RE: [Mac-Access]: pages question

[Ann Byrne]

Can I export it somewhere to Braille it???
At 11:23 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:

Yes put it in your bookmarks

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Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:
>Hello Ismael,
>
>In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the
>Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO
>keys to navigate down to this option.
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>Cheers,
>
>Anne
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Re: [Mac-Access]: pages question

[Ann Byrne]

Is there a way to save the help file for future reference???
At 10:19 AM 6/7/2015, you wrote:

Hello Ismael,

In Pages, you can find the full list of shortcuts by going to the 
Help menu and down to Keyboard Shortcuts. You need to use the VO 
keys to navigate down to this option.


Cheers,

Anne


> On 6 Jun 2015, at 10:03, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
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Re: [Mac-Access]: help with pages

[Ann Byrne]

Is there a way to convert an iBook to a .txt or 
.rtf file to be read on a portable player???




At 03:52 AM 5/25/2015, you wrote:

Hello Margaret,

Have you tried Tim Sniffen’s free iBook, 
"Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver”? A 
lot of people have found it very useful and it covers using Pages.


Cheers,

Anne


On 25 May 2015, at 07:56, Margaret Booth 
<margaretebo...@gmail.com> wrote:


I’m helping a friend of mine to learn how to 
use Pages on her new Mac Book Air.


Has anyone got suggestions on where I could 
find a learners guide on how to use Pages the word processor.


The other question I have is how do you get to 
the templates after you have created a new 
document? Also how to you use styles?


Margaret

[Mac-access]: Keystroke to read the whole stinkin' screen

[Ann Byrne]

What keystroke would I use to read the whole screen from top to 
bottom, the way--pardon me for the reference--the JAWS cursor will 
read a Windows screen?  I keep getting stuck in places where I know 
there is other content and I can't get there.


thanks.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Compatible Mac Keyboards

[Ann Byrne]

Because I don't like the touch on the Apple keyboard, I bought a 
McAlly keyboard instead.  it was inexpensive, had a great feel, and 
only some of the time would it respond to the VO keys.  So I'm back 
with the Apple, but I would like one that more give when I push the keys.


At 08:00 AM 4/5/2015, you wrote:

Hi!

I'm looking at other keyboards to use with my Mac other than the one 
shipped with the Mac or the one you buy from Apple, I've been using 
a Bluetooth keyboard and there's nothing wrong with the board per 
say though I'm very much impressed with the look and feel of the 
latest Logitech offering I'm using on my Windows machine, the MX800.


I did a Google search on compatible Mac keyboards and discovered the 
Logitedh diNovo keyboard, its a Bluetooth board and seems to be very 
highly regarded so I thought I'd give it a try, I've ordered one and 
I should have it after Easter though I do warn anyone considering 
this keyboard that it will set you back around $100.


If anyone on the list has tried one of these boards then I'd be most 
interested in hearing hwat you think or perhaps you've tried another 
Mac compatible keyboard offering.



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[Mac-access]: Changing font size

[Ann Byrne]

How do I change font size in Textedit?  If I go to the combo box and 
type in 14, nothing happens.  if I type in 14and press enter, the 14 
is appended to the text.  If I select 14 and press enter, the number 
appears in a little space all its own, and I have a hard time 
returning to the text.


There must be an easy way

thanks,

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[Mac-access]: Setting Text Edit as my default app for .docx

[Ann Byrne]

I want to set text edit as the default editor for .docx files.  With 
a .docx file selected, I press command-i, and vo-right arrow to 'open 
with'.  But the only choice I find is preview.  There is no list of 
choices.  Can someone please walk me through this to find the stinkin' list???


thanks

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[Mac-access]: IS Google docs or Google calendar accessible on the Mac?

[Ann Byrne]

My family is using Google docs and google calendar to 
coomunicate.  is either application accessible on the Mac?


thanks,

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Re: [Mac-access]: Where to find complete list of keystrokes?

[Ann Byrne]

What I want is a list I can print in 20-point print for my 
student.  Can I copy the help files



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[Mac-access]: Where to find complete list of keystrokes?

