital converter for measuring low-voltage
analog signals.  I love experimenting with things like that, but I’m
wondering  - is the device “unusable” without the ROM software?  I have a
REX and could conceivably download the ROM software if available somewhere,
but I don’t have experience with that.  (My REX is currently
underutilized.  I use it for backups and to help organize my files, mainly.)

Best wishes,
Anthony

[M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

I'm trying to load software downloaded from the internet.

*Josh Malone* josh.malone at gmail.com

*Sun Sep 9 14:15:11 PDT 2018*
--

What's the actual thing that you are trying to accomplish? Why are you
involving V-T?

[M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

Team, I have a strange issue. I'm able to pass data from my m102 to my PC
running VirtualT. I'm in Basic on the M102 and I'm using VirtualT in Basic
on the PC both set to SAVE/LOAD via COM:58N1E. The PC has a USB to serial
cable connected to a null modem 9 pin to 25 pin cable in series. I'm able
to send data from the M102 to the PC, but not the other way around? I get
on OK, but no data transfer over.

Also, I'm able to connect both machines via Telcom on the M102 and Putty on
the PC and talk back and forth between the two computer.

Thank you in advance,

Jesus R

[M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

Okay...I'll have a look at them. Thanks.

Use LaddieAlpha or mComm or dlplus for that.

[M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

Brian, I tried LaddieCon on PC and Floopy.co on my T100 and that worked
very nicely...thanks!

[M100] call for programs and games

[Jesus R]

Team, I now have: 1. Simple communication between my computer and my T100.
2. I can also save files from my T100 as WAV files and upload them to
Google Docs for easy download on the go via a cell phone or computer. I
only have a few programs and games to add to my database though. If you can
send me your programs and games...I'll start adding them to my database so
everyone can access them. The programs and games should be freeware /
shareware.

Link to database:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit?usp=sharing

Please submit the following with your files:
1. Author name
2. Program name
3. Genre: game, utility, etc.
4. Year

Re: [M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

Hi Ken, that log displays the content of the data I'm trying to transfer.
It looks like
it's trying.

Thanks.

JR

Hi JR,

Also, in VirtualT, under the Tools -> Peripheral Devices -> COM tab,
there is an "Enable Capture" checkbox that will cause all RX and all TX
data flowing through the COM port to be displayed. You can check if
BASIC is actually sending data to the UART by checking this capture report.

Ken


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:52 PM, Jesus R  wrote:

> John, I tried the flow control setting and no difference.
>
> Probably flow control or vt settings.
>
> Make sure vt is configured for a real com port not Tpdd Or something else.
>
> Might need to check flow control in VT.
>
> -- John.
>
>
>

Re: [M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

Yes. I can and it works fine in both directions.


Can you pass data in both directions from a simple serial terminal on
your PC? Without flow control involved on either end?

Try "cool term" if you need a Windows serial terminal that's easy to
deal with. If you can't pass traffic or you get serial framing errors,
you might have a bad serial port / UART on your Model 100.

-Josh


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Jesus R  wrote:

> Hi Ken, that log displays the content of the data I'm trying to transfer.
> It looks like
> it's trying.
>
> Thanks.
>
> JR
>
> Hi JR,
>
> Also, in VirtualT, under the Tools -> Peripheral Devices -> COM tab,
> there is an "Enable Capture" checkbox that will cause all RX and all TX
> data flowing through the COM port to be displayed. You can check if
> BASIC is actually sending data to the UART by checking this capture report.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:52 PM, Jesus R  wrote:
>
>> John, I tried the flow control setting and no difference.
>>
>> Probably flow control or vt settings.
>>
>> Make sure vt is configured for a real com port not Tpdd Or something else.
>>
>> Might need to check flow control in VT.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

John, I tried the flow control setting and no difference.

Probably flow control or vt settings.

Make sure vt is configured for a real com port not Tpdd Or something else.

Might need to check flow control in VT.

-- John.

Re: [M100] serial connection issue

[Jesus R]

Thanks Jeff. I tried it as a check and was surprised it worked there.

Oh - nevermind. I saw that you already verified your basic serial
stuff in putty.


