Can I just comment now that this problem hasn't gone away under Mountain Lion.
Have filed a bug (two actually) on this issue.
Dónal
On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote:
Hi Esther
Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right.
Gordon
Hi Dónal,
You have my permission to use any of my text, and you can also link to the
discussions here using the Mail Archive site. This post doesn't cover the
other issue about not being able to interact with and check/uncheck items in
the tables on the Java Preferences tabs. As Paula also
Couldn't agree with you more Esther. As someone who's in the field of higher
ed (from the other side I'll grant you) I recognise fully the importance. Mind
you, why any institution would inflict blackboard on its staff/student cohort
is beyond me. It was, is now and forever shall be…. …
Esther I forgot to ask, do you have the bug number for the one you submitted
last year?
On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:44, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
Hi Dónal,
You have my permission to use any of my text, and you can also link to the
discussions here using the Mail Archive site. This post
Hi Dónal,
No, sorry, this is from memory. It might have been a little over a year ago
that I reported the problems with Java Preferences. And not all universities
use Blackboard, but some of the alternatives also have accessibility issues.
Esther
On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Dónal
yes you're right there. We use moodle which isn't quite as bad as blackboard
but stil has issues.
Not to worry about the bug ID. I was just going to put it in one of the notes.
Thanks Esther.
Dónal
On 24 Jul 2012, at 21:56, mori...@mac.com wrote:
Hi Dónal,
No, sorry, this is from
Hi Esther
Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right.
Gordon
On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:
This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't
see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't
Gordon/ Esther:
I'm in the process of filing a bug, however I'd like permission to use some of
Esther's superb text. I won't comment here on anything relating to mountain
lion; just to say that all that glisters is not gold.
Dónal
On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net
Hi Paula,
There's another way to navigate to the tabs in Java Preferences without having
to use the TrackPad in a hit or miss fashion, but I thought you might only need
to get to the Network pane, so the trackpad instructions would have been
easier to use. I should have guessed that you would
Hi Paula
have you tried using the Item Chooser? That sometimes helps to make your life
easier.
Gordon
On 22 Jul 2012, at 23:22, Paula Hobley paula.hob...@bigpond.com wrote:
Thanks Lyn
Yes, I did do this. I'm still having trouble finding things when I use the
track pad though, it's a bit
Hi Gordon,
This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver doesn't
see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't show up
in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other normal ways to
navigate to them and select them. I've posted
-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith
Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 3:54 AM
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Hi Paula
have you tried using the Item Chooser? That sometimes helps to make your
life easier.
Gordon
On 22 Jul 2012, at 23:22
Of Gordon Smith
Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 3:54 AM
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Hi Paula
have you tried using the Item Chooser? That sometimes helps to make your
life easier.
Gordon
On 22 Jul 2012, at 23:22
Of Esther
Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012 3:13 PM
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Hi Paula,
Hang on there. I now remember that there are some accessibility issues in
navigating Java Preferences. I reported this to Apple the last time
in to the finder window.
Thanks anyway *smile*
Take care
Paula
-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012 2:30 PM
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java
Hi Lynne,
There's a genuine accessibility issue with the Java Preferences app, in that
you can't navigate to the other tabs with VoiceOver when one is selected. So
routing the mouse cursor doesn't work before clicking with VO-Shift-Space,
because you can't get to another tab. And I remember
-access.net] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
Annabel Smith
Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012 12:02 AM
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Paula
The step I think you missed is to route the mouse pointer,
(VoiceOver+Command+F5). Do this just before you do
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Paula
The step I think you missed is to route the mouse pointer,
(VoiceOver+Command+F5). Do this just before you do the VoiceOver+Shift+Space
action.
Lynne
On 22 Jul 2012, at 05:40
: Monday, 23 July 2012 9:13 AM
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
yes it is. I don't do lyn's method, but even though I do something similar
it is hit and miss, mostly for me, miss. lol! but it will take practice.
On Jul 22, 2012, at 3
Can you do a vo shift space on the tab using voice over? Since I don't play
with the java prefs I won't be of much help but hopefully it's a push in the
right direction.
On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:
Hi there
Can somebody please tell me how to change the tab group in
To: Mac OSX iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover
Can you do a vo shift space on the tab using voice over? Since I don't play
with the java prefs I won't be of much help but hopefully it's a push in
the right direction.
On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Paula
Hi Paula,
Hang on there. I now remember that there are some accessibility issues in
navigating Java Preferences. I reported this to Apple the last time I had to
look here. You're going to have to use your trackpad to move to the radio
button for network and click it. Set up VoiceOver
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