[Ann Byrne]

I am looking for two complete lists of keystrokes: One for VoiceOver 
with Yosemite and one for Yosemite itself.  I have been to 
apple.com/accessibility and not found either, but I am probably a 
poor searcher.  Please can someone give me directions??, or perhaps 
direct links?


Much thanks,

Ann

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[Mac-access]: Tutorial for Pages???

[Ann Byrne]

Can someone refer me to a document or podcast about using Pages with VoiceOver?

Much thanks,

Ann
   


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[Mac-access]: Is MS Word Accessible on the Mac?

[Ann Byrne]

I understand that MS Word works on the iPhone with voiceOver.  Does 
it also work on the Mac?


thanks.

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[Mac-access]: Teaching materials?

[Ann Byrne]

John,

Are you a Mac instructor?  Do you have teaching materials you could 
recommend ... or sell?  I am working from Janet Ingber's book from 
NBP on learning the Mac, but would be interested in more inclusive 
instruction if it were available.  I teach windows/Office, but have a 
possible Mac student starting in April ... and obviously I am 
unprepared!  (LOL)


thanks,

Ann

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Re: [Mac-access]: Can't write to existing files; can't create new ones

[Ann Byrne]

Didn't erase.  How do you do that
At 08:48 PM 3/9/2015, you wrote:
   This is really odd. I've never heard of this occurring.  Did you 
do an erase and then restore?



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> On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> I restored the opearting system from the recovery partition and 
the permissions did not reset.

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[Mac-access]: Can't write to existing files; can't create new ones

[Ann Byrne]

I restored the opearting system from the recovery partition and the 
permissions did not reset.


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Re: [Mac-access]: read/write permissions

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Nope.  No dice.  Drat and blast!
At 04:09 PM 3/8/2015, you wrote:
  Have you tried resetting all permissions from the recovery HD? 
You'd need to boot into it with command-r, and then after turning 
on VoiceOver, select, Terminal, from the Utilities menu.  You would 
type, resetpassword as one word, and from that dialog, you can 
reset all of your permissions in one shot.



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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> No.  I have messed up permissions Mac-wide.  I can't save a new 
file.  I can't change an old file.  Safari won't stay connected for 
more than a few seconds.  Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch 
a computer!  (LOL)

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[Mac-access]: Resetting the Mac

[Ann Byrne]

From the HD recovery disk, can I reinstall the operating system, 
resetting everything???  


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Re: [Mac-access]: read/write permissions

[Ann Byrne]

Do I press command-r while the Mac is running and it reboots, or do I 
shut it down and then boot while holding command-r, ... or some other how?


Thanks
At 04:09 PM 3/8/2015, you wrote:
  Have you tried resetting all permissions from the recovery HD? 
You'd need to boot into it with command-r, and then after turning 
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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> No.  I have messed up permissions Mac-wide.  I can't save a new 
file.  I can't change an old file.  Safari won't stay connected for 
more than a few seconds.  Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch 
a computer!  (LOL)

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> I'm thinking about a trip to the Apple genius!
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Re: [Mac-access]: read/write permissions

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No.  I have messed up permissions Mac-wide.  I can't save a new 
file.  I can't change an old file.  Safari won't stay connected for 
more than a few seconds.  Some people shouldn't be allowed to touch a 
computer!  (LOL)


I'm thinking about a trip to the Apple genius!

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[Mac-access]: read/write permissions

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When I try to edit a document on my Mac air, I get a message stating 
that I don't own the file and cannot change it.  I screwed up and 
made this happen, but I haven't figured out how to unscrew it.  Can I 
just take the computer back to the time before I messed it up, or 
will someone please give me step-by-babystep directions on how to fix 
this one???


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[Mac-access]: system report

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What is system report under computer?  It shows me about sixty items 
in a list, but no information about them that I can find.  Hard disk, 
card reader, etc.  Does this mean the computer has these things, or 
might have these things in a different life?  How can I find more 
information about the items??