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 7:26 PM, Jesus R  wrote:

> Yes. I can and it works fine in both directions.
>
>
> Can you pass data in both directions from a simple serial terminal on
> your PC? Without flow control involved on either end?
>
> Try "cool term" if you need a Windows serial terminal that's easy to
> deal with. If you can't pass traffic or you get serial framing errors,
> you might have a bad serial port / UART on your Model 100.
>
> -Josh
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Jesus R  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken, that log displays the content of the data I'm trying to transfer.
>> It looks like
>> it's trying.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> Hi JR,
>>
>> Also, in VirtualT, under the Tools -> Peripheral Devices -> COM tab,
>> there is an "Enable Capture" checkbox that will cause all RX and all TX
>> data flowing through the COM port to be displayed. You can check if
>> BASIC is actually sending data to the UART by checking this capture report.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 6:52 PM, Jesus R  wrote:
>>
>>> John, I tried the flow control setting and no difference.
>>>
>>> Probably flow control or vt settings.
>>>
>>> Make sure vt is configured for a real com port not Tpdd Or something else.
>>>
>>> Might need to check flow control in VT.
>>>
>>> -- John.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

[Jesus R]

Ken, any chance I can buy a NADSBox from you? It would really help with my
WAV archiving project.

Thanks,

JR


On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Jesus R  wrote:

> Thanks for the tips Ken!
>
> Jesus R
>

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Your welcome and I'm glad it's working out. The system is dialed in now and
I'm happy to share the setup.

There are several tasks and I'll explain each below:
1. Download the files and rename them on my computer - I'm not really sure
this step is needed, but it doesn't take up much time since I'm using a
naming changer application to bulk change .ba to .do in the file name.

2. Load the files a few at a time into my T100 and play them back into my
capture device - In order to transmit data back to the unit I'm using a USB
to serial cable and null modem cable. Because of limited space you can only
load so many programs at a time. Teeny has been helpful here because it's a
small and effective application and works with the drive emulator Laddiecon
running on my PC from DOS. After loading a batch use these command in
series on the unit: load"filename, csave"filename.ba, kill"filename.do,
new.

3. Post capture processing - For capturing I'm using my sons gaming
headphone USB to Logitech microphone/headphone adapter which support 44.1
captures and playback. I'm using Audacity set to record and play from the
Logitech device, Windows Direct Sound, sample rate of 44.1, playback volume
100%, record volume 100%, and record in mono. These are all selected from
the main screen of Audacity. First you press Record and then you
enter csave"filename.ba on the unit and when its done I stop the recoding
right away. This produced a recoding that is way to low for direct usage at
around -31db. I now move the cursor over the recording and press Control
and Alt together to select the entire recording. Then I go to Effect and
select Amplitude and add 25db to the recording and press Enter. This volume
gain allows you to play back the track at 100% volume on your source and
have the level be just right for the unit to accept it.

4. Prepare the Google Excel sheet and upload the files to my website and
they are ready for use.

Let me know any questions you might still have.

Jesus R

---

Thanks for setting this up!  I’ve downloaded several games and a couple of
utilities through my iPhone, with no problem.  A simple joy from the user’s
perspective, but I realize it represents a lot of work behind the scenes.

Perhaps I missed it in a prior part of the thread, but it would be great to
document your lessons learned in terms of how to save files in a reliably
shareable digital audio format - what sort of processing you had to do in
Audacity, etc.  I’ve tried using a good quality digital recorder before in
place of a cassette tape recorder, and at least for me, it didn’t “just
work...”  :)  Clearly, I didn’t stumble on quite the right combination of
parameters.

Best wishes,
Anthony

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

It's working fine here:) If you use the recoding as is it will be to low to
be useful. This is why I increase the amplitude in software by +25db. This
produces playback of about -6db and free of clipping and the unit finds and
loads data effortlessly without the use of an inline amplifier. Phones,
computers, and iPods all work here with volume set to 100%.

_

I must say I am surprised that i have not heard people getting unrepeatable
results using .WAV audacity files.

Where I left this off myself, in my own efforts, is that the typical 1Vpp
signal swing generated by most modern earbud type audio devices (phones,
mp3 players etc) is not sufficient to drive the M100 input reliably.

It works sometimes and not others.

