Re: (CB) Adding DND to apps

2003-02-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Dan Mills wrote: I only have one question: If I don't specify anything for my application_openFile function, it still seems to work perfectly. This makes sense for the arguments (it takes @@ and CB figures that out), but the return type is not

Re: CPAN r always reports old versions

2003-02-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:40 PM, Lorin Rivers wrote: It looks as if there's perl stuff in both /Library/Perl/darwin and /System/Library/Perl/darwin The latter seems to include the outdated things CPAN reports, but CPAN installs stuff into the former. How do I fix things? There's

Re: Rendezvous in Perl

2003-02-24 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 03:01 AM, Nathan Torkington wrote: My friend Rael was wondering where the Perl implementation of Rendezvous (zeroconf) is. How do I register my service? How do I browse for local machines and services? I don't have X.II to test this with, but nothing in the

Re: Dependency Hell (Test::Harness)

2003-02-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, February 23, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Ken Williams wrote: If I were you, though, I'd just install Test::Harness into the standard /Library/Perl/ (Apple knows this is the location users will be installing modules into, that's what that directory is for), and install with sudo make

Re: (CB) Adding DND to apps

2003-02-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, February 23, 2003, at 05:45 PM, Dan Mills wrote: Would it be easy to subclass it in objc and just add a stub that calls a perl function? (or am I better off just waiting for the next CB? I'm not in a crazy hurry to get DND). It depends on your requirements, and your willingness to

Re: (CB) Adding DND to apps

2003-02-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 12:35 AM, Dan Mills wrote: $OBJC_EXPORT{'application:openFile:'} = { 'args'='@@', 'return'='c' }; What do '@@' and 'c' mean? And why is this needed (but not needed for things like 'myApp::openDocument' which is called magically when I press M-o or click on

Re: (CB) Adding DND to apps

2003-02-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
By the way - you guys do realize that adding DD to your apps will probably get you sued by Wizards of the Coast, right? You might want to check with your attorney before proceeding... ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist...) sherm-- I have no special gift, I am only passionately curious. - Albert

Re: (CB) Adding DND to apps

2003-02-21 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 11:53 AM, Dan Mills wrote: When creating a new window controller, it runs: $self-{Window}-registerForDraggedTypes (NSArray-arrayWithObjects (NSFilenamesPboardType)); Good so far... I also define this method in the window controller: ... which isn't where

Re: (CB) Adding DND to apps

2003-02-21 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:19 PM, Ken Williams wrote: No, I meant that you'd just define sub NSWindow::foo directly Oh, I see. , but I guess if NSWindow isn't implemented in Perl (or rather, if the method dispatch isn't happening from within Perl) that wouldn't be possible. Right. The

Re: Problems installing Event.pm

2003-02-17 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 17, 2003, at 01:59 PM, Andrew Brosnan wrote: On 2/17/03 at 10:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Van Allen) wrote: Has anyone successfully installed Event.pm on darwin's Perl? Installed on 10.1.5 fine Odd. It built, but failed two tests for me, using both Perl 5.8.0 and

Re: executing system command via browser

2003-02-16 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 11:17 PM, John Lin wrote: open (COMHANDLE, '/usr/local/bin/gpg --no-tty --list-keys |') or die can not list keys \n; print COMHANDLE; close (COMHANDLE) or die can not close COMHANDLE \n; For some reason, if I run this CGI script in the command line, it

Re: Installing XML::Parser error - changing libpth?

2003-02-15 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 01:52 PM, Richard Jolly wrote: I'm having trouble installing XML::Parser using because it can't find the -lexpat library Have you tried reading and following the instructions that are displayed along with the I can't find libexpat message? They're quite

[CB] A couple of new examples

2003-02-15 Thread Sherm Pendley
Two new CB examples are on my site - http://dot-app.org/. There's an example of sheets and drawers, and one of using timers. I'm running a bit short on inspiration now - what sort of examples would y'all like to see next? (Email me privately, please - no need to clutter up the list. I'll

Re: Installing XML::Parser error - changing libpth?