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[Mac-access]: One system message

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My Mac keeps interrupting me in menus to say 'one system message'.  I 
think it has to do with my opening an Excel spread sheet without a 
program to read Excel, but I don't know.  So far I can't find a way 
to read this message.  I have tried Item chooser, but it doesn't show 
me the message.  this is with Yosemite on a MacBook Pro.  any suggestions?


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Re: [Mac-access]: Finding my place in Text Edit

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No chance of finding a page number and going to it somehow???

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[Mac-access]: Finding my place in Text Edit

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when I have read 10 pages of an 80-page document and shut down the 
computer, is there a way in text Edit to go back to page 10?  if I 
remember the topic, would I use command-f?  VO-f?


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[Mac-access]: How do I read an error message?

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On my screen I can move to 'yes' and 'no', with VO and the arrow 
keys.  There is obviously a message requiring a response, but I don't 
know how to get to it.  Can I read the screen somehow from top to 
bottom, including everything?


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[Mac-access]: Listing the information about the HD volume

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what is the keystroke for finding out the capacity of the hard drive 
on the Mac?


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Re: [Mac-access]: An iPad Question.

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 If the iPad is in landscape mode, try changing it to 
portrait.  That seems to make a lot fewer screen splittings.

At 03:28 PM 1/28/2015, you wrote:
There is no setting to change this behaviour. What happens; the 
categories like "general" appears on the left hand side. Double tap 
to select and show settings for that category on the right hand 
side. To make it easier you may want to look into turning the rotor 
to containers and navigate by them.
> On 28 Jan 2015, at 21:24, Jim Noseworthy 
 wrote:

>
> Hello Folks:
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> I am trying to help a person with her iPad and Voiceover.  I have an iPhone
> but not an iPad.
>
> The problem is that, if she opens an item, for example Bluetooth settings
> under settings, in stead of her speech focused in the Bluetooth setup menu,
> it goes back to the Setup menu.  She then has to swipe quite a few times in
> order to enter the opened Bluetooth settings menu.
>
> Is there a setting on the iPad to prevent that from happening?  Is that a
> "container" thing?
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[Mac-access]: List of hot keys for OSX?

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I found a list of VoiceOver keystrokes which is maybe complete.  Is 
there somewhere a list of keystrokes for OSX, as well?  I hadn't seen 
the shortcut for force quit, for example.  Or do I just extract the 
keystrokes from the system as i work through it?


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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

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How do I even get to a place where the program has no windowhat I did 
to get there.

At 04:35 PM 1/3/2015, you wrote:
I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and 
then log back in again and this clears it.




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>I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down 
because mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no 
windows'.  Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu 
i don't find an item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close 
the mail program??

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[Mac-access]: mail has no windows

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I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down 
because mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no 
windows'.  Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i 
don't find an item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close the 
mail program??


Thanks,

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[Mac-access]: Setting a different homepage in Safari

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Is there an easy way to set a homepage in Safari.  Currently my Mac 
defaults to Apple.com, and I want it to default to something else.


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Re: [Mac-access]: Answering phone calls on a mac

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Is that a Yosemite feature?  Guess I should upgrade.
At 05:35 PM 12/8/2014, you wrote:
It should just  happen with hand off. Now, I am aware that it is 
broken for some, me included and I did get it set up right, how ever 
I cannot get this to work.

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>> For the first time I answered a call on my mac since upgrading 
to Yosemite and iOS 8 on both iPhone and iPad, needed to confirm 
that I really wanted to add a recipient to my online bank account, 
they call it phone authentication, anyway they got me to enter four 
digits correctly, this I was able to do all with no difficulties. 
FaceTime opened on my mac with the incoming call being displayed. 
So pressed return to accept. Then, amazingly, could use the number 
row of keys to answer the voice prompts and to enter the four 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Answering phone calls on a mac

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How do I tell the Mac to answer phone calls???
lAt 02:37 PM 12/8/2014, you wrote:

Hi all,
For the first time I answered a call on my mac since upgrading to 
Yosemite and iOS 8 on both iPhone and iPad, needed to confirm that I 
really wanted to add a recipient to my online bank account, they 
call it phone authentication, anyway they got me to enter four 
digits correctly, this I was able to do all with no difficulties. 
FaceTime opened on my mac with the incoming call being displayed. So 
pressed return to accept. Then, amazingly, could use the number row 
of keys to answer the voice prompts and to enter the four digits, 
sound quality was amazing as well.

