Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-03 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
The format is documented. Headers, checksums etc. I think, in the service
manual. If anyone needs the info and cannot find it let me know.

- John.

On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 9:46 AM you got me  seems like it would be an easy thing to take a .ba file, read in it's
> binary form and then 'build' a corresponding audio file. The audio file
> could be built by taking PERFECT samples of a '0' and '1' and then spliced
> together to make a whole program on audio. The problem I believe is that a
> genuine audio file produced by an m100 contains more than just the program.
> I think it also contains a '" lead, checksum and descriptor/file name.
> One of the m100 books had a description of the audio format.
>
> --
> *From:* M100  on behalf of John R.
> Hogerhuis 
> *Sent:* Friday, November 2, 2018 9:36 PM
> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software
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> OK. CloudT doesn't either.
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> CloudT does something but doesn't implement cassette really, instead it
> hooks the cassette routines and redirects CSAVE and CLOAD operation to the
> file system, or google drive.
>
> Surprised no one has scratched the itch to just implement a pc utility to
> encode and decode model t wav files.
>
> -- John.
>


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-03 Thread you got me
seems like it would be an easy thing to take a .ba file, read in it's binary 
form and then 'build' a corresponding audio file. The audio file could be built 
by taking PERFECT samples of a '0' and '1' and then spliced together to make a 
whole program on audio. The problem I believe is that a genuine audio file 
produced by an m100 contains more than just the program. I think it also 
contains a '" lead, checksum and descriptor/file name. One of the m100 
books had a description of the audio format.


From: M100  on behalf of John R. Hogerhuis 

Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:36 PM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

OK. CloudT doesn't either.

CloudT does something but doesn't implement cassette really, instead it hooks 
the cassette routines and redirects CSAVE and CLOAD operation to the file 
system, or google drive.

Surprised no one has scratched the itch to just implement a pc utility to 
encode and decode model t wav files.

-- John.


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
OK. CloudT doesn't either.

CloudT does something but doesn't implement cassette really, instead it
hooks the cassette routines and redirects CSAVE and CLOAD operation to the
file system, or google drive.

Surprised no one has scratched the itch to just implement a pc utility to
encode and decode model t wav files.

-- John.


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread Ken Pettit
It does not.  Has been on the wish list for about 9 years, but was never 
a strong enough wish by anyone until now.  :)


Ken

On 11/2/18 2:27 PM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote:

I don't remember if VT emulates the cassette.

Ken?

-- John.




Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
I don't remember if VT emulates the cassette.

Ken?

-- John.


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread Brian White
That would seem to be VirtaulT itself. Just csave the file. I have never
used VirtualT or any other M100 emulator, so I am only *assuming* that they
have audio output from the emulated cassette port, or that the emulated
cassette port saves a sound file. Either way, there you go just csave the
file from the emulator, or play the sound file the emulator saved.



On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:30 PM Joel BARBE  wrote:

> Thanks for this link.
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> Very interesting list of program in wav format.
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> Well, seems no easy way to convert a BA file stored on PC in wav format.
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> Maybe I was not 100% clear on my first mail.
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> I have ba files created with virtualT , and I want to send it to the Tandy
> 200. So thinking to convert it in wav and use the Data cassette cable.
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> Note I’m using it often to other computer like Oric, Sharp PC …
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> *De :* M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] *De la part de*
> Kevin Becker
> *Envoyé :* vendredi 2 novembre 2018 14:57
> *À :* m...@bitchin100.com
> *Objet :* Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software
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> Jesus has been working on converting programs to WAV.
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> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit#gid=1942875794
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> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:37 AM Joel Barbé  wrote:
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> Hello,
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> I done some unsucceful search on internet about a ba to wav software.
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> Do you know if it's possible To convert ba file (from virtualt for
> example) To a wav file?
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> I have several cassette cables for the m100 or 200. But no serial cable.
>
> I know serial transferts is better.  I havn't the hardware To do that
> right now.
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> Thanks for reading.
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-- 
bkw


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread Greg Swallow
Another way, given your desktop has a modem and you have a modem cable for the 
M200, would be connect the two computers via modem. Set the M200 to Answer 
(ANS) and send an ATA on both ends from terminal programs. You might have to 
set the terminals programs at full-duplex. You could then transfer the files 
directly and SAVE or CSAVE. May not need the ATA at the M200. I don't remember 
if the internal used the Hayes command set.

God Bless,

GregS <><

- Original Message -
From: "John R. Hogerhuis" 
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 12:21:54 PM
Subject: Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

"I have ba files created with virtualT , and I want to send it to the Tandy
200."

Hmm. Without a serial cable! That's a poser.

Best thing to do though is to get a usb serial cable and a null modem.
That's how everyone else does it :-)

Other way to do this would be to upload the file to a BBS (using Telnet)
that supports 300 baud and then dial your T200 into it to download. I
haven't used any BBS's in a long time though, so maybe someone else can
advise you of any compatible with the T200.