2003-02-15 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 05:06 PM, Richard Jolly wrote: Thank you very much. This does work. I didn't get such a helpful error message however, just Note (probably harmless): No library found for -lexpat. Where does the above message come from? It's printed when you run 'perl

Re: Installing XML::Parser error - changing libpth?

2003-02-15 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 06:58 PM, Richard Jolly wrote: On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 11:34 pm, Sherm Pendley wrote: It's printed when you run 'perl Makefile.PL'. Not for me: /usr/local/XML-Parser-2.31 80% perl Makefile.PL Note (probably harmless): No library found

Re: a question about upgrading to jaguar

2003-02-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 12:01 PM, Gary Blackburn wrote: Which sounds kinda cool, even if I don't know what it does. :-) mod_rendezvous? Jobs recently demoed a version of iTunes that had a built-in streaming server and client. It used Rendezvous to automate the discovery of

Re: (CB) Notification confusion

2003-02-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 04:52 PM, Rich Morin wrote: is it necessary to use a Cocoa object as the item or can one use a Perl string? It must be a Cocoa object. Ordinarily, this would include Perl strings, as they're automatically promoted to NSString objects when passed to ObjC

Re: (CB) Notification confusion

2003-02-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 04:01 PM, Rich Morin wrote: I can force a crash by clicking on the disclosure triangle for .Trashes or .vol Then don't click on those. ;-) Seriously, though... Here is a workaround, until you can supply a fix... ... return(0) unless

Updated NSOutlineView example

2003-02-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
I've updated the NSOutlineView example at http://www.dot- app.org/OutlineSample.tgz. What's new: The bug reported by Rich Morin has been fixed, as he suggested. In controlTextDidEndEditing:, which I'd copied from the earlier NSBrowser example, a variable that referred to the outline view

Re: (CB) Notification confusion

2003-02-13 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 03:49 AM, Rich Morin wrote: What's the chance of your reworking your NSBrowser example into an NSOutlineView example? M'kay, then. If you enter a new path into the edit box, the root of the outline view changes to that path. Double-clicking on a folder in

Re: (CB) setAction isn't working for me

2003-02-12 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 04:04 AM, Thilo Planz wrote: In my new() method for MyWindowController.pm, I have the code: $self-{'Browser_F'}-setAction('browserFSgl:'); - (void)setAction:(SEL)aSelector Is CamelBones currently supporting SEL (selectors) at all ? Yes, it does -

Re: (CB) Notification confusion

2003-02-12 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 06:41 PM, Rich Morin wrote: # Set up a method to accept single-click events from Browser_F. I suppose this works, but it's more work than it should be. It's much easier to connect actions to their targets in Interface Builder - that's what it's there

Re: (CB) Notification confusion

2003-02-12 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 06:41 PM, Rich Morin wrote: I have my browser's plumbing working, but I found myself doing some peculiar things. I'm hoping that one of you can tell me wazzup. I've put together a sample app showing how to use NSBrowser with CB. A few notes about it: It's

Re: Announcement: PerlPad 0.1

2003-02-10 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 02:01 AM, Peter N Lewis wrote: At 23:11 -0500 9/2/03, Sherm Pendley wrote: Carbon programmers have work at it BBedit 7.0.1 certainly handles services I'm still using 6.1. Now that I think about it, at the time 6.1 was released, services support for Carbon

Re: (CB) PerlPad 0.1 + Perl 5.8

2003-02-10 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:16 AM, Thilo Planz wrote: (I suppose you have to compile CamelBones as well for you Perl 5.8 ) Yes, exactly. You'll need to change a couple of build settings to reflect the location of your 5.8 install, but no code changes should be needed. This is

Re: Announcement: PerlPad 0.1

2003-02-09 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 07:51 PM, Thilo Planz wrote: I would like some feedback, basically to see if the thing installs on other computers than my own and if someone finds it useful. Very nice, very nice. I like it! I downloaded the binary - it worked without any problems on my 10.1

Re: Creating Fat XS Modules

2003-02-07 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 07:53 PM, Ken Williams wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:14 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote: Something like this: ... stuff snipped ... For the archive record, that won't work, because 'use' is done at compile-time (here, the compile-time of the BEGIN

Re: Creating Fat XS Modules

2003-02-07 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 04:48 PM, Mark Alldritt wrote: Regarding the binary compatibility issues, is anyone aware of a reference that describes which options change binary compatibility? The ones that I'm aware of are multiplicity, threading, and 64-bit support. There may be more.