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[Mac-access]: Transferring files from the computer to the iPad?

[Ann Byrne]

My client has a CD of instructional files she would like to listen to 
on her iPad.  I have a windows machine and a Mac.  How can I make 
these files availabel to her?  I haven't seen them yet.  I know I can 
convert them to .mp3 on the Windows machine, but how then to get them 
to the iPad?  Would the Mac be a better agent for transfer?

Thanks for the help.

Ann

At 11:14 PM 12/4/2014, you wrote:
Phil covered selecting columns and rows comprehensively. As for 
VoiceOver still announcing hidden columns, this is only if you use 
the VO keys to navigate. If you just navigate using the arrow keys 
alone, as is generally the better option, then VoiceOver will only 
announce the visible rows and columns. This is the same when you 
filter your tables: navigating with VO keys will not appear any 
different, but if you navigate with the arrow keys alone you'll only 
see the filtered rows and columns. Using VO keys to navigate can get 
you into mischief as the VoiceOver cursor selects invisible cells, 
but the keyboard cursor does not, and this can lead to undesired results.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Finally Solved My Voiceover Crashing Issue

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What is 'trainer mode"?
At 12:16 PM 11/27/2014, you wrote:
Okay so what’s that supposed to do? > On 28 
Nov 2014, at 4:59 am, Sarah k Alawami 
 wrote: > > The next time 
the crash happens just invoke trainer mode and 
hit  escape. I have the crashign issues, how 
ever in my case it's a bug with  yosemite and 
has been happing since I first started usign a 
mac in 2010. > > > > Take cre. >> On Nov 26, 
2014, at 10:49 PM, Dane Trethowan 
 wrote: >> >> 
Hi! >> >> I wrote to the list with a problem 
that had me perplexed for months. >> >> For no 
apparent reason Voiceover was crashing on my 
system, that is to say that Speech wouldn’t be 
announced or read but sounds kept working and I 
could keep typing so when writing an eMail for 
instance I could keep writing and then restart 
the computer, Voiceover would relaunch as per 
normal and I could continue my writing from 
where I left off when problems began, an 
annoyance but nothing critical. >> >> My iMac 
was at the hospital last week where it was 
diagnosed that I had a faulty logic board so I 
replaced the iMac - which was my main computer - 
with my new Mac Mini, hooked everything up and 
got ready to cruise. >> >> Low and behold, the 
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[Mac-access]: Music

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Can I play .mp3 files on the Mac without going through iTunes?  Will 
it play .wma files?  If I paste my music library from the PC, mostly 
.mp3 files but a few .wma's, into the iTunes library, will iTunes 
convert them or do I have to do something???  I have a .midi folder I 
would like to transfer.  Will the Mac play that???


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Re: downloading the non-compact voice

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How do I tell it to do this?  ITunes?  Update something  He has 
the compact voice, but he wants the good one of course.

At 11:29 AM 9/23/2012, you wrote:

Dear Ann,
Your husband needs to plug his iPhone 4S into a power source, and be 
connected over Wi-Fi, for the compact voice to download. It may take 
a few minutes after the connection is made to do this, so I'd 
suggest plugging it in when it needs to charge anyway.

Best,
Zack.
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> On my iPhone 4 in IOS 6 as previously, under 
settings/accessibility/voiceOver, there is a choice "Turn on 
compact voice'; On my husband's iPhone 4S that choice is not 
visible.  How might I find it???

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Re: Nice Change in iOS 6

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On my iPhone 4 in IOS 6 as previously, under 
settings/accessibility/voiceOver, there is a choice "Turn on compact 
voice'; On my husband's iPhone 4S that choice is not visible.  How 
might I find it???