M100 is meant to have 4Vpp drive  IIRC.

I basically gave up on this, since I didnt want to have a post-amplifier...

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

I forgot to mention in step 3 that once I have the file adjusted for
amplitude I just export the file to WAV saving the album and genre tags as
prompted. I then got o File and select Close and do not save the session
when prompted.

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

The idea is to play the file you need directly into the unit. The browser
plays the file on click to no need to drag and drop anything.

MP3's filter out certain frequencies and I rather not worry if its okay in
all cases.

--

hi, can we download all the files from a simple directory, rather than a
spreadsheet?  It would be a lot faster!  drag and drop...

Sorry if you answered this already but how important was using .WAV file vs
.MP3?


thanks

[M100] hi-memory and programs

[Jesus R]

This is great information and explains some of the oddities I have been
experiencing. When I copy the teeny.co file from Rex to the unit it just
beeps when I select it, but no additional information is printed out.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Team, the programs in the Games, Drives, Utilities, Text, Programming,
Education, and Print tabs are up.

new shorter link to archive:www.sonore.us/m100

Jesus R

[M100] repair services

[Jesus R]

No worries...I'm sure there are some followers in your part of the world.



FWIW, I offer repair service for most 8 bit architectures and other
vintage electronic devices. However, I'm located in Italy, the second
most expensive country for shipping costs that I'm aware of.

Frank

[M100] repair services

[Jesus R]

Is there anyone offering repair services for the T100/200/600?

[M100] repair services

[Jesus R]

At the moment...I'm just asking out of curiosity because the club100.org
site is in limbo.

-

I'm very close to starting to offer general 8-bit repairs, though I'm
still selective about the jobs I take (mostly due to parts and
experience).

As Jeff asked, what exactly is the issue with your machine?

[M100] repair services

[Jesus R]

It was me:) In general I though it would be a good idea to have some go to
people for repairs. Specifically, I was going to get a unit that had some
screen issues so I could donate it to a YouTube guy for a series he is
working on.

[M100] repair services

[Jesus R]

Great to know. I'll try to catch up on your work as well.


I can vouch for Josh!  He did an amazing job on my recalcitrant M100’s!

Randy Kindig
Floppy Days.com

[M100] Tandy Assembly

[Jesus R]

Can someone take video for those of stuck home and drop it on YouTube?

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Team, the programs in the Games, Drives, Utilities, Text, Programming,
Education, Print, Telcom & BBS, and Graphics & Timers tabs are up.

new shorter link to archive:www.sonore.us/m100

Jesus R

[M100] hi-memory and programs

[Jesus R]

Can someone please explain hi-memory on the T100 and if some programs need
to be placed there for use?

Jesus R

[M100] SARNEC.CO ............again

[Jesus R]

I have a file named sardnec in a folder named ROMs. I have no idea what it
is or if it's a .co file though:) If I open it with Notepad++ its two digit
HEX.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

This is actually something I looked into with a friend. I even tested the
CAS2WAV application on the off chance that it could work, but I could not
get it to work. I'm not a coder so someone else would have to take up the
effort to modify it. In the meantime I'll continue with the slo-mo scheme:)

_

One other idea that hasn't been explored is modifying CAS2WAV code to
work for the M100. Then we could generate perfect files rapidly.

[M100] SARNEC.CO ............again

[Jesus R]

Okay. Is it part of the ultimate rom II sample files?

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

I'm not using a custom cable and it's working fine here. These files are
already amplified digitally by +25db.

Link to WAV archive: www.sonore.us/m100

Jesus R

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initiate time travel device.

you got me
Thu 8/3/2017, 4:32 AM
The m100 can receive files via the cassette port from almost any audio
source. The trick is to use a an audio transformer. Something like an
8 ohm to 1.2k ohm. The 8 ohm end connects to the output of the audio
device. The 1.2k ohm end connects to the ear end of the m100 cassette
cable.  I have done many experiments with this over the years.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

My goals are simple...have access to the files on the go via my computer or
phone. The files are archived in lossless WAV and anyone that wants to
convert them to lossy MP3 is welcome to. I'm not going to apply additional
filtering and in my use case I'm not worried about the files size.

