[M100] dlplus naming

> On Feb 24, 2023, at 7:55 AM, Brian K. White wrote: > dl2 makes the most sense if I didn't care about the "dl" part. It says what > it is and what to expect correctly and succinctly. You are not obligated to take end user expectation into the equation here, however the end user is mostly just

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

Thank you Josh, WooHoo! First had to move my ol’ LapLink cable from the HP to the MBP as my other 9-to-9 pin cable I was using was not, after all, null-modem; even with all my adapters attaching it to the M100 and USB-to-RS232. Restarted TS-DOS on the M100 and checked FILES. Had created a file

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

Thanks indeed. On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 1:30 PM Joshua O'Keefe wrote: > On Oct 16, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > > Feel free to re-package it. > > Thanks, Kurt! I have posted the repackaged version with a simple install > script (and a minor path edit to the launcher script) to >

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

On Oct 16, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > Feel free to re-package it. Thanks, Kurt! I have posted the repackaged version with a simple install script (and a minor path edit to the launcher script) to http://public.nachomountain.com/files/m100/

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

Hi Josh, For heaven’s sakes! Yes, had the folder open to see, but expected something as would be a folder by the name of the .deb. I did a least know it was Debian. Yes, there are three files actually. “debian-binary" as well. Rest it is. Too tired to remember even AT SVR32. Thanks again,

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

Josh, Feel free to re-package it. My only warning is that the supporting CO files (DOS100/DOS200/DOSNEC/SAR100/SAR200) and the dictionary (mcomm.dic) need to be in the same directory as the python code. This allows UR-II and SARDINE to load those files regardless of what directory you are

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

On Oct 16, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Greg Swallow wrote: > "ar x mComm_1.2_all,deb" ends up at another command prompt. From what I can > tell does not “open” the .deb file Hi Greg, A .deb file is an archive (similar in concept to a ZIP file) that contains a couple of tar files. Running the "ar"

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

> Hey Josh, Trying out the instructions you posted, but unable to get past the ar command line. "ar x mComm_1.2_all,deb" ends up at another command prompt. From what I can tell does not “open” the .deb file. Tried ar -x with the same results. Wondered if all was a11, but saw that it is indeed

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

Thank you all for the your wisdom and information. I am finding the Mid-2012 MBP is indeed a great buy. I did upgrade it when received it with 16gb of RAM and a 1TB SSD. Not difficult at all. Catalina was already installed on the HDD so I had cloned the HDD to the SSD as an external first. Was

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

On Oct 14, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Joshua O'Keefe wrote: > I'll try mComm after dinner. I unpacked the .deb back when it was released > and have it lying around somewhere. Apologies for replying to myself, but I have successfully run Python mComm on macOS Catalina 10.15. It took a bit of doing:

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

I just built dlplus from bkw's master branch and while it did emit some compiler warnings, it built and runs out of the box perfectly on macOS Catalina 10.15. I'll try mComm after dinner. I unpacked the .deb back when it was released and have it lying around somewhere.

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

All 3 of LaddieAlpha, the python version of mComm, and dlplus probably work. I have used Laddie and dlplus on macos myself, so those 2 I can say for sure. I built dlplus on macos a year or two ago and it worked normally. I use macports for the gcc/gnu environment. I don't like brew but it

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

LaddieAlpha and DLPlus are the options. I've never found installing Mono on OSX to be a big deal but I haven't done it for a while. The advantage of LaddieAlpha is it's already built and you don't need to set up a compiler. Guess I should try compiling and running it on .net core. That's cross

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

Greg, There is no native version of mComm for macOS. There is a Python version that works under Linux but I have no idea if that would actually work under maxOS. I think LaddieAlpha is your best bet. Kurt On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Greg Swallow wrote: > All, > > Most of my old,

Re: [M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

On Oct 14, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Greg Swallow wrote: > .Was able to pickup aMid-2012 MacBook Pro i7 for a song and am wondering if > anyone has had luck with DLPlus or mComm on macOS? Greg, The mid-2012s are great machines -- my daily driver is the 12" of that vintage with memory and disk

[M100] DLPlus or mComm for macOS 10.15.x

All, Most of my old, Core2Quad and earlier, computers are starting to have issues with the latest openSuse and I am looking to going all macOS. Or, close to all. My brother-in-law handed his old MacBook Pro CoreDuo done to me and I have found use for it as it runs software I have for my

Re: [M100] dlplus

Good to know... yeah, if I knew that, I'd forgotten about it. In LaddieAlpha I do a bunch of transformations on the filenames to make them TS-DOS / Model T friendly and not cause crashes. I build fixes for problems like this into the code (then promptly forget about them). I'll check and see if

[M100] dlplus

I finally have dplus working on Linux Mint to my M100, and I thought I should let everyone know how I did it. I finally figured out that if the file was in lowercase on the "drive" (PC) then it would not transfer properly. This was hard to catch because in TS-DOS it showed up in all caps like

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

The same reason almost all code in linux or the entire open source world says that or something like it somewhere. It just means no one is making any promises that you can sue over. Every single line of free volunteer code always comes under a warranty that reads "This will definitely kill your

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

0403 is an Ftdi vid. So whatever problem is occurring is likely to be hardware / cabling issues no linux driver. — John.

