Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-14 Thread David Ledger
On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 03:29 AM, David Ledger wrote: The sooner 'Project Builder' can create perl or shell projects directly the better. What sort of projects? A simple .pl file doesn't really need a project - it's just a single file. You can use PB to edit it, although BBEdit is

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-13 Thread Yvon Thoraval
Le samedi, 12 juil 2003, à 17:25 Europe/Paris, Steven Bach a écrit : But I fully agree with Chris that it is purely a matter of opinion whether Perl is hard compared to AS, and I would add that programming backgrounds, learning styles and other factors are likely to come into play. May I add

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-13 Thread David Ledger
I agree that the semantic distinction is very tenuous. However, I disclaim any ownership or responsibility for it - it's not *my* distinction. It's a marketing distinction, and personally I find it not only a patently false distinction but also an intentionally misleading one - AppleScript

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-13 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 03:29 AM, David Ledger wrote: The sooner 'Project Builder' can create perl or shell projects directly the better. What sort of projects? A simple .pl file doesn't really need a project - it's just a single file. You can use PB to edit it, although BBEdit is

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-12 Thread Robin
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 07:30 am, Jeff Lowrey wrote: AppleScript, on the whole, has a shorter learning time FOR A PROGRAMMER to be productive than Perl does. Given that any language will try to provide the functionality that the user culture currently requires of it, all languages have

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-12 Thread Steven Bach
Well, that's flat-out ridiculous. Perl is HARD compared to Applescript. That is a matter of opinion. Actually, it's NOT a matter of opinion. Many people have differing opinions, but that's not the same thing. It's a matter of marketing, flat out. ... However, AppleScript is a scripting

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-12 Thread Jeff Lowrey
At 10:25 AM -0500 7/12/03, Steven Bach wrote: Well, that's flat-out ridiculous. Perl is HARD compared to Applescript. That is a matter of opinion. Actually, it's NOT a matter of opinion. Many people have differing opinions, but that's not the same thing. It's a matter of marketing, flat

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-11 Thread Chris Nandor
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chip Howland) wrote: At 1:10 AM +0900 7/11/03, Robin wrote: But if I have to have a double clickable perl script I prefer using the '.command' technique because I really believe Apple should just go ahead and use Perl as the scripting

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-11 Thread Chip Howland
At 10:29 AM -0700 7/11/03, Chris Nandor wrote: and here's a Perl tutorial: [snip way too many lines of tutorial, apparently intended to make perl look a lot harder than it is] Here is what, perhaps, you meant: Open BBEdit Type print Hello, world. Run the script Yes, that's one way to run a

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Friday, July 11, 2003 14:14 -0500 Chip Howland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you might be a special case. Not everyone has written Mac::Glue or maintained MacPerl. If you are claiming that you can do everything with Perl and Mac::Glue that you can with Applescript, then I won't dispute

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-11 Thread Chris Nandor
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chip Howland) wrote: At 10:29 AM -0700 7/11/03, Chris Nandor wrote: and here's a Perl tutorial: [snip way too many lines of tutorial, apparently intended to make perl look a lot harder than it is] Here is what, perhaps, you meant:

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-11 Thread Chris Nandor
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Cantrell) wrote: It matters not that he wrote Mac::Glue. He's published it, so I can use it too. And I have just as much difficulty with using Mac::Glue as I do with using Applescript. That difficulty is solely because Applescript

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-11 Thread Jeff Lowrey
At 10:29 AM -0700 7/11/03, Chris Nandor wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chip Howland) wrote: At 1:10 AM +0900 7/11/03, Robin wrote: But if I have to have a double clickable perl script I prefer using the '.command' technique because I really believe Apple should just

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-10 Thread Robin
On Sunday, May 11, 2003, at 7:04 AM, John Delacour wrote: Whatever you can do with DropScript you can do more conveniently with Perl in an AppleScript droplet that _does_ know where it is. On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 03:37 am, Wilfredo Sánchez wrote: The assumption that your working

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-10 Thread Chip Howland
At 1:10 AM +0900 7/11/03, Robin wrote: But if I have to have a double clickable perl script I prefer using the '.command' technique because I really believe Apple should just go ahead and use Perl as the scripting language and put AppleScript to bed along with OS9 Well, that's flat-out

Re: DropScript confusion about cwd

2003-07-09 Thread Wilfredo Sánchez
On Sunday, May 11, 2003, at 7:04 AM, John Delacour wrote: Whatever you can do with DropScript you can do more conveniently with Perl in an AppleScript droplet that _does_ know where it is. The assumption that your working directory is where your script lives is broken. You script's path is