Link to WAV archive: www.sonore.us/m100

Jesus R

-

I played a bit with Audacity, and I have a couple of comments, wrt settings.

1)  8 bit vs 16 bit.  If like me you are interested in the actual files,
and size matters, then consider saving the file in 8bit format.  this saves
1/2 the data.
2)  filtering.  Applying a low pass filter at ~18 kHz as a post processor
to the captured waveform reduces peaking.  This matters a bit - the
software limits the peak to peak voltage to +/- 1V.  Peaking reduces the
average peak value that can be obtained.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

What is CloudT?

Link to WAV archive: www.sonore.us/m100

Jesus R

-

Yeah it's definitely a coding task.

Well if I find some time I could add a audio file export feature to CloudT.

CloudT already supports accessing http files and Google Drive, so I have
code for getting files into CloudT.

Making perfectly tuned, compact audio files is possible.

Actually, since it could generate the audio file or stream it, maybe we
wouldn't even need to store the audio files. Just play it straight from
CloudT into the Model 100, since CloudT runs on iPhones and Android phones.

But I wouldn't hold my breath.

-- John.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Hooking this setup to my AP would be a mess:) It’s odd that you are
having the exact opposite experience compared to mine. My iPhone, my
Mac, my PC, and my iPad all work. I just transferred a random program
with a standard cable and used it on my T100.

If you look at the capture directly from the unit as is it’s way to
low in amplitude so I'm not surprised a unit to unit connection will
not work. The tape drive is clearly raising the gain and this is why
you have to play with the volume on it. I could make you a file at
+31db to see if your unit can hear it.

Link to WAV archive: www.sonore.us/m100

Jesus R

-

I think you should look at the waveforms you
captured though.  They look distorted, relative to M100 output signals.
I think this is tricky enough that in order for it to be truly useful, the
details need to get ironed out.
As I said, I have tried your files with 2 android phones, an MP3/WAV
player, and a PC.  I didn't get a lot of success.  I would love to find a
magic recipe, ideally with a bog standard cable.

Interesting to note - if you cross wire two M100s and try to CSAVE on one,
and CLOAD on the other... it wont work.  Not enough signal swing.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

John, that is very cool!

Jesus R

-

Web-based M100 emulator I wrote. Runs on PCs w/ Chrome, cell phones,
tablets.
https://bitchin100.com/CloudT/

If you right click you can poke around in the code. I don't minify it so
it's easy to browse. All the stuff after the

comment I wrote.

Files are loaded in/out of the emulation using the cassette commands, but
without real audio going on. I have hooks into the virtualized ROM to let
me feed file bytes without going through a/d conversion.

-- John.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Team, the programs in the Text tab are up.

new shorter link to archive:www.sonore.us/m100

Jesus R

[M100] Paladin Measuring System

[Jesus R]

I went ahead and returned the Paladin Measuring System so it's longer
available.

Jesus R

[M100] Comments from Brian

[Jesus R]

Brian, I don't know if we have second admin in here and I just learned John
is the admin...thanks. I made a simple request and I'm sorry that offends
*you* in some way. However, the request stands because I'm trying to keep
the thread I started on topic. I really don't think I need to explain
further though because it should be common sense or courtesy. As for your
tone...I don't appreciate it.

Jesus R
.

Do we have a 2nd admin on this list now besides John?

Here's my request as a fellow mere user: "Please don't tell other people
what to do."

You don't like topic drift? I don't like self-appointed police doing a job
that doesn't need doing.

It was just a request? So is mine.

Who am I to say any of this? Who are you to tell people that the topic has
drifted too far for *you* to approve of?

Why the hell can't people just leave each other alone in here? As a default
setting, only violated under duress.

-- 
bkw

[M100] coco drive thingie was wav format...

[Jesus R]

The coco drive is not compatible with the TRS 80 Model 100 per the seller.
He also said he has not interest in developing it for the RS T80 Model 100
at this time.

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

I have started the process for converting the "Programming" software to WAY
format. I'm picking these genres at random so if there are any request
please let me know.