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

0403 and 6001 are the vid and pid, respectively, according to my very old friend lsusb. On 23 December 2017 at 00:26, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > Well that confirms that ftdi_sio, the normal Linux driver is being used for > usbserial. > > lsusb would given some details about

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Well that confirms that ftdi_sio, the normal Linux driver is being used for usbserial. lsusb would given some details about vid and pid and manufacturer. -- John.

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

FYI, you need a space after grep. I just ran that ok, here: (standard input):usblp 22891 0 (standard input):usb_storage62209 0 (standard input):btusb 32412 0 (standard input):bluetooth 395423 23 bnep,ath3k,btusb,rfcomm (standard

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 11:26 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > Then why does dmesg say that the driver is only for testing and one > off purposes? > Would you run lsmod | grep-iH usb And lsusb — John.

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Then why does dmesg say that the driver is only for testing and one off purposes? On 22 December 2017 at 16:17, Brian White wrote: > These drivers are decades old and standard heavily used and tested and > common to all distributions. If a /dev/ttyUSB* exists at all, then

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

These drivers are decades old and standard heavily used and tested and common to all distributions. If a /dev/ttyUSB* exists at all, then udev did everything and you're done thinking about drivers. If you have more than one usb adapter from different manufacturers, and they're both unreliable,

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:44 AM Peter Vollan wrote: > So far, "dmesg" has always said that I am using the generic driver, > "only for testing and one off purposes". And I have already gone into > Synaptic and downloaded everything that looked promising. > Kernel drivers

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

So far, "dmesg" has always said that I am using the generic driver, "only for testing and one off purposes". And I have already gone into Synaptic and downloaded everything that looked promising. On 21 December 2017 at 13:07, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 21,

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Peter Vollan wrote: > TS-DOS. I have a REXX installed. > Now I am just getting "drive not ready", I have tried LaddieAlpha as well > as dl. > When I declared victory, I had just sent a small text file from the > m100 to the linux laptop. So

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

TS-DOS. I have a REXX installed. Now I am just getting "drive not ready", I have tried LaddieAlpha as well as dl. When I declared victory, I had just sent a small text file from the m100 to the linux laptop. So it did work, briefly. On 21 December 2017 at 12:53, John R. Hogerhuis

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Peter Vollan wrote: > This last cable that I bought from Amazon, I went through the Tandy > wiki page first. I just decided to get the one will the null modem > built in. Can you list a series of steps that reliably demonstrate a problem?

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Brian White > [bw.al...@gmail.com] > Skickat: den 21 december 2017 12:05 > Till: m...@bitchin100.com > Ämne: Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint > > That's reasonable. I only say those are known vs unknown. I ohmed them all > out and mapped the actual connections by hand, not mer

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

-pin to 9-pin serial instead of USB? >> >> Joan in Reno >> >> >> From: Peter Vollan <dprogra...@gmail.com> >> To: m...@bitchin100.com >> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:52 PM >> Subject: [M100] dlplus on linux mint >> >> On

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

.@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Just curious, but why not use 25-pin to 9-pin serial instead of USB? > > Joan in Reno > > > From: Peter Vollan <dprogra...@gmail.com> > To: m...@bitchin100.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:52 PM > S

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

> From: Peter Vollan <dprogra...@gmail.com> > To: m...@bitchin100.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:52 PM > Subject: [M100] dlplus on linux mint > > On a positive note, thank you to everyone whose advice helped me to > finally get Virtual T working on my Linux Min

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Brian White [bw.al...@gmail.com] Skickat: den 21 december 2017 12:05 Till: m...@bitchin100.com Ämne: Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint That's reasonable. I only say those are known vs unknown. I ohmed them all out and mapped the actual connections by hand, not merely used them. For various reasons

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Just curious, but why not use 25-pin to 9-pin serial instead of USB? Joan in Reno From: Peter Vollan <dprogra...@gmail.com> To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 7:52 PM Subject: [M100] dlplus on linux mint On a positive note, thank you to everyone whose