Re: What's the best POP module?

2003-02-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:13 PM, Vic Norton wrote: For simple stuff consider Net::POP3 from the libnet-1.12 package. This is probably already installed in your system. Maybe not - it's a standard module with 5.8.0, but remember, OS X ships with 5.6.0, and for that version libnet

Re: Problem installing XML::DOM

2003-02-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 05:30 AM, Gian Luca Gaiba wrote: I've encountered this problem installing XML::DOM module on MacOSX with perl 5.8.0 installed... Dyld: perl undefined Symbol Does anyone had the same? I didn't - I had older versions installed under both 5.6.0 (1.27) 5.8.0

Re: Help installing DBD:mysql on Mac OS X 10.2

2003-02-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 03:32 PM, pkeidesis wrote: depends upon this software (for example, you might want to install something that depends upon MySQL to configure itself) then it would require the source tree and your configure settings for the original software. Not at all -

Re: (CB) selectRow_byExtendingSelection ?

2003-02-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 04:10 AM, Rich Morin wrote: This works, to the extent that the last row acquires a gray band (as shown in sel_ng.pdf). However, it does not produce the golden band and consequent explanatory text (as in sel_ok.pdf) that I get when I click another row, then click

Re: Camelbones and garbage collection

2003-02-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 09:34 PM, Thilo Planz wrote: I am getting pretty close to releasing some Camelbones code on Sourceforge, although I am not sure if it can serve as an example to others. (It will feature a partly functional browser view, system services, add-on services,

Re: Named pipes and NSText (using CB)

2003-02-02 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 06:47 PM, Dan Mills wrote: So I guess NSText and friends are not happy reading from a named pipe, for whatever reason. Perhaps a silly suggestion - but have you tried giving the pipe a .rtf extension? sherm-- I have no special gift, I am only passionately

Re: Named pipes and NSText (using CB)

2003-02-02 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 01:15 AM, Dan Mills wrote: I did create an empty NSDictionary object from perl, but either it doesn't support those methods, or my complete ignorance about objc prevents me from using it. None of the following work: ...snip... What you want is this: my $dict

Re: Named pipes and NSText (using CB)

2003-02-02 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 02:28 PM, Dan Mills wrote: On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 01:19 PM, Sherm Pendley wrote: my $dict = NSDictionary-alloc-init; Interesting, so there is already a global instance of NSDictionary? No, alloc is a class method that creates a new instance. Init

Re: (CB) NSTableView font issues

2003-02-02 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, February 2, 2003, at 07:35 PM, Rich Morin wrote: BTW, I'm making this call each time I return a table cell. This seems wrong, but I've been unable to make a generic change work. You can loop over the columns in your controller's new() method, and initialize it there - that's what

Re: (CB) how to use deSelectAll in a TableView?

2003-01-31 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 12:20 AM, Rich Morin wrote: $tableview-deSelectAll(); ... When I run this, I get the message Instances of class NSTableView do not respond to selector deSelectAll Looking in the CocoaBrowser, I see: deselectAll: - (void)deselectAll:(id)sender

Re: Displaying japanese text in NSText

2003-01-30 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 12:31 PM, Dan Mills wrote: Now, everything is fine and dandy as long as I'm using plain ol' ascii text. I set the NSText contents using the 'setString' function. But, if the text is some japanese, say, euc-jp or shift-jis or utf-8 encoded, then all I get is

Re: (CB) tabView_didSelectTabViewItem usage?

2003-01-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 05:18 AM, Rich Morin wrote: sub tabView_didSelectTabViewItem { my ($self, $tv, $tvi) = @_; $tab_view_index = $tvi-indexOfTabViewItem(); NSLog(tab index: $tab_view_index); return $self; } The above should be this: $tab_view_index =

Re: (CB) editing scripts in Foo/build/Foo.app/Contents/Resources

2003-01-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 04:45 PM, Rich Morin wrote: At 4:05 PM -0500 1/29/03, Dan Sugalski wrote: That's it, though I'm not sure avoiding the build is that big a deal. It isn't, as long as the programmer is working from a project. OTOH, I'll be distributing the Perl app and many

Re: (CB) notification clues?

