Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-09 Thread John Gardner
t;> > >> > >> > >> > On 9 Oct 2017 6:31 a.m., "ray gordon" <ray...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I hav'nt been monitoring the list for a couple weeks, but I'm >> >> certain

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-09 Thread Brian Brindle
> > On 9 Oct 2017 6:31 a.m., "ray gordon" <ray...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I hav'nt been monitoring the list for a couple weeks, but I'm certainly > >> interested in several rexes > >> > >> > >> >

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-09 Thread James Zeun
lists.bitchin100.com> on behalf of Jim > Anderson <jim.ander...@kpu.ca> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 5, 2017 7:01 PM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest > > > -Original Message- > > > > You don't need any

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-08 Thread ray gordon
.@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest > -Original Message- > > You don't need any tpdd device, you just need any modern pc and a usb > serial cable and some free software. Sorry, by 'TPDD device' I meant TPDD emulators as well, not just

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > > You don't need any tpdd device, you just need any modern pc and a usb > serial cable and some free software. Sorry, by 'TPDD device' I meant TPDD emulators as well, not just the actual Tandy drives or NADSBox or whatnot. I guess I should have said 'some kind of

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Brian White
You don't need any tpdd device, you just need any modern pc and a usb serial cable and some free software. If you are even in the market a rex at all in the first place, then automatically a usb serial adapter and a serial cable is hardly a special unreasonable extra burden. It's like complaining

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > > One idea is, put a few units up on Ebay. I may be listing one or two units on ebay after I'm done. I ordered parts to build six, and I've got four functional machines, so depending on whether I mess up or have any DOA parts I may have a couple left over. I

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > > Apparently, the only difference btwn the 100/102 REX and the 200 REX > is the software load. The parts are apparently the same. > [...] > However, for reasons of communication and sanity, I'm only dealing > with the 100/102 REX right now. I don't want any

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Josh Malone
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > I, for one, would be interested to see the economics of ordering a batch. > > I personally don't think you can do it. I have sourced parts carefully to > keep costs low, in order to enable a bit of profit for club 100

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Stephen Adolph
I, for one, would be interested to see the economics of ordering a batch. I personally don't think you can do it. I have sourced parts carefully to keep costs low, in order to enable a bit of profit for club 100 and myself, but in no way did it compensate for the time. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Marko Peussa
I could also pay up front, Kickstarter-like or something... Cheers! "John R. Hogerhuis" kirjoitti 5.10.2017 kello 21.26: > One idea is, put a few units up on Ebay. > > Then you can determine the actual market price. > > I wouldn't invest in a lot of inventory without

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
One idea is, put a few units up on Ebay. Then you can determine the actual market price. I wouldn't invest in a lot of inventory without figuring that out and maybe not invest in a lot of inventory in any event. -- John.

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Josh Malone
Apparently, the only difference btwn the 100/102 REX and the 200 REX is the software load. The parts are apparently the same. The NEC boards are an entirely different beast and apparently much harder to DIY. However, for reasons of communication and sanity, I'm only dealing with the 100/102 REX

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Kenneth Pettit
Hey Josh, Ahh, I understand this statement perfectly. This is why I have not jumped in to say I could do this. In my opinion, the only viable solution is to have these made professionally in quantity in China or Vietnam and then pass the added cost along to the buyer. Ken Sent from my

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Gary Weber
Josh, I really like the idea of the poll you're doing, and I'd love to see REX back in stock for folks that want them. I see no reason, however, not to also gauge the potential interest of the Tandy 200 and NEC models. I realize those boards are not available on OSHPark (yet), but the potential

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Brian White
Josh, you have a socket that I previously sent someone else right? You don't still need one? (or if you just want a spare I can send you a couple) On Oct 5, 2017 10:58 AM, "Josh Malone" wrote: > I'm working very hard currently to simplify the workflow to the point > where

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Josh Malone
I'm working very hard currently to simplify the workflow to the point where I would have a prayer of fulfilling a large fraction of the 63 interests expressed so far without burning out and selling my Tandy in disgust :) So, I'm only contemplating a single thing: 1, 2, or 3 REX boards per