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Re: Help with browsing the net.

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How do I avoid the toolbar at the top of the page that has links to 
Google, Yahoo, and so on, and just get to the html content???

At 05:07 PM 8/7/2012, you wrote:

Hello Kaz

Before I go any further, I strongly encourage you to use the list 
archives pages.  You will find a great deal of the information 
there.  You can find the archive page at:


There's also our own archive but for the moment I think you'll find 
that one more than sufficient.  Of course, this does not prohibit 
you from asking questions, not at all.  I'm just trying to save you 
time and effort.


Despite what some of the so-called accessibility gurus biased 
towards Windows would have you believe, there is a great deal of 
merit in browsing the Internet with VoiceOver and Safari.  Edit 
boxers just work as you find them, no need to press enter on them as 
you would with, for instance, Window-Eyes.  In fact, when I go back 
to that application it makes me wonder how on earth I ever used it!


I hope you get your use out of the Mac and I urge you to think about 
acquiring the "Take Control" series of books which have a great deal 
of information regarding how you use a Mac.  If you want to know 
more about these titles, which we offer at an 80 percent discount to 
our members, feel free to write to us off list, .


Also, if you press "Command+Control+Option+F8", you'll be placed 
into the "VoiceOver Quick-start" guide.  That will give you the 
basics of VoiceOver usage, at least, enough to give you the concepts 
of using VoiceOver.  VoiceOver differs from many Windows-based 
screen-reading applications in as much as it presents you with a 
webpage in a similar way to that which those with vision get.  This 
differs from the molly-coddling approach which they take under 
Windows with the "MSAA" environment.


Feel free to come back with any further questions at any time.  I am 
sure the list members will make you feel welcome.  But speaking on 
behalf of the list owners, (myself and Lynne), welcome to Mac Access 
and, more importantly still, welcome to the world of Mac.  Once you 
get over the differences you'll never go back!


Gordon

On 7 Aug 2012, at 21:38, Karen Burgess  wrote:

Very new to the Mac and looking for some basic help.

If I'm using safari are their basic key strokes I can use for 
getting around web pages? For example how do I easily find where I 
need to type in a web address? Also, how do I easily find an edit 
box to type something in and things like a submit button etc.


This is all very new to me so any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: different mail program??

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what might help is to listen to Mike Arigo's podcast about Mac mail 
on Blindcooltech.com.

At 02:24 PM 7/6/2012, you wrote:
I just got my mac last week so I'm still learning.  Was wondering if 
anyone has ran across a better mail program than what is built in 
the mac?  for some reason the program doesn't update my mail after a 
couple hours after I set up the email.  I'm not getting any error 
messages, I actually think the mail is downloading, but those new 
messages don't show up first, no matter how I set up rules ans 
settnings.  I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong in regards to this 
mail program.  thanks for any thoughts on this.

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New to Apple and showing my ignorance here of course, but what is a 
track pad?  I just bought Mac software for my five-year-old grandson, 
and wonder if a track pad would be better for him than a mouse.  Is a 
track pad blue tooth or USB, or do I have a choice?  How big is it?


thanks,


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My music teacher friend needs a large hard drive to transport songs 
from school to school.  the schools have Macs and she gets the music 
from her own PC.


Will an external hard drive work equally well on both types of 
computer?  Is one kind better than another/  easier to use???


thanks,

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Re: Transferring files to the Mac

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Oh, boy!  What's the 'go menu'?
At 03:50 PM 6/25/2012, you wrote:
don't forgt cmd option l for the downloads 
location. YOu can find all of this a and more under the go menu.


Take care.
On Jun 25, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Esther wrote:

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>
> Welcome to the list. In additions to John's 
hint about editing your Finder preferences to 
show these external drives on the Desktop, you 
can always view all the drives that are 
connected to your computer by using the 
shortcut to display your computer setup, 
cmd-shift-c.  From Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver page 
on shortcuts, here are the relevant ones for 
Finder browsing use and to use in save and open dialog windows:
>   • cmd-shift-a - applications: Brings 
focus to the applications folder.