Also, I have been sent some software which I could add to the list.
However, I'm having a touch time since they are scattered in folders and
might not have back up docs. I'm hard pressed to convert these and organize
them. Some of the files are in MP3 format which I don't care for:) Some
have multiply recordings on one track which I'm not sure what to do with
and don't always know what's on them. I can start by figuring out a way to
list it all and maybe people can have a look and comment on them. Any
recommendations on this would be greatly appreciated.

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Please help keep this thread on topic and take spin off discussions to a
new thread.

Thank You,

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

John, agree. No worries...I'll drop another post next to move things in the
right direction.

Jesus R

-

Somehow this looks like a new thread to me so I don't know how we got here.

I'm ok with threads staying on topic or asking that others keep it on
topic. I'm also ok with threads veering off the original topic. It happens.
People tend to self correct.

Just do so politely please.

No hard and fast rule here from me other than the politeness thing.


"Be excellent to each other"

-- John.

[M100] Audacity

[Jesus R]

I just bypassed the Tandy cassette cable with jumpers for a quick test.

I found this on ebay:
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Amstrad-CPC-6128-Dragon-32-64-IBM-5150-High-Quality-Cassette-Tape-Leads-Cable-/250903444573

Jesus R

-

What do you mean by "bypass" or "bypass cable"?

There is at least one guy making and selling new standard cassette cables.
(sold as ibm 5150 cassette cables, but it's the same for Model 1, 100, and
coco)

Do you mean an audio transformer?

[M100] Audacity

[Jesus R]

crude

[M100] Audacity

[Jesus R]

This week I have been working with Stephen off line to find the "issue". At
first I didn't think there was an "issue", but Stephen rightfully stuck to
his conviction and made me curious. Two computers, two Audacity, T100,
T200, Logitech A/D, and PS Audio A/D where all systematically tested and
nothing would produce a square wave. Since the only thing left to check was
the cable I made a curd bypass and BAM square wave at last. I'm going to
make a cable today to continue with the archive operation, but is anyone
making a new cable?

Jesus R

[M100] NADSBox status

[Jesus R]

Ken, hope you get better soon!

Jesus R

[M100] Audacity

[Jesus R]

I ended up unsoldering my Tandy cassette cable to reuse the DIN connector
and then cut in half an old Radio Shack amp trigger cable. This gave me
two  (microphone and headphone) mono 1/8" jacks, but no cassette drive
control wire. I don't plan on using a cassette anyway:) It's working very
well and the signal is a nice square wave as suggested is proper with a
much better signal strength than before so I no longer reed to amplify the
recordings.

Jesus R

-

Yep, that's the guy. I have a couple of those cables from him and they work
on my Model 1's, 100/102, and cocos.

On Oct 6, 2018 8:01 AM, "Jesus R" http://lists.bitchin100.com/listinfo.cgi/m100-bitchin100.com>> wrote:

I just bypassed the Tandy cassette cable with jumpers for a quick test.

I found this on
ebay:https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Amstrad-CPC-6128-Dragon-32-64-IBM-5150-High-Quality-Cassette-Tape-Leads-Cable-/250903444573

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Team, the files in the Drives tab are up.

Jesus R

[M100] forum vs mailing list

[Jesus R]

Do you have a link to these?

There is a forum and a discord chat server at the moment.  The discord chat
is has many catergories like a forum.

[M100] forum vs mailing list

[Jesus R]

Would we be better off using a forum instead of a mailing list?

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Team, the programs in the Games, Drives, and Utilities tab are up.

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Hello, today I upload new versions of the WAV files which have been altered
with Audacity to increase their amplitude. This allows the units to cload
the files better from a computer and cell phone.

new shorter link to archive:
www.sonore.us/m100

original link to archive:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit?usp=sharing

Jesus R

[M100] loading Floppy.co onto T102

[Jesus R]

I'm having an issue loading Floppy.co onto my T102. It loads fine with the
IPL.ba file on my T100, but the IPL.ba files hangs and the screen goes
black it I try to run it on my T102. I have LaddieCon on my PC running, but
no way to talk to my T102.  Are there any alternatives to this process?

Thanks,

Jesus R

[M100] loading Floppy.co onto T102

[Jesus R]

I tried this today on a PC and still no luck. The transfer complete, but
there is a check sum error. The program loads and when you enter the
commands no files are found.