2003-01-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 08:38 PM, Rich Morin wrote: My suspicion is that I need to put something like the following in MyWindowController.pm's new method: my $dnc = NSNotificationCenter-defaultCenter(); $dnc-addObserver_selector_name_object(

Re: (CB) tabView_didSelectTabViewItem usage?

2003-01-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 01:19 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote: When you're finished adding outlets to your class, select the Instances tab again in the main IB window. You connect the outlet by control-dragging from the File's Owner icon to the TabView widget. (This is similar to connecting

Re: (CB) notification clues?

2003-01-29 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 02:08 AM, Sherm Pendley wrote: $dnc-addObserver_selector_name_object( $self, tableViewSelectionDidChange:, NSTableViewSelectionDidChangeNotification, undef ); A third point - note the use of undef instead of '' to pass a nil argument. An empty

Re: The dyld dance

2002-12-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 11:49 PM, David H. Adler wrote: Well... I thought I did that. Then 5.6.0 started giving me dyld errors. I've now ditched all of /Library/Perl (which is where I put all the 5.8.0 stuff) and it works again. Which is odd, as @INC should have looked in

Re: Apple Perl directory layout

2002-12-17 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:54 AM, Wilfredo Sánchez wrote: what I was thinking was that there might be an application which embeds perl and therefore links against the perl library. A new system update with a new perl may require that application to relink as well, if it uses API

Re: new to unix: basic help

2002-12-13 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 04:54 PM, Riccardo Perotti wrote: Can somebody please supply with the actual commands involved in The usual make, test, install routine, starting from the folder where my downloaded software would be? The whole routine is pretty well covered in the

Re: Apple Perl directory layout

2002-12-11 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 08:56 AM, Chris Nandor wrote: works well for me, and I find no significant maintenance issues as outlined by Sherm. I wasn't my intent to point out problems in the traditional layout; I was simply pointing out that the most common complaint about Apple's

Re: Apple Perl directory layout

2002-12-09 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 02:38 PM, Michael Maibaum wrote: As I guess most of you know, Apple's system Perl layout is broken Please don't presume to speak for everyone here. What I *know* is that's it's different than the traditional layout. Whether or not it's broken is a matter of

Re: hiding NSViews

2002-12-07 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 04:19 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Can someone tell me how to hide views? That is, in IB, I create all the elements of my interface, but some of them I want to not be displayed when the app starts and I want to display them later. This seems like it should be an

Re: hiding NSViews

2002-12-07 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 06:28 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Yep, exactly, and thanks. But as for following the HIG, what is the recommendation? I've not had time to read them fully. I know that many of Apple's own apps resize themselves when a new element comes into or goes out of view

Re: Mac-specific CGI peculiarity

2002-12-06 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 12:43 PM, Nathan Torkington wrote: It helps enormously to have running code. Or jogging... or walking... or limping... or crawling... it helps to see it, whatever its preferred form of exercise. :-) sherm-- If you listen to a UNIX shell, can you hear the C?

Re: open() a resource fork

2002-12-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 12:38 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: Does anyone know how to open a resource fork, with open(), sysopen(), POSIX::open(), etc.? On Mac OS, I would use O_RSRC, but that is apparently not available in Mac OS X's fcntl.h. open(filename/rsrc); sherm-- UNIX: Where

Re: No bell

2002-11-21 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 03:41 PM, John Delacour wrote: No. But the terminal is not involved. That's the difference. It's up to whatever process is receiving Perl's output to interpret what it gets, and act upon control characters (such as \a) if it wants. I can get a beep if I

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 09:26 PM, Puneet Kishor wrote: Perl 5.8.0 on OS X 10.2.x does have some problems in that it can conflict with previously compiled libraries. That depends entirely on how you choose to compile and install it. If you install it somewhere other than

Re: locale in carbon emacs (was: OS X Installed numbers (was: mac-toolbox))

2002-11-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 07:17 PM, Heather Madrone wrote: I haven't yet been able to figure out how to get the carbon build of emacs (a gui emacs) to import the locale so that the perl debugger will run under emacs. Any suggestions for the best way to handle that? GUI programs,

Re: Am I missing necessary DropScript configurations?