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

That's reasonable. I only say those are known vs unknown. I ohmed them all out and mapped the actual connections by hand, not merely used them. For various reasons in each case, I don't think you have to worry about your usb-serial adapter, OS, or the dlplus software. That leaves the hardware of

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

The problem is, I do not know why my three other cables did not work, so I am skeptical of just spending money for another one. On 20 December 2017 at 21:49, Brian White wrote: > Get one of these cables (one of the 3 "ideal" ones, ie, get the cables2go > one. You almost

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Get one of these cables (one of the 3 "ideal" ones, ie, get the cables2go one. You almost certainly do not need any different usb-serial adapter, but if you want then get the ftdi one linked there too. I actually use an old and underpowered atom cpu netbook, so, speed/power of the linux host is

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

What’s going wrong?

[M100] dlplus on linux mint

On a positive note, thank you to everyone whose advice helped me to finally get Virtual T working on my Linux Mint laptop. I think I may have said that I had Desklink working, and was communicating with my Model 100. Well, I spoke too soon. The best way I can explain it is that it seemed to be

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

...@mykopat.slu.se Från: M100 [m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] för John R. Hogerhuis [jho...@pobox.com] Skickat: den 29 november 2017 06:39 Till: m...@bitchin100.com Ämne: Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:34 PM Peter Vollan <dprogra...@gmail.

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Well, the "generic, experimental" driver just did not work. The other serial to usb driver did. On 28 November 2017 at 21:39, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:34 PM Peter Vollan wrote: >> >> Success at last!!! >> >> You guys were

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:34 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > Success at last!!! > > You guys were right about the permssions issue. Not only that... I > change permissions on /dev/ttyUSB0 and it changes back for some > reason? Well anyway "sudo" avoids that problem. > Usb devices

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Success at last!!! You guys were right about the permssions issue. Not only that... I change permissions on /dev/ttyUSB0 and it changes back for some reason? Well anyway "sudo" avoids that problem. I am afraid that, on top of that, the Radio Shack serial to USB cable did not work. I suspected as

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

sudo cp ./dl /usr/local/bin sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/dl bkw@miata:~$ ls /dev/ttyUSB* /dev/ttyUSB0 bkw@miata:~$ cd ~/Documents/TRS-80/Model_200/files bkw@miata:~/Documents/TRS-80/Model_200/files$ ls DCPREP.DO RUN-CO.DO SERIAL.DO START.DO bkw@miata:~/Documents/TRS-80/Model_200/files$

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

1 On 27 November 2017 at 19:57, Daryl Tester wrote: > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 19:53:47 -0800, Peter Vollan wrote: > >> ./dl /dev/ttyUSB0 puts me right back at the command prompt. And I can >> see ttyUSB0 in the /dev directory. Did I miscompile desklink? > > >

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Maybe try it with sudo to see if it’s a permissions problem. Also type dmesg to see if there are any kernel errors after it exits. Another possibility would be compile for debug and run it under gdb to see if it hits an exception. Or step through to see where it fails. — John. On Mon, Nov 27,

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 19:53:47 -0800, Peter Vollan wrote: ./dl /dev/ttyUSB0 puts me right back at the command prompt. And I can see ttyUSB0 in the /dev directory. Did I miscompile desklink? What does running "echo $?" immediately after the command return? -- Regards, Daryl Tester

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

./dl /dev/ttyUSB0 puts me right back at the command prompt. And I can see ttyUSB0 in the /dev directory. Did I miscompile desklink? On 27 November 2017 at 15:37, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > When you plug in your usb serial device you can type > > dmesg > > And it will print out

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

When you plug in your usb serial device you can type dmesg And it will print out recent kernel messages. You can usually tell what /dev/ttyUSBx device just got added from the scrawl. — John. On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:34 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > I am not certain which

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

I am not certain which USB port I am on. But on the other hand, desklink gives the say result whatever port I enter, or if I enter none at all. On 27 November 2017 at 15:17, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > Shouldn’t do that. It should run and stay running unless you hit ctrl-c > >

Re: [M100] dlplus on linux mint

Shouldn’t do that. It should run and stay running unless you hit ctrl-c Guessing there’s a hardware problem with the port, or a software / permissions issue. You could also try LaddieAlpha. — John. On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:14 PM Peter Vollan wrote: > When I run "./dl"

[M100] dlplus on linux mint

When I run "./dl" followed by the usb port of my usb adaptor, I just get the command line again. Shouldn't dlplus do something else, like it does in DOS? Dlplus seemed to compile fine in the first place. I realise that another possible wrinkle is that my cable(s) is not working. I am using a