Message: 17
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 06:53:56 -0700
From: Kurt McCullum 
To: m100@lists.bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] loading Floppy.co onto T102
Message-ID:
<1536846836.3809525.1506904360.3ef88...@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Jesus,

I'm not sure if you are running Windows or Linux on your PC. If Windows,
you can try mComm. There is a way to inject TS-DOS or TEENY onto a
100/102/200/NEC machine. If you are running Linux then LaddieCon or
LaddieAlpha is your only choice. I could send you the ASCII file that is
used to create either TS-DOS or TEENY and you could transfer it over
using a telcom capture.
Kurt

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

As an update I have pretty much completed the archival process for the
games in the club100 website. Next I plan to hit drives and utility
programs.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit#gid=1942875794

It would be nice to have some people try it out and provide any feedback.

Jesus R

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

It was a bad link...I'm sure there is more room for error:)

*Steven Ranft* s_ranft at hotmail.com

*Sun Sep 16 12:37:18 PDT 2018*


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Hi Jesus,

Thanks for all the effort! Good job.

I found the link for Cribbage  CRIBGE.BA 12362 (07-02-88)  gave

The requested URL /golfgon/cribge.wav was not found on this server.

But otherwise the ones I checked were all downloadable.

I have not tried to save them to tape or play them yet

Thanks,

Steve

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

I'm far from done and its a bit of work. If you have them done
already...can you provide them so can post them?

Jesus R



Too bad I didn't see this earlier. I converted a huge chunk of these (if
not all of them) a couple of years ago.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

Agree and done.

Thanks

JR

---

Jesus,

  Correction to your Usage Instructions:

Change:  2. From BASIC on your unit type: cload"cas:filename.ba"
and press Enter.

To:  2. From BASIC on your unit type: cload"filename" and press
Enter.

  The CLOAD command only works with the CAS: (cassette) device, so
specifying it will cause a SN (syntax) error. Also the .BA extension
is not necessary, and is not normally specified. The CSAVE and CLOAD
commands only work with the "tokenized" BASIC programs (as saved in
the machine's internal file space), so the .BA extension is assumed,
and will not appear in the file name header in the .WAV file (or on
cassette).

  I have used this method myself, but prefer using the original
cassette tapes, and exercising the CCR-81a. :-)

Regards,

Peter

[M100] NADSBoxes

[Jesus R]

Awesome...count me in!

Jesus R

---

I suspect I will make an announcement sometime next weekend or during
that week after next weekend about them being for sale. There have
been quite a few people asking about availability, so I guess I will
just have to sell them first-come-first-serve AFTER I make the formal
announcement.  I will give everyone maybe a day's notice of the time I
will make the offer.  If anyone can think of a better approach, I'm
listening.  :)  And since there are very few available, please, no
sniping.  I have an inventory of those who I have sold units to
previously ;)

Ken

[M100] (no subject)

[Jesus R]

You are correctthis passes files direct from computer or phone to your
Tandy unit via their audio output.

*John R. Hogerhuis* jhoger at pobox.com

*Sun Sep 16 12:57:42 PDT 2018*


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You shouldnt have to transfer to tape.

Should be able to play from your computer or phone through headphone jack.

-- John.

[M100] program library in WAV format

[Jesus R]

You are correctthis passes files direct from computer or phone to your
Tandy unit via their audio output.

You shouldn't have to transfer to tape.

Should be able to play from your computer or phone through headphone jack.

-- John.

Re: [M100] M100 Digest, Vol 93, Issue 11

[Jesus R]

John, my T102 might have issues, but seems fine other wise:) I'll give this
try.

Thanks,

Jesus R

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>
> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:25:47 -0700
> From: "John R. Hogerhuis" 
> To: m...@bitchin100.com
> Subject: Re: [M100] loading Floppy.co onto T102
> Message-ID:
>  gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> There is no difference between a 100 and 102 in this regard.
>
> Not sure what could be happening.
>
> Why FLOPPY? Ideally, ROM version of TS-DOS if you can get a OptROM or REX,
>
> Followed by RAM version of TS-DOS, or TEENY
>
> Often TEENY is best for RAM only set ups because it is uses so little RAM.
>
> -- John.
>