>   • cmd-shift-h - Home: Brings focus to the user's Home directory.
>   • cmd-shift-d - Desktop: Brings focus to the desktop.
>   • cmd-shift-u - Utilities folder: 
Brings focus to the Utilities folder.
>   • cmd-shift-i - idisk: Brings focus to 
the user's iDisk. [note: does not work for the 
newer OS or for older versions of the OS after June 30, 2012]
>   • cmd-shift-c - Computer: Brings focus 
to the users computer so that attached drives 
and removable media can be easily accessed.
>   • cmd-shift-g - Go to folder: this is 
especially useful for accessing areas that are normally invisible to the GUI.

> I'd add:
>   • cmd-shift-o - Documents: Brings focus to the Documents folder.
>
> I think Tim's web page may be disappearing 
with the end of Mobile Me service and the 
migration to iCloud after June 30, but in the 
meantime you might want to look over the content:

> http://web.me.com/kilburns/voiceover/shortcuts.html
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> The cmd-shift-g "Go to folder" shortcut is 
particularly useful if you want to move 
directly to a folder on any connected 
drive.  For example, if I want to copy files to 
or from a specific folder of a flash drive, and 
I know the name under which the flash drive gets mounted, which might be named:

> /Volumes/Crucial/Special
> in the case of my Crucial memory stick, where 
I created a folder named "Special" for the 
contents, then I can use the cmd-shift-g 
shortcut and then type the path 
"/Volumes/Crucial/Special" (without the 
quotation marks) into the dialog text box and 
press enter to go to that location.  Or if 
you've already selected your flash drive from 
your desktop or from the Finder view shown in 
cmd-shift-c, you can either use cmd-shift-g and 
type "Special" into the dialog text box, or you 
can navigate through the Finder tree view menu 
structure to the folder you want.  The 
cmd-shift-g shortcut is most useful when you 
have a particular folder you want to get to -- 
often many levels deep -- and you know the exact pathname.

>
> Take a look at Tim's other entries for 
VoiceOver tips and tricks, and a few of his 
notes for specific applications under Snow 
Leopard.  Even though this is the older 
operating system, most of the content 
applies.  The nice thing about Tim's page is 
that similar commands are grouped together, and 
he points out the most useful 
features/applications.  This material is also 
in the VoiceOver Getting Started guide that you 
can access with VO-H, but it's laid out from a practical user's perspective.

>
> HTH.  Cheers,
>
> Esther
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> On Jun 25, 2012, at 8:57 AM, John Panarese wrote:
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>>   It should show up on the desktop when you 
plug it in.  If not, when in Finder, type a 
command-comma to open Finder 
Preferences.  There should be a series of 
checkboxes to show specific items on the 
desktop.  Be sure that external drives is checked.

>>
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:49 PM, josh gregory  wrote:
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>>> Good afternoon:
>>> I'm Josh, and I just joined this list today. I have a question,
>>> since this is dealing with flash drives and mac and all.
>>> I just got a macbook pro last Monday, and I love it!!! So, how can I
>>> find my flash drive in finder? In windows I just typed g and then a
>>> colon and it popped up. This doesn't seem to work in lion. Thoughts?
>>> And Arthur, thanks for that command on ejecting. I got that same
>>> error when I just pulled it out.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Josh
>>>
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Re: Transferring files to the Mac

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So what I did was, on the PC in windows 7, remove all the files from 
the flash drive, format it, return the files, use eject to release 
the drive, and then take it back to the Mac.  which saw it just 
fine.  then I had to remember to use eject before removing it from the Mac.


This transition thing is totally awful!  thanks for the help.