2002-11-10 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:00 AM, John Delacour wrote: At 7:16 am -0500 10/11/02, Sherm Pendley wrote: Wilfredo *did* try it, and described the results. Since that part of his message was missing from your reply (how convenient), I'll repost it: (I don't log in as an admin user

Re: Am I missing necessary DropScript configurations?

2002-11-07 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Matthew Galaher wrote: I so enjoyed the power of MacPerl's Export as Droplet feature. Me too! The next version of CamelBones, 0.3, will include a Droplet project template. It's not quite the same, but it's close. That is, the MacPerl module isn't

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 05:37 PM, Robert Mah wrote: On 11/4/02 7:23 AM, Sherm Pendley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm close to the 0.3 release, and I've been thinking about the question of packaging. [...] It would be wonderful if you could package multiple builds of app specific

Re: Opinions wanted: CamelBones packaging

2002-11-04 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 05:25 PM, Alex Harper wrote: Without going into too much detail, this means we are already used to dealing with packaging our own Perl modules into our (large) distribution. Well, whatever I wind up with will almost certainly be simpler than packing modules in

Re: How do you install modules in OS X?

2002-10-31 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 12:16 PM, Vic Norton wrote: easy in MacPerl. I just dropped the module on Chris Nandor's installme droplet. Easy it was (and is), but installme has its drawbacks. It doesn't download anything for you, and it doesn't figure out prerequisites for you. (A

Re: How do you install modules in OS X?

2002-10-31 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 03:52 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Which brings up a question that's been nagging at me. There must be some way to tell CPAN, don't upgrade Perl unless I tell you to, and if some other module you're trying to install needs a new version of Perl, try to find an

Re: LWP install

2002-10-30 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 01:08 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: The readme talks about other required modules and then those talk about others. It's a recursive exercise Only if you're determined to do it the hard way. If you use the CPAN shell, it follows dependencies for you, installing

Re: [OT?] How to run scripts on OS X (reference needed)

2002-10-26 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 06:29 PM, Tony Darnell wrote: I have OS X on my other Mac, and I want to run these same scripts. At a command prompt, I tried the obvious - perl script_name.pl, but no luck. That's not the *only* way to run a script, but it should work. What precisely do you

Re: Ad-hoc networked app?

2002-10-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 02:55 PM, bob ackerman wrote: On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Trey Harris wrote: Perhaps this is what Rendezvous is for? I admit I haven't had a chance to read much about it. assuming you can get a list of hosts on the network. *That* is what

Re: Ad-hoc networked app?

2002-10-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 03:08 PM, Trey Harris wrote: No, the app will be in Perl, but I'm using CamelBones, so I assume I can link into random ObjC Cocoa code, though I haven't tried that yet. Unfortunately, the current version of CamelBones uses a set of hand-rolled wrapper classes.

Re: Ad-hoc networked app?

2002-10-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, October 25, 2002, at 04:20 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Cool, thanks. Any reason to think it would be difficult to use it in a CamelBones app? Well, as I said, I haven't yet upgraded to Jaguar, so I can't be 100% certain. And, with the current version of CB anyway, you'll need to add

Re: Camelbones/Cocoa questions

2002-10-24 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 01:55 AM, Rich Morin wrote: I'm interested in registering a Camelbones app as an item that will show up whenever the user control-clicks on a folder or a document (ala Path Finder and BBEdit). Clues, anyone? The same topic, although not in Perl, came up

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 02:17 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 2:12 PM -0400 10/23/02, Trey Harris wrote: Yeah, but this whole episode was presaged by a spinning-beachball-of-death attack. One of those where a seemingly innocuous click on a menu starts the spinning ball in one app, and

Re: scripts don't run

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 07:54 PM, william ross wrote: On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 12:14 AM, Chuck Jacobson wrote: I installed perl 5.8.0 according to Apple's directions there are debates about the wisdom of those apple-sanctioned instructions, To be more specific: If

