Re: [MacGroup] Gmail question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Lee,

> On Nov 27, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Nov 26, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>> I would really like to get rid of the archive box / folder but can’t figure 
>> out how to do so.
> 
> Gmail is kind of screwy with IMAP because it uses labels instead of real 
> folders, so there are some translation issues. I think the Archive folder in 
> Apple mail is really the All Mail label in Gmail. As such, you can’t remove 
> it from Gmail because every non-trashed Gmail message has the label All Mail. 
> But, you should be able to remove it from the list seen by IMAP. Try logging 
> into your Gmail account and turning off the Show in IMAP option under 
> Settings>Labels. You might have to restart mail to get it to catch hold.

This worked. I turned off show in imap “All Mail” and it 
removed the archived mail box from mail on my computer. That’s great!
> 
>> I don’t want any messages archived. How can I prevent gmail from archiving 
>> messages?
> 
> You might try under Settings>Forwarding and IMAP/POP to massage your settings 
> for deletion and expunge. I don’t know how to stop it from archiving sent 
> messages, except by using another SMTP server

> 
> You just have to remember, from Google’s viewpoint, you are the product and 
> they are the consumer. They don’t want you to delete emails because scanning 
> your emails gives them more information about you. They make their money 
> selling you to their advertisers. In other words, Gmail isn’t free. I use 
> Gmail as my junk mailbox, but I don’t do anything personal on it.
> 
> L^2
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Re: [MacGroup] Gmail question

[John Robinson]

Lee,

Thanks as always, your so helpful….your last paragraph is why I use almost 
nothing of Google, not email, not maps, other than Google Earth…I guess they 
will know I have an interest in certain places on the planet…I do use their 
search as I didn’t find Bing as deep in it’s searches…so Google knows 
everything I have ever looked up…and will keep it forever…I bet they find my 
life to be very boring..

John



> On Nov 27, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Nov 26, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
> 
>> I would really like to get rid of the archive box / folder but can’t figure 
>> out how to do so.
> 
> Gmail is kind of screwy with IMAP because it uses labels instead of real 
> folders, so there are some translation issues. I think the Archive folder in 
> Apple mail is really the All Mail label in Gmail. As such, you can’t remove 
> it from Gmail because every non-trashed Gmail message has the label All Mail. 
> But, you should be able to remove it from the list seen by IMAP. Try logging 
> into your Gmail account and turning off the Show in IMAP option under 
> Settings>Labels. You might have to restart mail to get it to catch hold.cerc
> 
>> I don’t want any messages archived. How can I prevent gmail from archiving 
>> messages?
> 
> You might try under Settings>Forwarding and IMAP/POP to massage your settings 
> for deletion and expunge. I don’t know how to stop it from archiving sent 
> messages, except by using another SMTP server.
> 
> You just have to remember, from Google’s viewpoint, you are the product and 
> they are the consumer. They don’t want you to delete emails because scanning 
> your emails gives them more information about you. They make their money 
> selling you to their advertisers. In other words, Gmail isn’t free. I use 
> Gmail as my junk mailbox, but I don’t do anything personal on it.
> 
> L^2
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Gmail question

[Lee Larson]

On Nov 26, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:

> I would really like to get rid of the archive box / folder but can’t figure 
> out how to do so.

Gmail is kind of screwy with IMAP because it uses labels instead of real 
folders, so there are some translation issues. I think the Archive folder in 
Apple mail is really the All Mail label in Gmail. As such, you can’t remove it 
from Gmail because every non-trashed Gmail message has the label All Mail. But, 
you should be able to remove it from the list seen by IMAP. Try logging into 
your Gmail account and turning off the Show in IMAP option under 
Settings>Labels. You might have to restart mail to get it to catch hold.

> I don’t want any messages archived. How can I prevent gmail from archiving 
> messages?

You might try under Settings>Forwarding and IMAP/POP to massage your settings 
for deletion and expunge. I don’t know how to stop it from archiving sent 
messages, except by using another SMTP server.

You just have to remember, from Google’s viewpoint, you are the product and 
they are the consumer. They don’t want you to delete emails because scanning 
your emails gives them more information about you. They make their money 
selling you to their advertisers. In other words, Gmail isn’t free. I use Gmail 
as my junk mailbox, but I don’t do anything personal on it.

L^2



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[MacGroup] Gmail question

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

In mail there is an archive Mail box.

Two of my three mail accounts (iCloud and Gmail) have folders in archive 
“Archive” on my Mac. Only Gmail puts emails in the archive box.

I would really like to get rid of the archive box / folder but can’t figure out 
how to do so.

I don’t want any messages archived. How can I prevent gmail from archiving 
messages?

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