Ann

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Re: Transferring files to the Mac

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They are my miscellaneous flash drives, with mostly documentation, 
but a little music, some .exe files, just a bunch of stuff I carry 
around to student computers.  The Apple spoke a message about the 
drives not having been ejected correctly, and if I could figure out 
how to do it the Mac would fix the drive; but I couldn't figure it 
out.  I went back to the PC, where Windows 7 read everything without 
a hitch, and in the context menu went to 'eject' and pressed enter, 
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I had hoped to transfer some documents---actually, all of my 
documents--from the PC to the Mac.  But when I put in the flash 
drive, I get the message that the disk cannot be read.  The only one 
of my four flash drives that the Mac is happy to look at is the NVDA 
installation disk.  I would have expected the Mac at least to read 
the list of folders.


Am I missing something???

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I'm a windows user, just starting with the Mac.  With JAWS I would 
activate the JAWS cursor, arrow to the field, and press the left 
mouse click button.  is there an equivalent action on a Mac?


thanks a bunch,

Ann
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Re: Disabling the preview pain in mail using 10.6.8?

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Is there a key sequence?
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On Jun 21, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:

> How do you click on something???
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Re: Disabling the preview pain in mail using 10.6.8?

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How do you click on something???
At 05:54 PM 6/21/2012, you wrote:
I believe you need to physically click on it. That's at least ; ' 
how I do it. Maybe their's another way. but I don't know it.

On Jun 21, 2012, at 3:27 PM, matthew Dyer wrote:

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>
> I would like to disable the preview pain in mail using sl version 
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still possible?  I tried to vo shhift space on the spliter.  Thanks.

>
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Re: New Take Control Book Available now!

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Hey, Lynne,

A windows user for the last twenty years, I finally bought a used Mac 
Mini.  So far, I hate it.


So what I would like to do is purchase probably every Take Control 
book there is.  But when I go to the web site to make selections, 
JAWS can't figure out the radio buttons for paying.  I have a Visa 
card and a Paypal account, but I'm in the US so money would have to 
be translated.  Can you rescue me???


thanks.

Ann






Hello everybody

For those of you who bought the "Take Control of iCloud" book from 
us recently, we have an updated version available. Those of you who 
may be interested in buying this book, the usual 80% discount 
applies if you buy from us.


This book is an excellent resource for anybody interested in getting 
the best out of iCloud using your iOS device and your Mac or PC.


Feel free to contact us if you already bought the book, and we will 
update your bookshelf. The book is available in ePub, Mobi-Pocket 
and PDF formats.


Lynne

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Re: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail

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erver from the pop up menu, then 
choosing to "Edit SMTP Server List…" (the second 
set of instructions that start with "1"), but 
the detailed instructions would depend on your 
specific server configuration.  Again, you'd end 
up selecting the "Advanced" tab to make your 
changes to port number.  There is an option with 
radio buttons to select either using the default 
ports (25, 465, or 587) or to use a custom port 
(and fill in the number in the text box).


This is the sort of material that I never 
remember, and that the "Take Control" guide 
series supplies so well. So I really hope that 
they have an update to the volume on Apple Mail in Snow Leopard for Lion.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:

> Hi, Esther,
>
> I'm still fighting the mail battle with my 
newly acquired Mac mini.  In your post below, I 
can get through step 4, but in step 5 can't 
figure out how to navigate to the settings of 
port and so on.  It's user ignorance, of course.  Can you rescue me???

>
> Thanks for all the help.
>
> Ann
> At 08:02 PM 2/19/2012, you wrote:
>> Hello Anne,
>>
>> I'm not sure how your mail port settings 
should be configured, but you can get to this 
information through your Mail preferences settings.

>>
>> 1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu
>> 2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your 
title bar and press it. A quick way to do this 
is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar 
then tab to the "Accounts" button and press 
with VO-Space, then tab past the last button to 
where you here "Accounts, table"
>> 3. Interact with the table to select the 
account you want to work with then stop interacting with the table
>> 4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the 
"Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and select it 
(VO-Space).  These are the advanced settings 
for the account that you selected, whose basic 
information was specified on the "Account information" tab (1 of 3).
>> 5. Navigate to the advanced options that 
include text boxes for items such as IMPA Path 
Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes.