Re: scripts don't run

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:06 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Really? So, say, you build a CamelBones app under 5.8, and make it a self-contained .app dir so that your users don't know it's Perl. It'll work even on a machine running 5.6, and vice versa? As I said, if you use a construct

Re: DBD::mysql help

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:52 PM, Jonathan Baumgartner wrote: After make, I get some warnings. Are these something I should worry about? /System/Library/Perl/darwin/CORE/perl.h:498: warning: Precomp '/usr/include/unistd.p' version number is 24 instead of 25, ignoring precomp

Re: CPAN now

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 12:44 AM, Chuck Jacobson wrote: Ok now I want to install some CPAN modules - not to necessarily to upgrade stuff I already have but to add new features. I wanted to start with upgrading CPAN since I figure if anything should work, that will. I have already

Re: CPAN now

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 12:44 AM, Chuck Jacobson wrote: Thanks guys, I simply forgot to use sudo to chmod those files. By the way, there's a very good reason that people kept telling you to check the server error log. I removed execute permission on test-cgi to duplicate the

Re: Package distro for 5.6.1 or 5.8?

2002-10-18 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 01:57 PM, Michael Maibaum wrote: I would, but be aware the darwinports goes into /opt/local by default. Mine is not the only distribution that would clash with it, then. Many of the Server Logistics packages are also installed into /opt. It's the traditional

Re: gd croaking

2002-10-18 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, October 18, 2002, at 12:41 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: You are correct. I did have a wrong idea about cpan's functioning and capabilities, and hence, my rant _was_ misguided. As I said, though - What you said wasn't wrong, just a bit off as to where the blame for the problem should be

Re: gd croaking

2002-10-18 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 09:11 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: Anyway, I also found the following right at the top of the Makefile warn NOTICE: This module requires libgd 2.0.1 or higher.\n; warn For earlier versions of libgd, use GD version 1.43.\n; huh! so, cpan is not that

Re: Package distro for 5.6.1 or 5.8?

2002-10-18 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 12:53 PM, Nathan Torkington wrote: I remember reading that Ken was working on a simple installer distro for newer Perls. Did that ever go anywhere? I've been thinking of building a 5.8.0 installer package that includes a copy of CamelBones. I'd configure it

Re: Shuck

2002-10-18 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 17, 2002, at 08:33 AM, Eike Grote wrote: Jan Erik Mostrˆm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a similar application to Shuck but for OS X? There's a demo application in Camelbones named ShuX For what it's worth, I wrote CamelBones with that in mind - I had been using

Re: Cranky OS X installs

2002-10-16 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 11:22 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: Short of Something's busted, go get it fixed, can anyone think of anything I can do to this beast that might get OS X installed on it? I recall hearing reports of OS X being much more picky about RAM timing than older

Re: contextual menus, using CamelBones?

2002-10-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 01:22 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: Anything that inherits from NSResponder can have a contextual menu attached. You have to programmatically build up an NSMenu with attached NSMenuItems and then attach it to the NSResponder child object. (Use the setMenu method

Re: contextual menus, using CamelBones?

2002-10-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 04:13 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: Sweet! Seriously! Apple's dev tools make me wish I'd had $10K to spend on a NeXT cube, way back when - and another $5K for the development kit. I think that's what they charged for it - it was definitely four figures. Kids these

Re: question on ssh and peeve on editors

2002-10-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 10:42 PM, Puneet Kishor wrote: if you were to think of it as a web application development IDE... If you were to do that, you'd be setting yourself up for a lot of pain and frustration. The fact is, GoLive's support for PHP, ASP, et al panders to the

Re: OT: MacAngst

2002-09-30 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, September 30, 2002, at 09:29 AM, Edward Lewis wrote: Again, nothing to do with Perl. (Although I couldn't get that to work either, back when I tried.) Well that, at least, is on-topic for this list. :-) What sort of problems did you have? I've heard some people complain about

Re: Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-26 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 05:08 PM, Casey West wrote: I started a brand new project and in the Perl code I put 'use Text::CSV_XS' and as soon as I did the program broke with the previously mentioned symbol errors. Any non-XS module usage and all is well. A version mismatch in the