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Nugent
Thanks, Josh, I had missed that before. I’ve filled it out. — Nuge — On Oct 4, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > I'll send the form URL one more time in case it's gotten buried in > peoples' email > > https://goo.gl/forms/Kr4YgaskVhMCuzxz1 > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2017

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Brian White
Oh and in addition to all that, I just remembered we probably don't have an image of what goes on the flash chip. You might have to program a completed rex the normal way, desolder it's flash chip, and use the programmer to dump it. Then that would be your image to write new flash chips. So, no.

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-05 Thread Brian White
You can get programming adapter sockets for both chips for about $9 each. http://www.ebay.com/itm/271973284613 http://www.ebay.com/itm/152444697107 And for the cpld, it would be easy to wire up the programmer and a 5v supply via breadboard. That leaves the flash. Instead of the bare tsop

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-04 Thread Josh Malone
Programmed kits are not an option, since you have to assemble the board to program it :) A standalone flash and cpld programmer would be prohibitively expensive for such a small run. This would be for assembled, programmed, and tested units only. On Oct 4, 2017 6:28 PM, "Lee Olivares"

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-04 Thread Lee Olivares
Personally interested in a kit of parts and a flashed ROM if such an option were to present itself. I hit the form for a pair of units, since that's what I'd originally wanted from the M100 store ages ago. On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Daryl Tester < dt-m...@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote:

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-04 Thread Daryl Tester
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 13:18:56 -0400, Josh Malone wrote: I'll send the form URL one more time in case it's gotten buried in peoples' email https://goo.gl/forms/Kr4YgaskVhMCuzxz1 +1'd. (and thanks for that Josh, it saved me having to find it). -- Regards, Daryl Tester Handcrafted

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-04 Thread Josh Malone
I'll send the form URL one more time in case it's gotten buried in peoples' email https://goo.gl/forms/Kr4YgaskVhMCuzxz1 On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > Mike: If you can respond to the survey, that's appreciated > > All: I've just ordered a set of

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-04 Thread Josh Malone
Mike: If you can respond to the survey, that's appreciated All: I've just ordered a set of the castellated boards on rush order so I can test them. Once I validate the revised board I'll have some idea of how long a board will take to assemble, which will factor into my decision to actually make

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-04 Thread Mike Nugent
Josh, I’m currently in no position to make my own, so in view of a $60 ballpark figure per completed unit, I’d like to order 3 of them. Thanks! On Oct 3, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > So far the responses to my inquiry are up to 49 units. Clearly the > world

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
You should be able to edit your responses to the form. I can't actually edit user responses myself. Sorry. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Gary Hammond wrote: > At $60 for a rex, I would like to add 1 more to the list to take my request > to 3. > > >

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
pulls maybe? Price is too good to be true. 8Mbit is kinda small to counterfeit, seems to me. Could be actual new stock if someone dumped their inventory cheap. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: >

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Adolph
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-IC-AM29F800BB-70EC-AM29F800BB-70EI-TSOP48-AMD-NEW-GOOD-QUALITY-/351587670024?epid=1648855918=item51dc421808:g:yN8AAOSwU9xUMJ1x pretty cheap flash. If genuine, this is a good price, free shipping... On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Gary Hammond

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Gary Hammond
At $60 for a rex, I would like to add 1 more to the list to take my request to 3.