>> 6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done.
>>
>> One of the very useful guides in the "Take 
Control" series of ebooks put out by TidBITS is 
the one dealing with Apple Mail.  The last 
available version is "Take Control of Apple in 
Snow Leopard" and there is not yet an update 
for Lion.  I'd wait for the new version to 
appear, then take advantage of the special 80 
per cent discount that members of this list 
have for purchasing the Take Control 
guides.  To read more about this, check the 
"Breaking News!" link at the main mac-access.net web page:

>> http://www.mac-access.net/
>> These guides have all sorts of information 
that I haven't found as easily in other 
places.  At typical prices to list members of 
$2 to $3 per guide, and with permanent access 
to the latest revisions and updates for 
download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think 
these are well worth if if you need more 
extensive information on one of these subjects 
than you can get from questions on the list.

>>
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>>
>> > On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive 
mail, but can't send it.  I think the problem 
is with the ports.  In mail, under accounts, 
advanced, I can't find the place to change the 
port settings.  I found it once, and it said 
25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2.  the 
second was a custom, and I guess that's what I 
needed, because instead of 25 it should be 
995.  But I wanted to double check.  And I have 
*never, not once, been able to get back to that dialog.

>> >
>> > Can someone tell me please how to get 
there???  Or am I barking up the wrong mailbox?

>> >
>> > thanks much,
>> >
>> > Ann
>> >
>>

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Re: Getting to the ports to set up e-mail

[Ann Byrne]

Hi, Esther,

I'm still fighting the mail battle with my newly acquired Mac 
mini.  In your post below, I can get through step 4, but in step 5 
can't figure out how to navigate to the settings of port and so 
on.  It's user ignorance, of course.  Can you rescue me???


Thanks for all the help.

Ann
At 08:02 PM 2/19/2012, you wrote:

Hello Anne,

I'm not sure how your mail port settings should be configured, but 
you can get to this information through your Mail preferences settings.


1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu
2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your title bar and press it. 
A quick way to do this is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar 
then tab to the "Accounts" button and press with VO-Space, then tab 
past the last button to where you here "Accounts, table"
3. Interact with the table to select the account you want to work 
with then stop interacting with the table
4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the "Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and 
select it (VO-Space).  These are the advanced settings for the 
account that you selected, whose basic information was specified on 
the "Account information" tab (1 of 3).
5. Navigate to the advanced options that include text boxes for 
items such as IMPA Path Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes.

6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done.

One of the very useful guides in the "Take Control" series of ebooks 
put out by TidBITS is the one dealing with Apple Mail.  The last 
available version is "Take Control of Apple in Snow Leopard" and 
there is not yet an update for Lion.  I'd wait for the new version 
to appear, then take advantage of the special 80 per cent discount 
that members of this list have for purchasing the Take Control 
guides.  To read more about this, check the "Breaking News!" link at 
the main mac-access.net web page:

http://www.mac-access.net/
These guides have all sorts of information that I haven't found as 
easily in other places.  At typical prices to list members of $2 to 
$3 per guide, and with permanent access to the latest revisions and 
updates for download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think these are 
well worth if if you need more extensive information on one of these 
subjects than you can get from questions on the list.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:

> On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send 
it.  I think the problem is with the ports.  In mail, under 
accounts, advanced, I can't find the place to change the port 
settings.  I found it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio 
button, 1 of 2.  the second was a custom, and I guess that's what I 
needed, because instead of 25 it should be 995.  But I wanted to 
double check.  And I have *never, not once, been able to get back 
to that dialog.

>
> Can someone tell me please how to get there???  Or am I barking 
up the wrong mailbox?

>
> thanks much,
>
> Ann
>

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Getting to the ports to set up e-mail

[Ann Byrne]

On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send it.  I 
think the problem is with the ports.  In mail, under accounts, 
advanced, I can't find the place to change the port settings.  I 
found it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2.  the 
second was a custom, and I guess that's what I needed, because 
instead of 25 it should be 995.  But I wanted to double check.  And I 
have *never, not once, been able to get back to that dialog.


Can someone tell me please how to get there???  Or am I barking up 
the wrong mailbox?


thanks much,

Ann

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