Re: Woes of 5.8.0 and CamelBones

2002-09-25 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 03:51 PM, Casey West wrote: I've recompiled CamelBones for 5.8.0, which I installed over 5.6.0 in the default Apple locations. When I compiled the framework I used Apples instructions for making it able to be included in applications. Sounds to me like

Re: OS Poll

2002-09-21 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 01:15 PM, Rich Michaela wrote: when the stuff they write requires their proprietary HW to run. (If the rumors of an Intel version are true that may change. To begin with, I highly doubt that the rumors are true - a switch to IBM as their preferred PPC

Re: iCal parser in Perl

2002-09-18 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 08:59 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: Last time I upgraded my stock Apple Perl I got creamed six ways from sunday. I would ask, why did you try to upgrade? Was there a particular feature you needed that was present in a newer version of Perl, that 5.6.0 lacks?

Re: Storable.pm?

2002-09-09 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, September 9, 2002, at 12:24 AM, Brian McNett wrote: On Sunday, September 8, 2002, at 09:08 PM, Chris Devers wrote: could do both, as I have fink installed, but I find CPAN to be more familiar. Oddly, this WASN'T working for me, but I see the only difference is that you're

Re: camelbones with 5.8.0

2002-09-02 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 01:53 PM, Vincent D Murphy wrote: i upgraded perl to 5.8.0 on my 10.1.4 box last week. now i want to use camelbones. Before I get to your real question, I'd like to point out one thing. Using CB this way will mean that all of your end users will also have

Re: Cocoa and Perl?

2002-08-31 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Saturday, August 31, 2002, at 03:23 AM, Dan Sugalski wrote: Has anyone plugged CamelBones on the list lately? I've been working a lot with it and, dammit, the thing is just sweet. *blush* :-) sherm-- Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 04:20 PM, ellem wrote: I wonder if an upgrade will bring my Perl to 5.6.0 again (which wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened to my Perl install) That depends on where you installed your copy. If you overwrote the factory copy, then as upgrade will

Re: Installing Modules

2002-08-09 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, August 9, 2002, at 04:03 AM, Les Harris wrote: And then, voila, you have the expat library installed and XML::Parser will run to its little heart's content on your machine. Once you get to this point, use the cpan tool to install the XML::Simple module - it will figure out the

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 01:34 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: I concur as to the books usefulness. I started by using Apple's Learning Cocoa I was somewhat disappointed with Learning Cocoa. It's not a bad book; I was mostly disappointed because I'd already read most of the material in it, in

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 12:45 PM, bob ackerman wrote: say camelbones doesn't do 'views' which limits are ability as well. not ready for pryme tyme. You've made similar comments in the past, and I'm wondering - how many people here see not being able to write custom controls in Perl as a

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 02:37 PM, bob ackerman wrote: ok. i am a not-know-much. what i know, i read in the camelbones doc. please help me understand. Sorry, I didn't mean that as personal criticism. I'm just trying to get a handle on how others feel about having the ability to create

Re: camelbones-related question

2002-07-05 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Friday, July 5, 2002, at 02:37 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 5/7/02 at 13:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote: There's also an O'Reilly book in the works, being written by Dan Sugalski. It's going to be called Programming Cocoa Applications with Perl. This book I'm _very_

Re: cpan oddness

2002-07-03 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 12:45 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: Going to read y/sources/modules/03modlist.data.gz Judging by the path displayed here, you were a little quick on the trigger, and answered 'y' when the configuration requsted a pathname. Don't feel bad, it's happened before - check

Re: camelbones with 5.6.1

2002-07-01 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 07:25 PM, bob ackerman wrote: anyone using camelbones? I am. :-) with perl 5.6.1? I've stayed with 5.6.0, because that's what most end users will have. If you're writing something for public distribution, I recommend using the Perl that came with the OS. That

Re: perl 5.6.1 with camelbones

2002-07-01 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Monday, July 1, 2002, at 09:09 PM, bob ackerman wrote: i installed the camelbones package as is and the 'hello world' example worked as is. excellent. Excellent, indeed. Anyone tried it with the 5.8.0RC? was there a mention of a mailing list or newsgroup? or is just here the best

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