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
Oh - forgot to mention that I do intend to purchase and test the castellated board from OSHPark before doing a big run. -Josh On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Josh Malone wrote: > Absolutely! I was speaking entirely in the theoretical - I am not > equipped to verify any

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
Absolutely! I was speaking entirely in the theoretical - I am not equipped to verify any design changes beyond building it an popping it in my 102 and seeing if the magic smoke comes out or not. :) My only goal right now is to help the community meet the current demand for the current REX unit --

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Adolph
Regarding changing the design. I would not do so unless you plan to verify the design. Right now we have a fair amount of history with the current design. There are >1 hundred rex out there. I have 20 model T I test with and still make plenty of mistakes. Introducing hardware variants sounds

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Adolph
Regarding flash. I will return the favor that John H gave me. I Have several hundred rex flash chips on hand and will make a quantity available for someone to build with. Contact me directly to discuss Steve On Monday, October 2, 2017, Jerry Stoner wrote: >

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Jerry Stoner
XCR3064XL-10VQG44I is listed as the replacement for XCR3064XL-10PCG44I. Jerry On 2 October 2017 at 12:42, Stephen Adolph wrote: > What i have done in the past is buy trays of of eBay. > > > On Monday, October 2, 2017, Ken Pettit wrote: > >> Yes, that

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Adolph
What i have done in the past is buy trays of of eBay. On Monday, October 2, 2017, Ken Pettit wrote: > Yes, that is an error. I have noticed that before also, but this part is > in fact EOL. > > https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/customer_notices/xcn07022.pdf > >

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Ken Pettit
Yes, that is an error. I have noticed that before also, but this part is in fact EOL. https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/customer_notices/xcn07022.pdf Ken On 10/2/17 10:04 AM, Josh Malone wrote: On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Ken Pettit wrote: Actually,

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Ken Pettit wrote: > > > Actually, the CPLD is also obsolete and no longer in production. There are no > current in-production CPLD or FPGA devices that are 5V tolerant. There is > still a market for 5V tolerant CPLDs/FPGAs in the hobiest

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Ken Pettit
On 10/2/17 9:27 AM, Josh Malone wrote: I'd like to have a discussion (possibly offline?) with people about what a support model for the REX looks like going forward. In addition to software and/or improvements, the NOR chip is obsolete (though still in decent stock) - so eventually it will

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > T200 = different software load. not sure if I released that or not. > Ah, okay. I have only a 102, so I can't test a 200 REX, though I could theoretically build them. What's missing from this entire discussion is

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Adolph
T200 = different software load. not sure if I released that or not. What's missing from this entire discussion is software maintenance and bug fix. That is 95% of the job going forward. Building is a straight forward and bounded time commitment. Software maintenance, bug fix, is a much deeper

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread David Boyd
Yes, according to the REX page at bitchin100, which was written by the designer, Steve Adolph. I’ll just go try it... Yes. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 11:06 Josh Malone wrote: > On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:10 AM, David Boyd wrote: > >> A note: The basic

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:10 AM, David Boyd wrote: > A note: The basic REX model is also fine for the 200, not just the 100/102 > What do you mean by this? Is the REX referenced here: http://tandy.wiki/Building_a_REX also suitable for the model 200? -Josh

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-02 Thread Josh Malone
Somehow my gmail missed this post. ?? Anyway, I didn't post a price point because a) I hadn't computed it, and b) I think it would depend on a couple factors, incl. batch size and being able to find an alternate flash chip sourceable from a cheaper supplier. In any case, responses to the form so

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-10-01 Thread David Boyd
A note: The basic REX model is also fine for the 200, not just the 100/102 On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 21:26 Josh Malone wrote: > Folks, > > There's been lots of interest lately in obtaining REX units. Several > members have now built REXes but we realize that not everybody

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-09-30 Thread Lee Kelley
*To:* Model 100 Discussion <m100@lists.bitchin100.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:26 PM >> *Subject:* [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest >> >> Folks, >> >> There's been lots of interest lately in obtaining REX units. Several >

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-09-30 Thread David Szasz
a problem? > > - Original Message - > *From:* Josh Malone <josh.mal...@gmail.com> > *To:* Model 100 Discussion <m100@lists.bitchin100.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:26 PM > *Subject:* [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest > > Folks, > > Th

Re: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest

2017-09-30 Thread Mike Stein
I think a rough price point would be useful; why is that a problem? - Original Message - From: Josh Malone To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 9:26 PM Subject: [M100] Who wants a REX? Gauging interest Folks, There's been lots of interest lately