Another way is to simply print your program out and type it back into your
T200. Then CSAVE it, and you have a cassette copy.

If you have a bar code reader and software I guess you could create a set
of barcodes for your program and scan them in.

-- John.


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
"I have ba files created with virtualT , and I want to send it to the Tandy
200."

Hmm. Without a serial cable! That's a poser.

Best thing to do though is to get a usb serial cable and a null modem.
That's how everyone else does it :-)

Other way to do this would be to upload the file to a BBS (using Telnet)
that supports 300 baud and then dial your T200 into it to download. I
haven't used any BBS's in a long time though, so maybe someone else can
advise you of any compatible with the T200.

Another way is to simply print your program out and type it back into your
T200. Then CSAVE it, and you have a cassette copy.

If you have a bar code reader and software I guess you could create a set
of barcodes for your program and scan them in.

-- John.


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread Ron Lauzon
Someone did this for the Pocket Computer-2.
http://pocket.free.fr/html/soft/pocket-tools_e.html

I've used these tools with my PC-2 and they work.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:31 PM Joel BARBE  wrote:
>
> Thanks for this link.
>
> Very interesting list of program in wav format.
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, seems no easy way to convert a BA file stored on PC in wav format.
>
>
>
> Maybe I was not 100% clear on my first mail.
>
>
>
> I have ba files created with virtualT , and I want to send it to the Tandy 
> 200. So thinking to convert it in wav and use the Data cassette cable.
>
>
>
> Note I’m using it often to other computer like Oric, Sharp PC …
>
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>
>
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>
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> De : M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] De la part de Kevin 
> Becker
> Envoyé : vendredi 2 novembre 2018 14:57
> À : m...@bitchin100.com
> Objet : Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software
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> Jesus has been working on converting programs to WAV.
>
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> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit#gid=1942875794
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> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:37 AM Joel Barbé  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I done some unsucceful search on internet about a ba to wav software.
>
>
>
> Do you know if it's possible To convert ba file (from virtualt for example) 
> To a wav file?
>
>
>
> I have several cassette cables for the m100 or 200. But no serial cable.
>
> I know serial transferts is better.  I havn't the hardware To do that right 
> now.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
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-- 
Ron Lauzon - rlauzon at acm dot org
   Homepage: http://webpages.charter.net/rlauzon/
   Weblog: http://ronsapartment.blogspot.com/

TRS-80 Pocket Computer 2 - TRS-80 Pocket Computer 4 - TRS-80 Model 100/102
Some people like to work on old cars.  But old computers are cheaper
and don't require a big garage.


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread Joel BARBE
Thanks for this link.

Very interesting list of program in wav format.

 

 

Well, seems no easy way to convert a BA file stored on PC in wav format.

 

Maybe I was not 100% clear on my first mail.

 

I have ba files created with virtualT , and I want to send it to the Tandy 200. 
So thinking to convert it in wav and use the Data cassette cable. 

 

Note I’m using it often to other computer like Oric, Sharp PC …

 

 

 

 

De : M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] De la part de Kevin Becker
Envoyé : vendredi 2 novembre 2018 14:57
À : m...@bitchin100.com
Objet : Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

 

Jesus has been working on converting programs to WAV.

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit#gid=1942875794

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:37 AM Joel Barbé mailto:quara...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello,

 

I done some unsucceful search on internet about a ba to wav software.

 

Do you know if it's possible To convert ba file (from virtualt for example) To 
a wav file?

 

I have several cassette cables for the m100 or 200. But no serial cable. 

I know serial transferts is better.  I havn't the hardware To do that right now.

 

 

Thanks for reading. 

 

 

 

 



Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread Kevin Becker
Jesus has been working on converting programs to WAV.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m7QRN1I5KpJJO_RKYnwFhmrluDjbYm6bEe_rIgz80ug/edit#gid=1942875794



On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:37 AM Joel Barbé  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I done some unsucceful search on internet about a ba to wav software.
>
> Do you know if it's possible To convert ba file (from virtualt for
> example) To a wav file?
>
> I have several cassette cables for the m100 or 200. But no serial cable.
> I know serial transferts is better.  I havn't the hardware To do that
> right now.
>
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [M100] ba 2 wav software

2018-11-02 Thread BiggRanger
Of some interest might be the utilities WAV2CAS and CAS2WAV, they are 
available here:

http://knut.one/wav2cas.htm

Here is a nice write up of it in use with a Model 200:
http://munk.org/typecast/2014/07/25/file-transfer-for-trs-80-model-100102200-using-a-digital-audio-recorder-the-road-less-travelled/ 



and video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exdiQdjioyQ

Darren Clark


On 11/2/2018 3:37 AM, Joel Barbé wrote:

Hello,

I done some unsucceful search on internet about a ba to wav software.

Do you know if it's possible To convert ba file (from virtualt for 
example) To a wav file?


I have several cassette cables for the m100 or 200. But no serial cable.
I know serial transferts is better.  I havn't the hardware To do that 
right now.



Thanks for reading.